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@Em.A07 7 күн бұрын

Thank you,, What a beautiful shot

@3.5_to_5.5 2 күн бұрын

Thanks, I love watching him play!

@DavidBartosik 20 күн бұрын

WOW, the gentlemen is ambidextrous! "Mini tennis" is very a very helpful exercise if done correctly. For the longest, I didn't enjoy it, because I didn't know "the rules" and there weren't any videos explaining it. Now that I do, it still requires a partner that's on board, to truly benefit.

@3.5_to_5.5 20 күн бұрын

Updated version here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5zXZHtjlrekgtEsi=mhsKlRBsKQp_2B9C

@joelgoues 22 күн бұрын

very great

@joelgoues 22 күн бұрын

very great

@user-hu8iw6rb7k 24 күн бұрын

please alcaraze~

@3.5_to_5.5 2 күн бұрын

Coming :)

@ruggierojerolli 24 күн бұрын

Eager to see the next!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏

@danguee1 24 күн бұрын

2:11 MSc engineer here. The pen spins around its centre of frictional resistance - not its centre of gravity (perfectly flat pen, perfectly flat table). Your analogy is pseudo-science. If the tip of the pen were rough and sitting on rough material and the shaft were super-slidey, it would rotate around the tip.

@3.5_to_5.5 23 күн бұрын

Good point, .. our bench is very smooth and slippery.. great for sliding coffee cups 😀

@attybong 26 күн бұрын

he uses full western grip, that's why ..

@3.5_to_5.5 26 күн бұрын

Strong grip definitely.. at least strong eastern to semi western. Thanks for your comment.

@attybong 26 күн бұрын

@@3.5_to_5.5 no more atp player of this generation uses eastern forehand grip ..

@3.5_to_5.5 25 күн бұрын

@@attybong agreed 👍🙏

@HapticKinetics 26 күн бұрын

Wow, this looks like a #Series, dude! First Why, now How - so cool. Racket #Yaw/SwivelFlip around CoG .... this is #GOLD! Pronation next ... that could be #Diamond, can't wait! ;) You are almost as inspiring as Dr. Brian GORDON (he missed the #YawSwivel secret, though) and Chuck TOMLIN (the #swivel guy). Even more motivating, I would add ;) Currently I am a bit busy with 'exotic' WTA-FHs: straight-arm FHs of Leylah Fernandez, Emma Navarro and others, ATPtypeFH of Emma Raducanu and Jr. FEDerica. Hope to tackle the ATPtype3 FH 'secrets' by the end of this year, time allowing. You are such an inspiration, keep it up, bro! :)

@roberthaar 29 күн бұрын

Please describe injection of rear shoulder and arm in more detail. Sequencing?

@3.5_to_5.5 29 күн бұрын

Hi Robert: As ball descends to bounce.. Prep with protraction. 'High' rear elbow on prep. Right wrist cupped fwd (arched) Front elbow towards contact. Weight shift with rear 'throw'. May feel like you are throwing with both arms.. Hope that helps. 😊 Cheers Andy

@baguettedepain3975 29 күн бұрын

B-but Moratoglou said bent arm makes you lose power 😮 /s

@3.5_to_5.5 29 күн бұрын

There are many ways to hit a good forehand, depending on your attributes and style. 😊

@eddy147Tennis Ай бұрын

Lendl basically did the same

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Ivan, what a player .. 8 grand slams!

@DavidBartosik Ай бұрын

🤯 How do you come up with this stuff. It's like you have a PhD in tennis biomechanics.🐐

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Ha, thanks David, I think this was my most technical video and the longest to create, around 30 hours! I did tutor engineering at uni.. I have taught this technique to many students and it's amazing the difference it makes. Good for disc golf too!

