How to Keep Score in Pickleball
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@marcienj
@marcienj 6 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Especially useful was the tip on holding off to go to net if really far back behind baseline! Especially with former tennis players who hit fast drives.
@KTCHNPickleball
@KTCHNPickleball 13 сағат бұрын
Spectator line calls are going to add an interesting dynamic to the game. I’m curious to see how this impacts tournaments. 🧐
@BrianTacocat99
@BrianTacocat99 18 сағат бұрын
With the new volley rule, can you step into the kitchen and set yourself outside the sideline on an Ernie now?
@SurfCityBill
@SurfCityBill 18 сағат бұрын
If Server 1 faults I assume Server 2 starts from the left side? What if Server 1 scores on his 1st serve but faults on his 2nd? Does Server 2 start on the right side?
@DavidSmith-fx8lo
@DavidSmith-fx8lo Күн бұрын
lol, i do love that at the end you said "let's play pickleball" then didnt call the score :D
@DaveNeve
@DaveNeve Күн бұрын
Personally, I'd classify it as a "leisure sport" for the unfit and seniors.
@gunnerzane5230
@gunnerzane5230 2 күн бұрын
Sweet pickleball is way better..
@Okami400
@Okami400 2 күн бұрын
What is this? Tennis for ants?
@imtheadamus1979
@imtheadamus1979 2 күн бұрын
Looks shite
@ernestcassler2505
@ernestcassler2505 2 күн бұрын
Good info.
@user-pd4cv2bw1h
@user-pd4cv2bw1h 3 күн бұрын
Pickle ball sports is unique and conventional for any age and I'm a swifty 😊❤
@kenschoonover9395
@kenschoonover9395 3 күн бұрын
Better than having your opponent claim you did a foot fault and having no say in it.
@dickosman968
@dickosman968 3 күн бұрын
I am very surprised that you have not either edited or removed this video since your point #4 is so demonstrably wrong. And a couple other flaws... In point #1, you say that "both feet must be established outside the kitchen" and demonstrate with both feet firmly planted. The actual rule 9.D. says "you cannot volley a return until both feet have made contact with the playing surface completely outside the NVZ." Your feet do not ned to be planted simultaneously as your words and actions suggest. You can get one foot down then the other and comply with the rule. And, any scrape of a toe or heel suffices as "made contact", your feet do not have to be planted on the sole. And, please, please, please stop calling it "the kitchen"! You will find that word nowhere in the Official Rulebook. It is the NON-VOLLEY ZONE. If you are going to comment on rules, please use the correct verbiage.
@kenschoonover9395
@kenschoonover9395 4 күн бұрын
With no referee, yes, foot faults are an immediate call. But if your opponent disagrees, it's a replay. Otherwise, cheaters will call phantom foot faults. It relies on honesty and sportsmanship all around.
@kec3043
@kec3043 4 күн бұрын
Please clarify your explanation of Rule #2. You said you cannot add height to the ball when you toss on a drop serve and then you add height on the ball using the paddle to toss the ball.
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 4 күн бұрын
You can toss the ball on a volley serve (using your hand or the paddle), but you can not toss the ball on a drop serve. If you are using the paddle to drop the ball on a drop serve you can only let it roll off the paddle without tossing it up.
@poopadoopalis
@poopadoopalis 4 күн бұрын
What an unnecessarily complicated game.
@StewsReplay
@StewsReplay 4 күн бұрын
ROFL #4. Integrity in foot faults... Get the line calls first
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@johnhungerford3814
@johnhungerford3814 5 күн бұрын
Very easy to get
@stevezpj
@stevezpj 5 күн бұрын
"It's like a chess match on a court"
@kenschoonover9395
@kenschoonover9395 5 күн бұрын
👍Happy to help.
@DannyBPlays
@DannyBPlays 5 күн бұрын
I looked up USAP rules from earlier in 2024 and it said spectators can't make a call, what part about #5 is different from before? I guess rule #2 is for disabled persons with one arm to clarify their ability to hold and ball before serving because I can't possibly imagine a toss being more accurate from a paddle than someone's hand for a two-handed person
@playpickleball-com
@playpickleball-com 5 күн бұрын
A NOTE ON RULE #4 from the USA Pickleball official website: 2025 Rule: 13.D.1.c. Players may call non-volley zone faults and service foot faults on the opponent's end of the court. Claims of non-volley zone faults and service foot faults on opponents must be called as soon as the claimed fault is detected. If there is any disagreement between teams about the called fault, a replay shall occur. 13.D.1.d. For non-officiated matches, if a player believes an opponent has committed any type of fault other than a service or non-volley zone fault as noted in Section 7 - Fault Rules, they may mention the specific fault to the opponents) but they have no authority to enforce the fault. The final decision on fault resolution belongs to the player that allegedly committed the fault. (New) Rule 7.0. Any disagreement between partners on a fault call will be decided to the benefit of their opponents.
