Christopher Hitchens Debate - God Is Not Great

Christopher Hitchens Debate - God Is Not Great
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June 4, 2007 - Los Angeles Public Library
Christopher Eric Hitchens (13 April 1949 - 15 December 2011) was an Anglo-American author, columnist, essayist, orator, religious and literary critic, social critic, and journalist. Hitchens was the author, co-author, editor or co-editor of over 30 books.
As an antitheist, he regarded concepts of a god or supreme being as a totalitarian belief that impedes individual freedom. He argued in favour of free expression and scientific discovery, and that it was superior to religion as an ethical code of conduct for human civilization.

[@INdifrnve]

Can we all take a minute and appreciate just how lucky we are to be able to listen and watch Hitchens anywhere, anytime , with a few taps of the screen….. every time I give a listen I learn and store something incredibly profound.

[@jameswest8280]

Amen

[@atheism-themoststupid-religion]

@99945Apophis *What is so profound about rejecting the one to whom you owe every single breath?*

[@santanalz]

Engineer here in the data center space. We work hard to make this last for ever. Sorry to our dipshit folks who make tiktok and whatever else social media we are ordered to by our bosses to keep forever as well.

[@jameswest8280]

@@santanalz garbage channels get millions of subs, informative channels get thousands, maybe.

[@santanalz]

@@jameswest8280 Yup.

[@dennyworthington6641]

"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." Voltaire

[@planes3333]

Voltaire cried out to God on his death be in shame and regret. Most atheists and satanists realise they are wrong when in their last breaths and recant.

[@AKS-tn7jv]

​@@planes3333 MOST 😂 you got any statistical study that you can quote?

[@planes3333]

@@AKS-tn7jv Do you have a coherent sentence you can compose?

[@weekonefitness8338]

" ...but I decline to be spoken to in that tone of voice... by the admirers of the illiterate Middle Eastern peasantry." 😂 - Christopher Hitchens

[@larryparis925]

Yes, yes. Great statement, and a valid one.

[@AlcibiadesMD]

@@weekonefitness8338 The Hitch had a way with words and logic, he was a master rhetorician, best I’ve ever heard, all thinking people miss Christopher, @ least I’d like to think so. He certainly influenced me for the better, I sorely miss him.

[@planes3333]

Peter Hitchens got it right. He is the good brother. I salute Peter Hitchens.

[@AlcibiadesMD]

@@planes3333 Yes meek and mild Peter is ok.

[@planes3333]

@@AlcibiadesMD I love his embracing christianity despite his past stance like his brother had. It is so wonderful seeing the scales fall off peoples eyes for them to trully see their God and savior Jesus.

[@sharkamov]

*''The whole thing [religion] is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the great majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life . . .''* - Sigmund Freud

[@DB-qw6xq]

How totally ignorant and extremely aggressive. Just because you are frightened of it you have to curse those who try and live peacefully (and I'm not talkink about political islamism which is clearly violent, but rather a genuine altruistic faith). You are about as narrowminded as it gets!!

[@blackwolfe638]

Damned well said eh? Love it.

[@nickguy8037]

@@DB-qw6xq If you want to see narrow minded, just read your last comment on this thread. The fact you cannot see the harm you are doing by “believing quietly”, is one of the main reasons your opinion has so little value.

[@smoothfilms5647]

@@nickguy8037 well said

[@chrisparker2118]

Well said if you if it fits your particularly narrow and flat ontological worldview. It's painful to think that mortals may never rise above this flat and superficial view of reality. Reality transcends our objective notion of reality, for reality is the very ground that affords being and knowing. You cannot grasp reality through objective reasoning and propositions alone. We can only grasp reality through self transcendce. It's the self transcendce experience that is at the heart of all religious and mystic experience. These experiences have been shown to cause people to lead better lives by almost every metric. Something so foreign to reality should have no such effect.

[@jasoncatt]

I miss that man. What an incredible human being.

[@AI3Dorinte]

same here...

[@jameswest8280]

We can keep him alive through the magic of the internet.

[@joshuajames1720]

@@jameswest8280 he's alive always in our hearts

[@AlcibiadesMD]

Ah, what the hell, just opened my bottle of Johnnie Walker Black awaiting 2024 Year, this tradition was started 4 years ago up to now and until I die, elated to have his god is Not Great signed by the man himself 1st edition hardcover # 9 book. Edit: “Tradition” of listening to Hitch while waiting for the new year, I got lucky to discover him on c-span in the mid 80s truly miss the gorgeous bastard.

