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@raulc398
@raulc398 Күн бұрын
Beautiful!!you should have a cero clearance cutting area,so we can replace it and never damage the table
@EdE6688
@EdE6688 2 күн бұрын
My only problem with this is i have to calculate the bushing into to the measurements of the cut out. While with DIY solutions you can put the jig on the exact line of the cutout no need for any math to factor int your guide bushing in the measurements.
@UpcycleFab
@UpcycleFab 2 күн бұрын
Take my M🤑NEY please! L😍VE this! You didn’t show the handles…all of the add-ons seem VERY useful!
@garethwebb896
@garethwebb896 6 күн бұрын
If the track was needed without the adapter a small slide stop fitted into the rail could be used to mark the position of the male adapter if the female part was left in the MFT.
@garethwebb896
@garethwebb896 6 күн бұрын
Will you be upgrading the rail square MFT adapters to this design
@jacobzink6472
@jacobzink6472 8 күн бұрын
Will Benchdogs now make a rail guide that attaches to your extrusion rails?
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 6 күн бұрын
Yes. Will be released soon.
@neelamharia4225
@neelamharia4225 16 күн бұрын
Great product. Can these also be fitted to your rail square to make lifting it in and out easier?
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 6 күн бұрын
Yeas. Just waiting on some tooling and stock.
@upstatebarnwoods9661
@upstatebarnwoods9661 17 күн бұрын
Table arrived yesterday and the quality is absolutely superb!! Thanks Ralph & Hannah at bench dogs UK!!!!
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 17 күн бұрын
Great to hear.
@JohnMcGrathManInShed
@JohnMcGrathManInShed 24 күн бұрын
That looks like a cracking bit of kit
@rogerbarr2455
@rogerbarr2455 25 күн бұрын
Is there any assembly/instruction manual? I found the leg.clamping system unable to completely hold the legs at either extreme. Using the sliding white supports the table is very stable but when the legs are folded down into the top I worry the legs might fall down out of the table top due to the inability to clamp the four leg clamps.
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 24 күн бұрын
There is a leg clip fitted on the table. Once you close the legs this clips into the leg which then holds it in place. If you want to tighten the cam leaver you can also do this you just might need to turn them first.
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks 26 күн бұрын
Shipping to Canada is 680 dollars. Thats Money that could go into the business. For that reason I’m out . Dashboard USA is North American and a similar style
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 26 күн бұрын
Not sure where you are getting your prices from. The shipping is not that for a single table.
@Ericec4126
@Ericec4126 27 күн бұрын
You guys need to send this to KZbinrs in America to review this
@kevinwillis6707
@kevinwillis6707 27 күн бұрын
Can you use the outriggers on the ends as well as the sides? Thanks
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 24 күн бұрын
Yes. The system is modular and can attach to any corner
@antarcticmonkeys
@antarcticmonkeys 29 күн бұрын
The only thing dissuading me is the $270 shipping costs to the US.
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 29 күн бұрын
But when you remove the VAT from the price as USA do not pay this this saves you over $130. And is till cheaper than the competition
@philippeterson9512
@philippeterson9512 Ай бұрын
There’s a good gif to be made at the 1:31 mark. 😂
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools Ай бұрын
😂
@ericberman4193
@ericberman4193 Ай бұрын
Good video, very informative.
@brendon72
@brendon72 Ай бұрын
A router table add-on for this would be fantastic. Also, I wonder if a new version of the quad hinge that attaches to the frame rather than the worktop too maximise space, is on your your roadmap? Love your products, have several and will be ordering an MFT soon.
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools Ай бұрын
Yes we have a prototype of this and will be releasing soon. We have also shown a photo of a router table in one of the outriggers that we are also working on.
@peterwolf3001
@peterwolf3001 Ай бұрын
when it doesn't weigh over 30 kilos and when those clamps fit the legs so you can hinge a door, when it doesn't take up loads of space folded you might be close to the chestnut versatable which is sub 200 quid. ! and its more stable , versatile and lighter. it also fits through a doorway. I won't be buying anything else you make cos I bought your fence for the Festool battery table saw and it's a piece of s*^t.
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools Ай бұрын
Yes it is over 30kg Folded the dimensions are 114x74x10. So not a huge size. Definitely not £200 or below a door system will come but this sounds like it’s not a table for you. As for the CSC fence. You may have set up wrong to be able to come up with a comment that you have. Many happy customers with this system and we don’t see any emails from you to ask any questions about it.
