Thank you for your REAL EXPERIENCE sharing. Im about to mount my HF dust collector on the wall too. Im still not sure about the impeller upgrade. I am mounting next to my breaker and I as I rewired my entire shop its easy to cut the drywall and run a 20 amp wire and outlet if needed. It seems EVERYONE is an EXPERT when it comes to dust collection too. At the end, I think its about EACH persons needs, risk, and cost. I run my shop as a startup business. Im retired too, so Its not MANDATORY with the stress. I can take the lost to build my shop right and take my time learning which many dont have the opportunity to do. I appreciate you HONESTY too, and keeping things REAL. Blessings.
@builtforlife6 күн бұрын
I agree everyone has different needs, and while the impeller did increase airflow it’s not a must. The dust collector still moves plenty of air with the factory one, and if the factory one doesn’t end up meeting your needs you can always go back and change it. If you have an Instagram for your business send me a message on instagram and i will follow.
@mannyfilmsinc16 күн бұрын
the trolly idea: 100! where did you source it or did you make one?
@builtforlife14 күн бұрын
I got the strut at Home Depot and the trolley from amazon. hopefully this link will work below amzn.to/3VTdtNh
@magnoliaoakswoodshop24 күн бұрын
Hi Joel, great video! Very interesting idea and you did a great job on final finishing/details. Definitely look to build something like this when we get our CNC...
@tgiacobbi29 күн бұрын
Why did you do it backwards? I just put some together but put the nuts in the correct way.
@builtforlife28 күн бұрын
Because the nuts i used only lock up in one direction and I used the unistrut backwards from the way normally intended
@cottagemail4066Ай бұрын
What gauge are all your HVAC parts?
@builtforlife28 күн бұрын
I don’t know but if it helps i bought it all off the shelf a lowes and there’s not much variety there.
@cottagemail406628 күн бұрын
@@builtforlife thanks!
@jadoke2073Ай бұрын
I’m only 2 1/2 minutes into this video and I’m already questioning your methods. Why all the talking and measuring? Why not just throw a 4’x4’ piece of plywood on there and see if it will bevel the edges of it? Done.
@builtforlifeАй бұрын
Well my methods came from the questions i had before i purchased the machine…. Obviously the base will fit a half sheet and more but what i was measuring is the actual travel of the machine.
@ContriverGuitarsАй бұрын
This was exactly my issue! Thank you!
@builtforlifeАй бұрын
Glad it helped.
@mikeconroy2651Ай бұрын
Great info! I just bought that dust collector used and that is what lead me to your initial video. In designing what I had and how I wanted to lay it out, it is essentially very similar to your system layout in this video, although it's going to be portable, so it will look more like a tall Laguna Pflux. Like you, I worry about the Wen impeller weight (haven't added it yet but most likely will) But I worry more about turning the motor on its end because I worry that the armature weight + the impeller weight will wear out some thrust washer as the motor didn't have that kind of downward loading of weight applied when the shaft was oriented horizontally. I have a couple questions. As I said, my order of components is similar to yours except the old filter/bag round piece (separator) will be my inlet and the motor/blower will mount on top of that, where you now have the filter. I'll extend the motor fan inlet about 6 to 8" down, past the round concave baffle and just slightly beneath the inlet port, to make that separator function more like a cyclone would. So, that's stage one. Then stage two is the fan outlet feeds the inlet of my super dust deputy. The bottom outlet of the dust deputy will have a 1-to-3-gallon bucket on the bottom of it for fine dust and then a filter or filter box on the dust deputy top discharge port. The question is; just how much dust are you are actually accumulating in your second and 3rd stage ( the bag and filter)? You have a 3-stage system as you have installed it (cyclone/separator/filter) so I'm curious what and how much material actually makes it through to the 3rd stage. I may not need a filter with that much surface area if not much gets through to there. I've seen people show the level of separation by starting with an empty system then sucking up a pile of debris. Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience!
@Zombieslag2 ай бұрын
It looks like you could move the entire 4x4 over to the left at least 1/4" and get the full actual 4x4 cutting capacity with the bit setter still in place. Have you tested it again since this vid? Also I know you're using the clamp screws that came with the kit but would longer screws make it so you can get the piece even further over (closer to the center of the t-track)? Excellent video. I've wanted a shapeoko since the original XXL and am finally getting to place that I may be able to get one soon so I appreciate the thorough info.