@baccarani1507 Ай бұрын

great explanation, thanks

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@HapticKinetics Ай бұрын

Congrats for the interesting analysis video. I wrote a comment asking you to put the link to the 'Sinner FH slo mo' video in the description and hopefully add an End-title card with it, just as did with this video. Probably the comment was deleted due to the links provided :( Tks.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Done! Let me know if that's what you wanted :)

@HapticKinetics Ай бұрын

Extra like. Yes, greatly appreciated, for sure is a win-win! I guess you had to learn a new YT trick :) So, what's your take on Emma's FH vs Janick's?

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

@@HapticKinetics hmm.. would the suggestion of more long axis rotation be appropriate? 😅

@HapticKinetics Ай бұрын

@@3.5_to_5.5 you bit dangerous, eh? picking-up new stuff too quickly :)

@josevigil4619 Ай бұрын

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@mario3s7 Ай бұрын

Why you will finish the Racket at the rear side, it should be in froth. Because after the shot, you have to go back to the ready position, if your racket finish at the back, it takes time to go back to the ready position, that is a must. All Professional do the same mistakes, they copy each other, that is Wrong, watch the pro in 1920, they finish the Racket in front left side not in the rear side.

@mario3s7 Ай бұрын

Both forehand and backhand stroke are wrong, the Racket finish in front pointing to the lsky at the left side of players body not in the rear left side.

@trex1448 Ай бұрын

Kwon Soon Woo does this as well.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

He had a good win over Lloyd Harris in Busan. Has been injured?

@trex1448 Ай бұрын

@@3.5_to_5.5 Some injury but he had a huge public fallout after dating a smoking hot kpop star and throwing a tantrum against a Thai player in Thailand smashing racquet and refusing to shake hands after the match. The Korean public turned against him. He's been back playing again but haven't seem him around. For some reason Harris seems to not play well against Kwon.

@tehatte Ай бұрын

Pretty standard modern topspin forehand. Most ATP and even WTA players do this, with slight variations from each other’s.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Agreed.. I made this video as an informative reference for the competent club player aspiring to improve 👌 Cheers Andy

@user-jv9qz2bu1r Ай бұрын

how do you feel about supination of the serve?

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Yes, it's a thing, perhaps best described as external shoulder rotation, as per this Gemini article.. g.co/gemini/share/5cba7dc79790 Thanks for your comment!

@HapticKinetics Ай бұрын

'@@3.5_to_5.5 Cool. Could you pls also share the Gemini GPT 'FH Supination' prompted answer - the one included at the end of this video? Tks.

@tominhcuong306 Ай бұрын

Do most pros use their wrists in the backswing?

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Good question! I'm making a video about this soon.. The short answer is that as the player moves forward, the racket's inertia holds the racket back, so the wrist accommodates by rotating and extending back, while dropping due to gravity. (assuming a relaxed wrist). You can see the forward weight shift occur first in this video. But it can also have an active wrist-movement component! Thanks for your comment!

@k.h.3905 Ай бұрын

@@3.5_to_5.5 That's the key question! In nearly all Tennis videos about the modern Forehand is said that the racket lag is automatically created by bringing the hips forward and holding the racket loosely. Never happened with my forehand :-) Now we see that Jannik because of the take back position with a pronation of the wrist it is absolutely necessary to make a aktiv supination of the forearm to generate a hug racket lag.

@tominhcuong306 Ай бұрын

@@3.5_to_5.5 Yes, I think they have wrist supination motion so the racket head looks like that. If they had a wrist pronation motion to overcome the inertia and gravity of the racket head, it wouldn't be the same. This is not a classic forehand, so I think many pros will have wrist supination movements in the backswing.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

@@k.h.3905 Thanks for your comments.. it's a tricky question.. I have a video on this coming soon. 😀 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIGZiYl9aqZ9mbcsi=Z-3Dg76XtcmdIKlc

@markplumb3968 Ай бұрын

I must be missing something, everyone does this ( myself included ) Sinner of course does it his unique way, but again most have their own way of doing it …..

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Great that you do it.. Lower level club players hit further back, to the side, and miss the benefits of forward contact. It can turn a B grade forehand into an A grade forehand. Thanks for your comment!

