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@interested-q4d
@interested-q4d 10 күн бұрын
books about Karl Marx can be interesting and Karl popper try reading amor Towles's a gentleman in Moscow now there's a difficult book.
@Nakshatrasengupta
@Nakshatrasengupta 11 күн бұрын
@theemptyatom
@theemptyatom 12 күн бұрын
I am a big fan of the Durant series.
@jennyjaybles
@jennyjaybles 14 күн бұрын
This is my favorite video of yours. I am making my way through your videos and needed to tell you this. As a poet and a human thank you. I hope you will have some more videos about poetry. Of course you can do whatever you want. I will watch it even if their is no poetry. But I really liked this.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 14 күн бұрын
That means a lot. Thank you. 🙏
@greyfjr
@greyfjr 15 күн бұрын
To Ruben it may concern, Ruben, thanks so much for this generous, humble, honest video. Books, and Steve Donoghue, brought me to your channel, but I stay for you. Honestly, I don't remember the biographies you mentioned, just your heart and understanding. Avid reading and awareness. Though I've probably embarassed you enough alreaady, here are a few of your wise words I want to remember: "self-righteous victimhood [...] and that trick of framing yourself as a victim in order to actively victimize a whole other group is a very simple trick [...] the moral high ground in spite of the utter cruelty [...] how we can do so much harm against each other while thinking we are doing right" "Insight into that most personal of experiences which is death itself" "so much of what makes it easy for us to be good is because we've had it easy to be good and it is important to see the ways in which had we grown up differently or had other challenges facing us, other temptations directly before us easily accessible, that we might have done something very different" "desktop killers [...] of just another statistic" "someone who lives in comfort and relishes in ideals of themselves" "the ease at which I can live a good life and I can be a good person is so much easier by the luxury of having financial stability. It's so easy to judge from afar." "I'm glad to have that story save my life, genuinely save my life!" "maybe we should be a little more humble and appreciative of our luck" Thanks from a fortunate follower, Frank
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 15 күн бұрын
Thank you, Frank. This is immensely kind. You have made my day much brighter! 😀 I hope to say further words of worth in the future.
@richarddelanet
@richarddelanet 20 күн бұрын
I feel sorry for the victims of crime and injustice.
@jennyjaybles
@jennyjaybles 21 күн бұрын
I work at a non profit where I occasionally treat gang members. I meet people from all walks of life to use that phrase. I always tell people that gang members are the most polite and respectful out of all the different people I meet. No one seems to believe me. Gang members are deeply traumatized. They are not scary. Its's true they may of done scary things but 90% of the time they are a very sad, scared and hurt person. I rarely get to see happy ending stories so I think I would love to read your dad's books when I am in the right head space for it. I am really happy for your dad and for your family. It is so nice to hear about people making it out of difficult circumstances. I wish every client I see could just believe that but most of them have given up. We need more stories of people surviving and thriving. It is so important.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for this comment. Some of the best people in my life were former gang members. Unfortunately, some of them passed away too soon. I don't remember if I shared this with you before, but I uploaded a short documentary on my dad's work with gang youth (unlisted, so it's only seen by people I share it with). It includes my older brother on the way to his first stint in prison (back in the 90's sometime). You may find it worthwhile: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHfCipqMgK1nntU My dad's books are intense. He allows the worst of himself to remain in the text in service of communicating the complexities of that lifestyle. The second book-It Calls You Back-has a bit more in it that's uplifting, but that emotional curve still relies on some deep lows.
@willk7184
@willk7184 24 күн бұрын
Hey buddy another excellent video - compelling, informative, and thought-provoking as usual. Touching on Hofstadter, Vollmann, Calvino, and Melville all in the same discussion is a hefty task, but you pulled it off somehow. Always a pleasure to hear your articulate descriptions and nuanced insights.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 24 күн бұрын
Thanks so much!
@talking_to_trees
@talking_to_trees 26 күн бұрын
Loved your discussion! I wrote this whole comment at the halfway mark of your video, only to find we said the same thing, but here it is anyway: empathy is a wonderful aspect of reading, but it also needs to be said that most people read what they relate to, therefore a conservative or religious person may never read about LGBTQ struggles, or a white person may never read about a black person's struggles. When it comes to empathy, I think that is where the real value lies: reading outside our comfort zones. Which means that if you are a good person, you may emphasise with the bad because the good already have your sympathy. You can't prescribe everyone's reading journey though, and it is like life: people will only ever be as open/kind/compassionate/understanding as they choose to be and reading can only grow that of which the seed is already there. When it comes to the bad people though, I think the value is not in empathising with them, but in understanding how their environment got them there, how society shapes us, and what potential part all of us have to play in the creation of the bad things that happen. That's how I see those stories: how do we, as a society and as individuals avoid creating this again. Yes, people should be held accountable for their actions, but also yes, we can change society and root causes to stop bad things from happening again. Only if we face them though. This is a much longer discussion, but the real value in reading IMO is not so much the empathy or sympathy we learn to have, but the understanding that everyone we meet comes to us from life with events stacked behind them - some long ago and some recent - and inner processes that we can never fully comprehend, just like no one can fully comprehend ours. So, can we understand that there is the potential for any one of us to have been any other person; can we understand that we have the potential to change the world with small ripples and even if we aren't aware of those ripples; can we understand that when we feel unacknowledged or misunderstood it is most often not malice but other people seeing the world from their own experiences and understanding? This should not become a way to bypass or avoid responsibility, actions or emotions, but it can soften our extreme knee-jerk reactions and give us more inner reflection about the stories we spin for ourselves, the people we meet, and the world at large. As a PS: I was asked once why I feel sorry for people with life sentences in prison when they did such horrible things. My answer was that I feel sorry for a life wasted; for a life where no one cares if you live or die and you aren't able to contribute to your loved ones or even the world (yes you can, and yes people are more complicated than the one action that lands then in jail, but also not); a life that becomes a traumatic struggle every day and where nothing will ever be soft again. And the difference is that most people will say they deserve it, while I look at the cycle that gets people there, think we can find better ways that don't waste life, and wonder what parts of yourself you must lock away in order to deal with what you did and where you ended up.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 26 күн бұрын
This is fantastic! Yes, we overlap in direction, but I find your phrasing and examples to be immensely clear and helpful beyond my own choice of words. Thank you for watching and taking the time to write this. You're always such a great commenter! 🙂
@talking_to_trees
@talking_to_trees 24 күн бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern that is such a compliment, thank you! I tend to comment less often because I am not a succinct person and these days no one wants to read lengthy paragraphs anymore...
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 24 күн бұрын
@@talking_to_trees I've been trying to comment less often for precisely the same reason. Many have become used to a flippancy online, but I'm not. Unfortunately, there's now issues of time which have curtailed my commenting and replies, but I can't help but feel rude without saying something. Your comments are always appreciated! Long or short. And there's no pressure to comment unless you have something you're excited to say. Either way, I can't help but remember you because you're one of the best commenters!
