What comments are you wishing more people would have said?

Why wouldn't God have said it that way if that is what had happened? God does not shy away from talking about sex and people having sex. If Eve had lain with the serpent, God would have put it in Genesis. He would not have disguised it as "fruit." Genesis discusses Lots daughters committing incest with him. He talks about Adam having sex with Eve and then her conceiving (just two examples of many). Throughout the Bible when the fall is referred to it says that Eve was deceived, not seduced. Also the whole conversation in the garden was nothing about sex. It was about the fruit, eating it and the fact that she wanted to be like God, knowing good from evil. Trust me, if she had had sex with the serpent, God would have just told us. He is not a prude. Secondly, if the sin of Eve was sexual, then how did Adam sin? How is it a sin to have sexual relations with your wife, even if she cheated on you? If that is the case, then Adam did not sin, and Eve did. Humanity would not be sinful if that were the case. "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." Also please read Romans 5:12-21 which basically says the same thing just in more detail. What we are seeing is that Adam fell, and that is why humanity fell. Adam took the fruit, full well knowing what he was doing, and ate from it. Eve was the one who was deceived and gave it to him, but Adam was the one who's sin doomed all of humanity. Christ, the second Adam, is the one man through whom all are made alive. How can this work if the fall was all on the shoulders of a woman? Honestly, your take is even more patriarchal. It is saying that the fall is entirely woman's fault, not partly. Even though it is partly Eve's fault, Adam gets the main blame in the Bible. If I were to believe your perspective, then women are the bane of human existence and men (who are perfect) should have complete and utter control over their every move because they clearly cannot be trusted at all. Biblically, women were deceived first, and they do have their share in the blame, but Adam, the representative of the family, is the one who's sin doomed humanity. Had Eve sin and Adam not, it is possible God would have just killed Eve and given Adam a new wife, and humanity would have been perfect. Who knows for sure, but we would not be sinful without Adam's fall. That is how Jesus was able to be born of a woman and yet be sinless. His father was God, not a human father. Mary's sin was not passed on to him, only the physical body. Under the Biblical perspective, women AND men share the blame. Both are in need of God's salvation. See the problem with your theory and then claiming that the biblical take leads to patriarchy? Please read this excerpt discussing the theory you are proposing. The whole article is good as well. Here is the link www.equip.org/article/eve-sex-satan-serpent-seed-view-genesis-315/. The Seduction. Branham explains, “He seduced her [Eve] and by her did Satan have a child vicariously. Cain bore the full spiritual characteristics of Satan and the animalistic (sensual, fleshly) characteristic of the serpent.”5 Some proponents of the serpent seed doctrine point to the word “beguiled” in Genesis 3:13 (KJV) as evidence of Eve being sexually seduced by the serpent. This requires the interpreter to suggest that “beguiled” in this context actually means sexually seduced. However, in contemporary translations, the Hebrew word that the King James renders as “beguiled” is often translated as “deceived” (ESV, NIV, HCSB, NLT) or “tricked” (NRSV, NET), while none of these translations render the word as “seduced” or imply sexual seduction. In short, “beguiled” means to charm, enchant, deceive, or trick. In context, Eve is blaming the serpent for tricking her into eating the fruit of the forbidden tree. She is not stating that the serpent seduced her sexually.

It was not an apple, nor was it sex!

I'm so sorry for the hardships you have had in your life. No one wishes that on anyone. I believe that for most cases when the wife says to her husband I'm going to make your vision mine and love the direction you want to go, in most cases that will solve the discontent. But people are free to choose their own behavior. My struggle was thinking I knew what my husband should be doing and I was the kind of wife I thought was good. I told myself I was a good wife when I really wasn't a good wife to him. Our culture plays on women's fantasy that the men live to fulfill our wants and we should punish them when they don't do what we want. We can be doing this without even realizing we are. I leave you and your friend with the burden of asking God if you were really the wife your husband needed or the wife you thought he should have. I'm not leaving a judgment saying you were one or the other, that is only for you to know.

