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@Артем-ц7о4х 13 сағат бұрын
Hi ! Can you make a multimensural baritone guitar to sound like in this song ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWfQepRpj5yDjpY
@dans5741 Күн бұрын
Great video! Got me to subscribe too.
@ChrisbottrellphotographyCoUk 2 күн бұрын
I love the layout and features of the g3 but only 100khz. I so wish they would release a 1mhz per axis version
@DarkArtGuitars 2 күн бұрын
Yes, I was quite surprised when I found this limitation. It works fine just setting the resolution of the servos lower but definitely not ideal. I believe they're working on increasing the speed but no idea when that will come out.
@VermilionCNC 2 күн бұрын
Not only the machine, but the desing of that is amazing, congrats you doing well, gretings from MX
@maximusmeridius1240 2 күн бұрын
Excellent presentation thanks
@aconitic9984 3 күн бұрын
I'm based in Switzerland and start as a hobbyist with a CNC. I'm looking for aluminimum to process. I'm not sure if you can tell but, do you have 1-2 supplier to recommend? Congratulations for your CNC, quite impressive compared to mine 🙂
@DarkArtGuitars 3 күн бұрын
I got it from Debrunner Metallservice. They're quite easy to work with and inexpensive as long as you buy enough. There is a 50chf minimum for any size, so for smaller pieces you need to buy quite a few not to overpay. Otherwise there are a couple of Metalladen around where you can get smaller pieces that also often have a cutoff bin where you can get small pieces for the weight price.
@aconitic9984 Күн бұрын
@@DarkArtGuitars THX!
@vikaldebaran6462 3 күн бұрын
Du grand génie! Mais c'est quoi cet ordinateur de fou sur mur
@DarkArtGuitars 2 күн бұрын
thanks, The computer is my "Posthuman" build, I have a video series about it on my channel.
@jonm189 3 күн бұрын
That's a very impressive machine you've built there, well done!!
@mariusj8542 3 күн бұрын
It became a really nice machine. It’s just this balancing act of cost vs need. I understand you might have some income on your guitars that can defend the cost. But as an hobbyist using the frame from rat rig to 1900$ is not a bad choice either. Then buying AliExpress electronics I made something similar with 2.2 kw spindle ( but without the possibility for an atc/ perhaps using rapidchange ), nema34 hybrid steppers and fluidnc firmware/ software ( off course not as good and accurate as yours by far), but i ended up around 3500$ for the machine and 4000$ with a table in 4080. The problem is that the devil is in the details. I must say I envy you your leadshine motors, your Spinogy spindle and your Saunders mounting plate. Congrat on a great build!
@DarkArtGuitars 3 күн бұрын
For sure, for purely hobby this is way overkill. Also if I had to pay for every component out of pocket I would have gone with the 10k version I talked about after the cost breakdown. ATC definitely adds a few thousand to any CNC build, just the 10 tool holders in my case are over 2k retail price. You can get cheaper ones that are probably good enough for hobby but you'd still be looking at 500-1000 for a set of 10 with usable collets.
@mrechbreger 4 күн бұрын
Ist schon richtig cool so eine Maschine zu haben, vor allem wenn man sie hat kann man sie immer weiter erweitern... man ist also quasi nie fertig damit. Ich modifiziere immer noch meine erste konvertierte China Fräse und Drehmaschine und baue sehr spezielle Dinge dran, das spart alles zusammen eine richtige Menge Geld. Bei meiner 2. Maschine, eine restaurierte CNC habe ich dann aber gesehen dass es besser ist den alten Maschinen neues Leben einzuhauchen als größere Maschinen neu zu bauen. Es ergibt sich immer wiedermal dass Maschinen knapp vor der Verschrottung noch gerettet werden können und man so an Top Maschinen kommt (wenn man nur die Struktur bewertet).