[@sidmanazebo]

Got the same tradition, but daily 😊

[@AlcibiadesMD]

@@sidmanazebo I hear you Sid, I as well. In my humble opinion listening to the man as much as possible has better my grammar and diction, as English being my second language. In conclusion discovering this man way back then has been very helpful. I wish there were more of us, we must carry the torch as he once said ..”Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. The grave will supply plenty of time for silence.” Best regards to you, cheers 🍻 to enlightenment.

[@2fast2block]

Followers of Hitch are empty like he was. How did you make it past the first verse of the bible about God creating? Do tell how it happened on its own. The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, energy can only change forms, energy creation/destruction can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.

[@matimus100]

What a disgusting religious fear spreading comment about Hell

[@matimus100]

What a disgusting comment spreading hell in you're uneducated dribble graffiti

[@harry8601]

One of the greatest thinkers of all time.

[@dmr4450]

"The worst is yet to come." Christopher Hitchens. Fast forward to October 7, 2023 and what is happening since.

[@dzeger2810]

I wouldn't say october 7th is tied to religion, before i say anything else, i am like hitchens was, an anti-theist, october 7th was retaliation of the people that have been living under an occupator for decades, it wasn't the right thing to do, but thats just what it is

[@432Restoration]

He'd probably oppose both sides.

[@dmr4450]

@@432Restoration he definitely would.

[@britthill9765]

What happened October 7th?

[@432Restoration]

@@britthill9765STAY IGNORANT! RUN! RUN! RUN!

[@renupathak4442]

He is no longer with us but how fortunate we ardent followers of Hitchens are that we can hear him again and again and again and marvel at his great mind. He comes back to us and am grateful for that. I am from imdia

[@Mrdoom26]

I cannot agree more with this. The greatest mind I've ever witnessed

[@leaf1131]

Fun fact: globally, there are 3,000+ gods.

[@stephenholmgren405]

And religious people who are atheists with respect to 2,999 of those gods 😅

[@DidWeMakeIt]

He will be sorely missed. His eloquence has not been matched in my lifetime.

[@darksaurian6410]

He's with Jesus now.

[@russellalesi5715]

Uh...no...​@@darksaurian6410

[@clarkelaidlaw1678]

@darksaurian6410 there were more than 300 self proclaimed messiahs who were crucified by the Romans in that era.there is no reason to suggest that Jesus knew any more or was a better person than any of the others.He didn't know what caused weather catastrophes.He did not know the true age of the earth.he did not know the true age of the earth.he did not know the Americas and South pacific countries existed.He did not even know enough about medicine to give us a talk on germ theory.Maybe his dad was too busy creating floods and droughts and volcanoes and earthquakes and cancer to gave time to teach him anything.?

[@tabbypurrkins9129]

Hitch was my first cult deprogrammer.

[@leona2222]

Me too!

[@ThaDonDeFashion]

congrats.. glad you were able to live a deity-free life

[@joeblaumer49]

I'm 65, have been an atheist all my life. I started listening to Richard Dawkins, and through him found Hitch. He states my position in ways I couldn't dream of doing.

[@ernestofurchtgott5421]

Me too.

[@zhuguidai]

Dang I imagine hitchens as a cult deprogrammer is a bit like finding a grandmaster to beat your childhood friend tommy at chess

[@FriendlySkeptic]

Christopher Hitchens could write and talk about anything from architecture to philosophy, politics or religion and hold you utterly captivated, thinking and laughing, until he decided to let you go. I wish I could speak or write like him, but I’m afraid I will almost always fall short.

[@yomilalgro]

Best teacher ever... I am and always will be grateful for this incredible man

[@mangasky7]

One of Hitch's most stellar performances.

[@jestermoon]

Spot on my friend 🎉

[@markrichardson6381]

Exactly, a performance. See Michael Shermer's quote about the godless.

[@mangasky7]

@@markrichardson6381 L

[@josephno1347]

such a beautiful rational empathetic human being

[@JohnMRockwell]

Hitch gave me the voice to tell everyone how I felt since I was 12

[@ninajoit]

Would love to hear his voice tearing a new one against the Arizona senator who invited a prayer group and spoke in tongues on the floor of the state chamber the other day.

[@stephens4884]

Hitchens was ahead of his time, fast forward to 2024 and many of his warnings have materialised before our eyes. We live in troubled times

[@BlackPill-pu4vi]

Nope. Hitchens was right on time and the times were already bad when he became famous. The evangelicals have only gotten worse since then.

