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@kevb8828 2 күн бұрын
This is quite painful to watch lol no offence! But let’s face it!!! Orange bikes have some of the worse specs for the money!!! Your spending 1000s and your still only getting forks like rockshox silver 35s when most other bikes for the money are getting fox 36 or lyriks! I wouldn’t say it’s got anything to do with the frame design as a lot of people like how simple and easy they are to work on it’s especially NOT because they are not making carbon bikes lol it’s the spec! The fact they are hand built in the uk vs every other brand who are not really manufacturing anything outside of Asia means that most of the money is going on the frame and not the spec…. Orange bikes in my opinion would be much better off going direct sales and improving the specs! If they had a competitive spec they would be a lot more successful…. How have you made this video and mentioned this!? 😂
@bikefilth 20 күн бұрын
I’m glad to see the old 4x track has been updated, used to fly down that thing, might try and get over there again
@Chalky555 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I realise it's an old one but for anyone that is interested the Ergons are £20 on Amazon.
@shrekman5008 29 күн бұрын
Blud goes to my school
@moparmtb360 Ай бұрын
I do love coed-y-brenin. But I miss the original car park and cafe that used to be the opposite side of the A470. Dafydd and Sian used to run the old cafe. I am a slave to nostalgia.
@MalvernsClassic Ай бұрын
Awesome insights, great work folks!
@FlyingMeta Ай бұрын
Nice insights! I'm in the process of swapping from Maxxis to Schwalbe again, after many years. Can't wait to give them a rip 🔥
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Nice!!! I’ve defo loved getting back on the Schwalbe
@wrenchride Ай бұрын
I remember going here for the very first time with my friend Jolly when it first opened and it was absolutely amazing so good and it is a real shame to hear it might be closing 😢
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
A shame indeed
@waynepennock115 Ай бұрын
Forest England now charge so much for event organisers to put on events that it is no longer economically viable. As a result the takings at the cafes are drastically reduced meaning they face closure. This is what’s happening at Gisburn Forest and because the cafe closes less people ride the trails, money for the trail repairs/development is cut as FE see reduced footfall and it’s a slow downward spiral. ☹️
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
You’re right it’s a domino effect
@st1ffee Ай бұрын
I have so many fond memories it’s a bit of a trek for me to travel to I think natural resources should diversify and add glamping and other outdoor sports
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Clamping etc is a great shout
@davidanness6180 Ай бұрын
How sad
@markroberts7866 Ай бұрын
Forestry wise they just don’t seem very consistent for me Cannock without off piste would be rubbish but if I go to fod I never leave the official trails well not yet 😂 £70 membership for Cannock and only £40 for Fod makes no sense from an mtb point of view, then there’s all these old golf courses ontrack have worked on that have stuff you can’t find at a trail centre outside of Fod..
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Yeah there’s always been huge inconsistencies between different FC’s… I’ve spoken with so many race organisers over the years too, and their relationship with each forestry dept has a huge effect, some really welcome mtb and others just aren’t bothered…
@markroberts7866 Ай бұрын
@ well this sums it up I’m about 7 miles from Cannock so it’s my local and yet I’ve done a volunteer dig day at Fod it’s like 2 different cultures, Fod got an award for it’s volunteer community like a King Charles award 🤯😂
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
@@markroberts7866 that’s super interesting
@springlakeswatersports149 Ай бұрын
Great place and love more natural trails over the newer wide flow stuff… just struggle to find accommodation near with e-bike charging and secure bike parking..
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
That’s interesting 🤔
@Fifty-one-Fifty Ай бұрын
I was there years in 2016 and loved the cafe and set up there. But trails are being built differently now with more flow, table tops and berms and wider to suit the changes to bike geometry. The old narrow crunchy trails are a thing of the past.
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
You might be right
@mattpayne8406 Күн бұрын
I went last month, the trails are more oldskool than what the kids want these days, but I love technical cross country and this place ticked so many boxes… we don’t all want 800m runs full of gaps, step ups and northshore! The beast was a great way to spend the day, huge grinds uphill rewarded by fast, technical descents… perfect! I echo the previous comment on parking, about a fiver for the day… bargain!
@shaunjohn4591 Ай бұрын
They are only closing the centre down, not the trails! Same with nant yr arian. Trails will all remain open. Also they are looking for local's to take over the cafe's .
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
I think the worry that people are having is that if they close the cafes what’s next?