@gregfraser3852
@gregfraser3852 Ай бұрын
That is a great idea I’m just been setting up my table and I’m going to be ordering some
@timlist4173
@timlist4173 Ай бұрын
So this is just for the festool routers?
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools Ай бұрын
Nope any routers can use this We just have the Festool to hand
@panino04
@panino04 Ай бұрын
Too bad you decided to exit from Europe, the custom fees and taxes are outrageous. I bought a parallel guide some time ago, and it's a superb product. Unfortunately there where some problems with the extrusion so you had to send for, for three times, some replacements part, and I had to pay custom fees each time. The parallel guide costed me 50% more than the original price...it's not worth it, even if the quality is outstanding
@benchdogs-tools
@benchdogs-tools Ай бұрын
You might be unclear about the fees associated with purchasing from the UK as an EU customer. When you order from a UK-based company, the 20% VAT charged in the UK is removed from your order total. However, upon receiving the item in your EU country, you will be required to pay your country's VAT, which can vary, with rates around 25% in some areas. In addition, there may be a courier handling fee of approximately €15 for processing your order. If customs duties apply, these can be around 5%, depending on the product. Therefore, the total added cost would not reach 50%. Even if we were still within the EU, you would still be liable for VAT. The total additional costs could be a maximum of 5% (for duties) plus the courier fee. It’s essential to recognise that not everyone in the UK wanted to leave the EU, and a broader understanding of these changes would be beneficial for all involved.
@panino04
@panino04 Ай бұрын
@@benchdogs-tools I got the right informations about the additional fees I had to pay both on your website and on the custom's website I visited before placing the order, I paid about € 157 for my order (130 for the goods and 27 for shipping) and € 51 to the courier for taxes and custom fees. Unfortunately the guide was not precise while using it to perform some narrow cuts so you sent me a pair of new brackets, and for that I had to pay around € 23 but that was not resolutive, so you sent me another set of extrusion and for that I had to pay another € 29. I understand the first € 51 I paid were for vat and custom fees and, as I said, I was prepared to pay them, but in conseguence of a problem with the goods I received I had to pay an extra of € 52 to solve it. I have to say the support I received from your team was outstanding, but the problems I encountered cost me 30% more than the initial order value....
@chuckgrumble5440
@chuckgrumble5440 Ай бұрын
Any idea if the bushing plate works with porter cable type imperial bushings or does it only house your metric brand bushings?
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools Ай бұрын
We are making imperial sets soon.
@jacobsessum607
@jacobsessum607 Ай бұрын
are there videos of this table being used, not just setup but how all the accessories function with the track system
@jacobsessum607
@jacobsessum607 Ай бұрын
can the outriggers be installed on the same end of the table to extend it a little longer and then form the right angle or can it only be installed on one the face at each end? is there videos of how they install?
@ImLeeBee
@ImLeeBee Ай бұрын
I bought by regular style UJK ones last year. I used them once to test them out and haven't used them since due to the pain of trying to get my track back off the table. Worse still, I own Mafell tracks which means they're not compatible with UJK's rail clips or the magnetic alternatives I've seen. These look like a great solution!
@chrisket1234
@chrisket1234 Ай бұрын
When will these be able to ship to the US? I need MFT tables for an upcoming mobile project and I would like to buy some of yours :)
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools Ай бұрын
These are available now to buy. We have to ship the pre orders first.
@chrisket1234
@chrisket1234 Ай бұрын
@@Benchdogtools I went to buy the Ultra setup but can’t do the almost $800 shipping fee… cool product though
@kevinronald4137
@kevinronald4137 Ай бұрын
It would be lovely if you could as an extra provide a sheet lift system. The simple rocker is what I have in mind. As we get older lifting these sheets can be tricky .
@bradjones5266
@bradjones5266 Ай бұрын
that would be a good addition and also a router table add on
@bradjones5266
@bradjones5266 Ай бұрын
Can we see you cut a full sheet of MDF on the table set up. I'm interested and feel seeing the table in action is missing from your videos. Cheers.
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools Ай бұрын
Yes we will doing more videos soon.
@ImLeeBee
@ImLeeBee Ай бұрын
Wouldn't you cut full sheets on the ground? I feel like it would be difficult to reach across a full sheet safely with the saw.
