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@mikesilverton2309
@mikesilverton2309 Күн бұрын
When you mention 10,000 pounds I first thought it rather heavy for even the highest-end record player. As a price it's bizarre -- as is much of the hardware for this niche interest.
@wp7310
@wp7310 17 күн бұрын
Better than Cyrus ?
@TheEarOnline
@TheEarOnline 16 күн бұрын
That is probably a matter of taste but as this is my favourite affordable CD player then yes.
@ianbuchanan2127
@ianbuchanan2127 18 күн бұрын
System original Saturn is used in comprises, Regs Elex R (superb amp). Celestion A1 stand mounts (24 year old and just lovely). I also have the original Rega DAC. I now tend to use the Saturn as a transport and feed the DAC. Sound is as Jason describes above. Timing is just brilliant and it really gets to the core of the music. Holographic soundstage with huge amount of detail. Rega was achieving this 14 years ago with Mk1 so I can only assume Mk 3 will be just as good and possibly even better.
@ianbuchanan2127
@ianbuchanan2127 18 күн бұрын
Am adding this comment a bit late but thought it relevant. I have the very original Saturn. It's now turned 14 years old. It has its quirks where sometimes it does not track the disc first time. Recently it was skipping badly on track 1. Laser mech obviously at its end stage. Took it to dealer who sent it back to Rega. New laser fitted all for a fair cost of 140 pounds sterling. Now works a treat again. I love this unit and am delighted to see Reg a still supporting a 14 year old unit. Just thought I would mention this as a long term owner of original.
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 Ай бұрын
Why didn't they put an 'ordinary' size midrange in them and make them more vertical than horizontal??
@davidfowler5971
@davidfowler5971 Ай бұрын
Hi there, an interesting question so I thought I'd reply. The reason we use a large diameter midrange driver is because we want our customers to experience uncompressed midrange dynamics. If you look at most flagship tower speakers you'll find small diameter midrange drivers which are inherently limited when it comes to dynamics....often having the same capabilities as a good bookshelf speaker. With a larger driver you get realistic dynamics, faster transients, increased transparency, greater texture and detail and vastly reduced distortion and colouration. The wide baffle actually has considerable benefits in that we get significant lateral and rearward cancellation meaning the 1512's are much easier to position than a tower loudspeaker to the point they can be placed close to or against a back will with minimal negative impact. Additionally we wanted to produce a fine piece of furniture as much as an exceptional loudspeaker. The Elypsis 1512's can be custom finished to our customer's tastes, when placed on low stands are no more obtrusive than a chest of drawers. I hope that answers your questions? For any more please don't hesitate to contact us. Yours, David Fowler - Stratton Acoustics
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 Ай бұрын
But most manufacturers of high quality midrange drivers don’t opt for large ones like you have, and that’s without considering placement within speakers. Wouldn’t midrange ones of this size be more common if they were better, as most high end cabinets could accommodate them, especially as they often accommodate bigger woofers. If you used a more vertical cabinet which rested on the ground, you could still accommodate all drivers used in the 1512s. Imagine they were say 18 inches wide by 4.5 to 5 feet tall with 18 inch depth. Isn’t the idea to recreate an old design which was for studio monitors (mainly?) based more on nostalgia than performance? Sure, a big cabinet always helps. But a taller one could have been made with the same volume. Then stands wouldn’t have been necessary and the speakers could be more easily accommodated.
@davidfowler5971
@davidfowler5971 Ай бұрын
@@Coneman3 - We chose to define different performance goals than all other brands. Our goal were not to produce a product that fitted a catagory but to produce the highest performance loudspeaker possible. The only reason to set this goal was to communicate the recorded performance more enjoyably to tne listener. It would have been easier to produce a towering floorstanding speaker that the 1512's but it would not have resulted in the performaance we required or the user experiance we wanted to provide. Interestingly ease of accomodation is actually far better with the 1512's than with other loudspeakers as we do not have the acoustic restrictions of a narrow baffle or cabinets with questionable integrity. When this is taken into account the 1512's can be accomodated as pieces of furniture rather than in the conventional manner "Audiophile" loudspeakers have to be (spaced away from rear and side walls) and as such are far easier to live with than any other product with loosly comparable performance. We always wanted people to retain their home's usefullness with these products rather than have to convert a living space into a dedicated listening space. I would welcome you to come and listen to the 1512's and for you to experiance what they are capable of, when you do I think the rationalle behind our design philosophy will become clear.
@fizywig
@fizywig Ай бұрын
The DAC is not going to be that good?
@vvmaster2010
@vvmaster2010 2 ай бұрын
Hello, Thanks for the review. I'm just curious about when you said "even using tidal tends to sound a bit better"... which sources do you consider sound better than Tidal ?