[@کانادا_چطوره]

I found this brilliant mind posthumously , just 3 years ago , but it was just enough for me As a man of 36 , raised under the round the clock bombardment of nonsense Islamic propaganda under the regime of mullahs here in Iran , just the first hour of listening to pure logic and reason from my Christopher was enough to turn all the previous 33 years upside down You made me an addict Christopher , I don't know wether I should be proud or wether ashamed of being addicted to your voice In fact most of the nights I can't go to sleep without listening to you , your voice somehow became like sleeping pills for me which I can't live without While driving the car , driving my motorcycle , doing my daily job which is building wirings , eating my food , going to sleep , even to the extent of playing your voice while having my girl on the bed !!! I don't know about wether it's something usual and common or I'm just in the minority , but to be honest I feel pain in my bones without your voice just like all the other drug addicts Wished that you been wrong that we are mortal beings , just to be able to talk to you while roasting in the hellfire for the rest of eternity , under the snow bearded infallible heavenly dictator , I'm ready to suffer all the torture of living in heaven for eternity just in return to be able to talk to you!!!! But the good thing is that we still have people like Richard Dawkins , Sam Harris , Douglass Murray etc , we should to promote them more , to introduce them to the youth Is any other Christopher Addict out there ? Or I'm just a one off job?

[@seckhoffable]

When I first had to face my significant other's Republican orthodoxy-which includes acceptance of religion in government, even though my guy's an atheist-only Hitch could save me. I learned the value of a cogent, clever argument. So yes, I'm like you, only I didn't have to binge so hard. Many humans carry a deep desire for true intelligence. It must feel like flying. Hitch put me on a level above my detractors, and for that I'm grateful (too).

[@markknopfler156]

I can’t put into words how much this great man has inspired me fight a similar corner in just about every ‘debate’ I have had. My favourite human being.

[@Cyborous]

7:42 Yeah that’s exactly the way my family is as fundamental Christian’s and born agains. so I relate to that. A lot of them think they need to save me

[@OfAngelsAndAnarchist]

Funny. They don’t realize they’re the Romans, as far as that old story is concerned

[@OrcusMaximus]

And it's not going well.

[@donallong348]

Only one person can save you, not your family and certainly not Christopher Hitchins

[@OfAngelsAndAnarchist]

@@donallong348 yeah, yourself

[@OfAngelsAndAnarchist]

@@donallong348 yeah, yourself

[@orangehairbrain8733]

The US now has a theocrat as speaker of the House.

[@jayforr6964]

👹👻

[@misstrunchbull3953]

Who gives a shit bro

[@lasagnajohn]

Yup. It's a feature, not a bug. Our side doesn't care enough and their side does. That's how this democracy thing works. Women? Under the bus they go. Religious stuff? Meh, free speech. Opportunity to 1up my hipster buddies? OMFG let me at em! It'd be hilarious to have Hitch here to deal with these pro Palestinian college kids.

[@joegordon-p6x]

and the President ( in name only ) is a moronic evil Catholic who crosses himself regularly as he destroys America

[@stevebaker4319]

I live in a very RED county, hard to watch !

[@johnsmith9246]

I wonder what Christopher Hitchens, if he were still alive today, would think of the religious right in America and its complete permutation of American society, akin to that of the Taliban.

[@mariadelpilar1590]

His words and that accent is what his wife Carol Blue called the "perfect voice." When I write . . . I talk to myself as though Christopher Hitchens were sitting next to me and I hear myself with his voice in my mind. It is quite engaging and I sound smarter than I am. I can listen to myself all day long . . . with his voice.

[@Mrdoom26]

Good god, you're right.

[@mariadelpilar1590]

@@Mrdoom26 haha

[@spudsmith]

Watching him cough throughout this interview is really harrowing... :(

[@eddieheron1939]

Hitch receives a particularly courteous, knowledgable introduction, from a man who, despite his often contrary perspectives, acknowledges sound attributes when he sees them.

[@larryjohnson9737]

Hitchens buddy there, knows if he doesn't interrupt hitchens, he will never get to speak. His friend stands his ground with as much dignity as Christopher does. Def in my top three debates.

[@TheJapanChannelDcom]

Hitch was as captivating as always. I was surprised at the intelligence and reasonableness of his protagonist in this case, makes a nice change from the others.

[@daylinlott5723]

H discovers here his thesis beneath the thesis, that our gullibility and passivity faced with faith and the faithful is more poisonous than religion.

