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@ahomestucker
@ahomestucker 2 күн бұрын
you didnt do the "But what if..." dialogue...
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin Күн бұрын
Whoops, my bad! It just goes directly to the same "Stardust, I don't want you to!!!" line at 03:01, which is probably why I missed it during editing
@ahomestucker
@ahomestucker Күн бұрын
​@@EldritchGriffin ah ok, thank you!
@Ember_Trans_Cat
@Ember_Trans_Cat 3 күн бұрын
[wow stardust, how in the world did you fucking lose to me? i got to like, level 56, the universe only knows how much you've been grinding~! teehee~!]
@SHADE_20
@SHADE_20 4 күн бұрын
Still as tear indusing as before. BUT YO LOOP LOOKED LIKE MAL DU PAYS AND I LOVE IT. 0:30
@viviblue7277
@viviblue7277 6 күн бұрын
They really give you a gut punch for losing an easy fight against the secret boss. Even comically underleveled the fight isn’t that hard as long as you’ve learned the combat system. Probably why I had such a hard time finding this video.
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 5 күн бұрын
It's actually even harder to lose than you think, because you can't be under-leveled. Upon beginning Act 5, your level is set to max. On top of that, you can't switch the memory you have equipped, and the one you have in Act 6 regenerates you every turn. It took multiple tries before I was able to lose the fight
@viviblue7277
@viviblue7277 5 күн бұрын
@@EldritchGriffin I remember my act 6 level being set back to my act 4 level? I definitely noticed not having Rock Bottom in Act 6 and this fight because Siffrin never reached level 80 and thus never unlocked it, only learning the skill existed afterwards when looking things up. I do remember being stuck on the regen memory for this fight as I did try and change it before entering. Mildly annoying how act 5 and 6 have set memories which are far from the most useful ones, but I get why narratively they didn’t want you to just equip enemies run away in act 5. If it’s somehow possible to reach this fight without reaching level 52 I think you would lose, but I’m pretty sure there are way too many mandatory fights for you to avoid leveling up to at least 52 since you have to fight every boss a couple times. Definitely would make the fight less of a pushover if you arrived at the minimum level though.
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 5 күн бұрын
@@viviblue7277 Upon further research, it looks like Act 5 sets you to level 99, and Act 6 brings you back to your previous level. Weird!
@ZappoNinja
@ZappoNinja 4 күн бұрын
@@EldritchGriffinIt’s so they didn’t need to balance Act 5 in case you speedran there. Would be annoying to kill a bunch of Sadnesses if you were only level 53 or so
@Morzone15
@Morzone15 6 күн бұрын
Apparentlty I missed a lot of ways to mentally destroy siffrin/myself when I played through ISAT. I'm not sure if I should feel glad I avoided it or sad I missed parts of the gameplay.
@AidenTAKwaCN
@AidenTAKwaCN 7 күн бұрын
its funny, with the image of siffrin holding loops head post-battle, winning gives you the mental image of siffrin reaching down, with loop on the ground, but losing gives the opposite, of siffrin reaching up, holding loop up.
@SkylerDemness
@SkylerDemness 6 күн бұрын
Wowww you got a point!
@tweets009
@tweets009 7 күн бұрын
thank you for this video ive been trying to find the dialogues for this too but could never find them anywhere
@remxedmoon
@remxedmoon 7 күн бұрын
ahhh thank you so much for documenting all this stuff, these videos have been an absolute lifesaver!!
@Romanticoutlaw
@Romanticoutlaw 7 күн бұрын
I did it exactly twice and decided "yeah I'm good." So thank you for this
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 8 күн бұрын
Anything I missed in the video will be in the replies to this pinned comment!
@toast_2375
@toast_2375 Күн бұрын
hey uh i heard about a scene where you can look out the balcony/window of the house of change and see the northern island
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 17 сағат бұрын
@@toast_2375 It's at 0:03:40! It does have different dialogue in the other Acts though
@shadowfire04
@shadowfire04 9 күн бұрын
1:38:55 there's unique dialogue for some of the souvenirs if you use them in the room with your family. odile also says something unique if you try to go too far past her. also i think the menu changes as well to reflect that your family is back with you? you did get the menu stuff, but you missed the super unique Tired Dialogue siffrin gives about the souvenirs in that specific room only.
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 5 күн бұрын
I didn't even think to look at the souvenirs there; I'll have to go back for that. Thanks for letting me know!
@DE23
@DE23 9 күн бұрын
I got the dagger but *BOY* I did not have the guts to use it
@overheavendio5665
@overheavendio5665 9 күн бұрын
ngl loop seems like a good guy (havent played the game tho so idk)
@SkylerDemness
@SkylerDemness 6 күн бұрын
You really should give it a try, it's so good.