@jasonkennedy5238
@jasonkennedy5238 2 ай бұрын
Locally stored music on a good server is significantly better than Tidal, and Qobuz usually sounds better too
@TheEarOnline
@TheEarOnline 16 күн бұрын
Qobuz sounds a little better than Tidal but files stored on a local server can be a lot better if the server is a good one.
@MarkWalshe-bo1wh
@MarkWalshe-bo1wh 2 ай бұрын
I'm frightened. The Rega Planar 2 is all you'll ever need. This level of focus is completely insane.
@naimusic362
@naimusic362 2 ай бұрын
Oh you’re so boring man 🥱
@johnnystrachan9454
@johnnystrachan9454 3 ай бұрын
Well tempered Amadeus all the way for me ❤❤❤ its a giant killer
@johnnystrachan9454
@johnnystrachan9454 Ай бұрын
Save ya self 8k and buy a WTA
@Robbo-eh3wb
@Robbo-eh3wb 3 ай бұрын
Expressionless. And I’m not talking about the turntable.
@sidvicious3129
@sidvicious3129 3 ай бұрын
Never say never, I have no doubt that the Rega Naia is outstanding, but there is always and I mean always something better out there if you are willing to pay for it.
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 5 ай бұрын
“Electro acoustics” - basically like every other speakers. Lots of flowery language which means nothing new 😂
@Unpreeeedictable
@Unpreeeedictable 5 ай бұрын
For the naysayers out there, a friend much prefers his Naia over the Kuzma Stabi R/4Point he sold me.
@bhupendraparekh6225
@bhupendraparekh6225 6 ай бұрын
At these prices I'd hunt down a Simon Yorke,
@johnnystrachan9454
@johnnystrachan9454 3 ай бұрын
I agree 100% would smoke it , well tempered Amadeus for me , this thing is astonishing ❤❤❤❤❤
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 6 ай бұрын
Yet it still plays the same 99p/99c round flat pieces of pressed plastic that the cheapest turntables play. Yet another way humans fool themselves into false beliefs.
@rixvspinner
@rixvspinner 6 ай бұрын
Great detailed review of all aspects of the Naia. That ceramic bearing is a step in of itself, nice turn table. I know the early 1980 Regas well, boy have they evolved over the years.
@nathanevans6277
@nathanevans6277 6 ай бұрын
This is a deck that I would very much like to hear. I found the P10 to be extremely detailed and transparent throughout the audio band but is a bit tonally thin, lacking body. Still one of the best decks, probably only bested but similarly priced Origin Live. The Townshend Seismic Sink used by Jason and seen under the deck in this video is absolutely essential as the Rega has no isolation from ground borne vibration.
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 6 ай бұрын
What prevents pressure changes in ambient air from the speakers transferring energy directly to the arm, platter and plinthe? Answer: Nothing.
@Unpreeeedictable
@Unpreeeedictable 5 ай бұрын
@@ChatGPT1111That’s why my turntable is in a separate room. Few people understand your point, but that doesn’t make it any less valid.
@lacanche12
@lacanche12 7 ай бұрын
I have a question. I own the Bowers & Wilkins 802D speakers. Paired with the Gamut DI 150 amplifier. I would like to buy a new amplifier. Which one would you suggest, knowing I'm a musician and listen only to classical music?
@jasonkennedy5238
@jasonkennedy5238 7 ай бұрын
If you can post this under the Hegel review and tell what you like/dislike about the Gamut I can make some suggestions
@lacanche12
@lacanche12 7 ай бұрын
@@jasonkennedy5238 I really loved the GamuT and can't find cons. So, something similar would be nice.
@šipi-ripi
@šipi-ripi 7 ай бұрын
Greetings Jason and Trevor from Hrvatska Croatia 🇭🇷.I am audiophile and i have been following your reports for 25 years (Hi -fi Choice,HI-fi+)👍👋
@TheEarOnline
@TheEarOnline 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad to hear I have a fan in Croatia
@geraldgreene5563
@geraldgreene5563 6 ай бұрын
Hi.. would this product compete with Naim uniti atom
@jasonkennedy5238
@jasonkennedy5238 6 ай бұрын
It is more powerful that’s for sure but hard to say whether it competes in all respects.
@mikegreen4409
@mikegreen4409 8 ай бұрын
oh ffs you are so boring
@umbrollo
@umbrollo 8 ай бұрын
Great review. A pair of intelligent gentlemen to boot, bravo
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 8 ай бұрын
Great vocal delivery lol
@hawkmoon369
@hawkmoon369 8 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for reply..
