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@Jan_Tabletop
@Jan_Tabletop 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I will start playing the game in Berlin with a friend this year.
@joshuaorourke1976
@joshuaorourke1976 14 күн бұрын
Excellent video with great insights
@isaacpendley5656
@isaacpendley5656 14 күн бұрын
Where did you get your third party sculpts from? They look amazing!
@dimitrioskolovos2516
@dimitrioskolovos2516 15 күн бұрын
Hi there! A bit late to the party after one year, but so far I have only Gondor, which I love and I've found your videos very very helpful and fun. I'm running on Sunday a 600p list which I wanted to try new stuff and make it a bit unconventional. I have Faramir with horse and lance, a Knight of the White Tower for intfantry hero and Anborn and Mablung with Rangers. I'll let you know how it went and I got into thinking of making an evil army list with Corsairs and Suladan. You convinced me haha. Thanks again!
@arashh23
@arashh23 24 күн бұрын
Hey Kevin, you mentioned if an enemy heroe is dismounted in combat and doesn't roll a 6 for thrown rider, they cannot declare a heroic action such as Heroic Defence? In the rules manual, it says they can do nothing else for that turn but doesnt explicitly mention heroic actions?
@smoothbrush4722
@smoothbrush4722 Ай бұрын
I should take all the time spears with shields in gundabad army? Trying to save some points and don t have shields.
@nilssaugen2303
@nilssaugen2303 2 ай бұрын
You can play Eorl with other named Rohan heros - you just loose the army bonus. But if you run a mainly foot Rohan list where you dont care as much for the bonus anyway, it is a very strong combo.
@elcone3
@elcone3 2 ай бұрын
Nice to see content! ❤
@PimFiegel
@PimFiegel 2 ай бұрын
Great video guys! I have got two prices already! Very curious how this list will work. Already did two practice games and won both. And indeed I was inspired by the list of Sean. And Menno, my AoH just did not go so well last tournament haha. Before that tournament I did not even lose with it!
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 2 ай бұрын
Good luck Pim!
@CapitanCorner
@CapitanCorner 2 ай бұрын
Good video. Thumbs up! Some corrections. First of all of course a hero can call a heroic action in the fight phase after rolling a 1 or 2 to 5 for the thrown rider test. The model cannot make strikes after a roll of 1 or 2-5, but is still able to call heroic actions. It is clearly written in the thrown rider test. So the plan to shoot in a combat with Dalamyr and Boromir like you suggested is a really bad idea. First Dalamyr with D4 will suffer under crossbow fire with s4. Secondly Dalamyr is only f5 and 2 f behind after Borormir, if he has the Banner of MT. So it is possible that you wound Dalamyr on a 4+ and then lose the strike off and die to Boromir. Therefore I only would do that if Boromir has charged and Dalamyr has no might left and will lose the fight anyway most likely. Then you can try to safe Dalamyr by killing Boromirs horse and Boromir not rolling an 6 for thrown rider check. You mentioned that this army has no terror to force your opponent heroes to spend their will. Well you have the best terror troops in the game with black numenoreans for 9p. There is a argument not to use them and only use corsairs cause of backstabber. If you compare the profile of the black num with a corsair it is obvious that the black num is better with D6 C4 and terror. In germany in harad-umbar was dominating the tournament scene. The german champion played harad-umbar and was using 2 corsair captains with crossbow, with 8 black nums and 4 arbalesters + Suladan, 3 serpent riders, 6 haradim with spear and 9 haradrim with bow and spear.
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 2 ай бұрын
Yeah you're right, this was later faq'd and updated in the new rulebook. Hard disagree on the black nums though, I will maintain my position that if you want to play black nums + suladan, just ally with mordor instead of corsairs. It's the better pairing, and you see it all the time at the top tables.