@readikus Ай бұрын
@@TheHeadAngle If fuckwit keeps posting stuff like this stirring up shit for clicks. Absolute bell end.
@Tom-hl7wc Ай бұрын
It’s the typical socialist Welsh government. They want to give everybody everything for free without thinking where the money comes from. The economy in North Wales relies heavily on tourism but they don’t prioritise it. These types of efficiencies will have a wider impact on all sorts of supporting businesses. It’s all very short sighted. There seems to be an anti tourism sentiment from the Welsh nationalists when in actual fact they should be embracing an industry that is one of the few they have left.
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@benhoward4294 Ай бұрын
Ridden CYB many times over the years. I always enjoyed it but I think part of its problem was it didn’t move with the times and appeal to the evolving mtb community. Dalby feels like it’s going the same way. Rested on its early laurels. Maybe the appeal of trail centres has shifted too far to places like BPW.
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly, Dalby is a good shout too, it could be so much more than it is
@bindipper018 Ай бұрын
I'll bet they have sold the woodland. To be felled
@JamesGoddardftw Ай бұрын
@@bindipper018 Are you serious? I cant tell if thats a joke or not! They harvest thousands of tons from that woodland every year the clues in the name Natural Resources Wales….. its the only reason they exist and even if they did lease it out (its not theirs to sell) the NRW still have the final say over which trees can and cant be harvested
@readikus Ай бұрын
What do you think they have the forest for?!
@ap6584 Ай бұрын
As long as people continue to pay for the parking this should cover the costs of any trail maintenance? I didn't use the cafe anyway, always went to Dolgellau Kebab after for a juicy cheeseburger
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Nice post ride kebab sounds amazing… the parking is cheap tho compared to other trail spots not that I’d like to see it be more expensive but it t does make me think they’ve got their budgeting wrong maybe
@ap6584 Ай бұрын
@TheHeadAngle I'd happily pay a bit more for parking
@dwrowley Ай бұрын
I love Coed Y Brenin, if I lived closer I would visit more often , could a group of local volunteers keep an eye on the trails and the money from the car park go towards them, it will be a shame if it does close for good
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
That would be a good idea
@stephenslater8331 Ай бұрын
been a few times this summer and the car park camera wasn't working so no cost to park it was full every time so it's not making any money because it's free to use
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve heard that from a few people
@fredEVOIX Ай бұрын
1st images I see...you're on a hiking trail probably stolen from hikers and declared "a bike trail" so.....don't really care honestly I hike I ride I drive a sportscar 2 of those activites are regularly invaded by cyclists, cyclists well known to respect no roads nor sidewalks and now they steal forest and mountains trails..never paying for anything btw lots of hikers fund hiking associations, you'll think I'm a hater but I'm not those are undisputable facts, I also ride on hiking trails but I know I'm the intruder unlike pure mtb riders who think "stealing" hundreds of years old hiking trails is ok which I really can't stand being both a hiker and rider, I do not mind bike parks at all as long as they were purpose built for that great but cutting the only trail on the side of a mountain to "create a new business opportunity" hell no and that happens a lot I did 12'000ft of mountain ascent in 3 days last week on a ebike and lifted if for almost 2 miles on rocky terrain not a keyboard warrior but I'd rather keep wild trails wild than create highways for casuals
@fredEVOIX Ай бұрын
fun fact in my area there's an unofficial bike park no signs no nothing it's community maintained so as long as people are there to help build the ramps and clear the trail it'll be here AND it's next to the hiking trail not ON it big difference
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
I think you’re confused mate, I can assure you none of this was on any “hiking trail” it’s a mountain bike trail network which has existed since the 90s the only time we came off the trail was when we used bridle paths, one of which had become disused and impassable because of a fallen tree
@andywhite2695 Ай бұрын
😊😊
@SDK2006b Ай бұрын
I've been riding here since 2007. More recently I've been taking my son - we've done it 4 times since 2020, and he loves it too, especially on our new eMTB's 😊😊 I felt things were changing on our trip in August this year, where too much wasn't being charged for - The car park, the bike wash and the EV charging.
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
We were saying the same, paid only £6 for parking and the bike was free, compared to Cannock where it’s like £15 to park and the trails are no where near as big
@Chris7uk00 Ай бұрын
@@TheHeadAngle It's only £11 for all day parking not £15 at cannock, also you can get a national membership pass it's £94 for the year which allows you to park for no extra cost at any forest that owned or run by forestry england, so if you do alot of mtb riding it pays for it's self pretty quickly. You could go and ride any trail owned or run by forestry england across the UK with that membership.