@bradjones5266
@bradjones5266 Ай бұрын
@@ImLeeBeeTake a look at the other videos showing the table with extensions. It can accommodate an 8x4 sheet, and the main advantage is the precision you get with the rail hinge and the fence with stops. I need to see it in action to understand how everything works together as part of the system.
@ImLeeBee
@ImLeeBee Ай бұрын
@@bradjones5266 Don't get me wrong, I understand that. I'm just thinking about how when a full sheet is raised that high, physically reaching across the whole length to make the cut could get difficult or dangerous. For square cuts of that size, best option would probably be a rail square. For accurate repeat cuts, parallel guides. That's just my opinion of course, we each have our own needs and methods.
@outfoxthefox
@outfoxthefox 6 күн бұрын
@@ImLeeBeewe need a cordless self propelled track saw.
@jorgwalter1954
@jorgwalter1954 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@RobyWanKenobi
@RobyWanKenobi Ай бұрын
Can you connect the tables length way?
@robertpearce8394
@robertpearce8394 Ай бұрын
At the end of the video, Ralph explains how to do that using the connection kit.
@RobyWanKenobi
@RobyWanKenobi Ай бұрын
​@@robertpearce8394He states you can do tables side to side, you can not do extensions side to side. Doesn't not mention end to end.
@RalphBD
@RalphBD Ай бұрын
@@RobyWanKenobi 3.08, i explain this about the extensions.
@James-dv1df
@James-dv1df Ай бұрын
​​@@RalphBD brilliant video. Think question is same as I had. Which is can you connect two tables together with joining kit in a long line? I know you said in the video you can connect side to side but was not sure about if the feet would clash connecting length ways E.g order two tables rather extension and connect together on either width or length
@RobyWanKenobi
@RobyWanKenobi Ай бұрын
​@@James-dv1dfYes. I want to buy 2 tables so I can have a longer table but also be able to use 2 independently. I do not want the extensions since they can't be used independently.
@b3owu1f
@b3owu1f Ай бұрын
Can you answer.. how stable is it? I have the KREG table which is similar to this.. same sort of thin medal foldout brackets that hold the legs.. and it wobbles like crazy and worse, the little buttons that you push to unlock those and lock in place.. are horrible. I've had all 4 break off and now have to use screws in the holes to hold the legs open while I lift it in to position. A table like this.. really needs sturdy thick legs. IT is partly why the Festool version is so nice.. but way too expensive. Just a metal frame with a MDF top should not be more than $300 or so.
@benchdogs-tools
@benchdogs-tools Ай бұрын
If you level it to your floor, the table will be very sturdy. For $300, I'm sure there are Chinese-made tables out there that can fit your budget, so this table may not be the table for you with your budget.
@b3owu1f
@b3owu1f Ай бұрын
@@benchdogs-tools For sure. Not trying to make it sound like your table is too expensive either. The Kreg for $500 was ok at best, even leveled it was still wobbly but works (still have it). The problem I have is with the fold up/stand up mechanisms. They are too weak for repeated use it seems. Maybe your table solves that issue, but I feel like the hardware of the legs and the folding mechanism are just too weak for long term use. I'd want more stout legs and a heavier hinge mechanism of some sort, at least based on my kreg table and a few others I've seen. Including the Festool one.
@b3owu1f
@b3owu1f Ай бұрын
I'll add looking at your table more close up, you do seem to have a more sturdy set of legs. The thing metal brace that holds the legs when open still looks a bit thin, but I suspect that could be thickened if need be. The design looks better than Kreg and Festool though. So props to you for that. Being in the US would probably make it super expensive to ship from the UK though.
@TheTranq
@TheTranq Ай бұрын
Any updates on when these start shipping?
@benchdogs-tools
@benchdogs-tools Ай бұрын
Yes we are starting production now we have all our parts in and the pre-orders will start shipping from next week w/c 7th Oct
@TheTranq
@TheTranq Ай бұрын
@@benchdogs-tools great! I’m planning to place an order soon
@upstatebarnwoods9661
@upstatebarnwoods9661 Ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful!!! Ordered this set up within 30 seconds of seeing this video! Amazing company & customer service is incredible!!
@benchdogs-tools
@benchdogs-tools Ай бұрын
Thank you for your order.
@davidsneddon2242
@davidsneddon2242 Ай бұрын
Simplicity and genius all at the same time.
@newera3757
@newera3757 Ай бұрын
I want some of your expensive toys for a little less. Any Holidays coming up / discount codes?
