SsbmGinger

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@smallman9787 16 күн бұрын

this information will lower my blood pressure substantially

@zjmullan 16 күн бұрын

what if your opponent is powershielding a lot? Couldn't faking a laser by landing before it comes out be decent if you're trying to punish a powershield attempt edit: in matchups like marth

@crazykid1325 20 күн бұрын

1:10 if you DI up throw forward you can still be regrabed, so its actually a 50/50 unless you’re cracked and can tell the difference between the two early enough to di them both correctly.

@SsbmGinger 20 күн бұрын

This is interesting to bring up, but if Marth wants to regrab the DI down and away off of up throw at 0% it's an exactly frame perfect input from the Marth. If he's a frame late you'd be able to shine and get a complete reversal. I think that the majority of the time Marth grabs you at 0% you should be very ready for the forward throw and then also practice the timing of jumping/shining out of up throw assuming they're not frame perfect. It might be "technically" a 50/50, but I think in practice it won't work out that way almost ever. Also, the throws are unreactable unfortunately so you won't be able to tell the difference between the two :/

@gazelbob5443 Ай бұрын

Bro i miss u

@waffleking6474 Ай бұрын

Godtier video

@AndrewRKenny Ай бұрын

Insane that nobody else (including you!) picked this idea up, ripe for a bountiful content harvest.

@joethemusickidrivera8502 Ай бұрын

Bro just has shepherds tone on stream ur fuckin annoying for that

@GreaterJan 2 ай бұрын

Great video but you should allow yourself to be off by +/-200

@empress_josie 2 ай бұрын

ginger getting up air'd several times without di'ing 🗿🗿🗿

@Emperorerror 2 ай бұрын

Old video but I really appreciate the examples of success AND failure (e.g. for punishing falcons Landing). Seeing both is useful

@stayontrack 2 ай бұрын

Ginger pls come back to competing

@YogurtGaming69 2 ай бұрын

Mr I quit Melee

@TheStrvggler 2 ай бұрын

I do this all the time and didn’t even realize that it is the reason why I always get shield pokes from it lol. I practically only short hop to do shine wavelands so that’s why. Great video

@spencertaylor7196 2 ай бұрын

you talk with a cadence similar to Internet Shaquille (cooking youtuber)! great vid :)

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

I’ll have to check them out!

@FirroLP 2 ай бұрын

Can't they just tilt down their shield to prevent this poke?

@Zega_ 2 ай бұрын

true! but mixups are always present. if they’re consistent in good shield angling then poke them somewhere else

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

They could! But there 3 important things to think about there: 1. If they’re angling their shield down you now make it incredibly difficult for them to shield drop 2. They’re now exposing the top of their head which could be full hop shine shield poked 3. There are post-shine mix ups that are good (especially if you’ve nullified their ability to shield drop) gl out there

@piocastellano8221 2 ай бұрын

Awesome video!

@latinobacon 2 ай бұрын

I’m never taking Ginger for granted ever again (going to binge the series) I’m noticing a lot of the same habits I have when I’m up against an opponent who has a game plan when I don’t. I tend to make games a lot closer than they need to be and get desperate.. I need to play to my characters strengths more instead of getting impatient

@gollumsk8 2 ай бұрын

love those specific situations video, thanks !

@latinobacon 2 ай бұрын

I get the shield poke bair a lot on yoshis but I never thought to shine, when you say its stage specific you mean with short hop I assume?

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

correct!

@Rintse 2 ай бұрын

One of the rare occasions where the size of falco's shine is a good thing. This game is just so intricate man...

@dmullen1994 2 ай бұрын

nice sweater where did u cop that

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

Pac Sun I think!

@CobDerman1 2 ай бұрын

Neat tech! Thanks for sharing

@Radarssbm 2 ай бұрын

Nice job, definitely gonna give this a try!

