Although I agree with the Atheists' positions, I don't consider their debate strategies to be good. They were more dedicated to over-talking their opponents. it was good a time or two when Dr. Carrier acknowledge the validity of one of his opponents arguments, but not how he said it. The bigger problem is two-fold. First, all of their quotes seem to come from the KJV version of the Bible. Simply using NIV or another version for 2 Peter 3:4 would have revealed the Christian argument better -- 2 Peter was not referring to their "literal" fathers, but to their "ancestors." The Christian also made a great claim at the end that the entire chapter was about the Resurrection, thereby debunking the Atheist argument. I was surprised they did not mention the "scoffers." The other big problem is that in Zechariah 6, there are 2 different sections (again, more clear if you're not using KJV.) The first section is about an unnamed angel (not an archangel) and the second part is about putting a crown on the head of the high priest, "Joshua son of Jozadak." Most likely, this is where the "Jesus" reference comes from, and I agree that they are the same name. However, this is not the angel in-question. If this were a specific claim made by Philo of Alexandria, it would have been nice if either of the Atheists said so, but they did not, and the Christians did not counter them. This same problem comes up several times in the Bible when Jesu misquotes a Bible verse, and nobody corrects him on it.

If you have knowledge like the "apocalyptic reset" why would you sell something you believe would benefit the church. So you're gonna put a pay wall up for something that's supposed to bless the church. Imagine if the prophets of the Bible went to the people and were like I have a word from the lord. Written on these scrolls but only if you have 5 shekels. God wants to give a warning to his people for only 5 shekels. Oh You're poor? Then you don't get to hear the words of the lord. Yet the Bible says what you do to the least of these. And your putting a pay wall up in front of a message for Gods church. Lol what a shame. I would say may God have mercy on your soul, but he won't. And its your own vanity as to why.

It's wonderful hearing Dan Barker calmly bringing rationality to those who propose Christian nonsense in their buy-bull. Hearing Tom preach in his tone-deaf manner that never addresses Dan's points is... well... just plain sad...

Nobody saw an empty tomb & a risen Christ. Early Christian writers fabricated the resurrection hoax by making up fake backdated testimonials that the disciples & 500 others have witnessed an empty tomb & a risen Christ.

Nobody saw an empty tomb & a risen Christ. Early Christian writers fabricated the resurrection hoax by making up fake backdated testimonials that the disciples & 500 others have witnessed an empty tomb & a risen Christ.

Someone needs to do a debate on this topic and be told they can't use the Bible as evidence. Then let's see how hey can prove it without their stupid book.

i studied the Bible, esp the New Testament, for more than 40 years since i was 18 years old. i was an orthodox religious Jew for 13 years. Jesus was a racist and a man of violence. Moreover, Yahweh was a psychopath. Judaism teaches that non-Jews have a nefesh (vital soul) and ruach (spirit), like animals, but only Jews have a neshama (higher soul). The level of willful ignorance and shameless apathy is mind-boggling. In the age of the internet and AI, ignorance is a choice.

The outrageous hypocrisy of the ‘believer’ claiming that atheists come with a predisposition not to believe and try to make the evidence fit when that is exactly what he does throughout. Having had the suggestion that a tomb actually existed roundly undermined he proceeds repeatedly to base his ‘arguments’ on it. Then we have the twerp of a questioner who wants evidence that something didn’t happen. I despair!