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
@@Chris7uk00 fair enough that is a good deal but I think the feeling that I get from the people I speak to is that CYB is significantly cheaper like for like and the trail network is much bigger… although Cannocks location I’m sure plays a big part to its popularity
@stealthmovements8569 Ай бұрын
You don't know why? Cost of living and energy increases since the start of the Ukraine war, mountains of government corruption and inflation as well, destroyed luxury recreational retail and the cycling industry got hit hard, the average person just doesn't see it affordable anymore.
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
All valid points but when mountain biking is still hugely popular and other trails like BPW, Dyfi and Degla etc seem to be still thriving where are they focusing on CYB 🤷♂️
@redboyjan Ай бұрын
@TheHeadAngle Which makes the least money to shareholders? That's all that matters now. We are cash cows. Especially since tory brexit and trading with Putin came home to roost. Is what it is. People voted for all this
@thatpeskylimey Ай бұрын
Could be also to do that theres uplifts at Dyfi, BPW etc and people just dont wanna pedal as much. Ebikers even put their bikes on the uplift vans haha We went to CYB a couple of years ago and were disappointed as half the trails were closed or had huge road sections as detours, and there appeared to have been minimal investment in the centre for a long time. Its a shame really as it used to be great. You need to invest to get people to want and come to use it
@barryholt3526 Ай бұрын
In that case it would be an advertising and publicity issue.@@TheHeadAngle
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
@@thatpeskylimey I was thinking this a bit too, the trails are great but they're very specific to a certain type/style of riding, maybe not enough variety, no flow/jump line, no skills area or pump track for the kids... its all got to be considered.
@Davet998 Ай бұрын
I visited for the first time in July with a group of friends and we all loved the Beast and plan to return.
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
It’s a great loop.
@JamesGoddardftw Ай бұрын
Thumbs down for the clickbait. You know, I know and everybody else that can read knows the trails are safe. ONLY THE CAFE IS CLOSING
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
If you watch the full video mate you’ll see I discuss this and the other rumours in the press
@JamesGoddardftw Ай бұрын
@@TheHeadAngle They aren’t rumours NRW made their final decision public 2 weeks ago
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
@ I know about that mate. but when speaking with people in the industry NRW states they’re making around 300 redundancies to focus on their “core responsibilities” but NRW won’t comment if the 300 are all visitor centre staff or if a portion is also trail maintenance etc. Hence why the rumours are still the future of the trails is not 100% guaranteed… Truth is none of us no what’s happening for sure and that’s the whole question asked in the vid. 🤓 Hope you’re right tho… ultimately if the place was making money they’d be no worry I suppose 🤷♂️ Thanks for the comments tho, if you know anymore than I do let me know 👊🏻🫡💪
@chrishewgill2781 Ай бұрын
Absolutely, once the Visitor Centre and Cafe close, the numbers of visitors will reduce drastically. That begs the question, how much funding and resources will NRW put into the trails and where will their priorities lie? It’s a sad indictment all round 😢
@JamesGoddardftw Ай бұрын
@@TheHeadAngle About a third of those redundencies are unfilled positions anyway and the remainder is spread over NRW as a whole not just staff from the 3 centres no longer offering catering and retail. The trails will be maintained by NRW, they have to be its a liability issue. Their only other option is to deny public access to everybody (they are more than just MTB sites) Absolute worst case is that in the long term trail maintenance will fall onto volunteer groups managed by NRW just like it does in Dyfi which has been the case there for decades. Theres no shortage of guys n gals willing to do it, its a tried and tested method and in no way a bad thing.
@chrishewgill2781 Ай бұрын
Another great video Andy. Been riding CYB since the 90’s when Sian & Dafyyd Roberts ran things, be a bloody travesty if it all folds!!
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Cheers Chris, Travesty is a very good way to describe it… god knows what’s going to happen but I hope it stays, feels like it’s a part of our history. Hope the family is doing ok… we need to get out for a ride mate 🫡👊🏻
@chrishewgill2781 Ай бұрын
Definitely, I need to get out, let’s arrange something, I’ll message you 👍
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
100% I keep doing loads of work at Prestwold and meaning to pop in but always so busy running around I need to run
@chrishewgill2781 Ай бұрын
@@TheHeadAngle❤
@yourmtblocal Ай бұрын
Research agenda 21. 👍
@CoachGrantBrown 2 ай бұрын
What glasses are you wearing in this?