@talking_to_trees
@talking_to_trees 23 күн бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern that I understand and it is likely that your channel may one day become to big for you to answer everyone. That is what happens to most channels. No matter how much the host says they love hearing from their tribe, there comes a point where I can see they are too big to really do it because everyone has limits. It is the paradox of online communities...
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 23 күн бұрын
@@talking_to_trees I definitely feel this some days. Definitely.
@mikegseclecticreads
@mikegseclecticreads 27 күн бұрын
Love seeing your exploratory process as you develop these complex thoughts throughout the video. So much to think about here that resonated with me. I too feel a lot of empathy for the "bad guys" of history and literature in a way that sometimes feels a bit messed up, although I prefer to think reflects a maturity in understanding that anyone can become a bad guy under the right (wrong?) circumstances. In particular, this brings to mind some of what I was feeling while considering the final chapters of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," the chapters about the Reich's decline. Naturally it's the traditional victims who I feel most sorry for in terms of their experiences and outcomes. Still, I can't help but feel pity for anyone whose worldview is so distorted, who's never had the opportunity to see things from different perspectives, so that they end up doing what many of us just view as lousy and downright cruel deeds, while sincerely believing this is the best course of action for them (such as the Nazi propagandist, Goebbels, whose final act, after all the other horrible crimes he's already committed or instigated, was to poison his seven children to spare them the disgrace of having to occupy a "fallen" Germany). You pose a good question though of whether it is worth our limited energy to empathize with such people. Without thinking too deeply about it, I'd have to go with yes, maybe because I just don't feel I'm qualified to judge who is or isn't worthy of empathy.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 27 күн бұрын
Works like The Rise and Fall are precisely the sort to inspire these thoughts in me. To avid believers-no matter how incorrect-their beliefs often feel fundamentally true to the point of death. It makes me think critically about my own beliefs, wondering about what I take for granted, to avoid aimless harms born of naive reasoning. In that sense, learning becomes a moral act, an avoidance of the dangers of one's potential ignorance. Your final point about judgments-on deciding who or who not to empathize with-is an important one: once we slip into disregarding empathy for some for the sake of others, we slip into our own biases (and all the shortcomings of sight therein). Even if we could judge rightly at the start, the ease of such judgment would seemingly condemn us to falling back on the whims of easy sympathy, and all those less-sympathetically-tinged become flattened labels for our eyes to gloss over. A tough challenge, this question. Thank you so much for watching and engaging seriously.
@micheleshave323
@micheleshave323 28 күн бұрын
It’s not necessary for anyone to deface or otherwise disrespect a book. Books are tools of learning and/or entertainment. Most of the KZbinrs recommending this practice are young people who might not consider that the book will at some point be passed on to someone else who will then be forced to work around your writing to get their own meaning. Also, as you grow and mature your feelings will change so how you annotate now will probably change in six months to a year. Wouldn’t it be better to make your annotations in a journal so if you reread later on to can see how much you have changed and annotate your annotations without ruining the book for the people who come after? Books are precious, they should be respected.
@literature.café
@literature.café 28 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your excellent observation about book talk. I am very fascinated how you express yourself, so precise and with such a wonderful language. I totally agree with you on this topic, especially with this honest engagement. I really hope they discover the inherent worth in reading.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 28 күн бұрын
Thank you, Anne-Kathrin, for your kind words. I'm fascinated by what you're attempting on your channel (and quite curious how you got into all this: your presentation is impeccable and the density of information impressive). The more creators who focus on the specific worth of great works, the better, and you are among them. I very much appreciate you taking the time to stop by. If you need any help with BookTube, just let me know (though I doubt you need any). 🙏
@adelina_bonca
@adelina_bonca 29 күн бұрын
It is so soothing to hear your thoughts. You seem to have a genuine inner piece of mind and you spread some morally good principles. I found myself agreeing with a lot of what you said.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 29 күн бұрын
Thank you for your kindness (and again for sitting through such length). I hope to have inner peace. Like everyone, I have doubts and pains and worries, but I also try to remain appreciative for what I have and who I am; I think appreciation has been the most fulfilling source of calm. From the bit I've seen, you strike me as someone who can find comfort in quiet. That seems to me a very good thing. 🙏
@adelina_bonca
@adelina_bonca 29 күн бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern I do find comfort in quiet. You are a good observer. I like your comment about appreciation and I can tell you are really able to deliver that feeling on screen.
@darladarlading
@darladarlading 29 күн бұрын
I had a similar question w/r to my toxic parents. At what point do I “cut them out” completely? On the one hand, I empathize with them because I understand the trauma that shaped who they are. *And* true empathy includes empathy for me and my wellbeing too. So, I don’t know if there’s a right or wrong answer, but I think it’s possible to have empathy for those who harm while also maintaining safe and healthy boundaries *from* them - whatever that may look like for each person.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 29 күн бұрын
Oh, yes, I think empathy does not preclude boundaries. You can fully attempt to understand or empathize with someone's different perspective, but that doesn't mean you need to have them be part of your life. You can-without vitriol or hate-recognize that some people make your life worse, and given you only have one life to live, you should allow yourself separation. Always take care of yourself (possibly, no one else will).
@darladarlading
@darladarlading 29 күн бұрын
“…you should allow yourself separation.” Yes 💯 ❤ Thank you for this video, first time viewer. Appreciate these kinds of questions a lot.