@hawkmoon369
@hawkmoon369 8 ай бұрын
Hi great review i will be buying the planar 10 but not sure weather to go for the apheta 3 or aphelion 2 so what would you recommend the phono will be the aura and rest of my system is nap 300dr 252 supercap and focal sopra 2
@jasonkennedy5238
@jasonkennedy5238 8 ай бұрын
The Aphelion 2 is the best cartridge you can buy for the P10 and significantly relaxed and revealing than the Apheta 3.
@kjk1422
@kjk1422 8 ай бұрын
For 1/2 the $, the Gold Note Mediterraneo is my recommendation.. And buy a solid phono stage, too.
@kenmcglown6642
@kenmcglown6642 8 ай бұрын
Love the brilliant Hegel integrated amps!!!
@richardcrowther4050
@richardcrowther4050 8 ай бұрын
I bet your kids have no trouble getting to sleep.
@andrewc2491
@andrewc2491 8 ай бұрын
...as boring as engineers are.
@andymouse
@andymouse 6 ай бұрын
Lol !
@Ainftcommunity
@Ainftcommunity 8 ай бұрын
Very few people talk about the actual user experience. For example - there is no cover - the records will collect dust. How to avoid this?
@jasonkennedy5238
@jasonkennedy5238 8 ай бұрын
Unlike the majority of high end turntables a dust cover is supplied. Ease of use is very good but the mat sometimes sticks to very new records.
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 8 ай бұрын
There is a supplied dust cover for when the turntable is not in use.
@davidbenson4845
@davidbenson4845 7 ай бұрын
Dust cover is fine. Not an issue.
@63capra
@63capra 9 ай бұрын
Hi thanks for such a concise yet illuminating review. It really gave me a fuller picture of its character. Bringing music to life is what I strive for-using LFD DAC and amplifier. Do you think this would be a good match? Been using a zen stream for two years with quite satisfying results but nothing too insightful. Thanks again, Mike
@TheEarOnline
@TheEarOnline 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike, I suggest you read the full review linked above. The Pulsemini will upgrade your Zen server however, it will add dynamics and improve resolution and timing but you might want to consider one of the bigger Innuos network streamers which will bring more insight.
@63capra
@63capra 9 ай бұрын
Is there going to be a problem using the spdif out for the digital as opposed to the usb? I read that sometimes the analogue out is better than some good dacs. @@TheEarOnline
@TheEarOnline
@TheEarOnline 9 ай бұрын
@@63capra no SPDIF should work well, maybe less detailed than USB but often more fluid. I suggest you compare the analogue output with your DAC.
@63capra
@63capra 9 ай бұрын
Ok good yeah listened to it on Saturday and very impressed both with digital and analogue out. I’ve ordered and can’t wait to get it set up at home. The demo model only had 30 hours on it too! Will probably get the lps when it’s released eventually to open things up even more. Cheers 🍻
@JM-pg1jv
@JM-pg1jv 9 ай бұрын
I purchased a H600 and it arrive defective so had to return it . With the bad (null) customer service from hegel im now looking into other brand options
@Zulus22
@Zulus22 7 ай бұрын
What was the defect, ...now that you're writing about it?
@frankhugh2052
@frankhugh2052 9 ай бұрын
What do you have it sat on?
@jasonkennedy5238
@jasonkennedy5238 9 ай бұрын
A Townshend Seismic Platform
@markcarrington8565
@markcarrington8565 9 ай бұрын
I’m a Rega fan and a three times Rega owner and I’ve no doubt that this is an extremely fine turntable. However, I think it’s a stretch to say it’s the absolute best unless you’ve had the opportunity to hear other high end designs. Incidentally, the purpose of the rigid connection between main bearing and arm is to ensure that any vibration present in the closed loop system is present throughout. This ensures that the relative movement between the cartridge and the record surface is eliminated or at least minimised. It’s the same principle adopted by Linn, although their light weight sub-chassis is, of course, suspended. People who don’t take the time to understand this design philosophy will always gravitate to the blunt instrument school of turntable design. If it’s massive, it must be good.
@andymouse
@andymouse 6 ай бұрын
Lol.
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 9 ай бұрын
How about if the timing on the recording is out. Or the hole is off-centre.
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 8 ай бұрын
Timing ?
@manny2230
@manny2230 9 ай бұрын
Sold my h590 to pre order h600 when it was first introduced and now I got it with me for more than a month. I can say that it is pure market. This amp is not significant better than h590. Not shit,but nothing special at all.
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 9 ай бұрын
Completely different DAC from your old 590, of course. Please don’t tell me you bought it without listening to it first? Duh😮
@manny2230
@manny2230 9 ай бұрын
@@markpunt9638 I ordered h600 when the first news came out. There was no opportunity to listen. And still I had to wait 3 months to get it
@kawasso
@kawasso 9 ай бұрын
Made in China 😂 at this price point - shame
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 9 ай бұрын
German equivalent is around £20k, so quite a saving from Far East manufacture.
