btw, powerrack is suppose to come with a new model in 2025 that can support wider panel widths up to 46"
@johnpeter3663 күн бұрын
i like that setup, could even store some firewood under them instead of dirt why did you leave the gaps between panels? Thanks
@DiySolarHelpDesk3 күн бұрын
That is the minimum gap required by the racking system. The post is 2" square, and the clamps stick out on both sides of each post. Also, the problem with wood is that you don't know what it actually weighs, and the individual logs can get blown away, reducing the ballast. This was designed for a 90 mph wind speed. Lift forces increase by the square of the wind speed! It requires about 600 lbs per solar panel.
@johnpeter3663 күн бұрын
@@DiySolarHelpDesk good point, thanks. Did you need a building permit?
@DiySolarHelpDesk3 күн бұрын
@@johnpeter366 Yes, and engineering stamps were required. The local AHJ relies on others to verify the design and the work. They don't take responsibility for knowing the code themselves.
@Moes_Prep_and_TechАй бұрын
i just wish there was a way to get that rack a little more off the ground. I get a lot of snow
@DiySolarHelpDeskАй бұрын
You can build up a mound of gravel as high as you like and use gravel as ballast too. Otherwise, I have APA Ready Rack Kits with ground screws, but they are not low-profile.
@cgutowski471Ай бұрын
Any further in depth videos coming for this inverter?
@DiySolarHelpDeskАй бұрын
Yes, when I get around to them. What would you like to know? You can schedule a call. Let's talk!
@cgutowski471Ай бұрын
@ I spoke to you months ago and you said you will have more content on these inverters and batteries, unfortunately no content was produced.
@ToddDesiatoАй бұрын
@@cgutowski471 I'm old. Making videos is not my forte. It's been a busy year, double what I did last year. Gotta do what I gotta do! Again, what do you want to know? Hoymiles inverters just work. They're easy peasy, like a toaster.
@cgutowski471Ай бұрын
@ My power company does not yet have anything favorable for grid interconnect but may in the future so looking for something flexible and off grid, only grid to charge batteries at low soc. Can these work in true off grid and only charge or pass through grid power, never in hybrid/parallel mode?
@DiySolarHelpDeskАй бұрын
@@cgutowski471 Yes, it has Pure Off-Grid Mode, and I can pre-program inverters to be plug-and-play upon arrival.
@jeffscott96852 ай бұрын
Do you have to do much leveling before hand?
@DiySolarHelpDeskАй бұрын
No, you can use ground spikes to adjust and lock the height of each rack to offset an uneven grade.
@keithshumaker64022 ай бұрын
I think ground mount is the way to go it’s where you can take care of them
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech2 ай бұрын
I wanted to get a Large Ground Mount that I can stack panels up 2 high but I might go the route your taking and just get 550w panels instead
@Greenwashedhipppie4 ай бұрын
Great video. I believe you said 3 inverters can be wired in series. Is that it? Just 10 gage wire ran to the combiner box or straight to the solar disconnect. Can these be islanded during a power outage ?
@ToddDesiato4 ай бұрын
Hi. Yes, very simple to install. No, they are not off-grid. They do not operate without the grid being present. That would be a safety hazard, since there is no transfer switch in a microinverter.
@JacksonBandons-r2o4 ай бұрын
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@imacmacnerd4 ай бұрын
Hi, I like your ground mount. Would you kindly share the brand or website for this ground mount please?
@bluetrader5854 ай бұрын
how do you like it?
@ToddDesiato4 ай бұрын
I love them! I've had my own installed and they work way better than Enphase. I've sold nearly 300 of them and there are no failures and 100% happy customers. They work great and are the easiest to install. What more can I say. The price on my web store is the lowest it's ever been. Enjoy!
@bluetrader5854 ай бұрын
Very smart!! I NEED HELP :) What is your email?
@ProMace5 ай бұрын
Interesting! Do you know whether an APsystems EZ1-M can be hooked up directly to a 48 V battery?
@ToddDesiato5 ай бұрын
I haven't tested it, but it should work if you pre-charge it before connecting the battery.