@jennyjaybles
@jennyjaybles Ай бұрын
The heart of what you are saying is good but I think what you are confusing is there are some people who do bad things but in themselves are not psychopaths and can be empathized with such as having an addiction or mental illness being a very good example. Then there are people who are psychopaths and I am sorry to say this but they are not people like everyone else. Having been a victim of multiple psychopaths in my life in very brutal ways to the point where I sometimes am surprised I am still alive I know for certain the world has many, many monsters. What do I want to do with them? I want them to never be able to harm me or anyone else again. Is that possible? No because we live in a corrupt society where people don't give a shit about victims. People don't give a shit about what I have experienced. So I find myself getting very angry about feeling empathy for people who do not deserve any empathy and it will benefit no one to have empathy for them. But I must insist that yes it is good to have empathy for people who do bad things because everyone does bad things and most of these people are not psychopaths and are just either in bad situations or things may of happened to them beyond their control. Once you get them out of that situation you can really feel they are sorry, their is real sorrow about their actions, and it is easy to understand them. But once you have met and dealt with real psychopaths you can easily notice the distinction and difference between them and someone who did some bad things but is later genuinely sorry about their actions. The psychopath will never feel sorry. There is no point in trying to get an apology. Some of them get really clever and good at faking being sorry which allows them to continue their abuse. I know I cannot understand and connect with a psychopath just as it is impossible for them to connect and understand me. I wish they could be reformed but I also know that it is not possible. That is as far as my empathy for them can go. I can wish that they were not the thing that they are. In the meantime I would rather place all my empathy with those who I know can be helped or reformed by my empathy. I am very easily moved by peoples stories. I love to understand people. I am very good at getting other people to open up and be vulnerable. Thats why psychopaths usually are attracted to me unfortunately because I make a great victim by being a very emotionally sensitive and vulnerable person. Empathy is really a fascinating thing and having too much empathy can be really painful sometimes.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
You're bringing up many excellent points, a few of which I had in mind to discuss but didn't, such as psychopathy in particular and those who take advantage of empathy generally. I cut out my initial attempt from the video, because I felt like I could only communicate the exact points I had to make by getting very personal. Like yourself, I have known intimately psychopaths in my life and have suffered directly as a result. You're right to notice this gap in my video. It is a subject that I think is important, and so I will probably try to discuss it someday in a future video. Right now, the specifics feel too private, and I'm not yet comfortable sharing those details on the channel (because of the conditions I grew up in, some of these experiences compounded over a few years). This fact-the need to cut out my own story from the video-inspired the section of the video wherein I discuss how the stories of perpetrators will tend to be told more often than those of the victim's, simply because not all victims will want to put their story out into the world. Victims shouldn't be expected to have to tell the worst parts of their stories. Of course, this leads to many not quite knowing how bad things can get. I'm going to think on this a while. It feels like a more complicated layer of this whole discussion, and so I won't discuss it until I feel I have something of worth to say. Thank you for adding your insights.
@jennyjaybles
@jennyjaybles Ай бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern that makes total sense! I apologize for bringing up the part you didn't want to be said. And I am sorry for what you have been through. There is no need to explain anything. Privacy is very important and a precious thing. I am enjoying your thoughtful videos very much. I have been looking to expand my To Read list with books with lots of substance and depth and you have helped greatly! Thank you.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
@@jennyjaybles Thank you, and no need to apologize. You have a keen eye to notice what was missing, and I invited the topic, so I take responsibility for what arises. I've reached a point of calm in regard to those memories, such that with those close to me in life, if they want to discuss those things, I can, and it feels fine. However, I sometimes have to remind myself when I film these that, though I end up feeling comfortable, I am still speaking to mostly strangers. That requires a bit more thought and care. Like you describe in your initial comment, I also love to understand people and am often easily moved. And just like you describe, that has led to my being too open. Over the years, I've found my way through such experiences, to set boundaries without becoming jaded (it can be easy to become cynical, distant, and defensive, and I've worked my way to avoiding that). Maybe I should discuss that someday, that internal sensitivity I have and my means through it toward a kind of equilibrium. The more I think about it, the harder it is to explain. It ends up being a kind of sensitivity-oriented logic, a strange center between how little I must know and the fact that I have actually learned something, to be both humble in curiosity but stable in reasoning. And that latter stability becomes a way through, has been a way through, a quiet hand to hold as tension builds (and a knowing that it will always build, and I'm okay because I've overcome this before). I'll have to think on this. Maybe some things aren't fit to be explained.
@jennyjaybles
@jennyjaybles 29 күн бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern I think I understand what you are describing. It's a struggle to keep one's self safe? To put it simply empathy and sensitivity is a double edged sword. It can be very powerful when interacting with others and lead to great connection and insight. It can also be devastating to the wielder of that power. It can really suck. Figuring out how to manage it is freaking hard. It is a day to day struggle. I hope all sensitive people can figure out how to suffer less. Though I think suffering might intrinsically be part of the deal. This a depressing way to end my reply. I assure you I am fine.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern 29 күн бұрын
I believe you very much that you are just fine. You sound like you've reflected on and been experiencing the struggle for a while (the struggle of the incline toward suffering). That makes your final point not depressing: it sounds like genuine, thoughtful experience, and that to me is a good thing.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
Books gives us INFORMATION,, when we are at a early stage in our studies, Later this information is translated if not even TRANSFORMED into knowledge,, This is a very important stage, that one reads not just for information, but a s a learning knowledge,, Now after a while some yrs of dedication,, this knowledge hopefully will grow intognosis, which is a inner understanding,, or better here is what I mean 1) reading 2) Information 3) study 4) understandings 5) knowledges 6) gnosis 7) wisdom This is basically how i see this curve of gnosis. Gnosis just does not drop out the sky. Gnosis usally breaks in around ages 50+, My gnosis came late at 66ish as I wa sgoofing off past 40 yrs. Now at age 68 and one half yrs of age,,, my gnosis is starting to kick in. I can read the bible and CG Jung and actually make a commentary. So although I goofed off 40 yrs, i always had this gift buried deep within my FOOLISHNESS. My ancestor was HORACE BUSHNELL a genius in understanding God's ways. He devoted his life to his gift at a very early age. It is through his faithfullness that God honored me with His Holy Gift of Gnosis. Gnosis just does not drop out of thin air. Part has to be heredity and also hard work, Now I will work towards biblical exgesis, which is DESPERATEDLY needed, and also Vindicating CG Jung's studies for the super duper critical importance for todays epoch of total spiritual death. CG Jung has not been given proper understandings, The Jungains have let CG down. I hope to correct this misunderstandings. Atheists NOT allowed. Most serious readers get to level 4.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
Correct a friend taught me this trick of trying to read more books in each yr, I think it works,, I want to be determined in trying to finish one VERY IMPORTANT book if I am half way through,,, but that never works out,, I just around alot lot,, as I am new to this art of serious reading/study.. at 68 and one half yrs I am wayyyyy behind on my studies. Right now I am close to finishing the New Testament in Greek called the EVS REVERSE,, I only look up the greek words that I have to get the deeper meanings,, other words I skip as I get the INNER ESSENSE w/o looking at the greek definition. That is to say I already know (gnosis) what Yeshua, paul, James, Peter is saying ,,, but i do glance at most of the greek words and see If I note something important. The NT has to be read via gnostic mind,, a Carnal, = HYLIC mind will not ever never NEVER understand the NT 's meanings, IMPOSSIBLE,, But as well, God's Spirit has to give one a gnostic mind of light. Otherwise the NT will only be a story book and lead to man made religion, My 2nd books I am trying to work on before 2024 ends are CG Jung's Letters Vol 2, on page 170 now and a few of his other imporatnt works. Mixing ina few abstarcts and essays printed out from ACADEMIA.com Paul New Orleans
@DegraudeLetras
@DegraudeLetras Ай бұрын
great analysis of the current booktube context
@Maeve_Ever_Books
@Maeve_Ever_Books Ай бұрын
I absolutely love your videos! I’m so glad I found your channel!
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
That's so nice of you, thank you!!