@christophernicolai2238
@christophernicolai2238 4 күн бұрын
Please edit the actual video to correct #4. Not everyone will read comments. Even adding a text overlay with the correct interpretation would be better than just leaving the video as-is.
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 4 күн бұрын
@@christophernicolai2238 I agree!
@AndrewCarr-ld8tj
@AndrewCarr-ld8tj 6 күн бұрын
I thought the rule was that a player could not propel the ball up or down
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
Correct for a drop serve. On a volley serve you can propel the ball up.
@richarddetwiler4295
@richarddetwiler4295 4 күн бұрын
@@jimh.4027 Or down, for that matter (on a volley serve).
@crownator
@crownator 3 күн бұрын
Someone was saying overhead serves are now allowed as long as the paddle is below your wrist - true?
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 3 күн бұрын
@@crownator The required elements of the serve have not changed. For a volley serve you can not make contact with the ball above waist level, so that would rule out an overhead serve. For a drop serve, I suppose you could hold the ball above your head, drop it from that height, immediately squat down and hit the ball from a low position with an overhead swing. It would not be an effective serve.
@kenschoonover9395
@kenschoonover9395 6 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks but no, that's not what I'm saying. I, with or without my partner's involvement, can immediately stop play and call a service foot fault or a NVZ fault on you. You, with or without your partner's involvement, will either agree or disagree. If you agree, the fault stands. If you disagree, that means there is disagreement between our teams and it's a replay. I think "BETWEEN TEAMS" is being misread. TEAMS does not mean it has to be all four players. I represent my team, you represent your team. It used to say "disagreement AMONG PLAYERS". The old rule appeared to say that disagreement between partners (same team) results in a replay. The change clarifies that intent. Hope this helps!
@playpickleball-com
@playpickleball-com 5 күн бұрын
Thank you for clarifying! This is super helpful!!! I was reading the official rule book and honestly must have just misunderstood the language of it. The word TEAMS tripped me up. It’s all a bit tricky. I’ll try to pin a comment here so people know!
@StewsReplay
@StewsReplay 4 күн бұрын
Do you have to call the foot fault immediately on seeing it it wait for outcome. Replay is pointless
@christophernicolai2238
@christophernicolai2238 4 күн бұрын
⁠@@StewsReplay- You should call the fault immediately. Not sure why you think that a replay is pointless if there is disagreement on the call. A replay prevents a cheater from calling NVZ faults that weren’t really faults.
@StewsReplay
@StewsReplay 4 күн бұрын
@christophernicolai2238 why not have the same rule for out balls as that mistake if far more common and divisive
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 4 күн бұрын
@@StewsReplay There are only 2 faults that can result in a replay, a no volley zone violation and a service foot fault. What do these 2 faults have in common that other faults do not, such as line calls? The person allegedly committing the fault is typically not aware he is doing it and his partner will often miss it too.
@simplefit93
@simplefit93 6 күн бұрын
If its an out ball do both partners have to see that it was out or can i ask my partner if they saw it go out?
@MrBrad777c
@MrBrad777c 6 күн бұрын
I agree with all rule changes. My only point is number 4 is simply edict and theres no way to prove or enforce it…so really why add it. I guess to play on the conscience of players. Personally if I fault I call it but I mind my own business on teammates. Thats on them and I trust them to be honest.
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
#4 is not new, it's just tweaked a bit to clarify the USAPA's intent.
@MrBrad777c
@MrBrad777c 6 күн бұрын
@ agreed
@user9b2
@user9b2 6 күн бұрын
Both this video AND the linked website need to be updated and improved - both are way more complicated (non straight forward) than it needs to be.
@slimpickinses
@slimpickinses 6 күн бұрын
#4 is wrong get rid of this video before the mis information spreads
@user9b2
@user9b2 6 күн бұрын
So it is legal to toss the ball?