@ProMace5 ай бұрын
@@ToddDesiato Thanks for the quick reply! I've read many comments in the meantime and some say that a 48 V 50 A capable battery would likely 'fry the inverter'. Is this something to worry about? When I chose micro-inverters for my PV setup, I made sure they wouldn't cap the max. power output of the solar panels. So based on that I know a micro-inverter will probably limit the current inflow from a battery by design, but naturally I'm looking for safety first. On a side note: I like the modular concept of micro-inverters, for one you don't have a single point of failure and it's better scalable. In the Netherlands there is a company called HomeWizard who have picked up on this principle in the context of battery storage and they're actually launching their _Plug-In Battery_ which is basically a cost-effective AC-coupled design: www.homewizard.com/nl/plug-in-battery/ This 2.7 kWh battery storage unit can be plugged into any normal wall socket and will charge/discharge at 800 W max. which is within European regulations. People will be able to use more than one of these and then 'software unlock' the batteries to effectively operate in parallel (so 2 batteries at 1600 W charge/discharge and 5.4 kWh energy capacity etc.). For sure they're using a micro-inverter in this device, the big question is what they've done to make it battery-compatible, if anything.
@imbiffia41946 ай бұрын
Hi, I saw your video, could you tell me which charge regulators you used? Or what characteristics should it have? Thank you
@johng80496 ай бұрын
very easy system to set up no combiner boxes and conduit for all the wires. one of my concerns is if they go out of biz and one of the mico inverters goes bad you are going to be rebuilding the whole thing because its a very proprietary set up . I am looking building my own ground mount system the order of 9kw system 25 or 30 panels but have not decided what system i want to do yet. The Hoymiles is in the top of the list.
@ModernMiningHub8 ай бұрын
Nice setup Todd! Do you know of any videos that show how to hook up the AC power end to the home? That is the only thing I remain confused about! Thanks for the great content!
@ToddDesiato8 ай бұрын
It depends on what type of service and meter panel are installed at your home, and depends on the size of the system to be installed. There are many options available. We usually work all that out as we do the permit plan set. It is typically required to hire an electrician to connect the solar to your main service panel. That part is not DIY unless you're qualified to do that kind of work.
@ModernMiningHub8 ай бұрын
@@ToddDesiato understood, that makes sense!
@ahmadshuibghazali25548 ай бұрын
Can from battery to microinverter using the dc to dc converter to regulate the voltage and low the output amp
@ToddDesiato8 ай бұрын
Look at some of the earlier videos where I tried this. Yes, it works but the dc to dc converter is unstable. The frequency varies all over the place due to the 120Hz ripple current pulled by the inverter. The HMS-500-1T-NA can connect directly to the battery and you use a DTU, and a meter with RS485 to control the output.
@deyumei79657 ай бұрын
@@ruslanwel Did you use the resistor in your circuit?
@deyumei79657 ай бұрын
@@ruslanwelwhat issue did you have when using the DC-DC converter?I am thinking about the same setup but I am going to use it daily It seems like drawing power from the battery will make it run at its maximum output continuously and it's not designed for that. Do you have any tips or suggestions ?Thanks
@BlueThailand9 ай бұрын
I am disappointed with the HMS-2000-4T First, we cannot do full settings and monitoring on our own. Hoymiles put customers in a captive market with the reseller. This is not specified when buying Second and the worst, i have regular problems about the connexion between the micro-inverter and the DTU. Result ? No more monitoring and need to call the reseller Third, it is impossible to get the production datas from the inverter or the DTU as an exported ASCII or JSON or XML file. I really hope some improvements about these 3 topics
@ToddDesiato9 ай бұрын
The only ones disappointed are the ones who want independent monitoring. It is possible, we have a solution for that. However, I've got 100% happy customers who have purchased the HMS-2000. It is a good, reliable inverter that never fails to produce power.
@benkanobe750011 ай бұрын
What cable did you use there? Was the end connectors already on? Did you create that yourself? Please explain.