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
History is not one OVER ARCHING story line,, But in the very deepest deepest meanings of history There is in fact a Single One Over arching meaning, That is Yeshua. Yeshua is the meaning of world history. How so? qwell Enoch, Abraham, Moses, the prophets, cathars, Anabaptists, CG Jung and many many other witnesses tell us there is One over arching meaning of history. To make this short as i have to get to study now. The final Kingdom will be the post Millennial epoch,, which Revelation calls The New Heae=n and The New Earth. However you wish to translate that verse. WE are in the genbtiles last rodeo = their last epoch of ruleship power,,, after all kingdoms are annihilated, now begins a alonggg 1000 yrs Millennial epoch,, at which end of this is the final last destruction of evil powers,, now starts the epoch of Yeshua's rule, Satan' has ZERO ZERO power. will there be evils?? Doubt it, It will be The NEW heavens and the NEW earth,, however you wish to imagine this. I can glimpse this kingdom, but not totally. as for empathy,, all depends on the persons age, back ground, attitudes, etc etc. Countless factors on my ability for empathy. all sorts of gradients.. I do not treat all equally. I am extremely biased, , but not prejudiced,. Prejudice = judging without any knowledge before hand. I give everyone a fair 1st meeting. AS I grow older my empathy changes,
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
HONEST ENGAGEMENT,, Exactlyyyy, This world is fake, false a big fat lie. Everyone is drunk on snakeoil, addicted to snakeoil. WE few know each other, we love (agape) each other, We are not like this world, fake false love.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
Stopping at 3:45 EXACTLYYYYY I have realized in my 68.5 yrs,, its not about NUMBERS,, I would much prefer speaking witha group of say 10 these few have ears to hear, minds to understand my words,, than having 1 billion of fluff heads who are easily drawn to snakeoil salesmen. aka The intellectuals, the professors, the preachers, pastors, rabbi's politics etc etc etc. Yes If I hada YT channel with only 10 subs,, who had capactity to hear my words,, much more happy I would be than 1 billion, even 1 trillion subs of The Ignorants. Now saying that I do not want the 10 subs to agree with me views all the time, Hell no, These 10 must not be **friends** They must be my harshest fiercest, stubborn critics,,, Yet enemies who have KNOWLEDGE, aka The Gnosis. , How else can Ilear n, develople my inner self????? IMposible via **the friends**. I want 10 good ENEMIES,, THis word enemy in the greek New Testemant does not mean just anyone,, it means THOSE YOU ARE IN A PSYCHOLOGICAL RELATION WITH. = Thus my 10 enemies are actually my very very best EVER friends,, vs the 1 billion **friends** who are really my hated enemies = The Ignorants. THere are only 2 types on eaath The Seekers of knowledge(gnosis) Vs the Ignorants. (99.999% of humanity) we few seekers are the .0001% of all humanity. University profs are NOT The Seekers. They are the bigots along with religious folks. Amen? Paul New Orleans
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Hi, Paul. First off, thank you for becoming a member of the channel. 🙏 As to your comments, I agree wholeheartedly that criticism is essential, especially from our peers and those who are well-informed and seekers of knowledge. It is through criticism that we bump into the harsh reality of what we may be missing, and that is vital to growth. Now, as for who to reach, I also consider myself an educator-I work as an English teacher-and so I think it is important to reach everyone and strive to offer them what I can. Many may not be receptive to what I have to say, and that's okay with me: difference in outlook is what allows different experiments in how to live, and it's through those experiments that we can learn a great deal. From my view, it feels necessary that we have a society with a range of different perspectives. I am not the sort to vie for agreement; a generally critical eye (in various directions) is more important to me. My latest video On the Limits of Caring discusses some of my reasoning as well. I would have been labeled as "ignorant" at numerous points in my life, and yet through openness and kindness I have become who I am today. So I aim to keep that in mind. -- Ruben
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern Hi I am fiercely ANTI Ecumental, I hate agreement of opinions, beliefs, I hate all religion, hate all JungianiSMS, Hate all paganisms. I stand for The Truth and The Truth only, Now as Yeshua was asked by Pilate, WHAT IS TRUTH?????? WEll Im know, = gnosis. Wide range of opinions waters down the truth,, no wait, it actually us nothing more than Organization,, as In The Jung Society of whatever city in the world,, or say Chruch Orgs, University Orgs,, I was ignorant all my life, Now at 68 and one half yrs of age *the 1/2 is a huge span of time in terms of New Awakenings,, )) Study JUng's age cycle. I am fiercely anti antichrist, Double anti, I hate The Illuminati hate christianity and hate judaism, hate paganisms, Moneyism,s Materialimss], Ignorantisms, MY life task is to clarify Jesua's teachings and CG Jung's studies, also to highlight the 200++ books by JACOB NEUSNER. I will finsih what Nietzsche started. Destrroy all christianity, This is the beginnings of Yeshua's Holy Holy KIngdom, Hope I made myself clear. Nice day Paul 'Forever student and teacher of CG Jung.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
Hi I just became a sponsor to your channel. Stopping at 1:06, Yes exactly, we seekers of knowledge shoudl NOT try to gain a WIDEEEEE audience, as you say we then cut off our UNIQUNESS, Our True real self,,, = we become precahers trying to make our pews full, Buy no means,,, we seekers are should never ever fall for pushing snakeoil, as this world is all about pushing snakeoil via universities, media, FB, Twitter, KZbin, religion politics etc etc etc, Our parents even push their snakeoil on us. WE seekers are not concerned with the masses. Please Read CG Jung's last and super critical book The Undiscovered Self. All his prophesies in that small 130 page book are comming true exactly as he forsaw. Paul New Orleans
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
stopping at 4:48 SHUTTING OFF THAT EGOISTIC VOICE IN YOUR HEAD,,,,,,,,That DEFINES YOU SO RIGIDLY,,,, Words of gold. Hi you may remember me from a post i made on 1 of your excellent videos.. about CG JUng and The Bible, 2 of the ost dif topics of study as few read either source, and FEWER even understand either source. Which brings up this new revelation... So I am wondering,,, who is God speaking to at this critical moment in history,,, gentiles last rodeo = Final epoch of gentile ruleship....when I heard you speak those words,, it dawned on me,,, since the christians are doinga great dis-service at polluting Yeshua's words = The New Testament,, making up a religion that has nothing whatsoever to do with Yeshua's Holy Kingdom ,,,and then we have the Jungainsists,, a group CG gave us few a stern warning to avoid that group like the black plage of death,, as they like the christians,,, have completely distorted and trashed CG's works. Which leaves which group on earth to hear Yeshua's Living Voice.... THe only group I know are the readers of high knowledge, aka The Seekers, The Knowers, the students of knowledge aka GNOSIS. Its super clear to me now. It is our group, so small, so scattered that must somehow find ways and means to share of studies. = WE must become the living voice of Yeshua. If you can sponsor a group meeting somewhere say in the southwest, a small venue,,, we can all make time to attend. If you can doi a group live cast YT upload,, I would love to share my understandings of books, The New KnowledgeSSSS, reading, man's spirit, God's ultimate purposes as expressed in the bible. My main objective in my 500++ bk collection, few have been read as yet,, is to grant a living voice to the souls who God sent to give light of His Holy Kingdom,, but were murdered by mankind, so as to keep the antichrist kingdom alive and prosperous. Of the 2 main groups are The Cathars and The Anabaptists 1520- say 1600, after this date these anabaptists began to become religious = antichrist. JUngianism is now dying fast,, group members are ageing and nor being replenished. Chr=urches/synagogues are dying and not being replenished,,, why is this??? The reasons are mainly The New Nihilists and The New Paganists, Both groups are the 2 fastest growing religions and both cults their men=mbers MEAN BUSINESS. The bible mkaes this very clear. So it is our (the few scholars of spiritual books) our responsibility to carry on Yeshua's works of enlighenment and gnosis. THe universities are dead, Chrurches/synagogues both dead... This only leaves us the few seekers of knowledge to carry on God's Holy Works. Please try to get in touch with me. WE Few Seekers of knowledge are The light of the world. WE are God's living voice. CG deserves and demands a voice, Yeshua is in desperate need of a few living voices. We few can not allow antichrist to snuff out these 2 and many other voices that need a platform. a expression ina human body of seekers. Separated we fall, together we shall not only stand but overcome all dark forces of ignorance. Both inner and outer forces. Please get in touch with me. leave a access to your email. Paul New Orleans
@MegaCynthia7
@MegaCynthia7 Ай бұрын
The book, The Language of Flowers, by Vanessa Diffenbaugh, is a novel that provides an excellent example of empathy for destructive people.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Thank you, Cynthia! I love getting recommendations like this (hadn't heard of this one before)!