The very fact that educated, intellectual adults today are still discussing the question of WHETHER the Old Testament is fictional or not is extremely strange to me and also has something grotesque about it!

why do humans have tails the first 8 weeks in the womb ,rarely their even born with them ,why do humans have pharyngeal gills similar to fish 🐟 that we no longer use to breathe,put on your thinking cap theists ,we are descendants of charlie the tuna like it or not

I respect people who need faith to survive and live but come on man. How is it not a fairytale? Jesus walks on water, Jesus rises from the dead, Moses splits the ocean, There is a tornado of fire, A talking serpent came to the first man and woman to “told” them to eat a forbidden fruit from a forbidden tree. All impossible imaginations never seen before. Also why is the crazies things that happened only in the early stages of our lives? From the past 1,000 years all of the sudden not a single miracle happened? Why’d it stop? Bs

Any "proof" that the church has (for example, Josephus) is tainted. It's been fiddled with by early christian. The Gospels are contradictory, and the stories are not believable. Paul never mentions Jesus' resurrection. Several other religions at the time had "heroes" who were killed and resurrected. Early Christians just borrowed from other religions that had been around for a while. It's impossible to believe that the Christian dying and rising god is real when all the others are not.

The stories in the Bible are all for the purpose of fear. Fearmongering to scare people into toeing the line. Daniel cannot be used to prove prophecy. There is debate about the date of its writing or its author. Prophecy writings are a problem for believers. According to the Bible, if a prophecy doesn't come true, then the person is a false prophet. And if anything is true, then it is difficult to prove that the person wasn't writing after the fact.

I am a physician and I can't explain or show you where the mind originates. C.S Lewis said, "If minds are wholly dependent on brains and brains on biochemistry, and biochemistry (in the long run) on the meaningless flux of the atoms, I cannot understand how the thought of those minds should have any more significance than the sound of the wind in the trees." If your thoughts on faith NOT religion are just random motion of molecules, how can they have any validity? How can any of your thoughts and actions have any purpose? But If God made us in his image with minds and a free will, then that is everything. And If Jesus truly rose from the dead, then he is truly God in human form and we can can have a true hope. Otherwise we have nothing and life is meaningless and everything and entropy will lead to the universe to absolute zero and every thought, idea and action will be gone. My study of science and medicine leads me to evidence of the incredible of engineering of life and the universe. The argument that our minds are derived from evolution and random chance admits that any thought that could arise by this mechanism has no validity

47:39 if you can’t see this then you’re lost to indoctrination.

You cant debate „believers“.

Wow, Carrier totaly wipes the floor with those guys...

Chris starts 2:36

AN ATHEIT WAS MADE BY THIS KIND OF UNREALISTC STORIES. These kinds of stories just don't make sense. ONLY AND IDIOT WILL BELIEVE THIS. THIS MAN WENT TO COLLEGE BUT DIDNT GAIN MUCH COMMON SENSE.. WHAT A WASTE,GARBAGE GODSH8 BELIEF

Dawkins said and I quote; "evolution is a fact" 100% false. The intelligence of Richard Dawkins is highly overrated.

The theist’s “evidence” is basically some people believed that Jesus had risen from the dead 😂

As soon as as they changed a testament I lossed all hope for faith. “God” wouldn’t change the rules for no reason or for anyone. Absolute bs

Can you please put the name of the person being debated with (Tim Rutten) in the title of the video. Hitchens debated a lot of people and there's a lot of "Hitchens debates" videos, so we need to be able to tell which one is which when searching, thanks.

Back when i was devout, i ALWAYS felt that the atheist arguments made more sense than those of the apologists. I was never able to refute Madalyn Murray o'hair. Here, Carrier is clearly the brain, and he's debating the little toe. Not to be mean, but ...

The Bible's version of him was and is a myth.

He seems frustrated, like pretty much all the rest of them! 😔

God and Jesus at best are illiterate, deaf mutes.

Mythisist are fun. Left field.

Paul supposedly saw Jesus in a vision. The bible say nothing about Paul seeing Jesus while both are alive, so how can he tell it's Jesus?

Put faith in yourself or the world at your own peril. It’s terrifying to think of a world without our Lord Jesus. I pray God’s mercy shines on you unbelievers.