@CapitanCorner
@CapitanCorner 2 ай бұрын
@@lowlandswargaming1302 Witch King + Suladan is for sure in UK a top meta list. If you say black nums in mordor are meta the profile must be very good right? So why should the profile not be very good in corsairs of umbar. Like I said in germany the german master won with Suladan + 2 Captains with black nums and arbalesters and you see it harad + corsairs on top tables all the time. Corsairs have way better shooting than mordor. Sure Suladan + Witch King is meta. Suladan + Dalamyr or 2 Captains with crossbows and a ton of shooting is meta too. It's crazy how many models harad + corsairs can field. In harad and corsairs you don't have a shaman and only c3 troops, only c4 troops are the black nums in corsairs. So if you're playing against a witch king and your army breaks a ton of corsairs will run with c2. Black nums are usefull for base courage 4 alone. D6 is very good and terror is one of the best special rules in the game. I would go even further and say black nums are a top 3 or top 5 warrior profile in the game.
@user-hd9vq7em4r
@user-hd9vq7em4r 2 ай бұрын
A bit confused what you need to take the legion does it have to be dragon emperor if so can you run Rita I and amdur in the same list
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 2 ай бұрын
Yes it has to be the emperor. The details can be found in the defence of the North supplement. Amdur is not available in the legion, so if you want to play him you will need to run a normal list without the LL bonuses
@repentia1
@repentia1 2 ай бұрын
im brand new and just picked up the battlehost, the level of insight i got from this video is nothing short of incredible. thank you so much for sharing ya brain!
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the game! I hope you get a lot of fun out of it. Glad I could help :)
@flyingdagger01
@flyingdagger01 2 ай бұрын
I am a bit confused. Does dismounting the dragon emperor mean that your model counts increases towards quartering? So you add 6 black dragons to your model count?
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 2 ай бұрын
Yes, that's exactly how it works! Broken and quartering work differently. For broken you count if more than half of the original model count has been slain. For quartering you check if less than a quarter of the original model count is still alive on the table. Things like emperor dismounting and the goblin scribe won't help for breaking, but do help for quarter.
@flyingdagger01
@flyingdagger01 2 ай бұрын
@@lowlandswargaming1302 but since you are checking the original model count, why would dismounting help for quartering? I don't understand this point.
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 2 ай бұрын
For quartering you check if models that are left on the table are less than a quarter. For broken you count the number of kills. So dismounting does nothing for broken, but it gives you more models on the table so you reach that 25% left slower.
@flyingdagger01
@flyingdagger01 2 ай бұрын
@@lowlandswargaming1302 I also just understood it after giving it another thought ^^ thanks!
@elcone3
@elcone3 2 ай бұрын
Quality work. Again, thanks.
@johnhickman8391
@johnhickman8391 2 ай бұрын
Grats on the win.
@Vikingskjegg
@Vikingskjegg 2 ай бұрын
Great video! Random question here , can you get 0 on a duel roll. If for example I two hand and get a 1 ? Can't find a rule for it.😁
@elcone3
@elcone3 2 ай бұрын
Love the video. Instant subscription. Would love you doing it for Isengard, Mordor and Rohan.
@WATCH0YOUR0MUMMER
@WATCH0YOUR0MUMMER 2 ай бұрын
This was a great video are you able to do a video on Moria if you know that army ?
@metascrub285
@metascrub285 3 ай бұрын
i use azogs hunters at 500 with the three captains and i cant beat the army with Boromir near by
@metascrub285
@metascrub285 3 ай бұрын
how to fight boromir with azogs hunters. i find its banner is too strong.
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 2 ай бұрын
It can be a rough matchup. But you should have a lot more models. Play the objective, as boromir can't be everywhere at once. Don't let the minas tirith player force you into a bottleneck where you have to fight their shield wall.
@hiatila4496
@hiatila4496 3 ай бұрын
Great Video. I know I‘m a bit late but where did you get the alternative warriors of Minas Tirith from? 28:07
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 2 ай бұрын
Search for moya forge :)
@JohnnyTightIips
@JohnnyTightIips 4 ай бұрын
Only just beginning my mesbg journey and this is really interesting to listen to, thanks. That hero prowler was like Leonidas throwing the spear at Xerxes' face lol
@JohnnyTightIips
@JohnnyTightIips 4 ай бұрын
Never played mesbg but your presenting style is great
@JohnnyTightIips
@JohnnyTightIips 4 ай бұрын
I don't play MESBG but I love easterlings and this was a great watch, thanks.
@TrippyTheShroom
@TrippyTheShroom 4 ай бұрын
An army I'm very much interested in, they sound like such a fun army to play albeit very glass cannon.
