I never owned a Purple stole as I used one provided by the parish which marched Lenten vestments owned by the parish. As for Advent some use Blue and others Purple.

Correct. The Gospel procession is from the Jewish custom as well.

I guess but my instructors didn't unless they we involved in Eucharist.

@@ThatDeacon were those instructors ordained or unordained?

@@thegospelpolitan8475 Some, not all.

@@ThatDeacon I mean those instructors who wore the collar, were they also ordained for pulpit ministry or were they just seminary teachers? I teach in a seminary but I am not ordained and I do wish to wear this collar which gives a distinct Christian/ slave of Christ identity.

@@thegospelpolitan8475 they were ordained in the Episcopal church. If they were to preside at noon Eucharist were would suit up, if not they wore street cloths.

Thanks. That stole was woven as a gift.

You're welcome!

Congrats, and yes, there is a fair amount of waiting. I'm sure you'll meet this body in the fall.

Thanks for sharing your story as each and every story is sacred in its own right.

This happens all the time, and we are told to use this as a teaching experience about the diaconate. That's all well and good. It's time to end the Transitional Diaconate so we must elect bishop's who agree. In the mean time, smile, and teach and do the work you are called to do.

Wouldn't most of us, I think. Direct ordination would help, but who knows when that might happen.

Sorry for the delay! Yes, the diaconate is a full and equal order, and predates the priesthood. But, it depends on what denomination you are involved. In the Roman Catholic, Episcopal, Anglican, Lutheran and Orthodox churches it's an order that requires ordination, and seminary study. The call to serve others is a duty of all baptized people. Hope this helps.

I'm happy you noticed that I tried to look at the subject from both viewpoints.

Every church has their own customs.

@@ThatDeacon precisely, as I indicated.

Glad to be of help!

I'm happy you found the video helpful!

Yep, so true, and if I may add, we are called to live as conduit of belonging. Sorry for the delay, was out of town off the grid. :-)

OH, why thank you, and hope there is enough to think about for a while. Take care.

And, as time moves on, your understanding in what a "call" means will grow, and deepen as well.

Hey there Ryan: Naw, no magick. Think of it like a Thanksgiving meal. Every family has traditions just before eating and that's what I was sharing.

@@ThatDeacon It is a holy mystery, not merely a "Thanksgiving meal", this is theologically deviating from the traditional Anglican teaching. The bread and wine may not be "magically" transformed into the same physical body and blood permanently as Roman Catholic taught, but they are indeed consecrated, and through the Sacrament, we "may be partakers of his most blessed Body and Blood", and "dost assure us thereby of thy favour and goodness towards us".

@@ThatDeacon And also in the Catechist (1662): "The Body and Blood of Christ, which are verily and indeed taken and received by the faithful in the Lord's Supper.".

@@bwilliamleo7872 Not really interested in a Eucharistic food fight, but one of the wonderful things about the Episcopal Church is the ability to embrace a wide range of theological thought. Concretion means to be set apart, and in this Christ is present.

Yeah, true. One day it goes on easy, another day it can take three tries before the thing is secure.

So sorry I didn't respond earlier, thank you! Glad to be of help.

I'd hate that!

@@ThatDeacon hard to find a standard ladies' blouse that isn't in the jersey knit style

That's so true! My Rector I worked with is female used to talk about that as well.

My former rector is a woman, and she had many complaints various clergy shirts for women.

Thanks for the response! You can help by your input. I have found that when the Holy Spirit is involved there are flashes of the completed project, yet details sometimes get lost. People our group can help with focus so in your own way sharing thoughts is very helpful.

@@ThatDeacon think about how you might be able to highlight the wisdom of women in the Bible or female prophets. Lots of opportunities there🙂

@@trishharris9620 Oh, yes, of course! Thanks for the pointer and reminder.

I'm glad the video was helpful!

Thank you, and the same goes for your channel as well.

Thank you!

Thank you! By all means come back for more.

It's the Episcopal Church, the American branch of the Church of England.

Yes, there are many opinions and traditions surrounding adding water. The early church (outside Jerusalem) was more resurrection focused and would not have thought in those terms. So even at the beginning of home gatherings, there would be no unified tradition. Prior to Constantine, the church was diverse.

@@ThatDeacon Thanks for this! To be clear: I didn't mean to argue against what you said; I meant only to chime in with the theology I received, which may very well have been developed later in the history of the Church, especially given that there was no Scriptural canon early on.

@@ThatDeacon Indeed, at this point liturgical scholars are pretty unanimous in their view that there has been diversity in liturgical theology and praxis from the Church's earliest days. If I'm not mistaken, this diversity continued after Constantine. (Ambrose of Milan and his sacramental theology of foot washing come to mind... and, needless to say, differences in Eucharist theology were the stuff of Reformation battles). When it comes to uniformity of liturgical ritual, I believe it's not until Charlemagne (or at least Gregory the Great?) that it's imposed by Rome... and, even then, many local rites other than the Roman survived well into the 16th century (e.g., Sarum in England)... and even now (e.g., Mozarabic in Spain). Sorry to drone on, but I find this stuff fascinating. Anyway, thank you for posting the video! I found it very helpful.

@@silviagosnell Oh, I knew that...you were merely sharing and engaging and that's a good thing! I love interesting comments!!

Thank you, glad you are finding these video recommendations interesting!

Thanks and God Bless!

At the church where I serve I wear a dalmatic on high holy days like Christmas Eve and Easter, otherwise no.

@@dancertm Wouldn't liturgical purists say that's a bit of a mismatch, equivalent to having the presbyter fully-dressed and the deacon in their undergarment?

You're welcome...that's what love does. :-)

You're welcome!

Technically, you're correct, but this parish does not have a fully array for a deacon, and St. George's is very broad in this point in liturgy.

It's not a necessity, the minimum is usually a purificator over the chalice, and a corporal and a pall over the patten placed over the chalice. But the burse and veil links us with the ancient use of covering the chalice and patten to make sure flies, dust etc don't get into the chalice. They're still used in the Aramaic, Coptic, Orthodox, and Roman Catholic churches.

Thank you for y our comment, and what you said is true.

Thanks for the encouragement!

Thank you! It was not the flu, but geez...an aggressive cold none the less!