@droneforfun5384 4 күн бұрын
Hi David, nice build! One question, if your table where you built the gantry & frame is not very flat, and your beams are not precision machined, and your linear rails are also not straight, how do you know that the machine will be good? I understand that maybe the aluminium extrusions are somewhat OK, but you really dont know if you dont have a reference surface. Building such a nice machine just to discover it only performs +-0,5mm or so would be bad. Perhaps there is a S-curve to the rails, or a bend in the extrusions. How did you deal with this? Thanks
@DarkArtGuitars 4 күн бұрын
I don't have the metrology equipment to properly measure this, but the profiles are remarkably straight. Of course not precision machined, but also machined profiles are only as precise as the machine they were made on. While I can't give you an exact number, the accuracy is definitely way better than +-0.5mm, probably closer to +-0.05mm which is plenty for the stuff I do. If I ever need more I can always go back and improve it.
@droneforfun5384 3 күн бұрын
@ good answer thank you. Have you heard if Masso are planning to introduce EtherCat in the future? The wiring process you did looked exhausting.
@DarkArtGuitars 2 күн бұрын
@@droneforfun5384 not to my knowledge, at least not anytime soon
@Winchestertonfieldsville 4 күн бұрын
Nice, grats bud.
@Winchestertonfieldsville 4 күн бұрын
Oh snap an ATC too, you fancyyyyy
@guitaranswerguy 4 күн бұрын
How long does it take the CNC to complete the neck? The body? I always see them sped up, so curious about the actual time lapse
@DarkArtGuitars 4 күн бұрын
On the old machine the body was about 30-40min per side, back of the neck maybe 30min. The new machine cuts that to 15-30min for the body per side and around 15-20min for the neck
@bobbynova7417 3 күн бұрын
@@DarkArtGuitars Oh nice--that's pretty quick then!
@xjstevie 4 күн бұрын
can you please show us more of your dustshoe bracket. i love the design..
@DarkArtGuitars 4 күн бұрын
Which part are you specifically referring to? The actual dust show part is very simple, just a channel for the brush to sit in, cutouts for the spindle and dust port, as well as magnets.
@iforce2d 4 күн бұрын
mmmmm..... very nice :)
@SimonWoodshop 5 күн бұрын
Awesome video! Very inspiring! Thank you!👍
@stamshop 5 күн бұрын
Nice video, I'm building my cnc with a Masso controller, I just released a video of step 1 of the build.. What size chain did you use? Thank you
@DarkArtGuitars 5 күн бұрын
25x50mm fully enclosed with 75mm bending radius
@filaxdiy 5 күн бұрын
Gorgeous Machine, David 🥳🥳
@iggie8144 6 күн бұрын
Nice machine but with that cost and time you would be better off financing a known proven machine and with a low monthly payment you would start making money on day one.
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
Depends, if there is a commercial machine that fits your needs and you can get good financing that might be a way to go. For me there were no comparable machines that fit my workshop and needs in this price range. Plus while I was wishing this project was done in half the time I do also really enjoy building CNCs, so that's definitely also a plus.
@iggie8144 6 күн бұрын
@ Definitely is hard to find a machine that fits the home shop. You did a very nice job building it and good luck with it.
@kevincinnamontoast3669 6 күн бұрын
16k,ripped yourself off buddy. Big fail.
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
To be fair 16k is the retail cost of the components, not what I paid. Also an equivalent commercial machine would be 20-30k easily, so I'm pretty happy with mine. But it's definitely not for everyone
@GENcELL2014 5 күн бұрын
I have a 2'x3' cnc router that is produced by a US company and has similar capabilities (has a full steel construction), it was around $18k for the cnc after all the add ons and upgrades from factory, shipping was a little more then $2k and it was financed which adds around $1k. $16k sounds about right...
@DarkArtGuitars 4 күн бұрын
@@GENcELL2014 yep, that sounds like the right ballpark and similar to machines I found in my research. Wasn't an option for me as my workshop is in the basement with access only by stairs, but great if you can bring in the machine on a forklift or pallet jack.