@pagancrew
@pagancrew 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video and detail, thank you! +1 to everyone who has requested the same format for Elven factions, especially Rivendell 🙏
@haz3r229
@haz3r229 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Just wondering where did you get the terrain from?
@severintw
@severintw 4 ай бұрын
I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, but could someone tell me if Kyle is a male or female player?
@JohnnyTightIips
@JohnnyTightIips 4 ай бұрын
Kylie is a woman.
@miguelcasado9755
@miguelcasado9755 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff Kevin
@severintw
@severintw 5 ай бұрын
Can we expect more videos (hopefully a Rivendell Tactics) to come or did you decide to stop making new content?
@alexandersporl3
@alexandersporl3 5 ай бұрын
Just stumbled over this gem. Nice summary and nice description of the army. I play corsairs for a long time, at least since 2019. I play another, i guess more rounded philosophy. Never take reavers, never take delgamar, necer take bosun. Suladan is my leader, then dependant to points Level captains with crossbows and if fits in dalamyr. Warbands of corsairs are roughly 1/3 black numenoreans, corsairs with spears and shield, arbalester. In suladans warbands next to cavalry , warriors with spear and bow. Reavers play more into some strenghts of corsairs, but you trade in some weakness, the main one you get vulnerable to hero sniping and magic. It is not hard to counter or simply threaten the bosun and therefore make the use of reavers very risky. Your battleline is killy, but cannot hold long vs an elite shieldwall. Black numenoreans can hold the line often a bit longer. You can use black numenoreans as in the way in a real shooting war, and those harad bows can counter the 24" (or 12" in moonlight/aol) game to a certain amount.
@tannerpaxman2451
@tannerpaxman2451 5 ай бұрын
Hello Kevin! I am going to the Netherlands in a few months and I would love to see if there are any tournaments or opportunities for games while I am there. Is there a way that I can message you?
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 5 ай бұрын
You're in luck, there's lots of events in the Netherlands. Best way to talk to me or the community is to drop by the Dutch mesbg discord: discord.com/invite/WeZr3b88
@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx439
@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx439 5 ай бұрын
Followup thought for an upcoming 900p tournament: Im sticking to the LL and just adding more DKs. I tried allying in mordor, but apart from losing the LL duel reroll, you also lose drums and phalanx it actually gets quite annoying to build a mixed force that doesnt feel gimped. Just adding guritz, kardush (you kind of need fury for c2-3 orcs frontline) and a bunch of morannons leaves you about 60p for 1 more cheap hero like a nazgul or captain. it doesnt feel great and I couldnt nail down a list Im happy with Im sticking to the LL for this one.
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 5 ай бұрын
At 900 skip DK, just do emp+bro+rutabi+captain. Spam dudes. The captain is way more useful than a dk because of march, and less vulnerable because of the will and fate. Better to contest objectives with.
@ImperialGit
@ImperialGit 6 ай бұрын
Kyle*
@nataliepearson7074
@nataliepearson7074 6 ай бұрын
Hey I'm struggling to put together a list at 600 points. With the Dragon Emperor, Brorgir and a Captian the 2 smaller warbands don't seem great
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 5 ай бұрын
It's an awkward points level. You could consider putting the captain on a horse and having it as a one-drop. A mounted hero to contest objectives or run off with light objects can be quite useful at times. But it's an awkward points amount for the LL for sure.
@robfletcher6881
@robfletcher6881 6 ай бұрын
Hi there, I am now loving The Corsairs, had my first battle with them, against the Gondoliers, but I am not sure I am playing the Mindless Killer rule correctly. I have Bo'suns, so if they are within 6" of these guys then I can basically chose if they go on a rampage or not - is that right? Does the rampage remain in play from turn to turn? - or am I checking at the start of each of my turns if I want them to be in a rampage or not? There doesn't seem to be much of a downside. I feel like i am missing something, can you advice? Thanks
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 5 ай бұрын
Yes there pretty much is 0 downside when they're close to a Bo'sun, you're not missing something. They are really strong. It is checked every turn at the start of that reaver's movement. And within 6 of bosun you can still voluntarily rage
@DannyStuart
@DannyStuart 6 ай бұрын
Super late comment, and I'm sure you would have thought of this if you weren't rushing for time - but on the final turn, you'd have had a better chance to kill aragorn if you had just had 1 or 2 guys in combat (aragorn charged) and then everybody else should have thrown daggers. He was 1 wound no fate, so it would have been a way to get him off the board without having to get past his F6. Could have scored all 12 pts for maximum emotional damage.