@euodeioabacate
@euodeioabacate 10 күн бұрын
THIS GAME IS SO UNDERATED I LOVED EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF THIS GAME
@yuukiiiiilover
@yuukiiiiilover 9 күн бұрын
you’ve got omori as your pfp so i can tell your opinion is a wise one
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 8 күн бұрын
Isat + Omori... *Points* mental illness! /j
@yuukiiiiilover
@yuukiiiiilover 8 күн бұрын
@@EldritchGriffin AND GAYY!!! don’t forget the gay
@roninnozlo9544
@roninnozlo9544 10 күн бұрын
1:06:09 Burnt sugar, just like when Frin loops back in time! What the fuck is wrong with you, Frin? Why are you doing this to us?
@catticus6637
@catticus6637 10 күн бұрын
you're seriously a lifesaver for this video lol
@Lexithepoptart
@Lexithepoptart 11 күн бұрын
This is the thing that has fucked with me the most since playing. It’s so well done. It’s absolutely horrible.
@shadowfire04
@shadowfire04 11 күн бұрын
1:03:15 siffrin in the observatory 1:04:20 siffrin in the wish room with the orrery 1:10:17 bathroom monologue (saving these for my personal reference later since i love these bits)
@CipherDragon
@CipherDragon 12 күн бұрын
“not a fan of flowers huh” HELLPPPPPP
@ashlight6107
@ashlight6107 12 күн бұрын
The fact you get multiple warning signs before you even get the choice to use the Dagger probably makes not doing it a good idea! Loop is just looking out for ya.
@The1andonlyIvory
@The1andonlyIvory 13 күн бұрын
Loop Zoop
@rixareth
@rixareth 10 күн бұрын
I absolutely lost it laughing when I finished watching this harrowing video and scrolled down to find the comment 'Loop Zoop'. Thank you for that.
@remxedmoon
@remxedmoon 13 күн бұрын
ahhhh thank you so much for making this!!! this act is my absolute favorite in the game and i’ve been unable to find ANYTHING showcasing all of the stuff in it (and i can’t replay the game unfortunately… augh). genuinely this is a huge lifesaver thankyou!!!!!!
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 11 күн бұрын
Glad I could help!
@Savajj_nahold
@Savajj_nahold 13 күн бұрын
Man that guy with a weird star shaped-head looks hot as fuck
@kauedasilva1072
@kauedasilva1072 14 күн бұрын
What will happen if you try to attack them?
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 11 күн бұрын
There's no significant difference, as Mirabelle heals both you and them, I just don't like attacking them. Though maybe I should have so I could show it
@darkpink8084
@darkpink8084 14 күн бұрын
SPOILERS: If you keep the flower throught the final bossfight, you get to keep the flower. it has some neat dialouge!
@syffdvst
@syffdvst 14 күн бұрын
will you do other acts too? really like this
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 11 күн бұрын
If there's enough interest, I can definitely do the rest!
@catticus6637
@catticus6637 10 күн бұрын
@@EldritchGriffin i'd be interested!!
@SporianSummit
@SporianSummit 14 күн бұрын
this is truly a shadow the hedgehog moment
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 11 күн бұрын
I'm not sure how this is a Shadow the Hedgehog moment, but I can respect it
@SporianSummit
@SporianSummit 11 күн бұрын
@@EldritchGriffin cuz he possibly wants to commit die in the sonic fandom due to some of the horrid monstrosities they made of him
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 15 күн бұрын
Anything I missed in the video will be in the replies to this pinned comment!
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 15 күн бұрын
While looking at the footage, I realized that I forgot to talk to the shopkeeper. Their dialogue is: "Ahoy, tra--" (No point talking to them.) (You're only in here to talk to Odile, anyway.) (You walk away.) "Oh, um, okay! May the Change God protect you!" Odile: "..." Any further attempts to talk with them will just give the line "May the Change God protect you!"
@AguaSentry196
@AguaSentry196 14 күн бұрын
You actually also forgot to interact with the mirror picture, it shows you, and only you.
@AdamX222
@AdamX222 12 күн бұрын
​@@AguaSentry196They show it at 1:13:12 , with the rest of the Souvenirs.
@catticus6637
@catticus6637 10 күн бұрын
what happens if you try going to the clocktower before finishing the helpquests? ik thats kinda specific but i was curious if there was special dialogue lol
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 10 күн бұрын
@@catticus6637 (Not right now.) (You have to make everyone stronger.)