@builtforlife2 ай бұрын
Yes i tried every way i could to fit it. The easiest thing to do is just make a little notch in the material and just avoid that area in the design. The other way is if i am just cutting i will remove the bit setter and zero to the spoil board. It’s a great machine for the money.
@ZombieslagАй бұрын
@@builtforlife Awesome, thanks for the reply and the info!
@rtroiani2 ай бұрын
I just sold my SO3 XXL and will be ordering a 5 Pro. On the slow homing, I had that on my 3 and they gave me a command to type in to speed that up, but I can’t remember it. If you ask them they can probably hook you up.
@sum1sw2 ай бұрын
Good job. Thank you so much
@RobertQuattlebaum2 ай бұрын
I'm curious about how the pressure with the new fan is different now. You mention that the airflow has increased, but what about pressure? I think the different blade orientation would have.a pretty large effect on the pressure.
@builtforlife6 күн бұрын
I haven’t ignored your comment i have been looking into it and i don’t have a good way of measuring. I think the only way i could compare would be to neck it down to 2.5 and compare it too a shop vac but at the end of the day that doesn’t really tell me anything because this type of system is made for 4” I’m running it on 4” all the way to the tool and it works great. Thanks for watching!
@ehrhart41192 ай бұрын
I've set up a woodworking shop and now have a clean slate, but I'm uncertain about what diameter pipe to opt for in my dust collection system. Currently, I'm equipped with a Harbor Freight 2HP setup, enhanced with upgraded fan blades and a P181038 filter, alongside the addition of the Oneida Cyclone, which I've wall-mounted. I've noticed many KZbin creators employing 4" pipes, while a few opt for 6". Could you shed some light on why you chose the size you did?"
@builtforlife2 ай бұрын
I would love to act like I’m the pinnacle of information, but i am not. All i can tell you is what I have experienced and learned. 4 inch for a small shop seems the most logical to me especially on a smaller system. The more pipe you spread out the more you reduce flow. For the money metal HVAC has worked fine ( not perfect, but works). There is a lot of science and opinion out there that you can analyze to death and never make a decision. I think the best thing to do is build what you want and figure out what works and doesn’t for your situation.
@eriorellana892 ай бұрын
i love how you edit in the real world struggles we all face sometimes.
@builtforlife2 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@yamlcase230Ай бұрын
no kidding! that sucker is HEAVY.
@eriorellana892 ай бұрын
filter cost more than what i paid for the dust collector
@builtforlife2 ай бұрын
Filter is the most important part. Definitely worth the expense not only in airflow, but to me the big benefit is the health aspect. The only way i wouldn't run it is if i could somehow mange to run the system outside .
@AgribusinessDR.G.2 ай бұрын
I have heard that some people have had issues with the Wen impeller, not a perfect fit and caused noise.
@builtforlife2 ай бұрын
I didn't have any issues really. The initial amp draw is higher, but that is about it. If I did it all again I don't know if I would do it right out the gate again. I would probably get the system installed how I wanted it, and then decide if I need the extra flow.
@newt20103 ай бұрын
If it does everything you need, then. that is ALL that matters. Get it people that are pulling your hair out?
@builtforlife2 ай бұрын
Well its my own fault if you make a youtube video you have to understand people are going to tell you what they think. I'm right there with you though it does everything I need so i like it.
@OnefinityCNC3 ай бұрын
Glad you got that fixed up! Time to carve!
@builtforlife3 ай бұрын
It’s running every day right now. Gotta take a break and do a fun project soon.
@OnefinityCNC3 ай бұрын
We know ours will :P at 2x the speed :P
@builtforlife3 ай бұрын
That’s what I hear…. If you want to send me one I will put that dude to work at twice the speed.
@02Huntet3 ай бұрын
mine just quit on me after 5 mos use….. its the gun not the battery
@builtforlife3 ай бұрын
I have put in some mild use with it now and it’s okay I’m definitely looking at the Milwaukee detail sander now… it has a 2 year warranty i would be interested to see how Rikon customer service treats you to replace it.
@anthonylau30653 ай бұрын
Does this have a 5 year warranty?
@codarussell79252 ай бұрын
Link to the 1.1inch sanding disc?
@spaminacan60393 ай бұрын
What brand is the table frame you've got yours setup on? I'm about to order an XXL and I like that steel frame vs building one out of 4x4 posts and wood frame
@builtforlife3 ай бұрын
I welded that one up out of steel from a pallet rack, but Kreg makes a metal frame for a 64x64 top.