@crosscourtrabbitcompletetennis Ай бұрын

It would help a great deal if you added audio (i.e., words that communicate what you want to say). Just makes the content easier to absorb. Otherwise, good stuff.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip! I have added AI audio into some of my latest videos. Thanks for your comments.

@Playtenniswithmathieu Ай бұрын

That’s why he finishes at the same level of the shoulder and not over as the common belief.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Not as easy as it looks.. 😅

@rsh8057 Ай бұрын

I'd be curious to see how the shot looks when hitting on the rise? Not off the bounce, but to deal w/ heavy spin and avoid being pushed back and making contact still at waist height. Is it the same take back/swing or simplified?

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Like backhands #3 & #4 here? kzbin.infoRe-8_POaRIw?si=H5cRi6K8FnpaTEJN Looks pretty much the same although #4 is slightly mis-hit. What are your thoughts? Stans so strong.. I would bunker down a bit 😅

@JanHoferTennis Ай бұрын

Well done 👍🏽

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Thanks Jan! 😁

@DavidBartosik Ай бұрын

Your analysis of my favorite player is sooo good! You get into such advanced concepts, it 🤯. I'm curious on your opinon of the right arm's role in his 2HBH. I sense it plays a big role, like a OHBH in the initial forward swing stage. Also curious on his FH if it's the same as in your Sinner's video of supination and pronation but im pretty sure it is. It's the last part I'm struggling with as I tend to whip the racquet around WTA style. PS: I also switched to a 2HBH because of T.E. While TE sucked I'm glad because it forced me to amke the change.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Hi David, thanks for your kind words! Yes the right hand plays a big part in the 2HBH both in the initial pull and also in the stability and lifting through contact . This is explained in my BH Power & Protraction and Alcaraz BH Features videos. Yes, the forehand supination/protraction is the same for Djokovic & Sinner. The forehand is quite technical. A high rear elbow takeback into an arm extension, followed by a forward weight shift is important (Sinner Supinate part 2 coming). My Kyrgios FH video may help you. Unsure what you meant re the 'last part' of your FH.. if you want to upload a video of your FH on YT I can have a look at it. cheers Andrew

@DavidBartosik Ай бұрын

@@3.5_to_5.5 Thank you for the insights. I meant this supination- pronation on the FH take back and launch is the last part I'm struggling to incorporate. My tennis partner has no trouble with this but can't explain it. She's been playing since 4yo and was a D1 player. I need to take the machine out for this... now that I understand it (thanks to you!) ☕☕ incoming. Talk soon. Thanks Andy!!

@roberthaar Ай бұрын

Very similar to the golf swing with respect to supination and external rotation. Leading with the hips, as in golf, critical to pull it all off. Excuse the pun.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Very similar concepts yes.. Showing students how to swing a golf club is a handy skill adjunct, as is frisbee throwing, juggling and yoga. 😊

@joseppi4cinqua Ай бұрын

The only reason he does it is for looks. He uncoils his arm before he swings so it doesn’t do anything for him.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

It really works! Like skipping a stone on water. 😊

@joseppi4cinqua Ай бұрын

@@3.5_to_5.5 ok

@narsimha1089 Ай бұрын

Is Sinner using wrist to rotate the racquet to get that flip which also pushes to elbow to achieve that position? Or he is getting that effect with forearm?basically I’m asking to get that supinating position he is using wrist or forearm rotation? Great video and explains

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Great question.. I think it's a combination of his forward weight transfer (& racket inertia), arm rotation and wrist.. all perfectly timed. What are your thoughts? 😃

@narsimha1089 Ай бұрын

Yep all,but I think he is exclusively rotating wrist/forearm and at same time pulling forward

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

@@narsimha1089 Video coming soon on this tricky topic .. 🙏

@quentincrisp6933 Ай бұрын

I would break my arm if I tried leading with my elbow like that! I wouldn't suggest this for anyone unless it's natural for you.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

A good coach helps a lot with advanced technique. Thanks for your comment!