@adelina_bonca
@adelina_bonca Ай бұрын
Wow…where did one hour fly? I enjoyed the concept of the video so much. Thank you for all these great examples, I added some of them to my list. I am really happy I discovered your channel, your recommendations and discussions are so nuanced and well thought. I will definitely enjoy your videos and learn a lot from them.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Oh, you're so kind for stopping by and taking the time (apologies for how lengthy my videos are!). That's very wonderful of you. KZbin did some good by recommending your videos to me. If you ever want to discuss books, or if you ever need advice on this strange BookTube thing, your comments are always welcome. 🙏
@adelina_bonca
@adelina_bonca Ай бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern Thanks for the invitation, I will most definitely consider it. And please do not apologise for the length of the video, it was very insightful. 😊
@redcat9436
@redcat9436 Ай бұрын
Shouldn't the emphasis be on good books?
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Meme: "Why not both?"
@richarddelanet
@richarddelanet Ай бұрын
Early point: Perhaps people who are slightly more empathetic than others are more drawn to books (it is a contributory factor as to why some people read). And perhaps English professors like to be dismissive of history in contrast to their own contribution to "the truth". Perhaps some of them prefer the pseudo-intellectual claims of the far-left (neo/marxists), Frankfurt School, post-modernists etc, one of which includes the idea that people - professors even - are not capable of being fair minded (objective) or even handed about a topic, and that they are not even aware or self-aware of the fact. That they have too much belief in a political-religion. That that will manifest at least in some way in all that they think and perceive, and therefore in all that they write. And that they are not even aware of the fact. And that it took people like Derrida to tell them so, professors, and everyone else. And yet... if we acquire a belief in something from literary theory, at the right age, it might tell us that: "It was entirely of your choosing. Sauron looked inside you and plucked the very song of your soul, note by note, making himself out to be exactly what you needed, a lost king who could ride you to victory. You gave him everything he wanted and then thanked him for it..."
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Have you read Karl Popper's The Myth of the Framework? It's a slim volume that strongly critiques much of the Frankfurt school's reasoning. You may appreciate it (though, The Open Society and Its Enemies does a better and more extensive job, but much of that book is focused on other issues). You also may love the anthology A House Built on Sand, which tears into postmodernism from various directions. My early comments in the video are not dismissive of history or historians (so many historians are fantastically even-handed and strive for objectivity); I am recognizing aspects of narrative, not to say it falsifies by default but only that it is something to attend to otherwise one slips into a spell of compounding correlations. Having received an English degree, I can say with confidence that what is taught is not 'the truth.' And yes, you make a great point about how to interpret the results of those scientific findings, which reflects my point in the first section of the video: decisions get made in regard to how to interpret facts (but the facts persist nonetheless, don't they).
@richarddelanet
@richarddelanet Ай бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern Your early comments I agree are not dismissive, but they are prejudiced. The evidence for this as a fact can be found at 2:47mins where you make a statement as a matter of fact, that "there are overlapping waves of arcs... but as soon as it is put down in a book of history it suddenly becomes one over-arching storyline". Which history books might these be? _Tecumseh_ by John Sugden perhaps? Or _Edge of Empire_ by Maya Jasanoff? History is about evidence not storylines. No offense intended.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Prejudiced in what direction, do you think? FYI, I have read more history, science, and philosophy than literature in my life. Also, no offense taken. I blame myself. As stated later in the video, this conversation started because a viewer said I was sympathizing with a historical figure too strongly and thus naively consuming what I read, so my mindset at the start was to display my lack of naivety in that regard, to emphasize my critical bona fides, but here I am now trying to clarify in the opposite direction. My fault, not yours. You say "history is about evidence not storylines," but I wonder if we're not recognizing "story" in quite the same way. I can't think of a history book that does not take correlations of evidence and does not formulate relations between them. That seemingly must be the case. A simple example: "The king died. Then the queen died." Often enough the historian either fills or severs the gap, e.g. fills in by stating "the queen died of grief" or severs by saying "the queen died coincidentally soon afterward." And there are facts that can support the link or the severance: maybe the queen cried a great deal, never leaving bed, then dying, hence it's reasonable to assume grief (but not certain); or maybe the queen cried-as is to be expected-stayed in bed out of sadness (again, to be expected), and died of an undiagnosed burst aneurysm, not because of grief itself (though grief is clearly correlated, but here you rightly noted in regards to the study on reading and empathy: correlation is not causation). Historians contend with these details always, and they are aware of needing to contend with this. I enjoy reading historiography-highly suggest the Routledge Companion to Historiography if you're interested-and this is a major aspect of work as a historian, discerning connections, recognizing the limits of facts-in-themselves to interpret themselves, and the importance of reading widely. For instance, an actual example from books I've appreciated: Stephen Kotkin's Stalin biography and Simon Sebag-Montefiore's Young Stalin (and a bit of Court of the Red Tsar). Both contend with Stalin's capacity for great harm later in life, with Simon Sebag-Montefiore emphasizing Stalin's abusive and eventually absent father, Beso (though, to be fair to Montefiore, he clearly only suggests that it matters, not outright insisting upon it), while Kotkin makes clear that such 'abuse' was common for the time and isn't likely enough to explain Stalin's propensities. And then the emphasis-the story-becomes obviously distinct between the two historians, one (Montefiore) spending a great deal of time on Stalin's exiles and swashbuckling and criminality, in the feel of almost an adventure tale (I finished Young Stalin like two months ago), and Kotkin taking a more technical (heavily endnoted), subdued, and/or neutral approach with branches of broader history alongside (which I much prefer). That is storytelling. It is not an insult to call it storytelling, and it is not a way to say either historian is disregarding the facts. It is just that, again, facts do not speak for themselves, we have to deal with