All Dagger Scenes (Including Loop Dialogue)

All Dagger Scenes (Including Loop Dialogue) - In Stars and Time

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@02miguener99s 3 ай бұрын

I'm glad someone compiled this because I don't have the guts to do it myself! Although I think I've heard someone say that something also happens if you try using the dagger on a family member again and again, but I don't quite remember, just leaving this here in case someone knows something

@pinkcicle5247 3 ай бұрын

If you use the dagger on your family members over and over, siffrin belittles himself saying "no you wont ever hurt them!" and ends with "haha! the intrusive thoughts are getting in the way of your suicide!" I believe..

@corvidaeae 3 ай бұрын

(No.) (This isn't something to use on family members.) (Why would you do this?) (No.) (No!) (Stop thinking about it!) (You will never do it!) (NEVER!)

@pinkcicle5247 3 ай бұрын

@@corvidaeae Yes ty!

@02miguener99s 3 ай бұрын

@@corvidaeae oh wow that's really cool! (IN A BAD WAY!)

@02miguener99s 3 ай бұрын

@@pinkcicle5247God that's awful, honestly kind of respect the inclusion of this mechanic to this game, it would be easy to not touch the topic at hand directly (being self harm and suicidal thoughts) but it feels so "right" as a natural development of the events of the game, it just also really gels well in a timeloop plot as the usual "can of worms" that can be found in that kind of stories

@JF-um3wz 3 ай бұрын

Sifrin is truly a character study because he’d literally rather off himself in front of his allies than have an actual conversation with them about his troubles.

@EldritchGriffin 3 ай бұрын

So true

@Cu-Copper 2 ай бұрын

Relatable

@JF-um3wz 2 ай бұрын

@@Cu-Copper DUDE THAT SHOULDNT BE RELATEABLE NOOOOO

@GL-hh1pv 2 ай бұрын

@@Cu-CopperDude u ok? Need to talk?

@Cu-Copper 2 ай бұрын

@@GL-hh1pv nah last time I did that I got locked up in an asylum

@KitKat-sv9qp 3 ай бұрын

The way this is treated with such a weight. Siffrin is literally dehumanizing their body for the sake of efficiency and i love how it's conveyed. the more you do it, the less the action, or rather your own body matter to you (Read how it went from "You killed yourself" to "You saved yourself some time", completely disregarding how much this SHOULD mean) Loop is right, this is a slippery slope, because once you get over the shock of it, it's like you lose a part of yourself that was sacred Great writing, srsly

@EldritchGriffin 3 ай бұрын

This exactly. It's so much more serious than most other deaths, and understandably so

@kauedasilva1072 3 ай бұрын

I actually remember rejecting the option the first time the game offered it and after seeing this… I made the right choice.

@KitKat-sv9qp 3 ай бұрын

@@kauedasilva1072 No, I completely understand you. In games, I usually treat death pretty lightly, so I remembered thinking the very gruesome notion of "I wonder if Sif can just off themselves on runs they think are hopeless. That can speed things up, right?" Having the game itself place so much weight on it gave me an "Oh god what AM I thinking?" when it came to making such a decision. No game has ever gave me such a pause. It's super effective in placing you in Sif's shoes, even giving you a moment of clarity in which you've gone through so many loops something you can consider "An easy way out" is seen as absolutely demented to an outsider. It's a good way to show the inherent horror of looping so much.

@All54321 2 ай бұрын

Yeah… at first it has a whole “oh sheesh, this is horrible” vibe, but after enough times it just becomes “well, this is the quickest way to loop, so!” Really not a fun train of thought to go down, poor Siffrin :(

@UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt Ай бұрын

I used the dagger exactly once, and the reactions of the party made me quit right then and there lol.

@sick_trix 3 ай бұрын

Loop’s dead eye sprite when you first acquire the dagger gave me genuine chills

@crowsenpai5625 2 ай бұрын

The only other instance you see the sprite during the talk with the Change God is even more chilling.

@kingstonlovely7404 2 ай бұрын

@@crowsenpai5625 especially when knowing that change god is a 2005 4chan user

@crowsenpai5625 2 ай бұрын

@@kingstonlovely7404 (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

@Soviniy 3 ай бұрын

The sheer depth of my pity for poor Loop. Having to watch someone you care about (even unwillingly) do this to themselves, knowing exactly where it leads but being unable to fight it.

@gabrote42 3 ай бұрын

The perils of wishing for help. The help goes wherever Sif wants, not Loop's. Ouch

@antjones4017 Ай бұрын

something more terrifying spoilers watching yourself go through the same situations you did, sanity on a decline, slowly resorting to worse and worse means

@-Commit-arson- 3 ай бұрын

Man I know it doesn’t matter ultimately because they forget But sif could’ve absolutely given a lame excuse and flee into a different room or told them to turn around or something Damn…

@ForestsAndSunsets 2 ай бұрын

It’s a great parallel with the time with the first tear, when you choose to touch it. On that one, you DO give a lame excuse to have them not watch. It is a little different though, cuz the whole point of the dagger is to save time. If you have to make an excuse and walk away every time, then you might as well just find a different way to die. They typically are just a room away anyway.

@Totallysleepingrn 2 ай бұрын

Ngl I think that would’ve been worse “Hey what’s that behind you guys?” Then they turn around and when they look back Siffrins fucking dead Especially sense the dagger isn’t IMMEDIATE death they could’ve had time to turn back around and see Siffrin dead bleeding out on the floor

@chaostoad 3 ай бұрын

I love how for every single time that Loop says to have a wonderful loop at the end of all the kept-dagger dialog from the question, it sounds forced and behind gritted teeth, with 'wonderful' in all caps, while the same line for losing the ability to loop back with the dagger sounds way more genuine and sincere

@twilightvulpine Ай бұрын

Also their text beeping doesn't sound like it usually does, like they are dropping the cheerful showy façade.