@silv3r545 Ай бұрын

Nah the body would adapt to it

@mtlsquare Ай бұрын

A leading elbow helps delay the hand/racquet throw until the very last moment. The lack of power in forehand most of us experienced in our development years has something to do with the hitting hand overtakes the hip and shoulder too early. Thanks to Sinner's forehand, for me personally, I finally understood the sequence to achieve effortless power: very loose grip, hip drive, gentle racquet throw with a leading elbow, long extension through the contact, high elbow finish. The feeling is almost magical and the ball feels very light. For the forehand, the elbow movement is the key, where the kinetic chain breaks down most often.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Nicely put! Yes, it feels like magic! Delaying the contact increases time for force application & acceleration, good idea for another video!.. thanks for your comment!

@HapticKinetics Ай бұрын

Great description of "Maintaining the LAG": 'A leading elbow helps delay the hand/racquet throw until the very last moment '. Supination is one of the keys for "Creating the LAG" but is the the Elbow that really keeps the External Rotation activated until right before "Releasing the LAG", via External Rotation and Pronation ("Long-axis rotation: the missing link in proximal-to-distal segmental sequencing" ). Like spreading butter on toast, you mean?! :) 'The feeling is almost magical and the ball feels very light. '

@sylvestervoigt9836 Ай бұрын

I can see it all go down now, Sinner Opens up the Racquet Face, He is putting 'Soup in It' or Supinate

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Haha, no doubt it would be Stracciatella..

@fearsomebunny Ай бұрын

LOL. Guaranteed tennis elbow if your timing is off and/or your forearm isn't muscular enough to execute this. Excellent reference video for 4.0+ USTA level players. Also it won't work unless the ball hit to you carries a certain level or pace/spin. IMHO.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Hey, great comment.. tennis elbow is a risk.. so important to emphasise the hip, core and shoulder connection for the drive. Any elbow pain is a warning. A 60 yo student hit several 80 mph topspin FHs recently, from dropped balls, using this technique.

@heiyiplee2800 Ай бұрын

A clearly demonstrated important forehand element.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Oh thanks! I enjoyed making it. Took about 20 hours to refine and keep it concise and uncluttered 😂

@ruggierojerolli Ай бұрын

So right!

@treplay8846 Ай бұрын

Elbow very close to body...or is it the camera angle

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Not super close.. Yeah the camera angle and also the fact that the rear hip has come around and closes the apparent gap. Can see this with Djok here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaixiaN_oad3jrcsi=s91zscBjGWmxHEv4 Thanks for your comment!

@thurlestonetennis2447 Ай бұрын

Nice to see an under reported technique explained. Presumably the elbow leading helps keep the racquet stable through contact for a longer time?

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Yes, it facilitates forward contact which is supported by body weight, the shoulder and the structure of the body. This is very strong. Plus the momentum built up in the racket can overcome the ball's momentum .. (both linear and angular). Thanks for your comment! 😃

@gooru4speed Ай бұрын

great great great video! Thank you!!

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@mattcarlson8262 Ай бұрын

Wzll done.... I would add too, that Sinner's material helps as well, his older racket apparently modified with weight and today's stings are so important. Bravo for your excellent video.

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Good points 👌 Being 1.88m tall is handy too 😅

@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Ай бұрын

He is probably actually 193 cm@@3.5_to_5.5

@rogeriocrispim Ай бұрын

What an awesome display of good content crammed in a tiny format. So pleased go have found this. A gem of an analysis. Thanks for sharing!

@3.5_to_5.5 Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your comment. 😃

@3.5_to_5.5 2 ай бұрын

Previous gen FH 😊

@3.5_to_5.5 10 ай бұрын

And .. keep the hitting wrist cocked & flexed slightly 😊

@3.5_to_5.5 Жыл бұрын

Feel the hips pull you into the court as you hit. 🎾 😊

@obaidfarghani9202 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing share - thanks a lot - u r the best 👏👏👏👏 I exactly have this problem 😀

@3.5_to_5.5 2 жыл бұрын

I had this problem too! 😀 Let me know if it helps..

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