@tengkukamil3951
@tengkukamil3951 9 ай бұрын
£10.5k and made in China!Hegel is laughing all the way to the bank…
@mrt6349
@mrt6349 10 ай бұрын
I can get a used hegel 590 used for a third the price of new h600 is the new model much better ???
@Zulus22
@Zulus22 7 ай бұрын
It is definitely more resolving, it is difficult for me to describe these aspects in words,... but it is really better (for me),... I had the h590 for over two years,... there is a difference not only in the dac itself, but also in the amplifier (preamplifier?). Rent the H600 for a test and I assure you, you won't return it ;)
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 10 ай бұрын
think i heard this last night
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 10 ай бұрын
thought it was lejardin, no wonder it was slightly different
@michaelmadsen6276
@michaelmadsen6276 10 ай бұрын
I don't see how Spotyfi and for that sake Airplay can be integrated in this product. I mean we are talking sq right?
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 9 ай бұрын
it's there along withTidal and the usual suspects including Chromecast. Well-equipped.
@roybatty6368
@roybatty6368 10 ай бұрын
China? No thanks
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 9 ай бұрын
That probably rules out most of the once-famous British loudspeaker brands for you as well then because they’ve shifted the bulk of their production to China nowadays. It’s the race to the bottom for them
@jasonme3557
@jasonme3557 10 ай бұрын
I'd buy a Hegel in a second, but a 2 year warranty on something that cost this much... tells me hegel has no faith in manufacturing. Sticking with Moon for now.
@JR-ho5qm
@JR-ho5qm 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if the new Yamaha NR2000a can hold its own with this Hegel
@gokhanersan8561
@gokhanersan8561 10 ай бұрын
Overpriced/overhyped gear is always good for the dealers and the manufacturer…until customers wake up.
@bhupendraparekh6225
@bhupendraparekh6225 10 ай бұрын
Hifi prices (like everything else) have skyrocketed, value for money is now a rare thing. Guessing the Hegel is excellent but the mark up is not worth it, and built in China while still upping the price, Hegel taking the p**s. Go second hand, yeah some risk but worth the risk.
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 9 ай бұрын
just made some Green Tea - sourced from China! Water boiled in a John Lewis kettle, made in? Yes, China. Shaved with a Braun razor from ... yes, China. Pine Nuts on my pizza from ... China -(
@futures2247
@futures2247 10 ай бұрын
people must be mad to pay so much for gear - hearing is as variable as hell.
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 9 ай бұрын
goodness - this is really a very modest price for all its sections. You should see how much some gear costs - look at the lines of Absolute Sounds retailer, for instance. You'll be staggered.
@Dustmaker
@Dustmaker 10 ай бұрын
How does it sound compared to Gryphon diablo 300?
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 9 ай бұрын
isn't that £16k without the DAC module though?
@Dustmaker
@Dustmaker 10 ай бұрын
How do you know it output 600 watt into 4 ohm? It does not show anywhere in the specifications. Did you measure it ?
@HegelMusicSystem
@HegelMusicSystem 10 ай бұрын
Great video Jason and Trevor. No surprise that we love it, I suppose. Have a great weekend
@adrianoxbrow4015
@adrianoxbrow4015 10 ай бұрын
Hmmmm………. I took delivery of the H600 today and am disappointed. As the owner of a music fidelity m8xi I consider this to be significantly superior to the h600 - so much more authority over the sonic spectrum. Both have very ordinary remotes, the only + I see for the H600 is that it’s almost 1/2 the weight of the M8xI. Both look very similar. Hmmmm…… my first Hegel, and I’m disappointed…
@Dustmaker
@Dustmaker 10 ай бұрын
So you got H600 for sale now ? Did you try a Gryphon diablo 300?
@radimvavrecka3481
@radimvavrecka3481 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, I was wondering how it compare to well established brands known for their super integrated amps. My first thought was why they completely ignore Nu-Vista or Diablo. I don't wanna dis H600 without hearing/comparing it but this intro/review seems to be biased unless it's paid ad, than I would understand.
@razisn
@razisn 10 ай бұрын
Why would anyone consider moving from the M8xi to this an upgrade in the first place beats me. A side-step at most unless you count in the dac and the streamer. In that case one could have spent the upgrade amount in a separate dac and streamer.
@Zulus22
@Zulus22 7 ай бұрын
You're witty😆... I had M8xi and nu-vista 800,... and h590 was better for me. H600 is a killer among integrated amps. I suspect that you have a mismatched system, maybe the room or you have strange hearing preferences... well everyone has different ears ? ... good luck 😉🤘