@jgraeff1
@jgraeff1 2 ай бұрын
Is this compatible with the festool miter saw extension wings?
@benchdogs-tools
@benchdogs-tools Ай бұрын
This is adjustable to the height of a festool table
@castlecodersltd
@castlecodersltd 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, I wasn't quite sure from just looking at your website. All the best 🙂
@castlecodersltd
@castlecodersltd 2 ай бұрын
Nice 🙂
@Indyoliver1707
@Indyoliver1707 2 ай бұрын
Great product, are you going to offer a track saw bundle with the bench similar to Festools. I know you don’t do the track but you could have everything else. A one stop shop would be great for people.
@benchdogs-tools
@benchdogs-tools Ай бұрын
Yes, we have the bundles online with the fence and Hinge system.
@markwhippey8352
@markwhippey8352 2 ай бұрын
Would these work on a Parkside rail? Presumably one would need the appropriate track bolts.
@ronnash7289
@ronnash7289 2 ай бұрын
New to benchdog products - Reviews look great - just ordered a set of these, along with a MFT fence bundle. Looking forward to receiving and using.
@TheTranq
@TheTranq 2 ай бұрын
Looks really good
@markjackson2276
@markjackson2276 2 ай бұрын
Hello, these look good and I have ordered a set but i just realised while watching the video again that i have my rail in the last line of holes which means my new rail dogs would sit in front of the fence? So this obviously wouldn't work so i would have to pull my fence forward one row to place the rail dog behind it and this would reduce my width of cut? Would i be right or am i missing something, as i haven't got them yet, i havebeenusing a Peter Millard design rail hinge up to now....just thinking things through 🤔🤔🤔
@JamesSmith-dt3yf
@JamesSmith-dt3yf 2 ай бұрын
Lovely engineering. Just got a set
@christophersouza8792
@christophersouza8792 2 ай бұрын
Ralph did you block me from commenting about the diamond shape dog/pin???? Because I cannot reply to your comment. That's not how a diamond pin works mate....the shape is a lead to a full diameter, this case 20mm. All you need to do is take one of your MK1 dogs and make diamond shape, leave a full round land, whatever 5mm, it doesn't matter it just needs to locate in the perf. That reduces the friction on one hole thus eliminating the canter leverage of trying to remove two perfectly sized dogs. You only need a handful of millimeters of protrusion into the perf top....all it's doing is locating, the full round dog does the rest. Then upon removal, once the full round portion of the diamond shape is out of the hole removing the guide rail is easy.
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 2 ай бұрын
No not blocked you, not sure why you cant reply
@christophersouza8792
@christophersouza8792 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure either but YT will not allow me to reply on that post only. Whatever it doesn't matter. I'd be happy to explain in great detail the form, fit and function of diamond pins in the design of jigs and fixtures. Hop on a Zoom if you'd like. I'm here to help I'm not being an argumentative prick.... I save that for friends and family😅​@@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 2 ай бұрын
@@christophersouza8792 Lol. like the comment Let me look on how practical it is. machining time is also a factor as the diamond design would increase. the deisgn we have is practical and functional and works well, do you have a set and have you tried them.?
@JW_Home_Improvements
@JW_Home_Improvements 2 ай бұрын
Game changing! ❤
@grahamallen1970
@grahamallen1970 2 ай бұрын
Sounds good will they use without a countersink in dog hole?
@christophersouza8792
@christophersouza8792 2 ай бұрын
You've reduced the friction mate, you haven't eliminated it. As you may know there's what's called a diamond pin in the machine tool industry. Have you considered making one pin diamond shaped? That would eliminate all this nonsense. I'm not convinced this is the best solution Ralph.....
@benchdogs-tools
@benchdogs-tools 2 ай бұрын
How can you tighten the dog up if the shape is not round without turning the guide dog in the hole, which would then lose accuracy with the consistent rotation of the dog in the hole? The theory of the shape would not work in this situation.
@GhostofTatooine
@GhostofTatooine 2 ай бұрын
oky. silly question time. I can see 4 indents then the one around the side, 19mm. however how do you get 6 other sizes from 4 indents. just bought these BTW and they are amazing peices of kit.
@Benchdogtools
@Benchdogtools 2 ай бұрын
6mm without collar. 12mm with collar all the way up. No holes required for this ones.
@GhostofTatooine
@GhostofTatooine 2 ай бұрын
@@Benchdogtools nice.