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@coreyriddell1759
@coreyriddell1759 2 ай бұрын
This is the video i needed. I just got back quick scans of my first test roll of the 120, rated at iso 125 to 160 and it all looks crazy. Absolutely no shadow detail and thd highlights are gone. I haven't had time to go back and rescan myself to see what else i can squeeze out of the images but for now the film feels unusable to me. The couple images I shot in open shade in the evening are almost there but i can't color correct them to a point that feels natural in the slightest.
@lilywanderlust
@lilywanderlust 2 ай бұрын
Love this! So cool to see inside and how all the steps come together.
@Alex-Estilo
@Alex-Estilo 2 ай бұрын
Pronto voy a mandaros mi primer carrete y no termino de decidirme entre Frontier y Noritsu. Creo que probaré con el Frontier. A ver qué tal! 😌
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan 2 ай бұрын
Every other photographic company is pulling out of film - Fuji are pulling back, other companies are gone altogether - and Harman have decided to start making colour film? They ate NUTS! I like nuts, I think they deserve as much support as possible, I will be buying some 👍
@fernandas8296
@fernandas8296 2 ай бұрын
Hola!! Que lastima que ya no hay de estas máquinas analógicas en muchas ciudades! Una pregunta, la cámara que se utiliza como es? :)
@WillzyxTheZypod
@WillzyxTheZypod 3 ай бұрын
Your videos are outstanding. Please keep making them!
@micmojo
@micmojo 3 ай бұрын
crazy… i thought it was some kind of polaroid process… never thought there is a full lab in there 👍
@carmencitafilmlab_
@carmencitafilmlab_ 3 ай бұрын
It's crazy! Of course this means that it needs some maintenance, which is why street analog booths might give somewhat off results!
@mattwenn3159
@mattwenn3159 3 ай бұрын
I saw a quick interview with the R&D department and grainydays. They said it is technically ISO 123 or something like that but over all testing came to the conclusion it should be sold as ISO 200. Also worth noting it's experimental film and will be refined over time.
@nanoulandia
@nanoulandia 4 ай бұрын
The company itself (in a video interview) says the film is really 123 ISO. So closer to 100 than 200. I am shooting at +2/3 right now, still need to develop the roll and see. Trying it for the first time and after 25 years of not shooting film. Super excited regardless of what happens.
@RamsesTheFourth
@RamsesTheFourth 4 ай бұрын
I have it in my camera now. Should have looked at this video before I put the film in. I dont know how I would go about the scaning process. Because the companies that do it dont really disclose what kind of scanners they use.
@justcallmesando
@justcallmesando 4 ай бұрын
Este video me da tranquilidad después de ver mi primer rollo de Phoenix 200 con la Fuji Klasse. No fue mi culpa jaja
@lokiofsassgaard
@lokiofsassgaard 4 ай бұрын
Oh. I've been wanting to learn how to scan and edit my own negatives for a while. Well, I guess this is as good an excuse as any, because I can't possibly make my Phoenix scans any worse than what they were from the lab.
@alexanderaleksander4272
@alexanderaleksander4272 4 ай бұрын
This supposedly cheap film costs the same as PORTRA 160 in Paris (69 Euro for a pack of 5). I don't know why this one is presented as cheap. Furthermore, there is no film more summery than Portra 160.
@Raumweiter
@Raumweiter 4 ай бұрын
loved every bit of it.
@DominikMarczuk
@DominikMarczuk 4 ай бұрын
So good I found this video before putting my first roll of Phoenix 200 into the camera. I scan and process my negatives on my own so the colour issues aren't that big of a deal for me. The underexposure is though, and I can see that underexposing even by one stop is problematic. Would you say it's a good idea to shoot this film at ISO 100 and develop normally? I'm specifically asking about "developing normally" because I'm not sure the lab I develop negatives allows me to push/pull my film.