[@tc7486]

How relevant this is today! We so need his voice now.

[@nicolebailey4426]

I remember posting that prayer without work is useless. So, of course, people trying to tell me about prayer opens doors, and God is for the faithful and other things. I am a nurse, and I said when we the medical team of different faiths confronted by medical emergencies act on science base actions . I think if your family member goes into cardiac arrest, we will look at the medical team if we bust out the book of hymns or fight over different faiths as crazy. You wouldn't want all patients who need emergency care. We are too busy trying to bring out the best patients' survival. We have to pray that it works as a family. I watched my uncle going through this scenario. Sure, I prayed a simple conversation with God. While I expect his medical team to treat him. My uncle died. I don't blame God because despite science and faith, my uncle required a heart and lung transplant. I view God as our Creator. However, prayer or belief in God will not solve man's problems.

[@Scorned405]

That’s called Deism. Thomas Paine was deep into Deism

[@adropofgoldensun27]

Then why believe in "god"?

[@adropofgoldensun27]

​@@Scorned405 On Reason, Paine had little time for traditional faith as a religious principle. He placed his trust in the powers of human reason alone, making him a champion for modern humanists. "The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason. I have never used any other, and I trust I never shall." [The Age of Reason] "Science is the true theology." [Thomas Paine quoted in Emerson, The Mind on Fire p. 153]

[@nicolebailey4426]

​@@Scorned405Very true

[@Peterw3160]

Every time he coughs, it makes me sad.

[@iconoclasticflow1620]

hitch is definitely on his third or fourth drink in this clip. interesting to hear more gravitas, and more raw emotion, than his usual lectures.

[@surg23]

I've said it before and I'll say it again- they should have cloned that man. One of the very few people worth cloning. The world is in such desperate need of a man like him right now.

[@Tater4200]

Probably the 5th time I've heard this. And it doesn't get old

[@marlin6668]

What an awesome human being…

[@sthildas4857]

That duality of respect indeed needs to be reciprocated, I respect others beliefs, on the basis that mine too are equally treated. I would not impose my Catholic belief on others, I invite others to our church as part of history, they may leave with something that is important to them or not.

[@gercreighton1851]

Even this long after it is inspiring for everyone with an intellect to go forward with hope into the future

[@vinotintopanysalchichon9554]

Chris starts 2:36

[@Mriya6]

Can you please put the name of the person being debated with (Tim Rutten) in the title of the video. Hitchens debated a lot of people and there's a lot of "Hitchens debates" videos, so we need to be able to tell which one is which when searching, thanks.

[@dalewetzel3029]

In case anyone is wondering, Hitchens’ interlocutor, Tim Rutten, is no longer with us either. He died in September 2022.

[@davebartels612]

That's a shame. Hitch respected him and liked him. He was very respectful of those who disagreed with him.

[@conradbulos6164]

His heart just could not handle all that weight.

[@BadMannerKorea]

@@conradbulos6164I don’t know the exact details but I do know it was because he fell at his home. It’s possible all that weight literally did kill him

[@ThaDonDeFashion]

i wasn't familiar with the other gentleman, but I'm glad that I watched this debate. I can tell that Mr. Hitchens had enormous respect for him. Excellent conversation.

[@Goettel]

Gods suck. Dogs are great though.

[@robertzantay5923]

If anyone but the leaders of the Jewish temple had arrested and crucified Jesus his standing as the Passover lamb would be removed, which would negate his sacrifice for the redemption of anyone who chose to believe.

[@alexgoslar4057]

What a great constructive discourse. Most enjoyable.

[@miquelr2353]

Stalin, Kim, Mao basically portrayed Themselves as divine. That does not seem secular to me at all Expecting aristotle to comply with modern theories or concepts is ofcourse crazy. Its already amazing they made the progress they did

[@psterud]

Never trust anyone who says they know right from wrong, because then they are trying to sell you something, and/or are somehow trying to gain your allegiance to a system of thought that is against other systems of thought, and are 100% likely to be hypocrites, often despite their best efforts. This is what it is to be human.

[@rcx575]

I have a question. If 12 religious people in some far off country claimed their guru had risen from the dead because his body had gone missing, and was therefore the son of a god, no one would care. So why are Christians willing to sacrifice their whole lives to such a story?