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Sorry this video is 5 years old I can’t remember what I had for breakfast let alone what glasses they were 😂
@CoachGrantBrown Ай бұрын
@@TheHeadAngle No worries!
@lukerichardson1638 2 ай бұрын
Ive just bought one, not had ot off road yet but does anyone adjust rhe crank arms? Only done a few miles on road but wasnt to sure?
@NextLevelRiding 2 ай бұрын
just rode FOD for the first time - fun trails!
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Absolutely mega place to ride
@NextLevelRiding Ай бұрын
@@TheHeadAngle looking forward to my next trip. cheers!
@xXxTeenSplayer 2 ай бұрын
They race e-bikes? Do they have their own class or what?
@TheHeadAngle Ай бұрын
Yes mate they do either age categories too
@miathemalinoisgsdx1320 2 ай бұрын
take it the timed runs were all down the hill and the uphill rides at your leisure.
@TheHeadAngle 2 ай бұрын
That’s correct
@iainlockhart6431 2 ай бұрын
I’m late to the discussion but have recently taken delivery of an X9, incredibly happy and such a great spec and geometry. I agree with some comments regarding the depth of the product menu being quite vast. They definitely need to get the marketing sorted, canyon have the GCN team sown up with their bikes involved in every variation of test features. Essential to secure some leverage in this area through GCN or Bike Radar + a need to get a notable rider with good video presence for the marketing. Must be able to capitalise on made in Britain instead of the mass production of Trek, Specialized etc in Asian OEM factories
@electriceheads369 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤
@martyndyson9501 3 ай бұрын
Really nice bike, lightweight means expensive materials though, unfortunately they need to be light so you can throw them around like an analogue bike, most electric bikes are just too heavy, but with carbon fibre you can take some weight out, but like i said making something lighter means it costs more, i seen this one one £5,699.00.. 😅
@PixelProdigyGamer 3 ай бұрын
It's not unbelievable.People have been doing it for years decades.
@user-nn4wj8gk9s 3 ай бұрын
Great camera,both on and off the bike .have you watched the yt video off the frame snapping and injury?what camera are you using please?
@Transitn 3 ай бұрын
wait... this isnt redbull!!??!!
@kaneda4102 3 ай бұрын
There’s not many out there like this guy- I really appreciate it when people talk about e-bikes without putting down traditional MTB’s.
@kaneda4102 3 ай бұрын
I remember it being one of the coolest brands and used to get really annoyed about the Orange mobile phone service using the name
@Concrete-k4l 3 ай бұрын
Superb bike!
@bikefilth 3 ай бұрын
There are so many issues with the industry at the moment. Expensive bikes and independent bike shops ripping customers off, it’s really taking a knock.
@Concrete-k4l 3 ай бұрын
Picked one up a few weeks ago, it’s superb! 130 miles on it so far! Did 27 miles last ride out and had just under 40% bat left. That was with quite a lot of climbing too in turbo/mtn.
@MTBEAST007 4 ай бұрын
The ebike is always the best bike for anywhere without a lift, including Greno. I think you should come and try Deathwood with us.
@michaellavender9575 4 ай бұрын
Why not stick to the bike trails supplied and leave the other paths for horse riding and walkers it’s just so selfish of bike riders
@Vind.gaming 3 ай бұрын
Hes finding other paths that have been made by people out if the way whats selfish about that?
@matildakelly2222 3 ай бұрын
@@Vind.gamingwhat’s your problem?? Surely the idea of cycling is to find new paths/trails. There’s is plenty of space for everyone.
@MalamuteMan1 4 ай бұрын
Not a a trail guide, at all. Half the video is self promotion and bmx talk. If you're looking for an actual Dalby forest guide and idea of which trails to take - This is NOT the video for you. If lots of shaky footage, zero information on the routes/trails and shit music is your thing with a fat lad who thinks he's a much better rider than he actually is..... Then enjoy! 17:09 minutes I'll never get back. 😢
@enriquee.k3329 4 ай бұрын
British 💪🏻
@adamplumtree64 4 ай бұрын
Just on my way too JEC too but one 🤗
@treenahally4358 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Didn’t know this existed