@inhalants 2 ай бұрын

Damn that sweater is sick. You got an affiliate link

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

Lmao I wish! I think I got it from pac sun though??

@LampGoron64 2 ай бұрын

cool vid

@Tagamemnon 2 ай бұрын

Dude I cannot WAIT to still be bad at the game after learning this 🤯

@divinitycove 2 ай бұрын

I love being knowledgeable but not being able to implement it 😍

@ErikSeastead 2 ай бұрын

Simply improve at one individual little thing about 100,000 times and then you'll accidentally notice you got good.

@cyclone6976 2 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to lab this out and then in a real match shoot my laser backwards and get caught in my dash

@CameronRM0 Ай бұрын

@@cyclone6976i do that all the time! I have a bad habit of moving forward while shooting lasers, so I don’t turn around the wrong way on accident. Problem being, I’m always approaching and can’t laser in place

@cmcd2388 Ай бұрын

@@divinitycove basically smash coaches

@Bones0 2 ай бұрын

I definitely thought I was going crazy with some of the utilt shield pokes I've whiffed on YS side plat while being directly under them... lol

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

dude same

@gomjabbar6246 2 ай бұрын

If your opponent already has shield out on a platform, isn't that a bad moment to aggress for fear of shield drop reversals?

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

My assumption is that you haven't watched the video LOL but I can summarize for you I guess: This would poke around someone's shield so you hit their hurtbox that is exposed and also remaining under them causes them to fall into your shine a lot of the time gl out there

@gomjabbar6246 2 ай бұрын

@@SsbmGinger yeah, I posted this a minute in, mb.

@jacobbaldini2887 2 ай бұрын

New Ging video? Yep, you know where I'm gon be❤

@morganlak4337 2 ай бұрын

This really isn't that hard for how good it is! Nice video, now I'm gonna try it out and hope that people don't angle their shield down

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

Even if they do, you can get some pretty interesting post-shine mix ups :) gl out there

@Degenerate_o7 2 ай бұрын

my fav thing on yoshis as falco is catching ppl with u-smash who think they are landing safely or mixing up falling through on the plat where it slants down. Usually can catch them with it after hitting those uptilts you had mentioned. Also, would love a vid exploring falco up air and or grabs. Been seeing Mang0 and Magi utilize them so well recently.

@DaRealPielover1987 2 ай бұрын

cool shirt

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

Hey guys! Get out there and try this shield poke set up! I've found tons of success with it I'm still not certain how character/spacing/z-axis dependent the up tilt poke set up is, but it was just an interesting thing I found while making the video that I wanted to bring up lol. I hope you guys like the video :)

@marianoescamilla1543 2 ай бұрын

insane video brother

@LaughinManX 2 ай бұрын

Imagine if you could release a video daily like this - Top 100 would be 50% falcos

@benjaminchaulk6269 2 ай бұрын

Hbox is the belal Muhammed of melee

@dugu9b 2 ай бұрын

what about no DI or slight DI's in between? They're just other analagous situations to DI in where you go fine aerial shine crossup/no crossup mixups into more platform followups?

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

Yes essentially! Any amount of DI out that puts them off stage should be followed up with the SH -> fast fall -> DJ dair and if they do any amount of DI that leaves them on stage then you have some combo choices to make. SH up air, ambiguous aerial shines, laser turn around up tilt, and more!

@MantisMonkey 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Ginger!

@jakejohnson9563 2 ай бұрын

GINGER (derogatory)

@mustafahamza4812 2 ай бұрын

Great video! Now where is the gecko code?

@James-ek3mb 2 ай бұрын

It's great to see you posting :D Has anything changed about your retirement status?

@SsbmGinger 2 ай бұрын

Nothing has changed in that regard, thanks for the support though :)

@adesn1 2 ай бұрын

Pls do more

@JoonTheKim 2 ай бұрын

Ty for covering this, I literally realized how good of a set up this was when mango did it to Cody at supernova so I’m glad you’re covering more of it