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@jamesegbert880
@jamesegbert880 Күн бұрын
Will it work on a roll up door with no wire tention connected
@rcvolts1283
@rcvolts1283 20 күн бұрын
Excellent explanation and video. Simple. Informative.
@Stevesbe
@Stevesbe 21 күн бұрын
Gloves that great stuff takes a long time to wear off
@alexshyshkov8585
@alexshyshkov8585 27 күн бұрын
I wouldn't "air seal" it. In my opinion it's better to leave 1/2 inch gap on top and bottom and also don't bother with spray foam at all. Well, spray foam all the cuts through the drywall is a good idea, like that power outlet. But your insulation layers outward from the drywall should "breathe"
@Self_sufficient_
@Self_sufficient_ 2 ай бұрын
any opinions on which type of foam board to use? XPS, EPS, polyiso, or NGX?
@tgaming1893
@tgaming1893 3 ай бұрын
a 1/2 inch from each side = 1 inch off, there are four sides! but i see you mean just a half inch from 2 sides top and a side to make your 1/4 inch gap all around.
@anti-everybody
@anti-everybody 3 ай бұрын
i dont see horizontal wood at the end of my rafters i just see dark holes with insulation stuffed in them
@blakeworsham3026
@blakeworsham3026 4 ай бұрын
How has this performed since installing? Looking to do something similar to a few knee walls
@Sam-ky2ib
@Sam-ky2ib 5 ай бұрын
Whats the best way to attach the fiberglass batt insulation onto the foam boards?
@MichaelSmith-os1pp
@MichaelSmith-os1pp 7 ай бұрын
how do they dry when they get moisture?
@MichaelKeklak
@MichaelKeklak 9 ай бұрын
I would love to install rockwool comfortboard on my knee wall but I got a devils triangle (osb wall, fiberglass batts in floor,rafters)and can not get there. Any ideas?
@peacemaker_---
@peacemaker_--- 9 ай бұрын
I simply ask my insurance company what is covered before buying materials. They might deny your claim especially if it's a DIY. The air bubbles inside expanded polystyrene board stop heat transfer but can accumulate moisture making it ineffective. Any type of the foam crap will melt and drip fire. I just pay the high utilities and let my house breathe. Better than wasting your time and money creating your own mold problem!
@daves3819
@daves3819 9 ай бұрын
In cold environments none of alternatives using fiberglass or foam board or spray foam are ideal. Moisture will travel through the wood joists (or the inevitable holes and gaps missed) and deposit on the cold surfaces of the rim joist. Now that the water is trapped, it begins to rot the wood. Ever wonder why it's impossible to keep paint on the exterior surfaces of wood windows? It's the same process .... moisture transits through the wood from inside the home and deposits between the wood and the paint on the exterior .... and voila .... the paint peels!! The only way to stop rim joist damage is to stop the rim joist from getting cold in the first place. This is done by insulating the "exterior" wall, rim joist and concrete foundation from the outside to keep it warm so moisture cannot get deposited on it from the inside. It took me years of research and thousands $$ in damage to figure this out and finally get control of the situation :)
@karlakay
@karlakay Ай бұрын
Thank you That is the issue that brought me to this video. Our 20 yr house with amazing ICF Basemen is insulated enougj, but the west facing rim joist have regular fiberglass batt pieces loosely inserted and now we see evidence of moisture & upstairs subfloor issues in a corner area. Those end boards of joists technically terminate At or Under a raised concrete porch. Memory is ends were sealed with something (remembered guy applying wasn't wearing a mask or eye protection & overcome w fumes). So you think putting nothing there is better than filler that attracts & holds moisture against the wood. Right? Thank you for any clues !
@markmartin7384
@markmartin7384 Ай бұрын
​@@karlakaywhat area do you live in and did your fiberglass batts have a vapour barrier over top?
@karlakay
@karlakay Ай бұрын
@@markmartin7384 Central Ohio. Over the top? Not connected to each piece of batting. Above is subfloor, and in one problem area is tile with its tile underlayment Some type of painted on, noxious sealant product at ends, between of each joist. About to take them all out this weekend & decide what is needed ICF Basement is heated / conditioned and NOT humid / moldy - but those few corner endplates that had batting.
@jeffreyspence2510
@jeffreyspence2510 9 ай бұрын
I pulled the batt insulation away from the rim joist to locate a huge snake and the rim joist were covered with ice. So I left the insulation out of this area so the board could breathe.