[@johnbishop2611]

Because it's true . Why is it that the Bible has stood the test of TIME ,not because it's so popular ,its because it's from God . Why is it the best selling book in the world. Because it's popular and people just love it so much NO,it's from God and no matter how much it's being ridiculed and scoffed at and spoken evel of GODS WORD WILL NOT GO AWAY .

[@johnbishop2611]

It's not religion its a faith in God

[@johnbishop2611]

Mark 8:38 Whosoever G302 G3739 therefore G1063 shall be ashamed G1870 of me G3165 and G2532 of my G1699 words G3056 in G1722 this G5026 adulterous G3428 and G2532 sinful G268 generation; G1074 of him G846 also G2532 shall G1870 the Son G5207 of man G444 be ashamed, G1870 when G3752 he cometh G2064 in G1722 the glory G1391 of his G846 Father G3962 with G3326 the holy G40 angels. G32 Mark 13:31 Heaven G3772 and G2532 earth G1093 shall pass away: G3928 but G1161 my G3450 words G3056 shall G3928 not G3364 pass away. G3928

[@johnbishop2611]

Sorry those are the original greek word references the numbers

[@rcx575]

@@johnbishop2611 the bible stood the test of time because it suited society, especially in its early days. It's in rapid decline in most Western countries outside the US, and there are bigger and faster growing religions.

[@ArjunMohan21]

Did that guy really say, "HE ASSULTED ME!?" 😂

[@ambassador8524]

2:45 there is some heavy chair moving action here.

[@margaritaperez7474]

Terrible loss...all hail the king of sarcasm!!!!! Hated by some remember by most.. greatly missed!!!

[@432Restoration]

Its so odd how the threat to open debate and speech came from a group that didnt even exist at that time. He was able to read the tea leaves not because he was psychic but because he rightly recognized the abject weakness of ordinary secular society.

[@thenaturalpathofdestiny244]

This is where the highest echelon of intelligence is being challenged in a do or die collision. And this is exactly what I do to pass my spare time. Human-kind greatly underestimates Human-beings when it comes to outwitting one another. In this case, it targets the ones intelligent enough to understand "God" is eternally dangerous. And have enough courage to take control despite what the doctrine of Christ threatens them with. I greatly commend these individuals for taking control of their lives both here and thereafter. This is where "Truth" is being used to set a trap door for you. And it's simple. The idea here is to keep you in the box of religion, because the word Atheist is religious jargon and it belongs to Jesus, God. To completely remove yourself from the box of religion, you must come as you are. By separating yourself from God to be a soul set free to fly, you shant use any words that already belong to the church. Those words are demi-god words and are just as dangerous as God. Atheist is of Greek philosophy and is still a form of "worship". ✈️Fly your own airplane. 🖕Say no to religion. 🎶Sing your song. ♥️Love life. 🗝️You hold the key to destiny. 💪Strongbin the membrane. 🐶♥️They matter. 😭Your sorrows. If so, I'll see you there🤪.

[@georgedabrowski6900]

One of mine for you: My religion, all my own Believes religion overblown: That when, in turn, we close our eyes To all will come the same surprise. 🐸© Near death experience 57 years ago, great peace, nothing religious, just the understanding that you can't hurt spirit. Whether it lasts after we die remains to be seen, and if it doesn't, it doesn't matter. I often comment that when I look out my bedroom window and see a resurrected T-Rex loping by, I will walk to the kitchen door to look for the resurrected Jesus, unless the resurrected T-Rex got him first. Enjoy!

[@thenaturalpathofdestiny244]

@@georgedabrowski6900 In the song, blinded by the light, by Manfred Mann,🎶Some brimstone, baratone, anti-cycrlone, rolling stone preacher from the east, says dethrone the dictaphone, hit em in the funny bone, vuz thats where they exoect it least🎶 Good Luck to you, hope to see you as a soul set free to fly.

[@thenaturalpathofdestiny244]

@@georgedabrowski6900 Oh yea, I'm T-Rex😁

[@taongatakaro8411]

Isn't "Separating yourself from God" a bit tricky when aren't any Gods ?

[@nickguy8037]

😂😂😂 No. Do you understand the term fractally wrong?

[@taomaster2486]

Zen was adopted by samurai as zen monks didnt fear death and the tricked samurai into practice but zen is not for training for warriors lol

[@bombonalvarez3802]

Poor luke warm man. He is impressed by what Christopher says but can not make a stand about his beliefs.

[@dwaynehendricks7842]

So, when God created the world, he was personally chanting "USA, USA, USA"???

[@jestermoon]

😂😂

[@kevinkoch-jj1uj]

If God created Dump, he definitely made me more of an unbeliever.