@benkanobe750011 ай бұрын
I asked on the other video but I have more questions now: Did your Hoymiles inverter come with the tools and such? Did it come with the trunk cable? I purchased this one from a place in Arizona: "Hoymiles HMS-2000-4T HMS 2000W 4 Module Microinverter" and it didn't come with anything. Did I screw up? (I have four, 450 watt panels)
@benkanobe750011 ай бұрын
I purchased one to test it: "Hoymiles HMS-2000-4T HMS 2000W 4 Module Microinverter" which is supposed to come preconfigured at 240VAC which is what I need. I am just doing 4 panels at 450 watts each. Mine did not come with the trunk cable. It came with no cable. Did I purchase the wrong one? I purchased from a company in Arizona. Where do you recommend I purchase from? Can I just purchase a connector and use my own three conductor wire? I need advise. Thank you!
@DiySolarHelpDesk11 ай бұрын
Hi Ben, I have the cables in stock at themicroinverterstore.com. Hoymiles warranty is contingent upon using their cable.
@benkanobe750011 ай бұрын
@@DiySolarHelpDesk Thank you for all I learned today watching you add the Hoymiles. I just ordered the trunk from you. I was going to express ship but there was not an option. I look forward to receiving it soon. Thanks again for getting back to me so fast. I will order my additional inverters and stuff from you after I set this up and play with it. I want to order the White wireless gadget as well to monitor my set up and will do that. John in Fallbrook
@EastyUK Жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks! See any issue just snipping the AC plug and wiring it directly into panel. It looks like a nice setup with many connceted up, but I'm only using 2x 2000w unit and don't mind snipping the wires to save 50-60$
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
Code requires a disconnect switch, then into the panel. Make sure the breaker in your panel is positioned correctly for the 120% rule.
@EastyUK Жыл бұрын
@@ToddDesiato Cheers mate, yeah, I intend a disconnect, question was more about skipping the AC trunk and just snipping the cable coming directly out of the micro inverter, guessing it's not got anything smart in there i'd be deleting. I'm off grid, though it's good to plan incase I ever, I should be only using 16amp, probably 30% less in reality.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
@@EastyUK The only issue is it would void the warranty.
@ziganagode Жыл бұрын
Im confused. so can microinverter run directly from battery or not? withouth the resistors? Thanks
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
This one cannot, because it will exceed the Isc rating of the 350W inverter MPPT inputs. However, the HMS-500, 1000, and 2000, can run directly from a 48-56 Vdc battery. The limit is 25A. It's just not covered by the warranty if it fails.
@deyumei79657 ай бұрын
@@ToddDesiato Hello Todd, I recently came across a discussion online about the Enphase microinverter and its resistance fault check during startup, which requires detecting a certain resistance to function correctly, potentially preventing it from operating if the power comes directly from a battery. Do you think the HMS microinverter doesn't have that resistance fault check and that's why it worked? I am trying to set up a circuit like this to off-set my peak hour use during afternoon, do you think it will work in long terms? Thanks!
@ProMace5 ай бұрын
@@ToddDesiato How about the APsystems EZ1-M/H?
@mattiabelatti30973 ай бұрын
I've got an HMS-350, I plugged It to a 24v battery and It's fried now. Probably i'd to use a resistor. Waiting for the reparation. I'm assuming of using the LOAD output of a mppt to Power up the inverter. Somebody have tried It?
@rvanbeau2009 Жыл бұрын
If at all possible I would rather just leave the gravel in the bags. Just cover the bottom layer with loose gravel for drainage.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
I didn't use the bagged pea gravel. I used #56 crushed stone, about 1 cu-yd for the first 4. Then another 2 cu-yd for the next 8, and I used CMU half-blocks for the last 4. The half-blocks installed much faster, were easier to move, and resulted in a much faster installation.
@anilgargsfo Жыл бұрын
This is clever, Todd. The CMU blocks should offer more defused light recovery on the back side of the biracial. Cheers!
@bobmonztr Жыл бұрын
50A plug 240 @ 37.5=A gen ,should be able to charge 100A @48v So far works ,and quiet until the amps are over 50 either way The current generator is weak so I have to change charge current every time (6k gen can only get 60A @48v another gen on the way dbl output
@BlueThailand Жыл бұрын
Hello, Please could you tell us the details about brands and models of the solar panels I would like to buy HOYMILES but i don't know which solar panels to chose Thank you
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
As long as the Voc is <55 Vdc, and the voltage is greater than 22V, they are compatible. For the HMS-2000-4T-NA, they range from 320W - 670W solar panels. Ideally, 450W-550W.