@paulg11552
@paulg11552 9 ай бұрын
what a pain in the ass this is
@chipsun2504
@chipsun2504 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU
@mere_cat
@mere_cat 10 ай бұрын
Question: In the video at the end you see the end joist with caulking but no foam board. Is that right or should you air seal the end joist as well? One of my end joists is damn near impossible to access because of the foundation and an adjoining joist are like 2 inches apart. Previous homeowner stuffed a bunch of fiberglass up there which isn’t doing much for air seal. Any thoughts?
@exstinguishify
@exstinguishify 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget to turn the water heater pilot light off the flammable gasses are no joke unfortunately the best way to clean uncured foam off you is flammable liquids like gas or acetone ect.
@anthonyreznik8883
@anthonyreznik8883 10 ай бұрын
Caulking is a waste of time and not particularly suitable to confined spaces. I you spay with closed cell foam properly it will seal well. If you want to go an additional step use Henry Stop Leak spray.
@ChannelOne-1
@ChannelOne-1 10 ай бұрын
Nicely explaining this method. I would lean towards a closed cell spray foam kit. Much fewer steps and you’ll be guaranteed to not have any leaks.
@terrencesauve
@terrencesauve 9 ай бұрын
The closed-cell spray foam kits arent approved for that use in Canada, didn't pass the tests, not sure why.
@ChannelOne-1
@ChannelOne-1 9 ай бұрын
@@terrencesauve That makes no sense. Inch for inch it’s probably the highest R value material and is an automatic vapor barrier!
@guymandudely324
@guymandudely324 10 ай бұрын
If you have an unfinished basement (as I do), why is this necessary?
@AdventuresAtHome1
@AdventuresAtHome1 11 ай бұрын
Have you noticed a difference since doing this?
@SouthernGent007
@SouthernGent007 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great info. Great job. Just one safety suggestion. Cutting foam like that with a miter saw can cast thousands of micro particles in the air that you breathe. You may want to wear a mask (didn’t look like I saw one, I could’ve missed it). Can’t be good for you.
@patty109109
@patty109109 9 ай бұрын
Facts. This stuff cuts very nicely with a carving knife and a straight edge-score it and snap.
@terrencesauve
@terrencesauve 9 ай бұрын
isnt is also better to take EPS instead of extruded styrofoam ? Simply because of the lower cost of EPS, but also because of the off-gassing from the extruded foams.
@СаняРустиков
@СаняРустиков 11 ай бұрын
Isn't the exposed foam board a fire hazard?
@76TomD
@76TomD 10 ай бұрын
Yes and code most places require it to be covered
@ximenoworks
@ximenoworks 11 ай бұрын
Dont use the styro and fiberglass in the basements. Its too much of a fire hazard and the fumes that styro gives off. Us Roxul instead. Roxul is flame resistant to the melting point of Steel and water resistant. Using Roxul will give you a lot more time to escape a fire situation than fiberglass /styro.. Cut it a 1/4 or 1/2 more than you need and tuck it in. Once in it will not fall out.
@karlakay
@karlakay Ай бұрын
Do you mean Rockwool?
@janoginski5557
@janoginski5557 11 ай бұрын
On a different point, the access holes for your services should not be where they are, they should be drilled on the central axis of the joints. By locating them as is, the joists loading capacity will be reduced.
@ranger178
@ranger178 11 ай бұрын
i have been trying different ways of doing this on my house but I did not want to leave foamboard exposed because of fire rules saying it can't be exposed to living space so smake doesn't poison people if it catches fire.
@ktm3850
@ktm3850 11 ай бұрын
Good job, well done
@dionfrutos7997
@dionfrutos7997 11 ай бұрын
Is it okay when I put r13 rolls in between floor frame seal with 1/4 inch plywood ?i have dirt crawlspace. ?
@ranger178
@ranger178 11 ай бұрын
all depends on where you live if ground is wet you might want plastic over ground is there vents between ground and floor in cold north people put vapor barrier towards house in south they put it towards outside for hot moist outside air.
@misterman3379
@misterman3379 Жыл бұрын
Is 35 year old caulk ok?
@shonufftheshogun
@shonufftheshogun Жыл бұрын
The foam board needs drywall in front to meet code for fireproofing.
@macfiona4545
@macfiona4545 Ай бұрын
He said to put fiberglass blanket on top with in effect are fireproofing it
@sharpe67
@sharpe67 Жыл бұрын
Poor video. Six minutes of the guy’s back.
@WillLeingang
@WillLeingang Жыл бұрын
Super helpful to motivate me to get on this.