them. The point of "arcs coalescing into one" in a book is to say that a single book grants a single experiencing of those facts. Not in itself inaccurate but filled with choices of presentation. For example, it is a fact I am sitting in front of my computer typing. If this were filmed, a camera could focus in on my face, the brief expressions hinting at thought, the light mouthing of words as I type, and could steadily zoom in further over time, understandably matching my focus with the focus of the camera. Those same facts could be filmed differently: straight-on to the computer screen, isolating the text itself as it appears, my fingers lapping in rhythm to the clicks. The referent is the same, the sense is distinctive; both reveal some facts and not others. Neither is a lie. But the choice of how to emphasize those facts are choices of storytelling. And that's okay. Again, it is not an insult; it is seemingly inevitable. Thus we have to read more than one history book on a subject. I'm a little surprised you say history isn't about storylines, because whenever I read more than one book on the same subject I'm struck by how distinctive the formulation is. I not too long ago read A People's Tragedy by Orlando Figes, and it is entirely different in its presentation of the Russian Revolution and its consequences compared to something like Sean McMeekin's recent work, though they overlap plenty. A specific example that stands out: they both bring up German funding of the Bolsheviks, but McMeekin takes that detail much further, creating a far stronger relationship between those funds and Bolshevism's rise than Figes does (though, when I return to the Figes book, he absolutely brings up much of the same facts, but their relegation is to that of almost a footnote, which is super interesting, and again reinforces the importance of emphasis). With a different emphasis comes choices of the story being told. Imagine what it would take to give every single fact-that would require more than a single book could hold. Selection of facts is necessary, thus that selection emerges into the realm of story. We have to select facts as writers and make further decisions on how to present them; hence, "overlapping waves of arcs" coalescing into one. I'm sure you agree: "everyone, please, read more than one history book!" I'm sure you've felt that difference when reading of the same subject matter. Each book evokes an entirely different sense-but I should reiterate now: the facts are still true!! and I am not calling history a lie!! There just has to be decisions in writing history, much like there are choices in my translating my thoughts into writing right this instant: there is a truth of my thinking, and I am attempting to lay them out in a particular way, anticipating different understandings, adapting that, not merely constrained by truth in itself but now by presentation. When you write, too, you can likely feel the strain of choice to convey the truth. You have to edit your own words for that reason, and so do I. It has to be conveyed but you're still accounting for the impression of the reader and that has an effect. None of that makes it untrue. But it is a different arc of experience than would have been otherwise. This whole non-naive-attempted-argument-about-history that I laid out at the start of the video relates to empathy because with different emphasis also arises differences in who we empathize with. If I read The House of Government by Yuri Slezkine, my empathy is with many of the Bolsheviks themselves and their families; if I read Red Famine by Anne Applebaum, the timeframe is similar but my empathy is for an entirely different group of people. By the end of the video I end up stating that I do not know what to make of that fact, the fact of difference in emphasis leading to differences in empathy (again, facts don't include instructions on how to deal with them). By the way, I am just a nerd, not angry. If any of the above feels forceful or bothered or anything of that sort. Just, again, I am just a nerd, so I like going into minutiae like this. You're great, and I have been watching your videos since around the same time I started posting regularly on this channel half a year ago. Thank you for giving me something to nerd out about. I wouldn't write a lengthy comment like this to someone I didn't respect. I hope to have said at least one thing of interest amidst all of the above. (And the point I make a little later than the beginning in the video-about some truths being mixed in with untruths-that is just an obvious point about difficulty in testing one's interpretations, how "correlation is not causation" alongside many other challenges in knowing something with certainty when you can't go back and test each hypothesis individually.)
@richarddelanet
@richarddelanet Ай бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern Very interesting! Reply 1. You said at the beginning: "A simple example: "The king died. Then the queen died." Often enough the historian either fills or severs the gap, e.g. fills in by stating "the queen died of grief"... but i have never come across a history book that says such a thing as... after the king died, the queen died of grief. And really where is the evidence of historians saying as much? And can you be so sure that professors haven't really thought about or looked into, how a queen might have died, whensoever, if she was known to have cried a lot, and taken to her bed out of sadness? Really. Do you have the knowledge and therefore the evidence to support and back up your statement. And sure you then talk about the two books about Stalin. And they are biographies, so will naturally have a start point and end point principally about one person - that will run a bit like a story we might say. And lots of history is chronological. But that history often and naturally involves topics and sub-topics, one chapter at a time. And then there is the issue of different kinds of history book. There is a version that might be understood as popular or public and not proper academic history. The history written by Sebag-Montifiore will surely be the popular kind, trying to be a bestseller! For example there is _In The Lion's Court, power, ambition and sudden death in the reign of Henry VIII_ by Derek Wilson, and then there is _Early Tudor Government 1485-1558_ by Gunn. The latter is a text quoted from and appears in endnotes of more general history books. The Wilson is not. The Gunn is on an under/postgrad reading list. The Wilson is on a shopping list.
@richarddelanet
@richarddelanet Ай бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern Reply 2: You do say that the Figes and McMeekin diverge, and yet later in the paragraph you do say they have the same kinds of information (after all). Beyond that however, a scientific approach to the issue of emphasis might/could involve a survey or study, a focus group: 10 people read one, 10 people read the other; then incisive questions, to see if there is any difference in the reading. To discover if there really was a noticeably different impact due to emphasis/presentation. Perhaps certain things did end up a little buried, whereas via the other things are prominent and more significant. And then again perhaps not. There is ability in writing but there is also ability or capacity in reading.