@AguaSentry196 3 ай бұрын

This is actually really cool! I didnt get the dagger on my playthrough, but seeing isabeau actually notice the first time you use it is kind of scary tbh.

@calicokity1 2 ай бұрын

I'm not going to get into spoilers in a comment section but so many of Loop's responses have major implications related to Two Hats

@clawcakes2 2 ай бұрын

i felt _so bad_ pushing loop to let me use the dagger. LOOP I'M SO SORRY IF THERE WEREN'T TWO WHOLE ACHIEVEMENTS CONNECTED TO THIS I WOULDN'T DO IT

@qwerty3793 Ай бұрын

There is also a slight dialogue variation if you return the dagger without ever killing yourself with it...Loop brings it up and mentions that they are glad you decided not to use it after all. Source: my playthrough. I felt too bad for Loop and my party members to go through with it for the achievement.

@MoroFuoro 3 ай бұрын

Interesting dialogue, I fortunately didn’t see because I was on the same page as Loop.

@ithinkflutterawesome6511 2 ай бұрын

I didn’t see anyone at all talking about this, it truly hit me out of nowhere. I actually had to put the game down for a couple of days, seeing Siffrin struggle like that and Loops utter disgust and disappointment in me for letting that happen to them was so devastating. I’m so happy they got a happy ending but I regret having let the intrusive thoughts win.

@ashlight6107 2 ай бұрын

The fact you get multiple warning signs before you even get the choice to use the Dagger probably makes not doing it a good idea! Loop is just looking out for ya.

@gabrote42 3 ай бұрын

10:30 This video confirms many reads I had. Good that I noticed 10:41 This is from someone who calls someone as distinct as Isabeau "The Fighter".

@EldritchGriffin 3 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, have you seen the Act 6 secret scene? If not, I think you'll find it very interesting... (though I won't say exactly why because ~spoilers~)

@gabrote42 3 ай бұрын

@@EldritchGriffin Oh of course I have. I was just trying to give a hint of the irony without spoiling it. As you know, Isabeau is The Defender as the menu tells us. Spoilers!!!: But he WAS called the Fighter in SASASA:ap, which is where Loop came from. But I could not say so without spoiling all of Act 6 ^^. They speak from experience.

@Lexithepoptart 2 ай бұрын

This is the thing that has fucked with me the most since playing. It’s so well done. It’s absolutely horrible.

@Morzone15 2 ай бұрын

Apparentlty I missed a lot of ways to mentally destroy siffrin/myself when I played through ISAT. I'm not sure if I should feel glad I avoided it or sad I missed parts of the gameplay.

@Romanticoutlaw 2 ай бұрын

I did it exactly twice and decided "yeah I'm good." So thank you for this

@PoyoPowerPlant 3 ай бұрын

Spooky! Good thing I stuck with tear looping!

@FUNN1MAN18 2 ай бұрын

Man, and here I thought that the game couldn't get any darker

@SporianSummit 2 ай бұрын

this is truly a shadow the hedgehog moment

@EldritchGriffin 2 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how this is a Shadow the Hedgehog moment, but I can respect it

@SporianSummit 2 ай бұрын

@@EldritchGriffin cuz he possibly wants to commit die in the sonic fandom due to some of the horrid monstrosities they made of him

@rich_gamer0667 2 ай бұрын

Never even encountered the option... I always refused to loop back with the tears except when i get stuck

@DE23 2 ай бұрын

I got the dagger but *BOY* I did not have the guts to use it

@overheavendio5665 2 ай бұрын

ngl loop seems like a good guy (havent played the game tho so idk)

@SkylerDemness 2 ай бұрын

You really should give it a try, it's so good.

@tweets009 2 ай бұрын

thank you for this video ive been trying to find the dialogues for this too but could never find them anywhere

@blakefisher296 29 күн бұрын

Y’know, it isn’t all that inconvenient to use tears…

@candaru_driemor 12 күн бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THESE!!!

@Nariko2 Ай бұрын

I kinda wish after the screen turns black it waits a few seconds before Sif starts looping

@DoctorTex 3 ай бұрын

If you refuse the dagger option the first time, will you be able to get it again later?

@EldritchGriffin 3 ай бұрын

Nope, you only get the one chance. I believe you also only get one chance to return it

@J1407b_slugcat 6 күн бұрын

If I got the game, I’d use the dagger over and over again for fun

@Bd-qs5bn 3 ай бұрын

2:08 loop that was 10 seconds ago

@gregorydery 3 ай бұрын

Is there any special response if you tried to use the dagger in Act 6?

@EldritchGriffin 2 ай бұрын

I went back to play through Acts 5 and 6, and the dagger gets removed from your items pocket for Act 6. Act 5, however, has the line "Don't think about it." if you try to use the dagger on yourself (or anyone else). So, no dagger looping past Act 4 (Although, I did discover there's a slight change in the dialogue during the secret ending scene if you chose to use the dagger)

@The1andonlyIvory 2 ай бұрын

Loop Zoop

@rixareth 2 ай бұрын

I absolutely lost it laughing when I finished watching this harrowing video and scrolled down to find the comment 'Loop Zoop'. Thank you for that.

@Basically_A_Gremlin_Lol 7 күн бұрын

I didn’t watch so I don’t get spoiled (I’m playing blind and just got into act 4) but when does this option occur?

@EldritchGriffin 6 күн бұрын

After you've looped with tears at least 20 times, the dagger conversation can happen if you chat with Loop. I'm not sure if it can appear in Act 2, or only Act 3 on, but you should be fine if you're in Act 4

@Basically_A_Gremlin_Lol 6 күн бұрын

@@EldritchGriffin Thanks a ton!