@pokerswag
@pokerswag Жыл бұрын
I was told these pink owens corning foam boards are combustible and cannot be left exposed in most crawl space applications
@adamsadogierski7646
@adamsadogierski7646 10 ай бұрын
👍
@twan923
@twan923 9 ай бұрын
Every XPS product at all the stores mention they cannot be left exposed in an indoor application. Must have min 15min fire break. I've also seen another KZbin channel even compare closed cell, open cell, fiberglass, and rockwool insulation to see which burns faster. Quite alarming.
@slo232000
@slo232000 Жыл бұрын
never and i repeat NEVER have standard fiberglass batts in the rim joist cavities. If those cold condensating rim joists have any warm air meeting them in extremely cold months, it's a disastrous condensation/mold/mildew issue and learning that from experience with a new home build. from doing this project entirely myself, i would strongly recommend cutting foamular pieces, angling all edges (so foam expands better on all corners, gluing the foamular to rim joist FIRST with loctite PL 300 adhesive and once dried go back and foam the edges to seal it out. The foam board doesn't always rest tight against rim joist when foaming the edges i found they would sometimes pop out and not sit flush. Gluing first is definitely the way to go.
@zachgoestoeuro
@zachgoestoeuro Жыл бұрын
So if the boards are glued to the rim joists, are you able to easily remove them if needed for various inspections down the road?
@slo232000
@slo232000 Жыл бұрын
@@zachgoestoeuro yes, the foam board glue is just a bead to fasten the foam board securely in place against the rim joist. if you don't, the board will slide all over while trying to foam the outer edges and it can be messy. spray foam doesn't firm up for quite some time either. you can always cut out the foam at a later date and easily replace it too.
@zachgoestoeuro
@zachgoestoeuro Жыл бұрын
@@slo232000 thanks!
@slo232000
@slo232000 Жыл бұрын
@@zachgoestoeuro welcome! i would suggest rockwool on the inside once foam board is sealed, it's a MUCH more superior product to fiberglass batts, moisture and fire resistance, etc.
@zachgoestoeuro
@zachgoestoeuro Жыл бұрын
@@slo232000 thanks. Two questions on using rockwool: 1. Does it simply “float” on top of the foam board or do you somehow glue it to the foam board? 2. I’m seeing some people use aluminum tape the four sides of the rockwool to the joists to limit intrusion of rodents. Seeking your general impression on that. I’m fine with the extra expense.
@csimet
@csimet Жыл бұрын
I just had fiberglass batt in the rim joist cavities. Pulled it out and put in foam board and spray foam to seal (like you showed), then put the fiberglass back in... no harm and adds just a bit more R-value. My suggestion for even better performance, especially in a crawl space or unheated basement... staple and seal "double-bubble" (Reflectix) insulation sheet to the bottoms of the floor joists and seal those joist cavities across the entire crawl space or basement. Greatly helps keep the floors warmer. Cheap and very easy to install.
@tgaming1893
@tgaming1893 3 ай бұрын
i don't mind the cool basements great in the summer, sucks in the winter :D
@Jaker788
@Jaker788 2 ай бұрын
Careful with sealing joist bays off, you can create a vapor barrier sandwich for moisture to get trapped and condense on the cold side. Better safe option is sealing penetrations for plumbing and any other stuff to stop air leakage, then make sure the batt insulation is good.
@joec632
@joec632 Жыл бұрын
yeah.........this looks wrong based on all the other videos i've seen Good luck with moisture.
@danielhussey3631
@danielhussey3631 Жыл бұрын
Given all that effort probably better off just spray foaming the whole thing
@jimhendrix7776
@jimhendrix7776 Жыл бұрын
Here in 🇨🇦, you just need to pony up and get the job done right, spray foam!!! Specifically, closed cell spray foam... completely seals everything, waterproof so it's a vapor barrier, adds structural rigidity and is an r7 per inch!!! It's biggest asset being how well it blocks air leakage!! If interested, check a dude named spray Jones from Saskatchewan canada, ge has a wicked pages with a stupid amount of information!! Hours upon hours of information comparing myths with facts back by data from educated sources along with his experience! Super amazing, even goes to say r values should be shot out the window when it comes to closed cell spray foam as your not getting a return after a certain amount of inches(here in canada were an r21 in walls)... that being 2inch at something like 86% efficiency while 3inches will only give you 88% and 4 90%!! Just does make sense to pay more for a few percent... dudes very, and I mean very educated on thus subject, probably one of the best in the industry from what I've seen!!! If not the best, no ones pulling the wool over this dudes eyes, that's for use!!
