very mindful very demure

I actually came back after 7 years right after the bots were eliminated and didn’t even know. It’s been a lot of fun.

Wow

I LOVED TF2, it is the only competitive multiplayer game I have ever enjoyed. But the botting/cheating/griefing problem has kept me away from the game for about 5 years. I only even came to this video because I had a dream last night about playing the game and it made me nostalgic from all the fun I had playing for over 10 years. I'm just no longer willing to have my good time ruined by those things. I would rather lose a million games because my team couldn't quite get the job done than lose because people were cheating or my team was intentionally throwing just to upset their teammates. Even private servers aren't immune. I don't know if the game can be healed and bring back players who walked away like I did

This is what content should be. This is actually amazing. I feel like I'm watching a video in the past. You've got another sub!

i ain't watching all that! :D

Little did we know shortly after the huge impact that savetf2 had did they push out the best thing to ever grace us tf2 players

I'm still somehow subbed after the Jacob something I forgot his name days. Damn that was a long time ago

It’s a good day when there’s new wobbler content

1. If valve shut down tf2 there would be a boycott on valve products. 2. The save tf2 hashtags did nothing. Valve was building a case against the bot creators, ive seen this a lot in the business world, For example, many supermarkets build cases on return shop lifters, when i was 13 i got caught stealing, they brought me to a room, and actually had a disc with recordings of me stealing 8 other times...lol. thats was loooooooooooong ago, In the digital world, you cant just sue everyone, it would be too costly, This is why in court rooms they go for the "top dog" of a group, it takes less lawyers and money to sue for all the damage in one go, Its likely valve launched an investigation, likely paying proffessionals (we couldnt dox them, but we work for free, these businesses are far more capable at investigation than us) I believe valve is quietly building a court case, the hackers were charging money for the service so they likely want to cash in on this. There is nothing to save on tf2. The game is balanced. People are habing fun and not forcing the server to stay open. . Any more begging from valve and youll get ea ubisoft tf2

Yes you are all weird. And dont wirry, most of the complain players are new to tf2. The og players understand the importance of crits, understand the extension of what each class can do, And understands pyro was overbuffed in the pyroland update, (i was a pyromain before that update, and i taught people the true meaning of what pyro can do hahaha) but so many people complained.... If youre wondering why pyro burn lasts so long now, and can sometimes sap alllll your health, Thank the players begging valve to answer what changes they wanted. Mostly people who xD cant airblast

i know im late to the party but this is a very well made video mr wobbler and i really resonate with it, genuinely amazing

“[X game] BROKE THE GAMING INDUSTRY!!” “[Video essay KZbinr] this is the fifth time this week you’ve said a game has broken the gaming industry in class!!!”

You know its bad when overwatch is in a better state than tf2 atm. cope all you want but its true. Ive never faced any bot hackers in such a massive swarm in overwatch in the 8 years its been out

Hearing you share the little things you've enjoyed about the game made my day--and was a great, much-needed, positive way to end your video. 6:50 reminded me of a recent story about a subclass one of my best friends and I invented together. We were playing Casual shortly after the 64 bit update which paused the bots for a little while. We ended up on Dustbowl which is my friend's least favorite map, so we decided to have fun with it. We played battle engineers with his notoriously horrible primary: the pomson 6000 and tried to get kills with it. Whenever we got a kill or died, we would just say "pomson" in text chat. We unintentionally created an entire team full of pomson engies and even people on the other team would reply "pomson" after we killed them. It was legendary. Your point about how there is still fun to be had with this game couldn't be more true. I relate to feeling like you missed out, I started playing in 2013 after some of the biggest updates Tf2 ever had like the medic or WAR updates. It warms my heart that you're having so much fun with the game. Despite some colorful people trying to sabotage the game, Tf2 is a wonderful game at its core, and there really aren't any others quite like it. I'm glad you're having fun, and I hope that you continue to have a great experience. Great video!

Today i found a class wars match in casual where Legit everyone was playing spy and kicked players for playing any other class it was amazing

We crossed 300k signatures lol

I would feel bad for the community... But I have been bullied and insulted by so many of them to the point that I don't want to help. All because I would mess up on something. This was years ago, but it still stuck with me. Maybe lock down made me really volatile? I don't know. Cant wait for all of the angry comments... Go ahead.

There is the mercenary badge with a saying "you are late to the party but still the life of it". I wonder if bots get those. Kind of ironic.

