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@gblan
@gblan Күн бұрын
About how many fills does that air tank you have there hold for say an Umarex Notos?
@jackmclane1826
@jackmclane1826 5 күн бұрын
I wonder what a real thermometer would have read at the hot end, and not one of these IR guessing devices. They don't work well at all on blank metals. ;)
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 3 күн бұрын
Thanks. I actually use a good Fluke 62 Max Industrial Infrared Thermometer gun as well as the internal temperature gauge (digital) and they essentially read the same when I'm measuring the hottest part of the metal. I'm sure neither are an exact measurement, but I bet they are pretty good reflection of the actual high temps. Obviously, the main point is to keep it as low as possible and never let it get out of control. Thanks for watching!
@jackmclane1826
@jackmclane1826 2 күн бұрын
@@jmarkreed I'm sorry, I didn't mean to mock your tools. But just given the physical principle of measurements no IR thermometer can properly measure on bare metal. And they all have problems focussing on a small piece. How did you use the internal thermometer? By theory the air must be A LOT hotter than this. I'll try my own measurements soon! ;)
@sallutz
@sallutz 9 күн бұрын
Outstanding video and very clearly explained. Thank you! Without your video I would not have known to match the pressure in the tank with the compressor, before opening the tank’s valve. 👍🏻
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
@alfonsoborja4993
@alfonsoborja4993 11 күн бұрын
Thanks Sr your video helped me a lot choosing my back up air tank.
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 11 күн бұрын
Wonderful! Thanks for the encouragement and thanks for watching!
@kricketkricket6737
@kricketkricket6737 4 күн бұрын
​@@jmarkreedHello, good day, you have very nice quality videos, congratulations sir. I have a question for you. Would you recommend 700 cc tuxing carbon fiber?
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 3 күн бұрын
@@kricketkricket6737 I think it would be fine. Of course, it's small and mostly made to directly fit a gun although it could also be used as a small buddy bottle. If you live in the US, you would have to fill it yourself since it's not DOT certified.
@kricketkricket6737
@kricketkricket6737 3 күн бұрын
@@jmarkreed What kind of company is Alsafe?
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 3 күн бұрын
@@kricketkricket6737 Sorry, I'm not familiar with it.
@wildbillcarroll
@wildbillcarroll 13 күн бұрын
Why do you need a separate pressure guage to check tank pressure when the tank has a guage on it??
@noonespecific9463
@noonespecific9463 16 күн бұрын
Another thing many people do not understand is “duty cycle” and how it relates to whatever electric tool they are using. Most people I say the words “duty cycle” to don’t know what it refers to at all. Compressors especially will fail due to overheating , I can just imagine how sensitive those 4500 psi compressors must be. The smaller sized ones I mean. Your videos are most helped, I think this is the third one I’ve watched at this point.
@noonespecific9463
@noonespecific9463 16 күн бұрын
People don’t realize how dangerous compressed air can be, especially at the pressures relating to the pcp guns. I just bought a new rifle with 2 new tanks that I would like to keep moisture and/or contaminants out of. I also purchased a small compressor that has a tiny in line filter , doesn’t look like it’s enough, my tanks were filled once by the place I bought it from when they tested it. It still contains what’s left of that first charging. I don’t understand these guns and tanks yet , but if it’s possible I think I’m going to release the remaining air from the tanks and pull a vacuum on them and hold,it long enough to evaporate any moisture present and start over with a leased nitrogen tank or something. I already lease oxygen and acetylene tanks for my work, so adding something else shouldn’t be a problem. There are probably inert gas choices, lol, I know nothing about these guns I have a feeling this is going to be more expensive than I expected. Most things like this normally are though🤣. Would be interested in your opinion, will sub your channel also.
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 3 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for watching, and I strongly agree that this is going to be far more expensive than you know. Addictions are really hard to control!!
@Festus_Clamrod_
@Festus_Clamrod_ 22 күн бұрын
Excellent video mate presentation is clear and concise!