@billsimmons77544 ай бұрын
More than one data point is necessary to characterize the effectiveness of these modifications. I could be that when 20 foot of duct is installed that the flow falls on its face. The flow should have been measured by installing a vacuum gauge and a blast gate and then measuring the air velocity at different vaccum. Also knowing that most import motors usually have no reserve it would be nice to know what the motor amperage was pre modification. I understand the motor is slower to start and thus will be drawing max current for a longer time at start up but I am more concerned about the running current. A start capaciitor does not reduce the starting current, (it actually increases it) but reduces the time for the motor to get up to full speed which helps reduce overheating on startup.
@alanrichardson72444 ай бұрын
How mush dust collects in your filter? I run a sander and it really plugs up the filter.
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
I haven’t cleaned the filter yet. I have blown it out and got little to no dust in the bag. Granted most of my sanding i use a shop vac with a hep filter and bag.
@alanrichardson72444 ай бұрын
I added a donut baffle in the top of my filter side and a theine baffle on the bottom to try and prevent the thin dust sneaking up into my filter and the theine baffle traps the light dust in the bag. For my elevator I used the cranks off two pipe clamps welded to an angle bar. I shortened the pipes and attached them with collars to the base. It raises and lowers my barrel very well and seals it up under my cycline ring. My theine baggie is in the lid of the barrel.
@WackeyWorxWorkshop4 ай бұрын
Great video guy. Thank you for putting out your content. I did something similar to mine and is on my channel. It takes a lot to put out these videos and I understand the amount of effort that you have put in. Great job.
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much … it’s a steep learning curve on the recording and editing side.
@WackeyWorxWorkshop4 ай бұрын
@@builtforlife well if you never like to discuss, I'm always open to it
@karlsangree46794 ай бұрын
Love the review; thanks for posting it. I'm thinking of upgrading from a FoxAlien Vasto. I think I have it narrowed down to the Shapeoko 5 Pro 4x4 and Onefinity Elite Foreman (4x4). My Vasto is working well but I'm finding that the Vasto's 15"x15" platform is just a bit small for some of the work I do. I'm torn between the 4x4 and 4x2. I have the room for a 4x4 but took note of your commentary on the machine homing time which would be twice as long on a 4x4. But... I just know that the first time a job doesn't fit on the 4x2 I would be kicking myself.
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. If space and price are not a factor then the 4x4 seems the way to go. I have a laser that is 16”x16” and it got small very quick. My 4x4 cnc hasn’t been too small yet.
@karlsangree46794 ай бұрын
@@builtforlife Space is not a problem and I am of the "Buy once, cry once" school of thought. Just ordered a Shapeoko 5 Pro 4x4. Thanks again.
@billmurphyoutdoors3374 ай бұрын
Just wondering if lightburn is an option on operating this cnc...thanks Bill
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
I have lightburn and i am fairly up to speed on it and i do not know if a feature that would allow you to run a cnc. It’s really the tool database and ability of the software to calculate the tool path.
@willaimharrell60914 ай бұрын
If you can run that same motor on 220v you will use almost half the amperage. IF my reading is correct check on that & if my understanding is 😅 I would appreciate knowing 14:04 15:18 15:21
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
I would like to say I’m schooled up on electricity to know the answer here but I am not. I am just planning on adding a 30 amp circuit to my garage and i think that will solve most of my problems.
@franktaylor384 ай бұрын
I thought my headphones had stopped working at the end of the video, but no, just no sound lol. Good video
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
I’ll check it out thank you
@GeraldRahm4 ай бұрын
What size Donaldson filter was used ?
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
There is a link in the comments to the specific part number. Please let me know if it doesn't work.
@user-rv9dr4ix6c4 ай бұрын
Im not sure if the filter linked is correct, the product dimensions are listed as Product Dimensions 12.2 x 12.2 x 8.27 inches which I dont think can be correct@@builtforlife
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
I’ll check the link but the part number should be P181038
@Morfoot64 ай бұрын
I wanna know what computer mount you have there? I’ve been looking for something very similar to that!! Good video, thanks.
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
There is a link in the description to this one. Let me know if it doesn’t work. The mount is the best thing i did to this table it’s awesome.
@jessicaedwards4495 ай бұрын
😮
@jessicaedwards4495 ай бұрын
😂
@PiercesPerfectPieces5 ай бұрын
I like it!! 💯
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
Thank you… just good fun.
@spudrunner79175 ай бұрын
Nice ! Can you give me the info on your computer mount please ?
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
I just updated the video description and put a link in there for you. Thanks for watching.