@Vikingskjegg
@Vikingskjegg 6 ай бұрын
If Aragorn elects to use Anduril as a two handed weapon to wound on 3+ Will he get the -1 penalty to duel rolls?
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 5 ай бұрын
Yes.
@repthe21st66
@repthe21st66 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see a high point Gondor batrep where you demonstrate some of this advice or at least the theory behind the list-building and the strategy.
@metascrub285
@metascrub285 6 ай бұрын
Trying to find more azog hunters gameplay but I only find legion
@daveleddy1539
@daveleddy1539 7 ай бұрын
Hey man bringing this list to a 669 point tournament. Any tweaks I should make? ++ Strategy Battle Game (Minas Tirith) [33 Warriors, 667 Points, 11 Bow] ++ + Hero of Valour + Boromir, Captain of the White Tower [14 Warriors, 334 Points] . Boromir, Captain of the White Tower: Heavy Armour, Horn of Gondor, Shield, Sword, The Banner of Minas Tirith . Warband . . Osgiliath Veteran: Heavy Armour, Shield, Spear, Sword, 3x Veteran . . Osgiliath Veteran: Heavy Armour, Shield, Sword, 3x Veteran . . Warrior of Minas Tirith: Heavy Armour, Shield, Spear, Sword, 4x Warrior . . Warrior of Minas Tirith: Heavy Armour, Shield, Spear, Sword, 4x Warrior Faramir, Captain of Gondor [13 Warriors, 207 Points, 8 Bow] . Faramir, Captain of Gondor: Armour, Bow, Heavy Armour, Leader (Valour), Sword . Warband . . Ranger of Gondor: Armour, Bow, 8x Ranger, Spear, Sword . . Warrior of Minas Tirith: Heavy Armour, Shield, Spear, Sword, 5x Warrior + Minor Hero + Damrod, Ranger of Ithilien [3 Warriors, 49 Points, 3 Bow] . Damrod, Ranger of Ithilien: Armour, Bow, Sword . Warband . . Ranger of Gondor: Armour, Bow, 3x Ranger, Sword Gondor Avenger Bolt Thrower [3 Warriors, 77 Points] . Gondor Avenger Bolt Thrower: Swift Reload . . Minas Tirith Siege Veteran: Heavy Armour, Sword . Warband . . Minas Tirith Crew: 3x Crew, Heavy Armour, Sword ++ Total: [11 Bow, 667 Points, 33 Warriors]
@rambosquirrel6943
@rambosquirrel6943 7 ай бұрын
To win these kinds of events you need to manufacture situations that allow the dice (or friends) can reward you with wins ;)
@williamsawdon1995
@williamsawdon1995 7 ай бұрын
Where did you get the fountain court proxies? They look solid!
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 7 ай бұрын
They are done by moya forge. Look for him on insta
@excursor4296
@excursor4296 7 ай бұрын
For Jondor
@RotterdamWhiteScars
@RotterdamWhiteScars 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Been watching (listening) this in the background. Keep it up :) ^Thijs
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Thijs!
@killingsmalls6356
@killingsmalls6356 8 ай бұрын
Learned a lot just listening to y'all. Great cast
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate it :)
@kevinvanravenswaaij4060
@kevinvanravenswaaij4060 8 ай бұрын
It's been a long time coming! Hope you all appreciate this format. Let us know what you think!
@dzikimanolas1948
@dzikimanolas1948 8 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm wondering what's happening when Dragon Emperor gets hit from siege engine. Lets say its Trebuchet. Do I have to make "In the way" test to check who has been hit? Palanquin or Emperor? What is happening next?
@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx439
@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx439 5 ай бұрын
If its not a direct hit it wont hit the emperor at all. if it is a direct hit (read the siege engine rules) the DE's rules tell you exactly what happens. Basically he is immediately dismounted no matter what else happens which is really bad.
@smoothbrush4722
@smoothbrush4722 8 ай бұрын
I can't wait for a mordor tactics..