[@daylinlott5723]

Even when with a friend, and supposed equal, H bears the burden of tutelage.

[@RaginYak]

What an incredile man. R.I.P Chris

[@mosiemi1]

You can keep saying and doing what you want.

[@trent6348]

So he admits when a religious person pushed their dogma on others they know don’t agree/believe then it’s disrespectful? 😮

[@LaplacianFourier]

I can only be compassionate to anyone who has a receipt 😂. I don’t get it. Is he saying only to people who bought his books?

[@Taskforceandy]

You get it man

[@joygorson4648]

It’s a spot of humor.

[@LaplacianFourier]

@@joygorson4648 Thank you, darling.

[@geshvadnasiri7626]

Christopher iis missed immensely.

[@EnchiladaBoulevard]

Did i see Twitter X here? Inward: Yes, here we have laws to protect y/our ligaments. If someone cuts or hurts your ligaments on purpose, they can be jailed. I had to clear that one slipper up. 😊 I don't like standing in lines & rows with timed tickets. Does anybody else? I have religious pulling keeping my 24 hour schedule. Id be late for every earlier one! I was born late November of 71. New in your audience are once Catholics who were baptised and left the church at a very young age. It disjointed the mass between beloved families who then lost touch. The frays were permanently wounded and live it on hard edges. The undivided rope were of is strong with heartfelt deep passion for community ties to 1 old union. Lots ofbus feel the tug of time calling us to our childhood roots as our elders pass from life. The tear still hurts the town and needs some kind of mending at the seems. So there is 25 years ahead to work it over if we step to it, now. Its the bright idea. We miss old smells if we don't. Funny but true.

[@Sigmund1924]

Not sure anyone should be on MSNBC. The hippie who tried to disrupt the conversation may be one of MSNBC’s few fans.

[@michaelmessenger5742]

If He wasn't great He wouldn't be GOD Man is responsible for his own choices

[@littlesoul8282]

But since He's not great He's not God.

[@michaelmessenger5742]

@@littlesoul8282 Be careful who You worship idolise & praise All who denied Him have since met Him GOD willing all has been forgiven by now🕊 Why hate a Maker you don't believe in You're angry hurt and feel abandoned Just as we've hurt and abandoned Him

[@littlesoul8282]

​@@michaelmessenger5742 I'm not angry or hurt and I do not feel abandoned. Religions are man made and whether there's a God or not nobody knows. Nor do we know what he wants from us - if he wants anything at all. It's all mere speculation and make belief. I rather stick to what's true.

[@michaelmessenger5742]

@@littlesoul8282 In a world built on fear & lies what is truth Seeking & knowing is a personal journey I'm like you and I agree with you But why write things like God isn't great If you don't believe why bother scorning Resentment and anger it seems Our Maker isn't responsible for our actions If others hurt you, it's the culprits fault Neither GOD nor any victim is at fault.

[@littlesoul8282]

​@@michaelmessenger5742 The truth is what the facts are. Well, if there is a God as described by many believers (all powerful and all loving) then he does a lousy job here on earth. For all that is going wrong here he either isn't all powerful or he isn't all loving.

[@tomhiggins2562]

My one fear as an athiest is that if reincarnation exists I might be reborn as one of Sigmund Freud's 'mortals'.

[@LaplacianFourier]

Take comfort that reincarnation is not real. This is coming from an engineer who was indoctrinated with the poison of Buddhism during childhood.

[@OfAngelsAndAnarchist]

Efrian reincarnation exists. There is only one soul, and it would make you God that’s the entire point of Hinduism as a study. Then, there is no reincarnation in Buddhism, except in the way that you are different in the evening then you were in the morning. It happens within the lifetime and does not transcend lifetimes. Either way, there’s really nothing to worry about. They don’t do the whole hell in paradise, dichotomy traditions in reincarnation I’ve funny enough less interested in the conceptual framework and should be regarded as psychological times, where demons are actually people in anger. Angels are people who are so happy that they ignore suffering. Etc

[@pbluma]

why would it exist...

[@OfAngelsAndAnarchist]

@@pbluma it’s like a tree which experiences individual consciousness as leaves. Or a cell in a body. Mind you, I think of reincarnation along Buddhist lines rather than Hindu ones. To a Buddhist, there is no soul that jumps from lifetime to lifetime. It’s like when you see a friend after ten years and say, “wow, they’re a completely different person” They are. They’ve reincarnated.

