JFK did not advocate for or support a first strike against China or Russia. This is a myth that is used by both sides to rewrite history and push the lie that LBJ’s Cold War policies were simply an extension of Kennedy’s.

Buckley parrots the myth that JFK was entertaining a first strike against China or Russia in the Fall of 1963. He was planning no such thing and then he was assassinated.

Dave Smith brought me here.

I’m here because of Dave Smith vs Cuomo on PBD

They talk so pretty.

Well, we have a repeat

10:25

Buckley is such a sophist chud and fascist sympathizer.

Vidal's description of the Republican Party held true at one time, in his experience and lifetime prior to this debate, but does not hold any more. Times change. The Democrats would not accept JFK's policies today, either, and call him "far right."

A good wit and an articulate argument is very satisfying. Especially when it’s persuasive enough that it compels me to rethink or change my stance on a subject.

The fact that the discourse hasn't changed in substance but only in form is remarkable. It's a miirror image of what's happening now

Money shot is at 10:40

11:10 bill button

I remember this!! This debate was EPIC!! TV doesn’t get much better than this!!

It’s seems to me. Gore sort of enjoyed being called a “queer” A sly smile appearing on his DSL’s. He was indeed a homosexual, but for his own reasons thought that description although correct was beneath him.. Both served in World War II so they weren’t cowards. I like both of them.. And I bet most of people watching didn’t hear the slur… Another debate.. Of course Gore & Bill sued each other out of ego..

Awesome accents. What happened to how the Americans speak now?

God Hates America, God Hates Republicans Mass Murder Party Gore Vidal is a Oklahoman I am from Muskogee. Oklahoma, Proud of Gore Vidal from Oklahoma: I live in San Francisco now 74 Years Old.

Apparently “words will never hurt me” doesn’t apply to the police according to mister buckley

History proves Vidals points Buckley is as usual an irritating bore.

I could listen to both these guys read the phone book. Especially Buckley, his cadence and accent are just fantastic.

Calling someone a nazi is a bigger insult than calling someone a queer

Gore has the most epic eyebrow raises - also, he gets under Buckley’s skin in such a dramatic way…

"Shut up a minute" LOLLL

Oh politics used to be funny back then. Now when everyone argues it is just annoying.

Crypto-nazi moment 10:45 😂

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Buckley sounds like a Valley girl.

Gore Vidal was a congenital liar knowing full well that his New Left comrades did not sit singing folk songs but were in fact violent Maoist revolutionaries who committed multiple murders, bombings & kidnappings in their attempts to stick it to the man. From The Black Panthers, to The Weather Underground to FALN and The SLA among others who Vidal got turned on by The New Left were violent to their core and still are in the new iterations of ANTIFA, Earth Justice, Jane’s Revenge & BLM bully, killing, fire-bombing, extorting and intimidating while calling anyone who even criticizes them “Nazis”, “racists” & “fascists”. Same critical theory, defamation and misanthropy by a dumber breed of Maoist miscreants. The First Amendment only guarantees PEACEABLE assembly which is anathema to the standard operating procedures of leftist revolutionaries. Turn on your TV and feel the peace of the New New Left as they continue their bloodletting on a daily basis. They are the literal Junta of the Cultural Marxist Democrat Party.

Listening to the typical tripe spewed by Vidal, I am reminded of Mark Twain's quotation that "you should never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience".

Based.

Now this has broadcast is just a perfect example that history repeats itself. Also, Why do I picture Vidal and Buckley are still arguing about this on repeat in their graves?

I love Gore Vidal, but I love the Congress of Vienna, too! The ballgowns were beautiful, everyone ate, drank, had a good time. Just saying.

I love watching these two patrician queens go at it.

Buckley reminds me of that kid at school who corrects the teacher.

Buckley brags he was in the infantry in WW2 . He never left the US, serving in Georgia and Texas. Not exactly the front line.

@4:11 Apart from the bit about supporting Ho Chi Min against Mao Zedong Gore Vidal sets out here the exact policy the Kissinger and Nixon pursued to exploit the Sino-Soviet split: breakthrough with China and detente with the USSR, and playing each off against the other.

Buckley makes by far the most ad hominem attacks in all their debates. Not that Vidal cared.

Notice how Buckley’s holier than thou concern about profanity goes right out the window

Buckley is dealing with semantics and sophistry if he is willing to admit that the police were violently overzealous but is taking issue with the idea that the convention was a fascist police state.

00:45 haha wtf was that

“I based my character on you, passionate and irrelevant” 😂 LOVE gore Vidal. We’ll never have anyone like him ever agn.

Nixon just didn’t believe we should give more money to a government that’s out of control and waste more money than they actually spend on anything worthwhile.

Nixon was very experienced, and very knowledgeable . In fact he’s one of the most qualified we’ve had in my 73 years of life.

Buckley's hair piece was awful.

11:33 Mic Drop!!!

It's sad to see Buckley now. Knowing he will come to regret his outburst here for the decades to come.

I’m

Winter of the world. 2nd of a trilogy by Ken Follet has taught me more about WW history and politics than everything else. Being girlie, I usually read love stories and overcoming hardship stuff but this war book is incredible. Only 10 pages left to read. 🎉

Man, imagine a time when people actually spoke like Frasier

Thank you for posting it, sir! Ah, those were the days...