@curtjarrell9710
@curtjarrell9710 Ай бұрын
Hello Rubin. I don't have a story about empathy and books, but I do have a real-life story about transformative empathy. I had a Christian upbringing and some churches we attended had tendencies to be judgmental towards people in certain circumstances. I learned to put those harmful ideas aside when I met a young, homeless heroin addict named Jonathan. Some of my friends didn't think it was a good idea to help him. They said you can't change him. Nothing good will come of this. Where they saw trouble, I saw an eager young man with big problems who most needed shelter, food and a friend. I bought him a hot chocolate with marshmallows on Christmas Eve. Long story short: We became close friends. I was a father figure to him, lending him an ear, a shoulder and fed him as often as I could. He became like the son I never had. He eventually entered recovery, got a place to live, and went to work for a roofing company. As much as a mere mortal man is able, I loved him unconditionally and non-judgmentally. Twelve years ago, this month he lost his life in an on-the-job accident. We had to open three visitation rooms for all the friends who came to say goodbye. Empathy and caring can change the world around us, one person at a time. I feel privileged to have been his friend. I'll love him and miss him for the rest of my life.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Wow, Curt, that sounds like a resounding experience for a lifetime. As the homeless population has increased, so too have labels and detachment begun to foment among so many who drive by. Each individual becomes a "them," someone far away whose story remains unheard. You took the time to hear and care, and that is as great a gift as a stranger can offer another. It is no wonder your relationship with him became a stepping stone toward his recovery. I am so sorry to hear about the tragic turn of events, but you're right to say you experienced a great privilege in that friendship, and he must've felt the same. Just an incredible story. Thank you for sharing. You've done honor to his memory. 🙏
@VictorAugustus
@VictorAugustus Ай бұрын
I think that is easier to have empathy to a historical figure because we avoid anachronisms, not judging them by our morals. It's hard to know where to draw a line, when people commit certain acts with the intention of being remembered and to inspire others, by having empathy aren't you helping to spread their message? like news avoid to say attackers names, there was a motive to Damnatio memoriae to exist back then. Those dilemmas take a life long effort to reflect on.
@Johanna_reads
@Johanna_reads Ай бұрын
Excellent, thought-provoking video! I went through a very similar journey as a child. The fact that I could be worthy of empathy was an epiphany, and I’m sure that’d be the case for many who’ve been starved from that response. I believe there is a limit to empathy, but boundaries can shift over time. While you might be inclined to have empathy for the perpetrator, that might be too much for the victim or those close to the victim. That boundary may remain firm indefinitely, but maybe space for empathy opens in time. I make a distinction between empathy and compassion. Empathy is the ability or willingness “to put yourself in someone else’s shoes.” Compassion is the additional step of wishing that person freedom from suffering. Compassion might be heartfelt, but you can practice compassion without actually feeling convinced you want that. The Loving Kindness Mediation is to mediatively wish compassion for yourself, someone you love, someone you’re neutral towards, someone you dislike, and then all beings. You don’t have to “feel” compassion, but the practice can elicit that. It’s also been studied that compassion is more powerful than empathy in producing altruism. It can also affect the brain over time. (I recommend the book “Altered Traits” for further research explanations) I agree that we don’t have much control over our perspectives, but I think we can ironically open our minds more when we acknowledge that. Thanks for this thoughtful video, and thank you if you read this super long comment! 😅
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
I remember I used to feel skeptical in reaction to kindness. It felt like they were messing with me in some way, that it must be false, because my prior experiences had been from those who were dismissive and at times cruel (there was also my own inner masculine distancing that wouldn't allow myself to feel gratitude, which I had to grow out of over the years). The meaningfulness of genuine, committed empathy can be life-changing. You bring up such a great point: empathy-in its continuous emotional weight-can sometimes diminish altruism. I believe I read about that in the book Behave by Robert Sapolsky, wherein he describes how sometimes an overabundance of empathic connection can lead to feeling overwhelmed by emotion and thus can lead to shutting down instead of helping. Like a doctor, for instance, if they don't allow themselves some distance might become consumed by their work to the point of breakdown; so many tragedies in that line of work; to persist requires allowing oneself to let go of some of that empathy, at least to an extent. I so very much appreciate the length and thoughtfulness of your comment. 🙏
@Johanna_reads
@Johanna_reads Ай бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern I loved Sapolski’s Behave! So glad to have found your channel, and I appreciate the thoughtful response! 😊
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
The 2 most difficult writers i know are CG JUng and JACOB NEUSNER Both prolific Neusner at 200+++ personal bks + another 800+ as editor Neither author is read much which is why I love both. Neither is understood by the few who read either author which is why I love both even more. I love reading books no one can understand. For so many reasons no one can understand either. Note NO ONE = very few,, and I have not met any as yet. Making both the 2 most important writers of the mod and post mod eras.
@user-yo9pv1ni6t
@user-yo9pv1ni6t Ай бұрын
while reading CG';s Letters Vol 2, on page 70,, I realize while reading CG state he is not a philosopher,,, he is a empiricist 100%, NOTa religious guru,,, so it dawned on me,, I am not a philosopher,,, then what am I.. so I googled Philognosispher,, and arrived at the only post/reference to my Q, on the Forum Philosophy Now from 2013,, He received no answer, Philosophy of Philognosis? Its 2 pages print out and raises excellent Q's on this new term PHILOGNOSIS,, so obviously I am not the very 1st, Looks like someone beat me to the coinage. But has he worked out his Q's??? I want to officially state I am a philognosisPHER, There the 1st coinage of this term. This is how I will describe my researches, and purpose in life. Philosognosispher. AS gnosis is my core belief, That God is Gnosis. The only way to God is via gnosis. That gnosis is the future of mankind, That the New Heaven and New Earth will be Philognosisphers, and no other beings. I hope wiki will identify my name as the originator of the term Philognosisopher, Better PHILOGNOSOPHER,,,maybe Philo-gnosis-pher have not figured out exactly how I want the term spelled out. Yes I have my reasons why gnosis is the future and not sophia. Sophia will be born from gnosis. Gnosis comes 1st, then sophia. Philosophy is dead, Plato gave us the best beginnings. From there it went straight to hell w Aristotle. Philosophy is dead. Nietzsche was the last. Philosophy is being reborn as philognosis-ophy.
@Infinimata
@Infinimata Ай бұрын
Two examples come to mind of how this can work, both diametrically opposed. The first is the work of Hubert Selby, Jr., he who gave us LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN, REQUIEM FOR A DREAM, and many other works. Many of his characters are not good people -- they're junkies, hoodlums, street trash of one kind or another -- but just as many are people left bad because they have no place to go with who and what they are (the prostitute Tralala, the homosexual crossdresser Georgette, the closeted union shop steward Harry Black). Selby once wrote about his experiences making BROOKLYN into a film, and how he broke down sobbing when they screened the scene where Black is beaten half to death near the end of the film. "That poor son of a bitch," Selby said, "he just wanted to be loved." The impulses themselves are not sophisticated, but the way Selby displays and examines them are. We're not invited to excuse bad people or overlook good ones, but to see the greater environment, to know they didn't come from nowhere. This goes a long way towards explaining the long final chapter, "Landsend", essentially a novella in itself, that details the lives of several residents of a Brooklyn housing project, none of whom have anything to do with the earlier parts of the book. This is the world that makes such people possible, and maybe inevitable. We empathize so that we might see better our own bigger circumstances that make the badness possible and the goodness difficult. The other is Akira Kurosawa's movie IKIRU (recently remade, and quite adroitly at that, as LIVING with Bill Nighy in the lead role). It gives us a dolorous city official, whose job is mainly to stamp pieces of paper and move them from one file to another, who has existed but not lived, and who discovers the thread of his life is about to be cut short before he has ever had a chance to actually do anything. This spurs him first to despair, and then to the kind of action that wouldn't be out of place in an Albert Camus story: he takes up the cause to help a local circle of housewives drain a swampy patch of land at an intersection in their neighborhood and turn it into a playground. Then, as Roger Ebert noted in his magisterial discussion, the movie uses a peculiar story construction device to make us go from a spectator or even cheerleader of this man's final fight to an evangelist for it in our own lives. We empathize so that we might be inclined to do more than just read or watch. The bigger purpose of fiction as an empathy machine is to show us what it is like when we do in fact give a damn about each other, or why it is some of us might not.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
This is a remarkably cogent analysis. Fascinating through and through and expands on my thinking while directing it back toward literature itself and the merits therein. I don't have in me at the moment to write an equally long response (tough day, workwise), but I appreciate that you took the time and were so clear and thoughtful. I really, really appreciate it.
