Winx is brilliant in the wet and Enable is good but not better than Winx in these conditions. "Many lengths"! IFHA ratings say otherwise. Winx raced mainly between 1400 and 2000 metres and both horses therefore would not meet at the Arc distance. Your opinion is, frankly, worthless

Winx is a legendary horse but For the life of me I cannot understand why Winx didn’t travel at least once to run. You can’t just sit there and say “she doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone”. That doesn’t fly on the world scene. If she really was the greatest (which it’s arguable) I feel a victory in any race seen as a Grade/Group 1 race on her preferred distance and surface. A victory like that could put her where perhaps she does belong, we’ll never really know.

@@jlove8445 Her mission was to win 4 Cox Plates, the WFA championship of Australian turf racing. Did she achieve that goal? When will another horse match her at that level? We'll both be dead when it happens! We could ask the same question of Frankel and many others. American turf tracks are ridiculous and their drug protocols are weak.

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Is there any way to view the “Beyer Speed Figures” of Winx in some way? I’d be able to tell (precisely) where she stacks up in seconds. If she’s really the best, she will have multiple Beyer Speed figures that are comparable or better to the Beyer Speed Figure of champion Mares in Europe. How about the British “Timeform” ratings that they use in England? How do her numbers precisely compare to those of horses like Goldikova, Enable, and a host of others. If her speed figures are indeed higher, I’d be willing to crown her

Gonna be Kingman first

EEEKKKK

Enable wasn’t the fav for this

She will lose today

watters she will make you EAT your words 😂😂😂😂😂

@@harpalchauhan428 so how much are you betting on her

@@mikewatte4478 I've got £450 at 10/11 from two weeks ago

@@mikewatte4478 what everyone fails to see in 3 years she has beaten all the best there was then and as for this years 3yr olds go are not good enough to beat her. And if you look at breeders cup turf when it was soft look how far back everyone else was to her and magical over 14 lengths.

I'm a atheist but for that I'll say amen for you. Lol

Like his father!

A superb machine.

All a fashion show to her knows nothing about racing

@@joeskerry5640 she does know something about racing as a kid she would have picked up info from her dad and also bet she rode out.

@@barbaradyson6951 what are you on about then saying you wonder how she got her job

@@joeskerry5640 you said she knew nothing, I said how did she get her job, compared to the others her knowledge isn't that good. There is a difference, she would have picked up info from her dad, however, her knowledge is lacking.

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fuck america lol

@@Lmclean89 Ha the typical "I hate America" "fuck America" at least be more original. The thing is Americans couldn't care less if we're hated.

We've all learnt what happened to Phar Lap. America is corrupt as fuck. Wouldn't be surprised if someone sniped the horse.

You got your wish, love international racing, look forward to seeing horses from around the world take each other on, many people in the UK love Americans so don't get drawn in, for the most part its just banter.

Now what you gotta say she came and pissed all over what America had to offer

tony fagan enbable 2017 & 2018 Arc winner.

american horses are not bred for turf racing

Tube 4625 so why do you have turf racing then is it because the horses are not good enough. Oh your dirt tracks kill on an average of 25 young tbs week, plus you use drugs and tape their noses.

She will get better with age, what a beautiful super filly.

sorry Barbara Dyson that's how it is and if you want that to change you have to come to usa and attend the horse owner's conferences where all horse owners are available for questions from people like you. They don't mind the statistics you provided and will love to explain why they do what they do. They will even give you tips about their horses that are about to win a race and this might cover your travel expense and then some. Oh yes we have a little bit of turf racing so that we can beat the snotty euro horses that come here to compete in the Breeder's Cup races , lol

Because their turf horses are simply not good enough.

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tony fagan The Coronation Cup is run the day before The Derby and in any case. Cracksman couldn’t run in The Derby. He’s a 4 yr old. The Derby is 3 yr olds only. The fact You didn’t know these things. Makes me wonder just how much you know about horse racing. If I were you. I’d delete your comment or at least edit it

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He could run in the Tokyo olympics..

goforit Winx 1400-1900 Enable 2100-2400 2000 ???

@@elgransenor1472 so 2040m<2000m to you???? And you say that you don't hate Winx...lol... #Laughable

BISH9484 I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say. That comment makes no sense.

@@elgransenor1472 stop playing dumb before I cuss you out just so you could get it!! Don't try to act smart!!!! The Cox Plate is 2040m!!!

BISH9484 I know it is I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make

@Barbara Dyson, it's been alleged for many years that several of the local trainers have used them to keep their horses "competitive" against the imports from Europe, South Africa, and other countries, but to my knowledge no Emirates trainer, to date, has ever been charged with a doping offense. One such case of "doping accusations" against an Emirates trainer that I remember pretty vividly was in 2009, the final season the Dubai Carnival was held at Nad Al Sheba before the new complex opened and they moved everything to Meydan in 2010. The alleged offense was leveled against trainer Mubarak bin Shafya, a young trainer who'd been an assistant trainer for a couple of the higher profile local trainers in Dubai until then. Shafya had only recently received his license to become a full trainer prior to the start of the 2009 Dubai Carnival. During that carnival, Shafya was responsible for Gladiatorus receiving three of the highest Timeform ratings of his career during his three carnival runs at Nad Al Sheba, and on world cup night 2009, Mubarak bin Shafya saddled both winners of the G1 Dubai Duty Free (Gladiatorus) and the G1 Dubai Sheema Classic (Eastern Anthem). The following season in 2010, questions about doping horses also swirled around former Godolphin trainer, Mahmood Al Zarooni, when in the first race on world cup night 2010, Al Zarooni would win the G2 Godolphin Mile with Calming Influence in what was Mahmood Al Zarooni's first ever starter on Dubai World Cup night. Just a coincidence?

@@GBeret83 I know in endurance riding dubai and uae were banned becsuse of drug use, where one arab was caught riding his horse with a broken fetlock. I also know one arab trainer in uk was banned for drug use. He said he thought it was the norm. It doesn't surprise me. That's possible why gosden doesn't send many horses to race there. Certainly not enable. Zarooni was banned in uk.