@sjpropertyservices3987
@sjpropertyservices3987 Жыл бұрын
I use a similar method to air seal and insulate rim joists here in Maine. However, I prefer mineral/rock wool over fiberglass. It has a higher R value per inch, is denser so it is easier to cut and stays in place better than fiberglass, it is hydrophobic, and it is non combustible so it does not have to be covered in a finished basement.
@jimhendrix7776
@jimhendrix7776 Жыл бұрын
Here in 🇨🇦, you just need to pony up and get the job done right, spray foam!!! Specifically, closed cell spray foam... completely seals everything, waterproof so it's a vapor barrier, adds structural rigidity and is an r7 per inch!!! It's biggest asset being how well it blocks air leakage!! If interested, check a dude named spray Jones from Saskatchewan canada, ge has a wicked pages with a stupid amount of information!! Hours upon hours of information comparing myths with facts back by data from educated sources along with his experience! Super amazing, even goes to say r values should be shot out the window when it comes to closed cell spray foam as your not getting a return after a certain amount of inches(here in canada were an r21 in walls)... that being 2inch at something like 86% efficiency while 3inches will only give you 88% and 4 90%!! Just does make sense to pay more for a few percent... dudes very, and I mean very educated on thus subject, probably one of the best in the industry from what I've seen!!! If not the best, no ones pulling the wool over this dudes eyes, that's for use!!
@sjpropertyservices3987
@sjpropertyservices3987 Жыл бұрын
@@jimhendrix7776 Closed cell spray foam is my first choice and it is what I recommend to clients. However, the flash & batt approach can be less expensive so many clients choose this method. When you use closed cell spray foam how many inches do you use and do you add some batt insulation to get desired R value? Thanks
@sjpropertyservices3987
@sjpropertyservices3987 Жыл бұрын
@@jimhendrix7776 I follow Spray Jones and agree regarding his videos. I also agree regarding the short comings of relying on R value alone in deciding on what to use for insulation, and how much to use.
@jimhendrix7776
@jimhendrix7776 Жыл бұрын
@@sjpropertyservices3987 sad reality is though, when code dictates r21 and you're retrofitting a reno, you have to fill that whole cavity 😆
@jimhendrix7776
@jimhendrix7776 Жыл бұрын
@@sjpropertyservices3987 I use full foam 😆!!!
@jrosalia
@jrosalia Жыл бұрын
what about the end joists that run perpendicular to these?
@JK-hd2zb
@JK-hd2zb Жыл бұрын
No one seems to like to talk about that
@ranger178
@ranger178 11 ай бұрын
you mean the long strait joist at edge of house? you would just put long pieces of foam board on that and seal at top and bottom
@budrho123
@budrho123 Жыл бұрын
My basement has no sill plate (probably 100 years old. All the wood sits directly on the blocks. Three sides are below grade and one above grade. How do I insulate that?
@jwb0323
@jwb0323 Жыл бұрын
What do you do in places where there are obstructions, such as water pipes?
@patty109109
@patty109109 9 ай бұрын
You’ll have to cut multiple pieces and then fill in with the great stuff foam.
@mikerose6600
@mikerose6600 Жыл бұрын
I have a brick exterior, should I still install/seal insulation board in my rim joist?
@BobPritchard
@BobPritchard Жыл бұрын
Umm, you have kraft faced fiberglass insulation against the interior wall. In this case the vapor barrier(kraft paper) is as it should be; facing the heat source. But when you add foam based insulation to the outside of the insulation, you're probably adding another vapor barrier. This is known as a vapor barrier sandwich and any moisture that gets in the wall can't easily get out, leading to declining performance of the fiberglass and mold/mildew problems. Not all foamboard is a vapor barrier, in particular in thinner sheets. Polyiso is a vapor retarder in most typical selections. But 2" of XPS is a vapor barrier by contrast. I'd suggest you check the ratings of your foamboard which is usually printed on the board. If your thickness/foam type is a vapor retarder, you might be OK. If it's a vapor barrier you'll have wall problems, all the more so since you thoroughly foamed the seams. The foil placing towards the interior wall further prevents moisture transmission. One other issue is leaving foamboard exposed. That's against all US building codes as it will aggressively burn with toxic fumes. This will shorten the time you and your family have to escape. You might think I'll take the chance, but if your house burns the insurance company could deny payment because you violated building code. And if people are hurt there are other problems with law enforcement. And this video is further proof! In this scenario I have had good luck using rockwool comfortboard as a secondary layer. It's essentially fireproof, allows moisture movement and is a great sound barrier. Good luck.
@jordancavins4267
@jordancavins4267 Жыл бұрын
If I have kraft faced fiber glass against my interior wall. What do you recommend to stop air from passing through it if not foam board? This for a bonus room/knee wall.