@BookishTexan
@BookishTexan Ай бұрын
I think empathy is as individual as anything else. You refer to it as a disposition and I think that is a good way of describing it. We develop empathy over time and as a result of our individual experiences so we will all have differing levels of empathy and empathize differently. And that’s a good thing. Uniform empathy -an agreement on who deserved empathy and who didn’t and how much empathy each kind of person deserved - wouldn’t be empathy at all. That you might feel more empathy for the person who does terrible things than I is a good thing because it means that there are at least some of us to feel empathy for almost every individual. The limits of my own empathy are those who harm people I love (zero empathy) and those who have power and use it to harm multitudes (very little empathy).
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Thank you, Brian, this is such a necessary point: diversity in this outlook is a gift. Each of us can contribute through our own perceptions and priorities, some prioritizing the practical, others the care, others the philosophizing-that is perhaps the essential gift of various perspectives in a society: we can organize attention based on our needs and dispositions, and that is okay for us to have differences in that regard, so long as those differences don't impose or overly neglect. I read what you write and find myself wishing I had made that point myself, but thank you for contributing it to the comments. This is really helpful (and just genuinely thoughtful on your part).
@stefashaler8340
@stefashaler8340 Ай бұрын
Me again. In response to your question, "when do you stop empathizing?", I hope you don't. A person with firm boundaries, ie, knows what they want, what they have to give, what they don't have to give, where one ends and the other begins, doesn't need to worry. One who's comfortable with their own boundaries can feel empathy without any impulse to help, rescue, sermonize, fight, punish, reward or change the other. One doesn't have to do anything or not do anything about the empathy infusing the situation. But the fact that the empathy is genuinely felt within makes the world kinder in my opinion. I don't minimize the beauty of acts of kindness and generosity. but I value empathy in and of itself.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
I could not have said this better myself. Thank you!
@stefashaler8340
@stefashaler8340 Ай бұрын
@@ToReadersItMayConcern You're most welcome. Your videos are so enriching, I appreciate them and the comments very much.
@apoetreadstowrite
@apoetreadstowrite Ай бұрын
Are you drawn to Paul Ricoeur & Martin Buber, & their phenomenological approach to experiencing the strangers we meet as subjects through their stories & memories?
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
I've only read about Ricoeur in relation to language, not either of their works directly. Is there a place I should start?
@severianthefool7233
@severianthefool7233 Ай бұрын
You are offering something on your channel that can be found nowhere else, and that alone is worth commending. Your authenticity is apparent and your endless curiosity about the world makes your videos so compelling . They cut through the crap that’s so abundant on BookTube, and on KZbin generally. Not that there aren’t some great BookTubers out there, but they’re certainly in the minority, it seems.
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
I don't know how to say a big enough thank you for the kindness of your words. Just, thank you immensely, thank you.
@MustReadMore
@MustReadMore Ай бұрын
This is wonderful, you've packed so much into this that I'll probably have to watch it a few times to grasp it all. These are the kinds of questions that people have been asking since language came into being, and there aren't any simple answers. You've given me a lot to think about here, definitely. I've written and rewritten this comment, but nothing I've written seems to do these questions justice, so all I can say is thanks for another spectacular video. It's certainly given my mind a good workout.
@margarethaines9310
@margarethaines9310 Ай бұрын
I believe it is better to try to empathize with the "worst of us". Empathy is NOT agreement or condoning their actions even though we are attempting to "share" their views. Share in understanding perhaps. For instance, a couple of BookTubers apologize as they read "Gone With the Wind". We can all agree that we do not want "the South to rise again" in the form of slavery. However, Mitchell portrays the inner thoughts and motivations of characters living through those times. Empathizing with those "worst" provides an understanding of how build a better society and reminds us what dangers lurk when people are not able to see each other as worthy and equally valuable. Much appreciation for your theorizing!
@owendavis4154
@owendavis4154 Ай бұрын
Curiosity is the engine of empathy. In being curious about the world we have the option to understand new perspectives. For me the motivation is whats important, I dont get caught in the trap of making a value judgement about others actions. The system dynamics are the thing that provide me with the insights I seek from the interaction. Chris Voss talks about Tactical Empathy in his excellent book Never Split the Difference and I have found it a useful tool. I think the thing your sensing when you feel empathy for someone who made a choice you wouldnt make is your own shadow. It puts you in contact with the darker side of your psyche and that is very uncomfortable for some. However that uncomfortable luminal space is the place where true transformation resides for you and for your shadow self, who's invisible hand you cannot escape. True empathy for evil people is realizing that there action dwell within us all. Dr Frankenstein creates his monster then rejects it because it is repulsive to him, he fails to realize his creation is merely a mirror reflecting back his own darkness, his own Nietzschian abyss. I saw a clip talking about a coroner who was called to investigate a suicide.He found a note in the deceased persons home saying that if one person talked to him on the way to the bridge he was going to jump of he would turn around and go home. I think about that every single day. It changed me forever because it made me think of how much power I have. A smile , a complement, a few words of encouragement would have saved that persons life. In casting aside the value judgement and just acting from a place of kindness we realize that the cost of empathy to our self is largely irrelevant if we bring about positive change in the world and rest back control from the invisible hand of our own shadow. Or judgement is the thing that harms us not our empathy. Thank you Ruben beautiful thoughts and words once again.
@haris9360
@haris9360 Ай бұрын
Hey man
@ToReadersItMayConcern
@ToReadersItMayConcern Ай бұрын
Hey!
@jf8559
@jf8559 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this deeply felt and considered reflection on what empathy can mean to individuals and to society. You have really made me think about my own feelings, behaviours, and actions. I just read a book, The Spinning Heart by Donal Ryan, set during Ireland’s economic collapse and I was not at all empathetic with the majority of bad characters. Now I find I must reflect on why I reacted that way. A small trivial example compared to what others are sharing, but I so appreciate your many pearls knotted out for consideration.