[@LIGHTOFWAVE1]

GOD IS GREAT

[@littlesoul8282]

HITCH IS GREATER

[@Empire4Liberty]

Well he is in a power struggle? If he went into prisons and said that.

[@Survivorguidetv]

I'm curious if anyone would be willing to enlighten me as to why Hitch cut that man off. It sounded like he was about to put forth some kind of conspiracy?

[@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000]

He was suggesting the war on terror began from a government attack on 9/11, as opposed to AQ.

[@Survivorguidetv]

@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 thank you! That makes perfect sense as I don't think I've ever seen bitch not entertain a question.

[@paulfreeman4900]

Poignant to hear him coughing so much. A precursor of what killed him.

[@jforrester1208]

Even wasted he’s awesome!

[@syoung6126]

Religion, fast talking snake oil sales for the slowest of thinkers, ) mostly Republicans these days)

[@ermias01]

Steady work …

[@hoganrozins-mn5vp]

I do admire Hitch. BUT if U turn it around Dog is great. Plus Dogs are great.😅

[@anikettripathi7991]

We are benefited by bowing down and thankfulness irrespective of whose /to what. So even we don't like we can always assume provider of air, water, beautiful planet to live with all required resources for free. We don't pay anything for that. At lest we can show some thankfulness .. Is thankfulness is religious beliefs.

[@johnpro2847]

they do notr want to hear this..does a young child want to hear Santa is their father or mother ?

[@nickguy8037]

No… the child wants to hear that their father is Santa… or even better superman.

[@Joseph-x1r9b]

Humptydumptyism

[@mosiemi1]

Keep talking,the last messenger of god has come and gone

[@RUSS-pj5mw]

Hitchins caricutures are not great - true

[@duaneburris7ate9]

Not for you, I think. What do you think about beer? Can you agree that people are crazy? Wait... Are you sure? Can you prove it, that's what everyone asks. I tell you what... Show the valid evidence and we will call it a done deal, otherwise... Loser.😊

[@manusha1349]

Hitch is the Grand Master ❤ love and miss him! He never said God does not exist, he merely said there was no evidence to think that He does. Incidentally, I have no doubt that God exists, just not the way religion thinks ...

[@woodytheduke]

"Faith" the belief in something with no evidence,,, I happen to be a unicornian

[@manusha1349]

@woodytheduke lol happy for you 🦄 You know how I know God exists? Because if there was a way to show He didn't, Hitch would have found it.

[@woodytheduke]

@@manusha1349 it is a stupid argument,,,you can't disprove unicorns either correct?

[@2fast2block]

Hitch is the grand-disaster. How did you make it past the first verse of the bible about God creating? Do tell how it happened on its own. The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, energy can only change forms, energy creation/destruction can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.

[@nealgrimes4382]

@@manusha1349 You can't prove fairies, Unicorns or pixies don't exist either but that doesn't make them any more likely, Hitchens knew it was folly to try to prove God doesn't exist because proving a negative is impossible.also the burden of proof is on those that claim God exists.

[@votemonty1815]

Having never seen this, thanking you.

[@najamulghanikhan]

Hitch May your God go with you

[@joaoveloso4954]

thats one big mis understood idea from God, that Christians should harass others until others turn to Jesus. He wants all to be his friend but if people reject him he is ok with that, if he wanted to force folks to believe he would just come down like lightning and do the “ god thing “ and move mountains. He wants us to make an individual choice to get to know him. People just refuse to accept he is not a narcissistic attention hungry being.

[@vejeke]

There is a simpler explanation why God doesn't show up.

[@bobbydigital8056]

If God isnt a narcissistic asshole then why doesnt this supposedly all loving God make it easier for humans to make it to heaven? Why do we have to prostrate ourselves before him asking for forgiveness and salvation for being how he made us. Admit it, God is just a self aggrandizing bully.

[@f4freddie]

Hitchens is so pissed

[@Paine137]

Everyone should be.

[@djdza6611]

@@Paine137 why paine🤣

[@Jon99ay]

​@@djdza6611Anger is a powerful motivator.