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 22 күн бұрын
Thank you! And, thanks for watching!
@johnjingleheimer6992
@johnjingleheimer6992 Ай бұрын
I cooled mine with a medium size drum and let the warm water drop on the ground not back in the drum and I put the tank in a thick pvc pipe in the barrel to keep it cool so not to hot fill and the pipe to help in case of explosion. Gx pumps are the best I found .
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed Ай бұрын
GX pumps are good. I agree. I have one too.
@johnjingleheimer6992
@johnjingleheimer6992 Ай бұрын
A little late to this video but I wish I wouldve never bought one of these junk let alone 2 ,the first one completely fell apart and has to be rebuilt constantly and the second one out of the box wont air past 3000psi ,I suggests not buying this crap.
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed Ай бұрын
That’s interesting. I’ve had mine for around 4 years and it’s still going strong. I know there are a lot of YH clones around and I would suspect that what you got. Just a thought.
@KarloBeher
@KarloBeher Ай бұрын
male quickfill with 1way valve wll also help, prevens the tank air to flow out while letteing compressor air to go in
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed Ай бұрын
Yes! Thank you. I use one but most don’t have it so I didn’t mention it. Thanks for watching!
@WLBlack
@WLBlack Ай бұрын
Hey my high compression piston seems to be going to high and locking up because it cannot return the stroke. I'm fairly used to piston strokes from racing motorcycles, 2 strokes, but this thing has ne really confused and hard to find good customer support. I'm getting ready to replace the whole unit or just whole top end but I'm really interested in figuring this out. Also, the top high compression piston is tight!
@kaliszpiotr82
@kaliszpiotr82 Ай бұрын
yes thank you
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@drummer57
@drummer57 Ай бұрын
A lot of wasted air with all those filters
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed Ай бұрын
There will always be a trade off between efficiency and safety. I’m wasting free air to ensure water stays out of my tanks. I think that’s a good trade.
@johnventura2977
@johnventura2977 Ай бұрын
What did your set up cost?
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed Ай бұрын
Wow. What a great question. I'm not going to have a great answer for you since I don't recall at this point, but know that I always consider costs and do extensive research before I buy anything. Know also that anyone getting into PCP airguns is going to spend far more than they think. It's really an addictive hobby/passion that lends itself to getting a lot of stuff. Nevertheless, most don't mind opening their wallets to buy a ton of fun. Ultimately, that's what it's about. Over time, the cost of shooting airguns will probably be less than powder burners considering the differential in ammo cost, but the initial costs will likely be much greater, especially for higher-end guns and air compressor setups.
@paulkunjukutty9205
@paulkunjukutty9205 Ай бұрын
Sir can we use coolant instead of water in bucket
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed Ай бұрын
No, I would not recommend that. Stick with water, but you could certainly add ice. Thanks
@airshootist
@airshootist 2 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for putting this out there!
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@alimenhem3348
@alimenhem3348 2 ай бұрын
Why did you use a high pressure gauge to measure your tank pressure isnt there a pressure gauge on the tank shown??
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 2 ай бұрын
Although your tank may have a "built-in" pressure gauge, depending on the quality of your tank, it may or may not be very accurate. Having a separate dedicated gauge is not a bad idea. At a minimum, you can compare gauges to see if they read the same or not. Dealing with extremely high pressure, it's a good idea to be as accurate as possible. It's just another layer of safety. Thanks for watching!
@Bodhi1satva
@Bodhi1satva 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Just what I needed was a simple demonstration. I watched far too many videos that complicated things beyond my simple brain! Much appreciated! Do you recommend any particular filter or type of filter?
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. I use the "gold filter" that many others use. I ordered mine through Amazon. It has molecular sieve to get the water vapor out before it gets to your tank. I also use a water/oil separator filter before the "gold filter" to get most of the condensed water out. You will probably find some debate about using something like that, but I live in a high humidity area and can see the benefits when I open it during the filling process. A decent amount of water comes out. I don't think it hurts to have it.