@Rubenscncmachines 6 күн бұрын
Maquina incrível, muito bem feita👏
@droneforfun5384 6 күн бұрын
Would like to see how it goes with the spoilboard
@droneforfun5384 6 күн бұрын
Spindle looks amazing. Dont high RPM result in higher tool wear? I was told >16k RPM was no good for the bits.
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
That depends a lot on the size of the tools you use. For larger bits you need slower rpm to get the same speed at the cutting edge versus the material. If you go too fast at the cutting edge you will cause more heat and premature failure. But as you reduce the tool size you need to increase the rpm to get the same surface speed, that's where high rpm can dramatically increase your possible cutting speed. The 16k rpm you mention would probably be about the max I want to run a 8-12mm endmill depending on the material, but with some of the tiny endmills I use for inlay work I would use 40k if I had it and still have less speed at the cutting edge than an 8mm tool at 16k.
@droneforfun5384 5 күн бұрын
@ thanks for reply. Your machine looks like a dream and video guide of it was right on point. Yes i see, the cutting edge distance from the rotation center dramatically changes the rpm requirement 😊 Do you know if this spindle can handle lower rpm with good torque for occationally steel milling? Is there any spindle/servo on the market that can deal with wood carving as well as ”ok” steel milling? I assume wood require about 10-40k rpm, but ideally steel milling would be best <10k bit with a lot higher torque ofcourse.
@DarkArtGuitars 4 күн бұрын
@@droneforfun5384 Yes, this spindle can also do quite well at lower rpm. I specifically went with the 4 pole winding option which gives more torque at lower rpm too. Now if you want to go demolish steel with a 12mm endmill you might want to look at a spindle with more raw horsepower, 2.2kw will only get you so far, but for more light duty work it will be perfect. You can also reach out to spinogy with your requirements and they will be happy to assist you to choose the right options as there are many different winding and power configurations possible with their spindles. You can also google Spingoy X22 or X30 manual and in there you can find the rpm vs torque and power curves for the various configurations.
@droneforfun5384 3 күн бұрын
@ oh I did not know Spinogy offers 4 pole winding, that is amazing if you want to do some ”mild steel” cutting now and then. The only drawback with Spinogy is the price.
@DarkArtGuitars 2 күн бұрын
@@droneforfun5384 yes, you are paying for made in Germany instead of made in China. If you don't absolutely need ATC, have a look at the QTC system, it's quite a bit cheaper and still has many of the benefits.
@RaulDelarosa-n6z 6 күн бұрын
Esto si es un cohete. Enhorabuena ,gran construcción
@planetofthepete 6 күн бұрын
Outstanding video - thankyou (... Well narrated, well structured - and with just the right amount of detail.) for info: I would like to know more about the tool changer - this isn't a feature of the CNCs at this size that I have been researching. It is refreshing to see this functionality.
@ericr.5477 6 күн бұрын
Great video, David . Many thanks!
@shentharo 6 күн бұрын
what a nice machine man
@Todestelzer 6 күн бұрын
The spindle would cost more than my cnc. And the cnc cost over 4K€ 😂
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
Same for me with my upgraded Killerbee I had before. :D
@JDMeister 6 күн бұрын
A bit underwelming considering the price point. One could get a RatRig Stronghold pro kit with a jianken jgl-80 spindle and get atleast 90% of the performance of that machine and still have enough money to buy a used car 😅
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
That is definitely a very valid option and quite similar to what I had in mind at first. I had considered the Stronghold Pro in the beginning of this project but there were enough things I wanted to change that eventually I decided to start from scratch. Things sorta snowballed from there. :D
@TheDIMONART 7 күн бұрын
How long did it take to make this router? From scratch to final result. Few months?
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
Around 6 months actively working on it. A few more months of planning before and years of dreaming :D
@clebermartinscnc 7 күн бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@modelmaker007 7 күн бұрын
Very nice job, look forward seeing videos of it cutting metal parts too.