@JuanSewDLKS
@JuanSewDLKS 4 ай бұрын
My experience with One Hundred is that on more than one occasion the roll of film has not been properly sealed or has come with some defect that causes light leaks that cause red streaks to appear in multiple exposures. And they are not flashes of light from the camera, because it has never happened to me with any Kodak, only with respooled film like Reflx Lab or Cinestill. Apart from this fact, the frames that come out well are great. - Mi experiencia con One Hundred es que en más de una ocasión el rollo de la película no ha estado bien sellado o ha venido con algún defecto que causa fugas de luz que hacen que aparezca franjas rojas en múltiples exposiciones. Y no son fugaz de luz de la cámara, porque nunca me ha ocurrido con ningún Kodak, únicamente con pelicula bobinada como Reflx Lab o Cinestill. Quitando este hecho, los fotogramas que salen bien son geniales.
@VariTimo
@VariTimo 4 ай бұрын
I know that prices vary and it’s nice to a have this at 14€ with a different look and finer grain, but I think most people should really learn how to shoot Gold well. Once you have that down you can do so much with it and it’s still very affordable at a lot of places.
@timeandtides8701
@timeandtides8701 4 ай бұрын
Nikonos for sure
@foto5612
@foto5612 4 ай бұрын
Nikon FE. Nikon 801 s
@JuanSewDLKS
@JuanSewDLKS 4 ай бұрын
Maybe I'm being a little harsh or overly demanding, but... if in 1966 the Olympus Pen FT could be made (I say this one and not the Pen F, because it has light metering), with incredible interchangeable glass lenses with which get bokeh without problem, completely manual, supreme quality, original in its design hiding the pentaprism, with a clean and elegant design... it is impossible to be excited about this camera, which is inferior in absolutely everything (except the weight...) . I know we live in another era, but hey, we should try to get closer to the bar of quality and design that was set in the middle of the last century...
@carmencitafilmlab_
@carmencitafilmlab_ 4 ай бұрын
Of course, the problem is that the industry today is not even 1% of what is used to be back in the day. The same way we can't ask Harman to manufacture Portra400 on their first attempt of color film. To look at this a continuation of the past is the wrong perspective (sadly), but instead is a new beginning in an industry (film photography) that almost disapeared (died) 10 years ago and it's slowly coming back
@s_t_r_a_y_e_d
@s_t_r_a_y_e_d 4 ай бұрын
The chemists themselves said the actual EI is 123.5 in Grainyday's video
@carmencitafilmlab_
@carmencitafilmlab_ 4 ай бұрын
Uh! Didn't know that! Interesting!
@robinferand
@robinferand 4 ай бұрын
Question: can you change the settings of Frontier prior to scanning to maybe help with the over the top contrast?
@carmencitafilmlab_
@carmencitafilmlab_ 4 ай бұрын
You could try, and some of the late version of the Frontier software (MS01) can modify settings, but generally, the frontier apply very hard curves and contrast settings to the images. If you can figure it out let us know!
@robinferand
@robinferand 4 ай бұрын
@@carmencitafilmlab_ I don't have one, I was just wondering if there was some documentation to help labs. I know the lab I often go to has a fleet of Frontier so after looking at your video, I didn't ask for scans for my rolls of Phoenix and scanned them at home.
@GreenlifeFin
@GreenlifeFin 5 ай бұрын
Really nice photos, especially the diptychs! You gave really good tips, thank you.
@thedrunkweddingphotographer
@thedrunkweddingphotographer 5 ай бұрын
I for one am very disappointed in this camera. If memory serves, the Pentax Project promo videos kept emphasizing ease of use for beginners and the young crowd. Which a full auto focus point & shoot would have been the way go if you wanted to draw in so called beginners. Or something like the Nikon N55, a point & shoot SLR. You're gonna tell me things like zone focus and twin frame are things beginners are going to care about let alone even know about? That said, I will be buying one only to say, yes, I'm support the film community and want to see it survive, even if means purchasing a $500 Holga.
@spawnv2
@spawnv2 5 ай бұрын
good point.. but zone focusing is not that hard even for beginners, everybody with functioning binocular vision can learn to estimate distance in a short period of time.. metering and judging exposure i think it is more challenging. Also take into account that this project is to set a platform to the other cameras that could come if this one sell good... they said they are thinking a range of cameras up until a full SLR
@thedrunkweddingphotographer
@thedrunkweddingphotographer 5 ай бұрын
As a lab, you should have touched on the extra cost and headache it is to scan twin frame film.