@Supertrack238
@Supertrack238 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video for a newbie - that's me!
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for watching!
@slidelltowne183
@slidelltowne183 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the link as I just ordered a dropdown with gauge and fill valve for 10 year old tank. The piece you removed was the overpressure disk. Not sure what it's rated for but guessing 3200 psi. 2900 max for my old valve to keep from locking up. Thx!
@slidelltowne183
@slidelltowne183 3 ай бұрын
..and you are lucky! I'm using a 3 lb hammer to break mine loose, no luck, but bends the SS bolt. Lol, I checked your video to make sure lefty loosey.
@slidelltowne183
@slidelltowne183 3 ай бұрын
Finally! Had to use a pipe wrench directly on the collect as bolt close to breaking off when using that as a lever. Tank was slipping in wooden clamps! Sign of relief when valve broke free! Threads appear to have chemical residue..thread locker? Why Air Force? Anyway on to set up drop down adapter.
@bradfader691
@bradfader691 3 ай бұрын
I modofied the crank shaft on mine to fit a bearing and built a chiller for it aswell. I also put a manometer an solid state relay for an auto shut off
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 3 ай бұрын
That’s great. Sounds like you definitely know what you are doing. Great job!
@bradfader691
@bradfader691 3 ай бұрын
@@jmarkreed i do what i can! Son of a brilliant millwright and it runs in my blood forsure! Ive got three of these compressors and heavily modofied one of them just for scientific purposes lol
@itunesify
@itunesify 3 ай бұрын
Yes, i have a question. Why do i need to let the pressure build before opening the tank? Why can’t i have the tank open already?
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 3 ай бұрын
Because unless the tank is completely empty, it would have a much higher pressure than the compressor at start up. You would essentially have a massive pressure gradient from the tank to the compressor and it would bleed back and destroy the compressor. Waiting on the fill line to reach the same pressure of the tank prevents the pressure gradient. Once you open the tank valve, the pressure in the tank must flow back toward the compressor unless you have a check valve installed to prevent that. Thanks for watching!
@mikegoebel5864
@mikegoebel5864 3 ай бұрын
I fill mine the same way EXCEPT…..I literally put ice into my cooling tank to keep the compressor cool.
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 3 ай бұрын
Yes! I definitely do the same. This video was not focused on the Yong Heng itself, but you can find my full YH set up in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHnIdoKYmtdnmtE Thanks for watching!
@Wickedstickyflowers
@Wickedstickyflowers 4 ай бұрын
I’m very disappointed I ordered CF tanks on my bintac s45 They sent aluminum tanks ! Not sure what I can do?
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 4 ай бұрын
I would definitely give them a call to get it right.
@ShellShockAir
@ShellShockAir 4 ай бұрын
Great informative video! I just bought a 10ltr 300Bar tank but also debating over an oiless compressor for gun fills directly 🔥
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 4 ай бұрын
Both good options. I use both myself. Thanks for watching.
@SC-rb2jr
@SC-rb2jr 4 ай бұрын
I like all the info, very useful. It would be great to see all the connectors that are required between compressor and air bottle, and what each connector is called.
@indyvin
@indyvin 4 ай бұрын
Great video Mark. The main cause of heat in the Yong Heng is the larger, lower cylinder. You have that covered with your high volume fan in the rear. People go crazy cooling the top and the lines, which are already water cooled. Like you, I use ice, which is a must. In the last year, prices have come down on the larger compressors. I recently saw the Hill, from the UK selling for under a thousand US dollars. I,however, am staying with my YH. It does the job at a bargain price.
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 4 ай бұрын
Agree! Thank you.
@MsLincos
@MsLincos 4 ай бұрын
I'm just starting with PCP and this is very valuable information. Thank you sir!
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching, and get ready for the addiction!