Wow this is a crazy echo chamber. Jesus is the Christ, and Lord of all. Evidence is all around. Stephen Meyer, Frank Turek, William Lane Craig, John Lennox… Guys. The evidence for Jesus and the Resurrection is abounding, and with science furthering the case for an intelligent design… Do not be so quick to dismiss the case for Christianity. Most comments I see are emotional in nature. Ask yourselves this: if Christianity were true, would you believe it? If no: stop and realize your issue is one of the heart, not the mind.

You can say "i believe" over and over. It doesn't make your belief true, lol

"Forsooken"

Lol. A comedian lecturer and his cult followers.

15:00 questions by a dogmatic lunatic

If the bible can be shown to be errant, then all the "Jesus saves" stuff just collapse like a house of cards. The weakest point of the bible is Genesis. Its stories are merely borrowed from older religions and are disproved by science. No fall of mankind, no afterlife, no salvation needed.

Its obvious to me that the second speaker is arrogant, speaks too fast, with no back up to verify his claims, Its just gobbledegook to most people, much like the way the old testament is written would be, by reading it, to be totally incomprehensible to any intelligent person reading it!! Its a book of Hebrew myths.... End of...

Evolution regards EXISTING species, not the origin of life. The weakest link in the chain of the materialist narrative is, by far, origin of life theories. Abiogenesis states that given enough 'time' the 'right conditions', particles and molecules 'spontaneously' (miraculously) organize into insanely complex, self-replicating structures like a protein chain, BY CHANCE! This is the equivalent of saying that given enough time and the right conditions, a pile of planks and nails will build itself into a house! Materialists have a very hard time realizing how naive and irrational their beliefs are. Dawkins is just a preacher of such factually unsupported beliefs, that he presents as undeniable facts. So much for science!

Sam Harris is exceptional.

After a single minute of the christian guy you stop listening he's clearly spouting nonsense.

I swear to god, I checked the speed settings several times when Tom was speaking.

GOD SHOULD STEP UP AND SETTLE THE SCORE!

Impressed with how many Christians lie and never tire of lying. 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

Christian, your crap wouldn't hold up in a debate with me. 💩💩💩💩💩💩☠☠💀💀

Craig has always used sophism, circular arguments, self serving statements, avoiding questions, used all the techniques in theology to pull the wool over the opponent' s eyes. Of course, Christopher has always nailed him down

This Christian debater needs to remember to breathe more often. He is also super obnoxious and manic, I think his speedball of copium hit a bit hard. I’m pretty sure he is just shouting out every intrusive thought he has.

Dan is a beast, the atheist always looks like the person that is actually curious, because they admit not knowing what exactly happened but aren’t willing to just make something up or accept magic as the answer. The best debaters on the atheist side can destroy Christianity just by looking at the gospels. The mythical tropes, the Synoptic problem, the textbook progression from an early myth in Mark to the full blown magical divine legend in John, the fact that there are irreconcilable differences in the Christmas story and the date of the execution, the presence of other outside gospels that were contemporary and also said to be divinely inspired with witnesses. You could be an apologist, and in that case you will snort a speedball of copium and contort your logic so much that it looks like a pretzel… Or you can reject the premises of religion out of hand due to the lack of any real evidence and the fact that seeing it as an evolving myth explains EVERYTHING easily. Also I like to point out that miracles don’t happen and they never have and they never will, and they can’t refute that. I’ll talk about my experience thus far with dead people I know, and that as far as I’ve heard they are all still dead except for that one vampire. There is just as much evidence proving that Jesus was gay as there is proving the resurrection. That group of disciples did a lot of college experimenting, you know, to “find their truth in Jesus”. When they asked Jesus to come inside them and purify them, Jesus smiled and said “they know not what they asked for, but they will soon.”

Awful christian guy jumps around like a fool on stage - only because he wants to manipulate people with his religious fairy tales.

All these endless debates about a religious figure from over 2000 years ago - over and over again - stubborn christian freaks - makes no sense at all . Religions are all bs.

We used to play Dan's songs in the car on the way to school, laughing our heads off at Christians before we even knew how silly they were.