Biiiiiig story so why haven't govt done so after the policy n where are govt funds to do skill development..talk is cheeeep lady

Hahaha What happen to SAA transnet denel eskom..hehehe

Mmmm who did vusi develop or helped to be in business..for the same which benefactor helped skill develop people..don't worry about the private sector as they worked to get where they are..

Only 1% the comrades got rich..millionaires

BEE was only for black people not as it were for the marginal Indian n colored.unfortunately this failed dismally so what is being said is just hogwash

We need more audit when it comes to BBEE, we also need this people to be punished(Jail time)

Thanks to Sizwe and Khaya. Myself and Vusi are having a free simplified lectures on land issues in SA among others,and it's quite a brilliant educational discussion and I'm loving it 😄.

BEE is counter productive and counter human nature. You will never win! It cannot solve the problem. While those in poverty - of all races - continue to suffer. This government has legislated and made it criminal to be human. The ignorance is staggering. The stats after 30 years confirm it!

Vusi's mike is not close enough to his mouth. It sounds like he is speaking from afar. We need to do sound tests before recording the interviews. Zodwa Ntuli's voice is fortunately much less faint.

I stopped watching before the end because this woman seriously fails to understand the real issues and has no remedy for the bad bee policy. Thanks for exposing this nonsense.

Anc farce!!!! Supreme court proclaimed BEE unconstitutional.

"We come with Queen's English" 😅 Ei pluz niyasishaya isilungu.

The failure of all state own companies is because of BEE.

Why does Botswana have a better economy than SA? Here's the reason: when Sir Seretse Khama got in power his policy was you get on the basis of you skill and merit not skin. Period.

Sorry wrong 37:35 bee is NOT an enabler. What a joke. Its a forced legislated giver. Your skin allows you to stand in the line to be given not earned.

33:34 very clever question from vusi about the white male which she did not answer at all. In fact she clearly sees it as he will be out of a job, tough shit. So Vusi is right with the rumour. BEE = white impoverishment.

Great approach. Thanks for the shifting the paradigm

My wish is for more people to see and understand this video. Education is key.

No matter what the BEE legislation says, no matter what the Codes of Practice say, … BBBEE is fundamentally an evil system designed to further enrich those already enriched. It COMPLETELY misses the fundamental principle of benefitting the poorest of the poor, and in fact is not even effectively designed to do so. As mentioned, it just makes the rich richer! Your guest is full of lovely words, but they are empty, and the system is fundamentally criminal in intent. I am involved in procurement in the private sector, and BEE is nothing short of a joke! It is simply an inhibitor of efficiency and effectiveness in business at large! Your guest talks about having an honest conversation…. so let’s do that and call out BBBEE for the criminal system it is, by forcing people to ignore fundamental economic driving principles! I am disgusted at this instrument!!

"you" will *NEVER ERADICATE ~poverty~ But* direct the Monies properly/ honestly THEN school & tertiary Educ. shall improve !!! While monies are STOLEN "you" changing NOTHING ?

R1 billion in damages from Fees Must Fall in 2015/16. Disgusting and barbaric in my book.

decolonised education system?

I have great respect for everyone in the comment section,this is meat for the mature

Good questioning. Learnt a lot

What if you are actually punishing ppl who wanted to help?

I always come back to this conversation! This is one of the best discussions ever held on the topic! Brilliant minds - Brilliant Perspectives! Thank you gentlemen!

This 400 years of Apartheid is totally wrong. It took 180 years for the white settlers to reach the Orange / Gariep river & the Kei River to reach the Bantu nations. The Freestate was only entered en-mass by settlers out of the Cape after 1836 (less than 160 years pre 1994) & after King Shaka's Defaqane Wars. Towns & Cities first had to develop & be built. Johannesburg was barely 100 years old in 1994.

What is meant by "de-colonization"? Because the world runs on the "Western style" International economic globalised system. Do we want to rebel against the world or do we want to produce students that can engage with the world on equal ability & build SA up to compete on equal footing or do we want to go Socialist and keep struggling like all other Socialist countries do. Even Russia & China abandoned their socialist economic systems in favour of Free Market competitive Economics. What language are we all speaking here? English right? Do we want to rebel or compete is the question, do we want to put ideology above economic progress?

Very intelligent response to the question of why we should've continued spending on the SAA

Hi Great Show Vusi .The Book she is talking about it La Chicana and the Intersection of Race, Class, and Gender by Irene I. Blea

BEE (add more B's 😂😂) is another South African anc failed joke. Working only for the gain of the anc comrades' pockets.

Finally I can disagree with Vusi. BBBEE is a tyrannical policy, one that has only alienated our diverse population. The vast majority of this content is mumbo jumbo, just do what everything thinks and force white owned businesses to give all their shares away at gunpoint before they leave the country, not smart considering what we know now from the Zondo reports. Also, you can say the studies say . . . but id like to scrutinize the research proposals and the referenced stats, knowing gov has no real research . . .

very helpful

Judging from the diamond earrings, it's working just fine for you. And that, my dear, is all that matters. Success comes from 1. education 2. a political environment that encourages investment 3. hard work and 4. from within. Not through legislation. Doing that just destroys opportunity. BEE is misguided. Let me be more frank. It's bankrupt. Nobody is willing to invest in an economy that mandates who you hire and how much you pay them.

Hello my name is mandla. um from tembisa, i work at irene mall at mugg and bean i am looking for help if you can as BBB.

Wow. Im aspiring to be both those ladies. Thank u 4 a meaningful discussion

Vumile and Lucracia on this topic..... EPIC YOU LADIES ARE FIRE THANKS VUSI

Vusi is such a good host

These women are phenomenal 🙏

With people like these, there is hope for prosperity in this country wooooooow what an eye opener l am speechless 👌👌👌👌👌

"Section 25 is schizophrenic" deep!!

What an insightful conversation. I appreciate how well she answered BhutVusi without being defensive or seeing the need to be. She also candidly agrees that the legislation has failed to implement the BBBee policy which for me is very admirable.Now we can honestly move forward in rectifying these mistakes👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Brilliant convo. Thanks bhut Vusi.

How can some one have a view like this!!! Completely failing view!

Excellent!!

This is great!

BBBEE = FAILED social engineering policy

BBBEE is just another vehicle for corruption and an impediment to foreign investment. Scrap it!

Where is part 3?

Every intelligent person knows that BBB EEE is a massive economic failure, all it does is highlight the fact that the people who are pushed into positions because of colour shows their incompetence and for the most part is window dressing. This woman thinks it’s a great idea but she’s a puppet and knows nothing, her advice doesn’t mean a thing it’s pure ignorance gone to seed

If you going to put the pass rate to nothing for students. Than its obvious they will struggle. I am a teacher. We had to put kids through because they can only fail once during a phase. They are being put through even though they are not on standard. Hypocrisy.