@BlueThailand Жыл бұрын
@@ToddDesiato Thank you for your answer. Finally, i selected LONGI 550W Tier1 solar panels. Will be installed soon
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
@@BlueThailand They would work well with the HMS-2000!
@christopherbosse4754 Жыл бұрын
FYI: I measured about .2A current though the DC lines of the EG4 Chargeverter with the DC breaker on. (The Chargeverter was not plugged in to AC). With batteries at 54.3VDC, that's almost 11W parasitic draw. For the 17 hours not charging, that would be 185W consumed from the batteries. I thought to measure the current after watching a KZbinr drain their batteries by leaving the chargeverter connected with DC breaker on.
@rickykhiani7088 Жыл бұрын
Have you installed it would like to see it in operation
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
Net yet, waiting on wire and the utility shutdown so I can update my main breaker and solar breaker to accommodate a 60A circuit breaker and comply with the 120% rule.
@JoshuaAberle9 ай бұрын
When will you do the full evaluation?
@mandytuning Жыл бұрын
If you install it without registering on the app, will they still work?
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
Yes, as long as the AC and DC is within range, they work.
@anilgargsfo Жыл бұрын
Hi Todd: Great video showing the simplicity of the commissioning.
@PsChanwit Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in boards. Can I contact you via email? I live in Thailand
@andrewsimmering9471 Жыл бұрын
Hey Todd! Looks great, those panels look familiar ;) It took me about 90 minutes to do four panels and one inverter up on my roof (including wire management and water breaks). Ground mount definitely looks easier. I'm curious to see what numbers you get out of those panels.
@DiySolarHelpDesk Жыл бұрын
Yesterday, I saw them output 515W for a time long enough to capture one data point in the 15-minute interval data. At that time, the sun was refracting and reflecting through the clouds providing irradiance greater than 1000W/m^2. Nice!
@semirauthsala6001 Жыл бұрын
Never purchase anything from this fraudulent company. I purchased a few Pylontech batteries from them with a 6-year warranty. But after one battery cell got defective, they just refused to replace it and even blocked me from the Alibaba platform. Later, I contacted the battery manufacturer, and they confirmed that indeed, this company is not an authorized reseller of Pylontech products. The same may apply to all their other products, such as inverters and batteries. The person behind this, Denny Wu, is a scammer, and you won't get any refund in case of a defective item.
@KenSentMe- Жыл бұрын
How about simply adding configurable BMS to limit the current?
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
It would make the BMS run hot, but it will work I think. I don't have one to try it.
@KenSentMe- Жыл бұрын
@@ToddDesiato The BMS could be oversized and run it only i.e. at 50% rate to keep it cool(er).
@DiySolarHelpDesk Жыл бұрын
@@KenSentMe- With that configuration, you would need a BMS for each microinverter. I just need a couple of resistors and a MOSFET. I have boards designed, but now I have Hoymiles Hybrid inverters HYS series on order. I don't need this anymore.
@MrRichBenn Жыл бұрын
Jerky camera - didn’t finish, as it wasn’t showing what’s important.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
I actually got an extra 10 kWh! It's doing 35kWh/day. Tilt matters.
@awesomedee5421 Жыл бұрын
WARNING. Received mine DEAD ON ARRIVAL. Now they want me to only give me STORE CREDIT and some lame excuse that it is NOT COMPATIBLE WITH A 48V LFP RACK MOUNT BATTERY. AND THEY WANT A RESTOCKING FEE?!?! I just want a working unit. What a lame excuse they gave. NOT happy with Signature Solar and probably will not buy from them again.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
Did you open it up and push the 2 modules back into place? They get unplugged from the board during shipping. You simply push them to the right and they will snap back in and it should work. The bracket that holds them is too thin and bends when dropped in shipping, allowing the two charger modules to come loose from their edge connectors.
@awesomedee5421 Жыл бұрын
@@ToddDesiato Yes I did.
@awesomedee5421 Жыл бұрын
I didn't open up the unit, but I checked to make sure that the two power supplies are in. I wasn't sure if opening it up voided a warranty or anything.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
@@awesomedee5421 I've never seen one fail after shipping. Usually, it's just a lose connection. Ask if you can open it up, or send it back for an exchange. It's a good unit. Mine worked great once I seated the module properly.