@josepatron4950 7 күн бұрын
still curious if you figured out a way to accurately tune your y axis dual drive motors or if you feel that they are just working OK? I really want to use servos in future builds but just can't wrap my head around the "well they seem to be working well" vs. actually being able to tune them properly. I get the single motor axis drives where you can run the tuning program under actual load conditions, but the dual drive thing makes me crazy not actually knowing they are tuned correctly. I feel someone could make a fortune and sell a whole lot of servos if this could be figured out and not be so "witchcrafty"..... BTW, been following this whole build. You should be super proud of yourself. This is a beast of amazing enginuity. You really outdid most builds I've seen in KZbinVerse. BRAVO!!!!
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
I mentioned it briefly here, I tuned them by disconnecting one and making the gantry lighter. It's a hacky workaround but better than no tuning at all. I believe if you get the higher end servo drives they allow you to connect the drives together and work as one with communication between. This should also allow for them to be tuned together. Check out the Fiber Laser from Travis Mitchel, he uses that feature of the Leadshine drives. (Believe he has EL7 or EL8 instead of the EL6 I have)
@hannuhanhi183 7 күн бұрын
That is a serious CNC router. Well done Sir !.
@simonvongunten9288 7 күн бұрын
Eine sehr coole Maschine! Gratuliere! Ich habe meine auch vor 6 Jahren selber geplant und gebaut, allerdings eher in der Leistungs- und Preisklasse deiner Ratrig. Reicht aber für meine Zwecke völlig. Unter anderem liess ich mich auch von deinen Videos von damals inspirieren. Danke dafür! 😊 In deinem Fall ist es ja mittlerweilen weniger fürs Hobby, sondern für den professionellen Gitarrenbau, da lassen sich die Kosten auf alle Fälle rechtfertigen.
@Overit5000 7 күн бұрын
SIXTEEN GRAND 😮 HOLY SHIT! I’ll keep my $3k onefinity 😂
@ianwalton5761 7 күн бұрын
Your command of English is amazing, as is your machine.
@DavidR8 7 күн бұрын
Really an amazing build.
@phuqit 7 күн бұрын
I built mine (1900x790mm, designed myself from scratch) using Bosch-Rexroth extrusions, clearpath servos, original hiwin rails/ballscrews and mechatron 2.2kw (no ATC tho) and Smoothstepper for ~13k€. Feeds and speeds are comparable to yours. Then again, all the metrology equipment to actually tune it is probably another 1.5k€ :)
@Lionstarr86 7 күн бұрын
Nice
@scratchbuiltdesigns 7 күн бұрын
Awesome machine. Very well done 👍 For the fixture plate I have made very good experience with a 25mm thick POM plate with a 25mm grid of threads and alignment holes, combined with a 25mm grid vacuum channel for a 5mm foam cord. POM is durable enough and especially for woodworking the fixation bolts don't need to be tightened too crazy. It can be easily used with an MQL, in contrast to any woden spoil boards. But the best feature is the vacuum holding. Especially larger parts are so easy to be done. And with a VacuCard, VillMill, etc. also easy to make cut-outs and to mill slightly below the workpiece bottom, but not into the actual plate. So it is not a "spoil" board, but a true fixture plate...
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
Yes, POM is definitely also on my mind. My only worry would be how threads hold up over time, but worst case you could just install some metal inserts. I already got a vacuum pump, just need to get around to design some fixtures,... I'll definitely be asking you some questions about your setup when I start seriously planning. For now I have some guitars to build :D
@scratchbuiltdesigns 6 күн бұрын
@@DarkArtGuitars Anytime. Glad to support... Btw: my plate is like 2yrs old and still the threads are fine
@spinogy 7 күн бұрын
A very nice video and a good overview of your new machine. Have fun with it 🙂
@DarkArtGuitars 6 күн бұрын
Thanks guys, your X22 Spindle is what really takes it to the next level!