@reeseleary4383
@reeseleary4383 4 ай бұрын
What about a fill thats 4500psi .then its going to wear quick just to go from 200bar to 300bar
@johnconnor6725
@johnconnor6725 4 ай бұрын
A view without the window in the background would have been better and A few close ups also
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 4 ай бұрын
It’s not a window. It’s one of my pictures. I do a lot of photography. I agree with the close up’s. This was my first video and just used an iPhone. It was a little challenging. Thanks for watching.
@sergey9986
@sergey9986 5 ай бұрын
This US metric drives me nuts.
@recklessjunkie
@recklessjunkie 5 ай бұрын
hey mark what would you buy right away could you give me a shopping list of the things i need? i have the lasko fan and a bucket so far..
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 5 ай бұрын
I think the only "essentials" besides a bucket with ice water are a good air filter like the "gold" filter and great oil. Everything else are very good extras (like the Lasko fan and a temperature gun) to monitor temperature and enhance cooling. Great oil keeps the YH running well, and a great filter keeps water out of your tank- both incredibly important.
@tbone541
@tbone541 5 ай бұрын
Audio
@emredereli4479
@emredereli4479 5 ай бұрын
Thanks fot the video
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@garynasrallah8710
@garynasrallah8710 5 ай бұрын
I have the same set up, and I cut a little opening out of a one gallon milk jug Leaving the handle. and I fiill the milk jug up 3/4 of the way full and freeze them. So I have several of them in my freezer and then I put it in the 5 gallon bucket of water, I can fill a full tank an that water stays very cold and then when I'm done I just fill it back up an put it back in the freezer for next time. Works great
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that's a great idea. I have an ice machine that makes it easier for me and gives me a good excuse to clean it out when I use the YH. Ice is definitely the key!
@NowIsChannel
@NowIsChannel 5 ай бұрын
Hello Mark. I want to use a compressor to transfer Helium from large baloons back in to a cylinder/tank which has 200bar. I´m looking for a cheap transportable compressor which has like a small opening where is sucks the air which it is compressing so that i can add a tube and connect it with the baloon. So it musn´t have big slots and holes regarding this purpose. Can you please recommend me a Compressor ? Can you please tell me how the Yong Heng - Compressor absorbs the air , does it have a small hole ? PLeas help me , thx !!
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 5 ай бұрын
Wow. That's an interesting question. I wish I could help you with it, but I can't recommend something that is outside the intended purpose of the unit. The YH has a small air intake, but I have no idea how you could attach a hose to it. I'm sure it could ultimately be done, but that doesn't mean that it's a good idea. Sorry, I'm not much help with this one.
@recklessjunkie
@recklessjunkie 6 ай бұрын
Would you fill up a 74 cu ft in one shot ? With this yong heng thank you
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 5 ай бұрын
No, definitely not. I just do incremental fills myself. I don't let the tank get too low. I'll usually get it down to around 200 bar before filling it back to 290 bar. I don't want to make the machine work too hard or too long.
@recklessjunkie
@recklessjunkie 5 ай бұрын
@@jmarkreed ok I’m probably gonna get one and you wouldn’t atleast recommend 300 bar it’s still less then 310 bar.?
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 5 ай бұрын
Well...my YH is the type that cuts off automatically at a certain pressure, and although I tell it to cut off at 300 bar, it wants to cut off at 290, so I let it. No sense in making a big fuss over 10 bar. It's happy and I'm happy.@@recklessjunkie
@crazyc99
@crazyc99 6 ай бұрын
Awesome thank you for sharing
@davidhayes8492
@davidhayes8492 6 ай бұрын
What is the gauge for on the top of the tank? It doesn’t tell you the pressure of the air inside the tank? Thanks
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 6 ай бұрын
Yes, it's a pressure gauge, but most that you get on a lot of tanks are not necessarily great. Having a good quality gauge can be really helpful and there are some good alternative gauge options that you can use instead. Few gauges will continually read the internal tank pressure at all times.
@jeremyarnold1979
@jeremyarnold1979 6 ай бұрын
I bought the yong heng knock off for 185.00 and I just past the 6 year mark with it, but it is now ready for a rebuild its slowed way down on the fill time just this year. I'm fixing to buy another one if I can get a true yong heng compressor
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 6 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s fantastic! I’d say you got your money’s worth.