[@Charmagh110]

27:59

[@baltzarbonbeck3559]

One of the fundamental issues within religious discussion is that of metaphoric truth and factual truth. Fundamentalist believe (wrongfully) that what the bible contains actually (factually) happened. Truth is that that is obviously not true, the stories in the bible are rather stories, metaphors and symbols from our past that has lived through our cultures. The bible is to be studied and looked at with interest, rather than discarded like some people think. Now a question aries whether or not it actually matters if you understand that the bible is metaphoricly written or factually written. Yes and no, it mattered in the 1600s when it made scientific developments go against the teachings of the church, which is obviously nonsense but happened. Now, in todays world, if a person believes tha tthe stories actually happened and act in a good way as a consequense, does it really matter if he understands they are metaphoric or not? Not really. It only becoems a problem when the society at large believes it and legislates based on it. It is in a way a useful lie to be a fundamentalist religious person. Many parts of the atheist crowd argue against fundamentalism, something rather dull in my opinion bc it misses the interesting part of religion. Is the metaphoric truth laid out in the bible true? The problem that arises now is one of "We can't prove that" You have to run the simulation and have faith in that it works. How can you prove something like "truth will set you free" You have to live it and have faith that it works. There are many things we live by, assumptions about the world, that are non-provable, here faith steps in. Believing without evidence is a way of defining faith. Depending on your definition of "evidence". We have faith bc we need to in order to live (argueable). The bible lays out a bunch of principles that can be believed predicated on faith. The way to analyze if a religion coinicdes with the good is to look at its effect. Christianity has clearly produced the most free and productive, and also moral societies the world has ever seen, in stark contrast to islam. "By their fruits you'll know them" is a good way of looking at religion, and also a good way of answering the question of "Do you believe in God?". Another big problem of religion is the question of interpretation, the same book can be percieved very differently, depending on the reader, mostly the time and place of the reader. Therefor I repeat "By their fruits you'll know them". The bible and other religious texts are really a collection of books containing stories from our ancient past, stories that have survived thousands of years of human life and many of them survived an oral tradition that goes far further back. The stories that have survived have been the most important and influential ones, the fact of their "importance" and influence can be regarded as a form of proof of truth. The fact that the society who acted in accordance with, and lived after these stories turned out better than other societies who predicated their behaviour and life on another story is a form of proof that one story is better than the other. In the end the winner emerges and we have todays stories. There is a reason that millions of people have dedicated their lifes to the bible, built huge temples and done amazing things, simply because of a book. The stories speak to a deeper part of reality and of humans. Perhaps there is a God, I wouldn't know, but the question is interesting and should be debated, not discarded. The effect of non-religion have certainly been worse than religion. As nietszhe pointed out in the late 1800s "God is dead", he predicted that afterwards it's effect would be nihilism and radical ideologies, exactly what we see today, and especially in the 1900s, the first century of a substaintial atheistic crowd. The first thing that happened was Communism, then fascism along with nazism. In a religious society none of these ideologies can grow, they inherintly go against the teachings of christianity, "love thy neighbor" is merely one example. Judeo-christian values + captialism has created all the wealth and prosperity we see today.

[@wretch1]

Get behind me satan!

[@pausuansian1863]

🤔

[@daylinlott5723]

I disagree that what science teaches is self-centered. H says it is, which contradicts his thesis.

[@Charmagh110]

32:11

[@bkray26]

Hitchens -''There is no God. Everything just happened to work out'' Normal Person - ''What's the chances that all of this would have happened randomly, how does science explain how it all started. Can science explain that?'' Hitchens ' ''I don't know, okay. But I believe I'm right''

[@vejeke]

Magic as an explanation for the things we don't understand yet.

[@bobbydigital8056]

Humans just happen to be the result of the proper conditions. No divine creator is necessary. We are simply fit to circumstances in which we find ourselves. Evolution is a "miracle" worker, not an imaginary sky father.

[@johnbishop2611]

Psalms 90:2 [2]Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

[@johnpro2847]

i would not mind god powers..amen

[@IkeCorbello]

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[@johnbishop2611]

Galatians 5:19-23 [19]Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20]Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21]Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. [22]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [23]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

[@AncientRylanor69]

ytu

[@johnbishop2611]

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth H3427 upon the circle H2329 of the earth, H776 and the inhabitants H3427 thereof are as grasshoppers; H2284 that stretcheth out H5186 the heavens H8064 as a curtain, H1852 and spreadeth them out H4969 as a tent H168 to dwell in: H3427

[@misstrunchbull3953]

Shut up dumbass

[@ermias01]

Rapture your self … lol

[@PaulDawson-hi5yu]

here's 5 possible steps in your life: 1 rebellion 2 repentance 3 request for God's glory 4 revelation 5.reponse by worship.....Sadly Chris only reached stage 1.

[@littlesoul8282]

He didn't need the other four.