@awesomedee5421 Жыл бұрын
@@ToddDesiato I've seen one. I already tried wiggling the wires and also tried eating the two power supplies. One did seem to be slitly out, but I pushed both in as best I could tell. I didn't want to open the unit until I got an ok from the company in writing since they seem to be blaming me for the problem and that I've done something wrong. My unit doesnt work, and the some staff doesn't seem to have a clue. Now I'm told by Signature Solar staff that I can't charge a 57V battery with a 48V charger. They seem clueless what the problem is and what is going on and it's very annoying.
@anilgarg57 Жыл бұрын
Hi Todd, Does it do split phase 240v?
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is split-phase, 120/240V output.
@anilgarg57 Жыл бұрын
Super. Will it also control what rate / how much energy is put back on the grid.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
@@anilgarg57 Yes, you can program a lot of things.
@anilgarg57 Жыл бұрын
So can it service 5k from battery and say 4k from grid. Total 9k?
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
@@anilgarg57 No, it can output 5kW continuously regardless of the source. There is an 8kW model and a 10kW model if you need more than that.
@matthewtang9290 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting product. Did you have to obtain a structural permit from your JHA? I noticed that your wiring between panels wasn’t contained within conduit. I think you should consider using some sort of conduit to protect wires. Your JHA performing the electrical permit inspection might not approve.
@DiySolarHelpDesk Жыл бұрын
It did require a building permit, but in some jurisdictions, it is not required because it is less than 28" above grade. You need to check with your local AHJ. The cable is type TC-ER, which is rated for sunlight exposure, exposed runs, and direct burial. Conduits are not required. Each branch circuit is protected by a 30A breaker, and the cables contain a protective ground wire. It's the best solution for DIY and saves a lot of time and $$$.
@a.mirmousavizadegan7962 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use microinverter on a off-grid system ?. I have off-grid greenhouse and I would like to use it to generate require power and batteries as backup only.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
It does not operate off-grid. It will run in parallel with an off-grid inverter that is listed to UL1741SA or SB, and has IEEE 1547 2008 or later.
@a.mirmousavizadegan7962 Жыл бұрын
@@ToddDesiato Thanks. I was thinking to activate the microinverter, I can fake the grid by using a pure sine ware inverter higher than my load requirement.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
@@a.mirmousavizadegan7962 Yes, but that pure sine wave inverter must be rated for this or it will blow up. Which means, it must have UL1741 SA or SB, and must be 1547 2008 or later. Otherwise, that inverter will go bang!
@a.mirmousavizadegan7962 Жыл бұрын
typo: Your audio is hard to hear, Please redo the video... thanks..
@a.mirmousavizadegan7962 Жыл бұрын
Your audio is hard hear, Please redo the video... thanks...
@jamesskempjr9879 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried it yet?
@jl9678 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed- how do you have the hoymiles set up for zero export?
@DiySolarHelpDesk Жыл бұрын
Using a WattNode meter to monitor the input power from the grid, it communicates with the Hoymiles DTU-Pro and throttles the inverters to avoid export.
@jl9678 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@patyp.7401 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your informative video. We have the boxes we would like to install them in rows of eight panels. Our panels are 250 W used panels. When we purchased the boxes we did not realize that the solar panel cables are not long enough to connect to each othe when the panels are installed horizontally bummer! Any suggestions on what can be done to make the cables longer so that they could connect to each other in parallel 🙏
@trumpingtonfanhurst694 Жыл бұрын
boy ballast has all the advantages but it just seems kinda sketch - those panels get a good wind under and and I'm thinking a couple blocks ain't gonna stop a sailing expedition, but I could be wrong, I'm sure they're tested.
@ToddDesiato Жыл бұрын
At 10-deg tilt it's not bad. This system is rated for up to 115 mph winds! The maximum historical wind speed recorded in this area is 92 mph.
@Sparkeee1978 Жыл бұрын
You can hook up a relay with an exterior photocell control as well.
@Dagreenberg68 Жыл бұрын
You gotta love a video where the person uses one hand to hold the camera, and then the other hand to do something usually not very well