@calicokity1
@calicokity1 15 күн бұрын
I'm not going to get into spoilers in a comment section but so many of Loop's responses have major implications related to Two Hats
@FUNN1MAN18
@FUNN1MAN18 15 күн бұрын
Man, and here I thought that the game couldn't get any darker
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 16 күн бұрын
Turns out I missed extra Loop dialogue if you ask them about the ghosts again! I've transcribed it below: [Enter dialogue] “I’ve been seeing myself in the House.” L: “...” L: “I shouldn’t have said that, earlier.” S: (Huh…?) “What?” L: “That the ghost… Or remnant of you, or whatever…” L: “That it probably gave them a disgusting smile.” S: (Oh.) S: “It’s fine.” S: (It’s probably true, anyway.) L: “...” L: “You really love them all, don’t you? Even now?” L: “Enough for a reflection of you to react like this.” S: (Enough to make you want to cry.) L: “...” [End dialogue] The "I've been seeing myself in the House" question is no longer available after this.
@rich_gamer0667
@rich_gamer0667 17 күн бұрын
Never even encountered the option... I always refused to loop back with the tears except when i get stuck
@gregorydery
@gregorydery 20 күн бұрын
Is there any special response if you tried to use the dagger in Act 6?
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 15 күн бұрын
I went back to play through Acts 5 and 6, and the dagger gets removed from your items pocket for Act 6. Act 5, however, has the line "Don't think about it." if you try to use the dagger on yourself (or anyone else). So, no dagger looping past Act 4 (Although, I did discover there's a slight change in the dialogue during the secret ending scene if you chose to use the dagger)
@lehungrybulborb
@lehungrybulborb 20 күн бұрын
I love how for every single time that Loop says to have a wonderful loop at the end of all the kept-dagger dialog from the question, it sounds forced and behind gritted teeth, with 'wonderful' in all caps, while the same line for losing the ability to loop back with the dagger sounds way more genuine and sincere
@sick_trix
@sick_trix 20 күн бұрын
Loop’s dead eye sprite when you first acquire the dagger gave me genuine chills
@crowsenpai5625
@crowsenpai5625 12 күн бұрын
The only other instance you see the sprite during the talk with the Change God is even more chilling.
@kingstonlovely7404
@kingstonlovely7404 3 күн бұрын
​@@crowsenpai5625 especially when knowing that change god is a 2005 4chan user
@crowsenpai5625
@crowsenpai5625 3 күн бұрын
@@kingstonlovely7404 (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
@Bd-qs5bn
@Bd-qs5bn 21 күн бұрын
2:08 loop that was 10 seconds ago
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 21 күн бұрын
10:30 This video confirms many reads I had. Good that I noticed 10:41 This is from someone who calls someone as distinct as Isabeau "The Fighter".
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 21 күн бұрын
Out of curiosity, have you seen the Act 6 secret scene? If not, I think you'll find it very interesting... (though I won't say exactly why because ~spoilers~)
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 21 күн бұрын
@@EldritchGriffin Oh of course I have. I was just trying to give a hint of the irony without spoiling it. As you know, Isabeau is The Defender as the menu tells us. Spoilers!!!: But he WAS called the Fighter in SASASA:ap, which is where Loop came from. But I could not say so without spoiling all of Act 6 ^^. They speak from experience.
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 22 күн бұрын
I love how there's a solid 8 seconds sitting on the line "A flower?" at 03:17 from me being so stunned that I was actually able to give it to her
@KitKat-sv9qp
@KitKat-sv9qp 23 күн бұрын
The way this is treated with such a weight. Siffrin is literally dehumanizing their body for the sake of efficiency and i love how it's conveyed. the more you do it, the less the action, or rather your own body matter to you (Read how it went from "You killed yourself" to "You saved yourself some time", completely disregarding how much this SHOULD mean) Loop is right, this is a slippery slope, because once you get over the shock of it, it's like you lose a part of yourself that was sacred Great writing, srsly
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 22 күн бұрын
This exactly. It's so much more serious than most other deaths, and understandably so
@kauedasilva1072
@kauedasilva1072 21 күн бұрын
I actually remember rejecting the option the first time the game offered it and after seeing this… I made the right choice.
@KitKat-sv9qp
@KitKat-sv9qp 20 күн бұрын
​@@kauedasilva1072 No, I completely understand you. In games, I usually treat death pretty lightly, so I remembered thinking the very gruesome notion of "I wonder if Sif can just off themselves on runs they think are hopeless. That can speed things up, right?" Having the game itself place so much weight on it gave me an "Oh god what AM I thinking?" when it came to making such a decision. No game has ever gave me such a pause. It's super effective in placing you in Sif's shoes, even giving you a moment of clarity in which you've gone through so many loops something you can consider "An easy way out" is seen as absolutely demented to an outsider. It's a good way to show the inherent horror of looping so much.
@Paper_Jam200
@Paper_Jam200 23 күн бұрын
Is it possible to give the flower to Isabeau after beating the king?