I joined tf2 during 2023 scream fortress

I just started it like 7 months ago and yeah I feel the pretty much same way

I don't think tf2 makes that much money for valve compared to their other products like CS and especially Steam at the same time, I don't think they can just shut it down, since it would probably get them into legal troubles with so many anti-trust lawsuits against them these days 😭 They can't just kill the community market. However I believe TF2 should be considered to be a "liveservice" game, since they keep adding skins and making money. That money should be henceforth put towards maintaining the game!

to be fair, this has kinda been the norm for any new player since 2020

Honestly, as a new player myself, I love tf2 and I think it's super fun! But, I've found the community surrounding the game pretty toxic. I've been accused of renting skins (I bought skins since I like the game and I come from counter strike), hiring a medic bot to pocket heal me (my girlfriend playing the game with me, she is also new), and being accused of not being a new player and a troll because of my skins. I normally say nothing in game but I find myself getting targeted. It's not an every game type of situation but it's not uncommon to hear for me. I've found it hard to want to play at times due to it. Other than that issue, I love the game and hope Valve can fix the bot issues.

Bro had the nazi role play as a good gameplay example lol

I eish the bot hosters got charged for their crimes ESPECIALLY for the cheese pizza theyve been sharing

I just hope that they are going update VAC because their new game will release sometime in this year (I hope this year since are now beta testings), and I can´t imagine launch game with anti-cheat in this state.

If y'all want change then boycott the game, show valve that greed doesn't pay

professional gamer joewobbler

yeah, me too

I'm a tf2 player who actually joined in late 2023 (I downloaded the game alot earlier but I really started playing it in like between October-December). To this day I've never played Casual mode, I only played it in a few instances, and I just found Community servers to be better in every aspect compared to Casual. My first few months of the game were spent on the game's Training mode because I was too scared to play matches with actual players since I didn't wanna get curbed hard as a newbie f2p. Then when I actually decided to get on Casual it just got problematic for me there because matches took ungodly amounts of time to load and I was pissed to find out that f2ps couldn't chat or use voicelines in Casual. The last Casual match I ever played was in this one Control Point map, and that game got bombarded by Sniper bots, which then kicked me later on...

Nice video

I started playing tf2 in 2020, and first server I joined was full of bots, And 1 year I played only on minecraft trade servers and rocket jump maps...

The only thing i wanna complain now is the community servers. Toxic tryhards all gathered there is as bad as dealing with bots

I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've had the game in my library for years but didn't play much due to it not agreeing with my laptop at the time, got into it a few weeks ago and haven't stopped playing since. The bots are incredibly annoying when they sneak onto servers I'm on, but I've learned how to be quick on the draw with calling votekicks on the well-known ones and don't intend to let them ruin the experience for me.

Yay coalescence Risk of Rain

As a spy main, it makes me very happy to see two backstabs then making gwimbly noises

It never fails to surprise me how incompetent a multi billionaire company can be, somehow companies like Valve have all the money and resources in the entire planet and they can't even do the most basic of tasks.

This is why valves inaction bothers me so much. People still play tf2, you shouldn't feel like you missed out on anything. The game has a healthy player base you should be able to play it.

game hasn’t been the same since they removed quickplay and added casual mode instead we definitely wouldn’t even have a bot problem if they just stuck to quickplay

The biggest issue is: its not just TF2, CS2 is also getting blasted by bots. L4D2, L4D... Valve doesn't need to care about those products, Steam is making them billions and now GabeN is slowly retiring so Valve is under new management -- so I bet that has something to do with it...

I feel so embarrassed having trouble switching weapons as a new player or moving lmao

Thank you for playing tf2!! I have been playing it since it became free to play in June 2011. I always play on custom servers, much love from Costa Rica.

why did you join this game?

Cool video. Hey can I ask, how do you make your gameplay look so smooth on KZbin? Is it just TF2 at high detail on a good PC or do you do some editing? Looks great anyway!

Thank you for sharing your experiences! I grew up with this game on my dac's old work PC. I still remember playing for HOURS in the living room on Freak Fortress 2. I remember my first game as spy was on CTF_Sawmill back when quickplay was still a thing. I got the DIamondback and kept asking "hey is thi e diamondback any good? should I equip it?" I have memories of one specific minecraft map on a trade server, but I haven't been able to find it in a sea of other Minecraft maps. I remember some kid gifting me a strange Revolver out of nowhere when I said I'd never had a Strange before. Wish I'd kept it. Lots of emotions tied up in this game, and it feels like I'm watching a sibling or a parent die.

fun fact:valve workers has stated that they have planed to do some thing after literally every other project. and they are realy lazy at doing thing thats why its taking forever to get to tf2. its low on the list pretty much.