@slimpickinses
@slimpickinses 6 күн бұрын
yes you always could the no toss rule was experimental for ppa pros for just a few tournaments
@pablogalvz
@pablogalvz 6 күн бұрын
Yes but only for a volley serve not for a bounce serve
@ST240hp99
@ST240hp99 6 күн бұрын
What a stupid game for losers, no difference to play a tv tennis game
@dmills7375
@dmills7375 6 күн бұрын
Is Rule #5 new? I thought it always said that the call has to be made by the players on the court (and not spectators). Am I missing something?
@pablogalvz
@pablogalvz 6 күн бұрын
It used to be “shall” not call now it is “will” not call (or something like this. The rule existed before but has been clarified with more definitive wording.
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
@@pablogalvz It used to be "should" and now it is "shall". "Shall" is meant to be more definitive.
@dmills7375
@dmills7375 4 күн бұрын
@@jimh.4027 and @pablogalvz thanks for the clarification. I’ve always operated with that as a definitive rule. It doesn’t stop spectators from offering their opinions from time to time, but we’ve always cited this rule.
@joeljacobson9423
@joeljacobson9423 6 күн бұрын
3:35. Dude if you slow mo it you're actually making contact parallel with your crotch. Legal
@glenn2595
@glenn2595 6 күн бұрын
I understand the volley as when you hit a high shot and you know the player is going to hit down at your feet, your paddle is usually touching the ground. Now you can lunge forward to pick it up instead of trying to take the ultra-short hop. The paddle serve may have been put in for people with one arm. That's how I've seen a woman serve anyway as she has no part of the missing arm, it's just shoulder. What's funny is we sometimes ask the 'spectator' which is really a player waiting for a game to finish and it's their turn, if a close ball was in or out. When I'm playing with a new partner I always tell them when I'm focusing on hitting ball, many times I don't really see if its out or in so I ask them to make the out call if that what it is. BTW, to me, it's a social game, so I just go what is called even if I know it to be wrong. If I have to argue or stress out I'll find another group to play with or I just don't have to play, it really isn't important. Thanks for the video.
@dnsjo1
@dnsjo1 6 күн бұрын
Delete this video immediately! Dead wrong info at 3:20.
@JoJo-Campeon
@JoJo-Campeon 6 күн бұрын
How to fight against Rule 4? Not all opponents look at their own feet nor their partner’s.. what then?
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
Let's take the most common scenario. Player A commits a kitchen violation that he is unaware of making and his own partner B does not see it happen either. Player C on the other team sees the violation. His partner D either saw the violation too or did not see anything. In this case Player C's team will assert that a kitchen violation occurred (if D didn't see it, then their team's opinion is based on what C saw). Player A's team can either agree that a violation occurred (basically trusting the integrity of C's team) and lose the rally, or they can disagree that a violation occurred (even though they weren't looking at player A's feet at the time). In the event of a disagreement, a replay would occur.
@pablogalvz
@pablogalvz 6 күн бұрын
@@jimh.4027a replay would occur if they disagree with the fault called? This would open the door for a bunch of misused fault calls. I think the rule states that if the teams disagree then the fault is deemed to have not happen and the point is over/lost?
@slimpickinses
@slimpickinses 6 күн бұрын
they have the #4 rule wrong
@ProfessorB.
@ProfessorB. 6 күн бұрын
New “Rule #4” is a terrible idea. Typically one player is playing the ball while another may be looking at the opponent’s feet. Rarely will both players be aware of an opponent’s kitchen fault. If we trust the players integrity when making other calls, why don’t we when it comes to kitchen calls? Makes no sense. This new rule will result in many getting away with kitchen faults. There is a kid at my club who faults often but rarely gets called for it; this is going to make it worse.
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
@@pablogalvz this is not new. If the teams disagree, then a replay occurs (under the old and new rules). The change to #4 was clarification of wording only. As far as misuse goes, that possibility already exists in pickleball (and all sports). People can call balls out that are clearly in, with no recourse. So in that case you're playing with someone without integrity, so you just stop playing with them.
@treyklein5290
@treyklein5290 6 күн бұрын
#4 is absolutely wrong! Please remove this video and correct that. If you don't, this confusion will confound players for many months! The teammates do NOT both have to agree that their opponent committed an NVZ fault in order to call it. Please fix this!
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
I agree. I think this video needs to be fixed or it will create all kinds of confusion out there.
@Positivecuriosity46
@Positivecuriosity46 6 күн бұрын
Yes the arguments are going to start here! 😅
@stroshow5
@stroshow5 6 күн бұрын
Wait what’s stopping me from calling a line fault on any close play?
