I'm thinking of buying this Masso 5 axis or the Acorn6 - I don't need 6 axis - 5 is good enough. Any reason why this may not be good for an industrial multicam 3000 CNC router? how's the response vs the Centroid Acorn 6? I think the main reason why I might still be into the Centroid is that I want to use a rotary (which is standard on my machine) and also add fixed tool mounts as well to make it a 20 tool changer. I need a lot of different carving tools and this would make it super easy and from my understanding the Masso only allows a choice between rotary or fixed and not both. Is this correct?

I am new to CNC milling, not laser, what program do you use ?

thank you for this quick overview

It's an underpowered and expensive semi real time controller that acts exactly the same as any other pc system with motion controller. Those Masso cannot run in real time and always have the commands in buffer. It's made for the standard user without any knowledge in the field. If you want cheap industrial grade cnc controls try something like the XCMCU 709D or HLCNC 980m. I've built a lot of CNC retrofits for bigger milling machines and lathes, from Pokeys57CNC, ESS, CSMIO IP/x and some others that were running Mach3/4. I've now moved to standalone Fanuc like controllers from china with built in display and proper keypad. They start at about 500 USD, depending on how many axis you need. They are proper 32 bit real time systems without any lag while jogging with mpg, support mpg job control, have full ATC control, Tool library with auto wear measurement and compensation, proper spindle orientation for rigid tapping and supports every axis with separate encoder inputs and even glass scales. You can also run any plc via rs485, so oilers and exotic hydraulic table clamps are no problem to implement. For example, the XCMCU 709D 5 Axis unit is about 500 USD, and has all the above features, almost the same as any MACH4 system when you count all the extra stuff you need. My customers are super happy with those and i no longer need to kill hours on support for obscure errors with mach and motion controllers. I run one of these on a MAHO700 myself and another more sophisticated one from another chinese manufacturer on a CNC with Toolchanger and 64 toolholders. The only problem you have with these is the documentation is basically nonexistent and only includes the most basic stuff in chinese. Nothing for the standard user that needs to have a step by step guide. However, maybe i should open up a webshop and sell these with proper documents, since i know them in and out.

Why not use a turbo instead? Like a big one...

Thank you. Not sure how this only have 750 views.

do you have have Mach 3 to use this controller?

I need to make one of these. Idk where you are located but here in the US the options for compact HydroVac-Ex are limited and overpriced. This is the perfect size to park in tight neighborhoods and get into back yards with "zero" lots lines that are too tight to get a mini excavator into. Thanks for the video... I might have to start making a parts list!

I beams twist pretty easily

Im having the same issue with my masso, it doesn't always start the program when hitting start button. I was wondering what you did to fit this?

Any chance you would be willing to share your cad files for all the laser cut plates to build this machine? Looks like a really nice robust and ridged design and would like to build one myself. Nice work! Thanks

I was thinking of buying this system but I went another way so my bank account wasn't empty to a greedy company. So it worked out I can buy 5 of a anther provider's unit and the money saved I purchased another machine with tools and still have money in my pocket.

No macros no memory running off a usb stick doesn't sound good on long programs but it does look nice ill keep running my tried and true solid uccnc.

can you set a password on it?

If you wanted to add dust collection, having a replacement pan for the bottom and an air return port at the top would be pretty nice. Then the air will blow dust downward towards the collection, also keeping dust off the linear rails. Dust collection is always a good idea in something with potentially explosive dust.

Does the Masso also replace the stepped drivers or do you still need the stepper drivers?

I might need bleach for my eyes now :) ... Did you use red wires for GND ? Tisk tisk tisk.

I rather have this than a tormach... Only thing I didnt like was the wiring; lack of identifiers and no crimp ferrules on the wires inserted into connectors

its not worth the price, there are too many g codes that it dont support, for a machinest its a nogo for a wood router ok

Centroid has let masso take over market share from them.

Excellent tutorial. All the CAM tutorials skip this step.

overall price point is pretty good, its the closest thing I have seen to a real industrial controller. all those PC controllers just dont do it for me, but then I come from siemens and fanuc controllers. If I could get a fanuc controller I would put it on everything. Granted I have not used this controller, but the #1 thing that stops us from buying a controller or machine is the lack of switches and knobs. case in point, I will not buy a haas machine as they are not good for a job shop, mass production yes, but proving out a program on a controller without the ability to operate it without looking is a nogo for me. example, turning flood coolant on/off with a switch while not looking. lowering raising rapids without looking, single cycle, etc..

Are you offering the sheet metal drawings if someone wants to build this machine?

This is somewhat around what I plan to build myself. I've been binge watching youtube videos for like two past weeks and this is hands down exactly the info I missed in most of the other build vids. Thanks man, really appreciate the effort to say about it. You showed me yours, I'll show you mine. Soon ;) Cheers and good luck

Can I have one or get the design?

Do use a servo driven spindle in on any of your cnc to mill steel. If so can you do a video on them it appreciated thank-you.

"You dont have to use PC" is really not a great argument. Most of DIY people and especially professionals have some PC that is not used. Also if you build a PC into a machine you do not place any other software unless its for CNC process so crashing is not a problem. As you pointed out, Masso is also crashing and if you run your system from SSD on PC it will start in just few seconds. I try to find a good argument for purchase of Masso G3 but I cannot find it, GUI is not enough as selling point.

Can you post a diagram of z axis cylinder lift and how it plumbed

Is this vfd a vector vfd. ...

Hello , nice small footprint machine! I see two things to improve. 1) Make cover to timing belt inside enclosure especially that I don't see you use safety relays and door switches 2) revert fans. Top fan should be exhaust and bottom fresh air supply

Do you have a hardware list of the components you used with make and model. That you are willing to share. Thank you for your help in advance.

I'm very interested in knowing the make and model of the electronic hardware you're using. As I'm just starting my journey in building a CNC machine. Thank you in advance for any help.

Did the price for the masso just jump up like $500 in the past 6 months? I swear it wasn't $1700 the last time i checked.

Thanks very much. Clear and straight to the details, that's what I like.

how do you wire up your stepper cards to this

I noticed you didn’t use the ES output on the Masso. Can you explain how you are handling an E-stop condition? Just curious as I’m currently wiring my CNC and using a Masso touch.

Can you show what improvements did you make to stop the vibrations? I didn't quite understand what you were saying.

Will you add an ATC at a later date?

Now i can appreciate a clearpath servo which requires just ONE cable from motor to controller.

Is that some special sand or just sand used in concrete?

Did you check out acorn six controller from centroid?

Hello, can I ask you for a design for a CNC machine that I am very interested in, or can I buy it from you, please reply to me

I have loved this idea since I first saw it. What do you think about machining slots in line with the tabs and plug welding them to the right angle edge tabbed plate? Wouldn't that prevent pulling and movement like right angle beads? I am thinking about building my CNC Mill this way once I am dont with my DIY Plasma Cutter.

It would be nice if there was a feed over ride.

This is a fantastic design!

I'm converting an old meccanica cortini l300 4 axis mill, is this controller fast enough to do HSM or complex 3d toolpaths? Like 100 lines of code a second or more? this is my main concern atm, does it have look ahead and smoothing?

This doesn't create g-code does it?

Use a ptfe spray lub on your rails to keep them clean and lubricated

Masso doesn't support macros so I got rid of Masso - sold it

could they use cheaper buttons? looks like junk.