@JuanSewDLKS
@JuanSewDLKS 4 ай бұрын
Well, precisely for them it is not a problem, their scanner can do it automatically without problems
@thedrunkweddingphotographer
@thedrunkweddingphotographer 4 ай бұрын
@@JuanSewDLKS clearly you've never used a commercial film scanner before. 🙄
@stephanweiskorn6760
@stephanweiskorn6760 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video 😊!
@WesleyVerhoevePhotography
@WesleyVerhoevePhotography 5 ай бұрын
Yessssss :)
@sirnubenegra
@sirnubenegra 5 ай бұрын
Amigo no agarres el lav mic. Va en el cuello
@sirnubenegra
@sirnubenegra 5 ай бұрын
What a waste of money bro.these kids just like the most useless and expensive garbage. Yes it's 500.00 dollars, plus the film and development. Just get a used Olympus micro 43 with a nice prime, and a pocket Kodak printer for 250.00 all together
@thedrunkweddingphotographer
@thedrunkweddingphotographer 5 ай бұрын
💯
@samuelefabbro
@samuelefabbro 5 ай бұрын
I'm going to buy this film camera. It's perfect for some projects. And hey man your videos look so stunning, and sharp. What camera are you using? Thanks
@carmencitafilmlab_
@carmencitafilmlab_ 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! It's the iPhone camera 🫡
@XATNEP1
@XATNEP1 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, interesting images from your photo walk. I ordered one, not because I am in need of another camera that takes film, I have plenty of them, but to ensure that this film project proves successful and that further cameras with different features can be built in the future. From the positive sales initially it looks like TKO and the team will have the opportunity to continue their film camera revival. I can't wait to see what they come up with in the future, until then I will have fun learning to play with the 17
@Fun-Photo
@Fun-Photo 2 ай бұрын
Eine Kamera die Spaß macht
@DirtyPlumbus
@DirtyPlumbus 5 ай бұрын
I was on the fence, but this sold me. I will buy it to honor the designer.
@yendor2043
@yendor2043 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this together.
@pmagsaibot
@pmagsaibot 5 ай бұрын
I think the camera is amazing camera. Though not for all! As a camera for documenting, for your family, to hand to friends etc it’s so nice because you don’t have to feel bad for wasted frames… It doesn’t try to be your RZ67 or your M6. It’s an advanced point and shoot luckily without autofocus!!! The perfect fit for me and I can’t wait for it to arrive.
@carmencitafilmlab_
@carmencitafilmlab_ 5 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more! :) This camera is fun to shoot and approaches new audiences as well!
@robblincoln2152
@robblincoln2152 5 ай бұрын
Wow-what a great interview! Now I understand the flathead screws. I’m more of a hex drive myself.
@slowbot68
@slowbot68 5 ай бұрын
Nice answers from the designer.
@michaelacookePDX
@michaelacookePDX 5 ай бұрын
Now I understand why the camera costs $500. Custom made screws.
@54LiNk54
@54LiNk54 5 ай бұрын
90% of the cost
@rjbiii
@rjbiii 5 ай бұрын
All these photos looked kinda out of focus?
@Joselockington
@Joselockington 5 ай бұрын
Yeah zone focus cameras are hard to get good focus on your just kinda guessing on if it’s in focus
@heresmyurl
@heresmyurl 5 ай бұрын
​@@Joselockingtonthat's almost as silly as the comment you're replying to
@davidkachel
@davidkachel 5 ай бұрын
I think Pentax had a real chance to contribute to the revival and preservation of film photography but instead, they chose to make a toy. Shame on you Pentax!
@VariTimo
@VariTimo 5 ай бұрын
It’s not a toy it’s just a camera for beginners. It’s very well made and it seems to work reliably with a very good lens. Spend some time researching the project. It’s the first step. And it makes sense because point and shoots are the first cameras dying but also the easiest access point for new photographers. This a camera for new photographers, not necessarily for people who already have their go to film camera.
@davidkachel
@davidkachel 5 ай бұрын
@@VariTimo The only thing lacking on this toy is a sticker that says, "Barbie". It is a joke, and Pentax should be completely ashamed of themselves.
@Jonahc-u6h
@Jonahc-u6h 5 ай бұрын
@@davidkachelyou certainly are not forced to buy. So; look for the Mint!