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
@@stroshow5 Your integrity.
@stroshow5
@stroshow5 5 күн бұрын
@@jimh.4027 lots of people have terrible eye sight. That’s a horrible angle to see if someone stepped on the line. It should be your partner that calls it
@kenschoonover9395
@kenschoonover9395 6 күн бұрын
This is Ken S., Chair of the USAP Rules Committee. Nice job on explaining those rule changes!! ... uhh, except for #4. It is not required that both partners have to have seen the fault. If you saw it and your partner did not see it, you can call the fault. The rule says "if there is a disagreement " about the fault call, it's a replay. Meaning if your team (either or both players) calls the fault and their team (either or both players) disagrees, it's a replay. Of course, if your partner DID see it and disagrees with your fault call, then it goes in favor of your opponent and you'll have lost the rally for stopping play.
@kenschoonover9395
@kenschoonover9395 6 күн бұрын
Sorry, I tried to underline some words and they didn't show. Meant to say "if there is disagreement BETWEEN TEAMS" about the fault call.
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
Thank you Ken. I came here to say what you said.
@JoJo-Campeon
@JoJo-Campeon 6 күн бұрын
@@kenschoonover9395 not all opponents look at their own feet nor their partner’s feet.. what then?
@kenschoonover9395
@kenschoonover9395 6 күн бұрын
@@JoJo-Campeon That's definitely a big issue in rec play or whenever there is no referee. NVZ foot faults can happen A LOT without a referee because players are watching the ball and are rarely watching their opponent's or their own feet. Bottom line is you can't and shouldn't call a fault that you don't see. You can't and shouldn't agree or disagree with your partner or your opponents if you did not see it.
@JoJo-Campeon
@JoJo-Campeon 6 күн бұрын
@ I see foot faults on both sides of the court. (Our and opponents) I’ve been calling faults on opponents, my partner and myself when on it during a volley.
@OfficialNPL
@OfficialNPL 6 күн бұрын
#1 - Can you use your paddle touching the kitchen to balance yourself BEFORE you hit a volley? #5 - Can you ask a spectator if a ball was in or out?
@kenschoonover9395
@kenschoonover9395 6 күн бұрын
#1 Yes, as long as nothing, neither you nor your paddle, is touching the NVZ when you strike the ball. #5 To decide if you are going to it in or out? No, no, never.
@zengzijian
@zengzijian 6 күн бұрын
Can you jump from the kitchen, hit the volley, then landed outside the kitchen?
@jimh.4027
@jimh.4027 6 күн бұрын
@@zengzijian no.
@pablogalvz
@pablogalvz 6 күн бұрын
@@zengzijianno because both feet must be established outside the NVZ at the time of contact
@user9b2
@user9b2 6 күн бұрын
@@jimh.4027 with the new rule, I believe it is legal.
@MISTERKIC
@MISTERKIC 7 күн бұрын
Vomit
@godrilla5549
@godrilla5549 7 күн бұрын
And yet 7 years later nobody knows what pickle ball is.
@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.
@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. 8 күн бұрын
Both of these people have _really_ annoying voices.
@mh43
@mh43 8 күн бұрын
How do I contact it front of my body and also NOT moving to the side?
@jayce5025
@jayce5025 8 күн бұрын
It's growing because America as a whole is a bunch of fat asses.
@bkohler89
@bkohler89 9 күн бұрын
This one guy i go to Bible study with on tuesday nights told me about this. His names dan. He's 84 and he stopped playing a few years ago
@emenemes5678
@emenemes5678 9 күн бұрын
I was playing rec with friends and my serve grace the top of the net. Do i replay the ball like tennis or how?
@caroldelfosse-kidd6243
@caroldelfosse-kidd6243 11 күн бұрын
Very well explained. I watched it three times. Yeah, it’s a bit different, and confusing at first, but this short video was helpful to me. Happy playing, everyone!
@lostmypassword1
@lostmypassword1 11 күн бұрын
Great tips! We were just discussing the bangers last night, so can't wait to try this technique and all of your others. Thanks so much!
@Raj-xo9ws
@Raj-xo9ws 11 күн бұрын
Tennis dwarf 😊
@CollectingCarolina
@CollectingCarolina 11 күн бұрын
3:45 that serve was legal, you made contact below your hips... I understand the point but don't us a legal serve as an example of an illegal serve.