I have a friend going through a divorce and my council to her was God's order is women lead children, men lead women, and God leads men. If women overstep and make themselves leaders of their husbands, every relationship with struggle.

@@followinghisway7705 maybe most cases, but most definitely not all. I was submissive to an extreme, so as not to ever yell back at him, nor fight back when he assaulted me. I'm not a part of this culture which caters to women because I know it's not Scriptural, but satanic. He most definitely behaved one way in front of others, particularly at church, and completely differently at home and behind closed doors. So while I can agree with your statement for the most part, there absolutely are cases where even that would not work. He never kissed me during intimacy, and made sure that I was unfulfilled as Yah intended in intimacy. He would wake me up in the middle of the night when I could not function and have his way. I was a virgin at 23, and on our wedding night he flipped me over and had his way, and when I screamed in pain he put his hand over my mouth and angrily told me not to wake up the neighbors in the hotel. On our honeymoon, he rented the most wretched broken down vehicle he could find, which did break down in Mexico. We then spent the next 3 days in the house of Mexican strangers who were good enough to take us in on a single bed in the same room with their five children, and he spent more time talking to them in Spanish than he spent with me. Then when we finally got a tow truck to take us to the border and to get a new car, I asked if we could just pull over to a lake and spend some time together alone, and he angrily refused, as though I were asking too much and being ridiculous. He was so bent on the fact that no one could tell him what he could and could not do, including the law, that he audaciously told the police officers everything he had ever done to me after my 12-year-old daughter called 911 and they showed up, interrogated us both, and arrested him. He tried to have the courts put me in jail for kidnapping his children while I was taking care of my dying mother, which he had agreed to, and petitioned the courts for full custody of the children. The judge told him that not only was I going to get full custody even though I didn't ask, but he would not see or be near the children unless he got a psychiatric exam and anger management, which as I said above, he failed. There is a lot of evidence and testimony from before we got married, during our marriage, and now, that he is a homosexual. His family are not believers and keep telling him just to come out of the closet because they don't care, and many of them are homosexual and bisexual. When I tell you that I was a good wife to him, I tell you with a clear conscience before my Father in heaven who has seen it all. Perhaps a chapter in your book helping women in such dire straits would be helpful. Blessings and shalom 🕊️🙏🏻

​@@amyspringstead2208 I hear you and I believe you. YHVH can't save all marriages because humans have free will. You did everything you could and our Elohim who reigns, see it all and gave you and your children safety because of your obedience. YHVH bless you and keep you and your family. Shalom sister in Yeshua. ❤

Noone said stay with a man that abuses you. A man that abuses his woman is not of God. He is no protector nor a provider

I appreciate that. What's the funniest part to you?

There are all types of relationships, but not all relationships God's type. The purpose of this book was to learn about God's type.

@@followinghisway7705 he is xtian. I am not. He does not expect me to be servile. We both think that Paul had some major issues with women in general.

Paul just had women issues!! 🤣

Then why are you here.......? I'm not going to discourage you from learning from a wise woman through this book, but seriously, if you don't want to learn from this, why are you here?

Hey Stephanie 😁

I don’t think so. I understand why you’re saying this but abuse is abuse and every single woman should report this to the police. He has a part too and abuse isn’t it.

Thank you. In the feminist world we live in, encouragement is definitely needed for all of us. 💞

I think faith in God can bridge the gap between cultural differences, as one tries to live "God's culture" rather than just traditions. If I'm understanding him right, he was describing how it was. Not if it was right or wrong.

@@followinghisway7705 Oh ok makes sense.

I think he makes some really good points in his book. I appreciate the focus of solving the problem of why men and women are so messed up these days. I don't think women today realize that they haven't become better from being "liberated" from men, but in fact have become worse and harmed men in the process.

@@followinghisway7705 Amen so true.