@slowbot68
@slowbot68 5 ай бұрын
looks like a beautiful camera to me (and I own several). I'm sure they will make one for advanced photographers soon. But it makes sense to make a beginner one first.
@robblincoln2152
@robblincoln2152 5 ай бұрын
@@slowbot68 exactly-think of this as the proof of concept. If the 17 does well it will open the door to greater risks and opportunities. Now that they have begun to rebuild their manufacturing capabilities, they can move on to more challenging, advanced cameras. Personally I am hoping for a 6x6 rangefinder or perhaps a revival of the 67 SLR.
@andreatonesi1908
@andreatonesi1908 5 ай бұрын
@joaquinperezgarcia5119
@joaquinperezgarcia5119 5 ай бұрын
Estupendo reportaje, felicidades y un saludo desde Pucela City
@christophscholz7484
@christophscholz7484 5 ай бұрын
It’s simply a software issue, given that the algorithms are not prepared for a purple base, isn’t it? It’s not the film itself.
@carmencitafilmlab_
@carmencitafilmlab_ 5 ай бұрын
Yes and no, indeed there is a software issue when it comes to parameters and how is expecting the values of the orange mask to be. But also there is the fact that Phoneix has significantly less layer than other color emulsions that affect the color rendering. So, yes and no 🙃
@relaxwithme3266
@relaxwithme3266 6 ай бұрын
This film looks like it has about 8 stops of dynamic range. How you can achieve a this in analog is mind boggling. That being said, I will still buy a couple rolls, if only to say thank you for there actually being a new stock on the market.
@anastasiafua
@anastasiafua 6 ай бұрын
Because of your blog article I bought the domke bag for my switzerland trip recently - I could see the outline of my rolls on one of the CT scanners in Doha but buying the bag meant no more asking hand checks! before buying this bag for years I’d get my poor film rolls scanned and I’d notice the shadows looking off and grainy. Good tip about overexposing because I do the same too. Glad you wrote the article but watching the video gave me some peace. Now waiting for my first two rolls of film to be developed 😅 thanks for sharing!
@KTKIRITO
@KTKIRITO 6 ай бұрын
Yo that's really cool
@MrOtelotestaverde
@MrOtelotestaverde 7 ай бұрын
Habéis probado a hacer proceso cruzado con esta película?
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 7 ай бұрын
I love that this film is not just just a Kodak/Fuji look-alike. As an artist I love the unpredictability. It is like surfing a wave. Sometimes it gives you joy, and sometimes it just dumps you in the water. My biggest worry is that Harmon/Ilford will replace this with a more "true to life" version that is very predictable, and then there will be no reason to choose it other than price. This film, on the other hand gives plenty of reason to choose it as a creative tool, much like choosing a Lomography film. Not so much true to life, as creative and stylized. Kodak and Fuji are bland, and unexciting in comparison. Phoenix is much more a roller coaster, with, as I would expect, results that range from blah to wonderful. You cannot cook something delicious without having the stove hot enough to burn the fingers :) I see lots of burnt fingers, but I also see some deliciousness.
@Brause_Market
@Brause_Market 7 ай бұрын
love it
@itakepicswithalightcapture
@itakepicswithalightcapture 7 ай бұрын
Love Kodak Gold in both 120 and 135. Only complaint is it likes to curl making it tricky to scan (for me).
@thedrunkweddingphotographer
@thedrunkweddingphotographer 7 ай бұрын
1:07 who was drunk!?
@wahiba
@wahiba 8 ай бұрын
Just got my first Phoenix film back. Rated by the DX at 200 in an auto camera. Scan myself Epson flatbed at 2400 dpi. Also cheap Lidl camera type. Really interesting results. Flatbed fine but pretty dense, except when using flatbed software and it came up different, auto correction unexpected. In the cheap Lidle, SilverCrest on label it looks like Lomo Redscale. So different. At least it is sold as experimental. I think they might be aiming for a wide latitude film for all the basic cameras now out there. 50 to 800 asa!! I am going to get some more and see how it works in a Lomo Sardina and a Pentax K1000. Hopefully I will get a shot at sunny Spain as well as dull rainy England. But I agree, the scanning difference is really interesting.