@HearGear 7 күн бұрын
This is totally awesome, i am using a Lead 1510 and it's working great for my needs, I am thinking about upgrading it to linear rails so I can get rid of those nasty nylon wheels. So far my very cheap Lead 1510 is close to 2000 Euros as of today.. overall I am happy with my machine, but its fun to watch machines like yours that plays in a totally different league, compared to mine. I am not feeling like the Businesscard scene in American Pshyco, I feel happy for you :D
@Mcorpmike 7 күн бұрын
love the build, made a cheaper version because i dint need more but yours is insanly good.
@atrumluminarium 7 күн бұрын
To solve the output level, try and find a broken SM57 microphone and salvage the transformer from it. It gives you more signal without amplifying much of the noise. I believe Shure use a 1:4 step up. On top of that, stronger magnets basically give you free output volume. Consider N52 neodymium magnets. :)
@fearlyenrage 10 күн бұрын
Info. i weiss jo nid was Du weisch... Es git doch Maschinengewindebohrer... I hoff hesch die au im Inventar. Mir sin in 1 Wuche 4 normali abgrisse sit em wäxel uf MGB bricht vellicht eine all 3 Mönet ab. Sone idee am Rande aber vellicht hesch jo die au scho gseh =) Kani nur empfehle. Falls mehr willsch mitem Luftnäbler willsch kühle, schloni vor legsch dr e Dampfabzuglüfter zue usem Jumbo. Und e 120mm Abzugsrohr. Das kasch usem Fenster hänge wenn d Fräsi lauft den verstiggsch nid grad im Zimmer ;) I ha mr e japanische Powerlüfter kauft gha vor paar Johr. Macht 2500qm in dr Stund, mini 30qm Bude isch dementsprächend schnell wieder "rein". Wird fett die Fräse ^^
@DarkArtGuitars 9 күн бұрын
Normalerwis fräs ich ned vil Alu, fasch nur Holz vo dem her isch mini Maschine meh uf das usgrichtet. Weni meh wot mit chüelig mache müssti als erstes au s spoilboard ned us MDF mache, das sugt sich susch schnell vole mit öl.
@fearlyenrage 9 күн бұрын
@@DarkArtGuitars Aha. Jo das isch denn sicher nötig suscht löst sichs uf. Darum au dr Dustshoe, jep mach Sinn ^^
@andiwijayas 10 күн бұрын
You're awesome!
@BryceWayne 11 күн бұрын
I'm just not impressed with any guitar "builder" who uses CNC machines. You're an a assembler. Easy.
@DarkArtGuitars 11 күн бұрын
Give it a try, I believe you'll find that the CNC doesn't really make it any easier than using templates and a handheld router.
@BryceWayne 10 күн бұрын
@DarkArtGuitars IDK how anyone in their right mind can say using a CNC to carve everything vs by hand isn't easier. But ok
@bakarenibsheut12 11 күн бұрын
Hi! Absolutely gorgeous guitar :) If you see this, just wanted to ask, how do you feel the Nova tremolo compares to something like a Floyd Rose for exteme Steve Vai style usage, especially its long term durability? I hear it's very light but I'm concerned about its sustain and how sturdy it is for heavy dive bomb usage long term, especially compared to the Sophia. I'm trying to choose between the Nova and the Sophia for a currently ongoing custom build and I'm used to a Floyd Rose on my current Ibanez JEMJR, so was looking for some perspective before I make my decision since the Sophia's much more expensive.
@DarkArtGuitars 11 күн бұрын
I am very happy with the Nova trem, it is simple but works. If you do dive bombs with the stings going loose though I would recommend the Sophia as on the Nova the strings can fall off the saddles when loose which can't happen on the Sophia.
@bakarenibsheut12 7 күн бұрын
@DarkArtGuitars Thanks very much! This is very helpful information.
@JeremyCook 12 күн бұрын
Per ~ 12:30 I thought you needed some other resistors for USB-C? Maybe that's only for > 2.0 specs?