@Anubi555 ай бұрын
Came for the dust collector, stayed for the Vodoo, and the titan fitness boxes!, my type of channel :), what you dot on those boxes?
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
You’ll have to keep your eyes out in the rest of my videos. I haven’t done anything intentionally showing all that but it’s a pretty awesome setup.
@CampfireWoodworksRVA5 ай бұрын
Is be interested in purchasing your paint can holder. Great design.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
Well i will let you know i think I’m going to have some of that ready by the end of this week. I’ll reach out soon.
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
I just wanted to let you know I was able to get things up and running to purchase this file. I will put the link in the video description.
@CampfireWoodworksRVA4 ай бұрын
Thanks brother! Just ordered it.
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
This may be just an everyday thing to you, but you are my first customer on my website. Thank you. Please let me know if you have any issues
@CampfireWoodworksRVA4 ай бұрын
That’s awesome!!! Thanks for sharing. My site should be live in a couple weeks and I’ll be pumped when / if I get my first sale as well. I should be on your newsletter, so I’ll keep an eye out for new stuff. I’ll also give feedback on the item when I carve it.
@stevereese64885 ай бұрын
The intake port, cut out that cross support and the cfm will increase even more.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
That happens in the second video where i mount it on the wall and attach a cyclone separator.
@larryshreve90765 ай бұрын
10/10 on the trolley 🏆
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@gruvinnz5 ай бұрын
I have the 4 pro. It's solid. The biggest downfall of Shapeoko's products is without any doubt their crappy controller and software. I wish they just put a standard Mach3/UCNC/LPT port on their machines so we could use decent software. Their crap is soooo lame by comparison. (I built my own controller and threw theirs in the bin. WAY better. We shouldn't have to do that when we're paying this much money for the machine itself!)
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
You are clearly more well versed in the software side than I am. I have had multiple people tell me this about the controller though.
@gruvinnz5 ай бұрын
@@builtforlife Hey. Yeah, actually, their controller itself runs the well enough, using trusted GRBL software internally BUT Carbide3D for some bizarre reason decided to write a custom (highly limited and buggy) "wrapper" around it. This means you have no access to GRBL itself and thus many of its standard features. Want to pause a job half way through, rewind a bit and continue? No problem in GRBL or UCNC or Mach3 or LinuxCNC. With Carbide's system, you're basically screwed. You have to abort and either rerun from the start or scrap the piece altogether. Want to calibrate your own Z-probe? Maybe the one they shipped is off by a thou? Nope. Can't even do that. You have to trust that their factory got the thing made perfectly accurately and it didn't change between then and when you go it. Still the BEST physical machine available in its class for the money and global availability (I'm in NZ). Just such a damned shame they physically prohibit anyone from running better software to drive it, once they're ready. OK/ I'm done. hehe Have a good one!
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
Love it … you are screaming all the problems i have with the machine. The more and more i use it the more I find things i want it to do that seem simple. Like change the rapid positions locations to where i want them to be. It’s not my last CNC i will ever have but it works for now.
@kerrybrown88805 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, I am a woodworker looking to add some automation for projects - Looking at your table, why did you set it up so high?
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
I’m in a 2 car garage with part of it being a gym so i made it high to nest another work table underneath it. I had to use cubic feet instead of square feet.
@cherokeevapor84805 ай бұрын
I haven't used screws in forever to much work. You need to try plastic nails, yes they are a thing for nail guns . It doesn't matter where you use the as you can cut right thru them . Lots less work
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
I have seen this and composite nails, but do you need a special nail gun to shoot them? I was literally trying to cut some thin stuff today that was all bowed up thinking about looking into it.
@cherokeevapor84804 ай бұрын
They do make a special gun but you can use a regular nail if you regulate the air pressure down to around 70psi . They work better in softer woods you just need to try ln some test wood. We don't shoot hundreds of nails in to a project anyway . I think Amazon has a Senco brand gun that's a lot cheaper if you want to go that route
@cherokeevapor84804 ай бұрын
Sorry I took so long to reply, I just got a notification about an hour ago. Hope this helps you out
@terrybox74435 ай бұрын
Look at your yardstick at time 9:01. I’m only counting 12 divisions between inches, not 16.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
That is actually a machine ruler and it has 4 different scales one of them being 1/12-1/6 good eye. 3/12 is.25 that scale just shows up better on camera as it is not as busy.
@AcrylicMemories5 ай бұрын
wow it came out beautiful Subbed
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad to have you here.