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 22 күн бұрын
Nope. On the run when I gave it to the Head Housemaiden, I checked that I couldn't give it to anyone else first, and I don't think you can get the flower during act 5
@KanDoMusic
@KanDoMusic 21 күн бұрын
@@EldritchGriffin you can get the flower in act 5! i don't think you cant give it to anyone, but it does mean you get to keep the flower in act 6 as a fun souvenir to look at
@JF-um3wz
@JF-um3wz 23 күн бұрын
Sifrin is truly a character study because he’d literally rather off himself in front of his allies than have an actual conversation with them about his troubles.
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 22 күн бұрын
So true
@Cu-Copper
@Cu-Copper 18 күн бұрын
Relatable
@JF-um3wz
@JF-um3wz 18 күн бұрын
@@Cu-Copper DUDE THAT SHOULDNT BE RELATEABLE NOOOOO
@GL-hh1pv
@GL-hh1pv 14 күн бұрын
​@@Cu-CopperDude u ok? Need to talk?
@Cu-Copper
@Cu-Copper 14 күн бұрын
@@GL-hh1pv nah last time I did that I got locked up in an asylum
@-Commit-arson-
@-Commit-arson- 24 күн бұрын
Man I know it doesn’t matter ultimately because they forget But sif could’ve absolutely given a lame excuse and flee into a different room or told them to turn around or something Damn…
@ForestsAndSunsets
@ForestsAndSunsets 2 күн бұрын
It’s a great parallel with the time with the first tear, when you choose to touch it. On that one, you DO give a lame excuse to have them not watch. It is a little different though, cuz the whole point of the dagger is to save time. If you have to make an excuse and walk away every time, then you might as well just find a different way to die. They typically are just a room away anyway.
@DoctorTex
@DoctorTex 25 күн бұрын
If you refuse the dagger option the first time, will you be able to get it again later?
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 22 күн бұрын
Nope, you only get the one chance. I believe you also only get one chance to return it
@memoryreturns
@memoryreturns 25 күн бұрын
im really sorry siffrin but daddy needs his qol features 😞
@bongo_girl7343
@bongo_girl7343 25 күн бұрын
I should’ve kept trying with Loop! I didn’t persist after they said no the first time :(
@EldritchGriffin
@EldritchGriffin 22 күн бұрын
I didn't either until I was making this. I went back to offer it to them again so I could record it and realized the dialogue was different. I had to start a new run to get the first line lol
@Soviniy
@Soviniy 26 күн бұрын
The sheer depth of my pity for poor Loop. Having to watch someone you care about (even unwillingly) do this to themselves, knowing exactly where it leads but being unable to fight it.
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 21 күн бұрын
The perils of wishing for help. The help goes wherever Sif wants, not Loop's. Ouch
@TheMaskedOnes-42
@TheMaskedOnes-42 26 күн бұрын
IDK WHY BUT THE WAY THAT SIFFRIN IS JUST LIKE "Not a fan of flowers, huh" GETS ME
@02miguener99s
@02miguener99s 26 күн бұрын
I'm glad someone compiled this because I don't have the guts to do it myself! Although I think I've heard someone say that something also happens if you try using the dagger on a family member again and again, but I don't quite remember, just leaving this here in case someone knows something
@pinkcicle5247
@pinkcicle5247 24 күн бұрын
If you use the dagger on your family members over and over, siffrin belittles himself saying "no you wont ever hurt them!" and ends with "haha! the intrusive thoughts are getting in the way of your suicide!" I believe..
@corvidaeae
@corvidaeae 23 күн бұрын
(No.) (This isn't something to use on family members.) (Why would you do this?) (No.) (No!) (Stop thinking about it!) (You will never do it!) (NEVER!) <--at this point Siffrin stabs himself and loops. no special waking up dialogue. (Teehee, the intrusive thoughts are getting in the way of your suicide.) <--all subsequent attempts at using the dagger on the rest of the party
@pinkcicle5247
@pinkcicle5247 23 күн бұрын
@@corvidaeae Yes ty!
@02miguener99s
@02miguener99s 23 күн бұрын
@@corvidaeae oh wow that's really cool! (IN A BAD WAY!)
@02miguener99s
@02miguener99s 23 күн бұрын
@@pinkcicle5247God that's awful, honestly kind of respect the inclusion of this mechanic to this game, it would be easy to not touch the topic at hand directly (being self harm and suicidal thoughts) but it feels so "right" as a natural development of the events of the game, it just also really gels well in a timeloop plot as the usual "can of worms" that can be found in that kind of stories
@poyopowerplant
@poyopowerplant 26 күн бұрын
"Not a fan of flowers, huh?" is just about the chillest way to approach the Head Housemaiden reacting to the end of the world