@BobPritchard
@BobPritchard Жыл бұрын
@@jordancavins4267 I have a knee wall in a house in northern NH. Very cold! I use an infrared thermometer (cheap ~ $20) to look for cold spots. I found very cold areas at the bottom of the wall. So... from the non conditioned side of the wall, I sprayed foam along the floor plate and that made the bottom of the wall significantly warmer by stoppign the cold air penetrating along the base of the wall. Then when I was looking for a project :), I decided to put another layer of insulation. I used Roxul Comfortboard in this case. It doesn't air seal greatly like foam but you don't have moisture issues in the wall if you already have the vapor barrier in place. This made the wall warmer still and at this point I was satisfied.
@WayneStratton
@WayneStratton Жыл бұрын
@@BobPritchard Amazing info here. I have two large knee wall areas. It has a plywood floor but I would like to seal everything up not only for energy purposes, but to keep out bugs as I want to store some nice items in there. Would you still recommend a foamboard and then comfortboard? I was just going to add better insulation and then hang OSB plywood in there and seal the gaps but might be overkill?
@BobPritchard
@BobPritchard Жыл бұрын
​@@WayneStrattonWayne if you have an existing knee wall with insulation already you might consider sealing the edges with a foam can and if you want more insulation you could use Comfortboard as one additional layer. It's vapor open and won't impact any vapor barrier in place. It also adds soundproofing. Unless it's going to be a finished room I don't think you need to finish off the surface with plywood or sheetrock.
@RandomNumber141
@RandomNumber141 9 ай бұрын
Bob, Your point about a “vapor barrier sandwich” only applies to non-insulating vapor barriers. If plastic sheeting was applied over the batts, there’d be a risk of condensation on the interior side. But, thick enough rigid foam will keep the interior face warm enough that water will not condense. Any moisture in the wall cavity will remain as vapor. Polyiso usually has a foil face which acts as a complete vapor barrier. 2” of XPS will also effectively become a vapor barrier.
@sepertude
@sepertude Жыл бұрын
You need to use 4" foam boards or 2 time 2", home depot has 2" foam that is R13 so 4" gives R26, code is I think R30. Cut foam 3/4 less than rim joists size and attach transparent flexible plastic tube to foam gun so you can easly access everywhere... When you have 3/4 space you make 5/8 from each side so foam can go all the way towarst wood, this way you dont let air movements in front of the foam and also you dont need caulk.
@pampierce
@pampierce Жыл бұрын
Mineral wool would have been a lot better on top of the foam. It is more fireproof, more inert, and especially a lot better for you in a fire since it will protect the foam from fire better than fiberglass. Highly recommend redoing the video to add mineral wool in addition to what you have already.
@JohnDoe-lg8sq
@JohnDoe-lg8sq Жыл бұрын
Also, mineral wool is also better than fiberglass if you basement is damp. Also it tend to be a bit more rigid making it easier to work with.
@jimhendrix7776
@jimhendrix7776 Жыл бұрын
Roxalls just better all round lol!! Higher performance, more environtal, no moisture issues, stiffer, MORE of an air barrier(for what fiber insulations re worth lol), and one of the biggest in my opinion, that shit snuffs out fires 🔥 if on unfortunately happens!! That's its BIGGEST asset right there!!! $ !-! ][ + DONT BURN!!!
@ranger178
@ranger178 11 ай бұрын
but if you put ROXUL on inside of house against foamboard warm moist air will go through ROXUL and condense on foamboard making ROXUL wet. the fibers are waterproof, but the empty air space can fill with water. mineral wool is not a vapor barrier it repels water sprayed on it but can get condensation in it.
@generector8583
@generector8583 Жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to know the temperature outside and inside before the foam and the temperature outside and inside after the foam. Nice job.
@RogueSecret
@RogueSecret Жыл бұрын
When using spray foam your supposed to spray a little water on the surface your foaming, then one time over the foam again. Almost noone knows or does this. And also make sure the wood have no way to get wet from the outside, since now it will loose its ability to dry on its own.
@ranger178
@ranger178 11 ай бұрын
the cans of sprayfoam are not closed cell foam air does get through slightly it is mostly air tight at the surface
@tcg2ki
@tcg2ki Жыл бұрын
i thought spray foam was hazardeous?
@MrSteeDoo
@MrSteeDoo Жыл бұрын
Don't eat it. Tastes like shit.
@karlakay
@karlakay Ай бұрын
It is! Especially when it burns & melts. Apparently there's a fire resistant spray foam There are still paint on sealers for moisture barriers for ends