@5shotsr611
@5shotsr611 7 ай бұрын
Can these be filled with a machine that fills oxygen tanks? 🤔
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 7 ай бұрын
No
@226eagleeye
@226eagleeye 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark. Am about to to just this. It was nice of you to demonstrate.
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 7 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for watching! Hope it all goes well.
@surreallife777
@surreallife777 7 ай бұрын
I’m new to this but it’s confusing. My understanding scuba tanks are cheaper because they are heavier and they have a lower capacity? My PCP rifle has a 250 bars/500 cc bottle attached to it. I asked someone else about using a small scuba to keep in my backpack for portability and average scuba tank for my car and he said the maximum average of an air tank is 3000 psi so this will not fully refill your airgun as you will be short of a full refill and as you keep refilling it, you will get less and less air into your airgun. If I can get more than one fill from a scuba tank, why won’t it fill my PCP gun fully the first time and less and less the more times you refill your PCP Gun? I have enclosed what he wrote before. This is the part I don’t understand. Simply put, How many times can I refill my gun with a small portable scuba tank and how many refills with a normal sized scuba tank?
@slidelltowne183
@slidelltowne183 7 ай бұрын
Got one on the way. I see that the grease syringe is no longer supplied, cost saving? Lost of little questions popping up. Thanks for video!
@pestcontrolservice8653
@pestcontrolservice8653 7 ай бұрын
Where I put the thermostat I can not find where this little pin need to go
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 7 ай бұрын
The thermometer probe tip fits in the wide round silver base of the compression chamber (on top) just above the black portion on the handle side.
@pestcontrolservice8653
@pestcontrolservice8653 7 ай бұрын
@@jmarkreed thanks I find it😅
@peggysmith5853
@peggysmith5853 7 ай бұрын
another question I have a dragger one hr scab tank. I would like to change the regulator /fill valve to a pc p valve. Can you point me in. the right direction.? I purchased this valve before I got the tank and not sure of the thread [High Pressure Air Tank Charging Valve 300Bar Filling Station Cylinder Refill Adapter With M18x1.5 Thread ] from tuxing thanks for the time I want to use it as a buddy tank to tank on trips
@YZFMANIAC08
@YZFMANIAC08 8 ай бұрын
I’ve learned you always bleed the compressor upfront before closing the tankvalve
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. My tank (like most) does not have a check valve which would prevent the back flow of pressure towards the compressor. Once the compressor is stopped there should be equal pressure throughout the entire system and allow the closure of the tank valve without causing any pressure flow in either direction. Without a check valve on the tank, if the bleed valves are opened on the compressor pressure would start flowing from the tank towards the compressor and I would lose some of the pressure I’ve tried to save in the tank. That’s why I do it that way.
@fabiosantos8591
@fabiosantos8591 8 ай бұрын
The most important thing you didn't say is how long it takes to fill the bottle up to, and what temperature we can let the compressor go without having problems damaging it? Compressor temperature is very important.
@jmarkreed
@jmarkreed 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching. The main point of this particular video was to give a concise tutorial on the actual filling of a tank. The type of compressor or tank was not relevant for this discussion. I have a separate video discussing the Yong Heng in particular which may answer some of your questions. The time it takes to fill a particular tank completely depends on the size of the tank, the existing pressure in the tank, the pressure to ultimately be achieved in the tank, and the output capacity of the compressor used to fill the tank. There is no set time for filling any tank. I agree that compressor temperature is very important, and I address that in my Yong Heng video. As far as I know, there is no agreed to minimal temperature that would guarantee damage to the Yong Heng, but I would strongly recommend keeping the temperature as low as possible. Thanks again.
@k.w.3620
@k.w.3620 8 ай бұрын
Hello, it's been a while since the video... One question... I have the same compressor. Is it normal that the red valve always releases air intermittently at slightly higher pressure? Maybe someone knows an answer?