@51rclewis5 ай бұрын
Nice video! I’m wondering if you compared this machine to the Onefinity Journeyman Pro prior to buying? I’m contemplating one or the other.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
I did compare… the price was better on the shapeoko and i will end up with a commercial cnc when i am able to take this full time i think.
@ThierryC23735 ай бұрын
Do you know that you must ground to Earth the plastic and the metal piping to avoid any fire risk with the dust friction, you have no idea how explosive dusted environment can be. I've been a pro in woodworking and all dust collection pipes must be grounded to Earth in commercial workshops. The easiest way is to connect a copper cable to the metal pipes and use small sections with collars on the plastic connections.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
Well you have a good eye Sr. I have not grounded it yet. I am aware of the risks involved but like everything else I do I turned it into a learning experience. I have been watching the exterior to see if dust builds up. My plan was to see it build up then clean it ground it and see the difference. I have not accumulated any dust yet. I am keeping an eye on it though and Thank You for looking out for me.
@SaltyWoodworking5 ай бұрын
He does not have to ground his pvc lines. There is not a single documented case of pvc being the cause of a fire in a home setting. Industrial is completely different.
@WackeyWorxWorkshop4 ай бұрын
Did you know that? If you don't believe your doors open when a herd of elephants run through, you might get hurt cuz you won't see it coming... You have a nice day sir and thanks for watching his video.
@elkskiutah82045 ай бұрын
seems like lots of CFM loss would have been nice to measure at the cyclone to see the piping loss. Have you cleaned your filter yet? looks a bit hard to get up there for that.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
Haven’t cleaned it yet there is barely any dust in the bag. I’m sure a lot was lost with the cyclone but totally worth it to have the barrel collection. I just gotta figure out a way to monitor the fullness. It’s pretty easy to get to the filter though those turnbuckles tighten down plenty by hand.
@elkskiutah82045 ай бұрын
@@builtforlife they make a level detector. it was like 170$ but I want to get one because my system will be in adjacent shed. amazon for 171$ Dust Sentry Bin Level Indicator made by Oneida
@builtforlife4 ай бұрын
Thanks I’m going to check this out for sure!
@elkskiutah82045 ай бұрын
ok, so I will try not to drop my blower.. and I will put anchor points on the blower to winch it up in place.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
Ha ha yeah it’s pretty heavy. It would not have been so hard but i was trying to work between the garage door track and the wall. If it was wide open space it would have been no issue.
@elkskiutah82045 ай бұрын
It would be nice if the Donaldson website listed micron filtration size and merv ratings. I just got the 2hp 35 gal harbor freight 299$ -10% discount for ML King weekend. . It is a different model number 59726 and its 97869than the 70 gal one that they still have fir 279$. Not sure of the motor is the same and the bag ring same diameter. The mew one is 19 3/8" od. And 18 7/8" id where that slope is. So this filter should fit . Wonder why you didn't get 1550 cfm stock as advertised
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
I actually emailed the good folks over at Donaldson and they told me the rating and i did some research and it is right at Merv 15. As far as the CFM goes i think it’s the way i was measuring it. That tool is not meant for it. I think it worked to show the increases in airflow but a different tool would be needed for an actual honest to goodness CFM roaring. Out of all the upgrades i have down the filter is definitely the best.
@elkskiutah82045 ай бұрын
@@builtforlife ordered one... going with a new version 4/5 Oneida cyclone. but is making the inlet from 5-6" needed... I may get the larger impeller.. .and as far as the impeller blade sweep it makes sense to improve the flow with back swept blades. there is actually a perfect curve for air at a certain temp and pressure and flow rate but thats a fancy shape.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
The main reason i made the inlet larger was because the inlet on the dust deputy was either 4” or 6” and i could not fine a tight fitting adapter to make it work with 5”. The whole 5” thing is just annoying ha ha
@elkskiutah82045 ай бұрын
@@builtforlife I have not looked for a good fitting 5-6" adapter yet. do you have any suggestions on where to look... maybe a better choice today than when you looked before.
@Love2FlyKAP5 ай бұрын
This is a maintenance/owner issue. Manual states to check all hardware for torque and do this ongoing per manual . Also looks like you modified your CNC, looks like an issue you may have created by not properly torquing the hardware. Cleaning off your CNC is also part of overall maintenance.
@builtforlife5 ай бұрын
I haven’t modified anything. The screws in this video come assembled with lock tight on them. That is one of the things CC uses as a selling point “fully assembled Z axis.” There is no reason these screws should have backed out. I conduct regular inspections and preventative maintenance on my machine. Thanks for watching.