Forge Valley Roasters

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@DeferFuncClose 2 күн бұрын

Looks really good! I think I would go with 2 different grinders for "modern" and "classic" espresso. I189d / i200d from in the Mazzer Philos for example. Perhaps a conical grinder for thick and chunky shots for milk drinks and people who prefer espresso as served in Italy and a flat burr grinder for a clear espresso with a lot of different fruity notes. I haven't done market research so I'm not sure about how many people know about this 😄

@lovemountain8623 2 күн бұрын

How exciting, I wish you all the best, I would definitely come by if I would be in the area. Many little details that the customers will enjoy. Have a good opening day 🎉

@ForgeValleyRoasters 2 күн бұрын

Thank you and I hope so much that they do! We tried to be different and offer something new to the area!

@mtpastor4546 2 күн бұрын

First of all, congratulations!🎉 For my opinion, I would turn the back of your beautiful espresso machine toward your customers. Reason for that: 1. The espresso machine can hide how barista brew the drinks. In some case, this is a good thing. 2. The barista, then, will always face to the customers

@ForgeValleyRoasters 2 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! I would love to do what you suggest unfortunately we couldn't get the machine onto front bar due to power and drainage limitations there. The plus side is people get to see the wonderful equipment and they see an honest view of our production. A big focus for us is cleaning as we go so that if stays looking pristine even in the middle of a busy Saturday lunch rush, like an open kitchen I guess!

@Domje 2 күн бұрын

Love this but £3.35 for Espresso... very high pricing...

@ForgeValleyRoasters 2 күн бұрын

You share the exact same fear as me! We don't make more than 15% net profit on any item sold, every other penny goes towards the staff wages, premises and equipment etc. I will see if that's what people want or not I guess!

@Domje 21 сағат бұрын

@@ForgeValleyRoasters Great insight, thanks!

@2be8way 2 күн бұрын

Congratulations! Love watching you grow 🌿

@ForgeValleyRoasters 2 күн бұрын

Thank you! 🙏 We are literally putting everything into it at this point and hoping/planning that it pays off 😬

@craig_drummond 3 күн бұрын

The shop looks fantastic! Can’t wait to see some videos of the shop in action with all the vendors up and running Couple of questions: - can you post the names and model numbers of the espresso and grinders. - can you do a video on how the economics work with so many independent vendors sharing the same space? Is there revenue sharing or simple space / rent sharing? I think you said you are handling all the front of house so are you subleasing to the other vendors? That ends up being four questions, sorry

@ForgeValleyRoasters 2 күн бұрын

Yes no problem and thank you for your comments 😊 Espresso = Victoria Arduino Eagle One (2 Group) Grinders = Victorian Arduino Mythos MyG85 Yes I'll have to do a vid on the business model I think that'd be interesting. I should say that the food hall is owned by someone else and we rent our space for the coffee shop etc. so I guess it's them subleasing to us 😁

@hasanbasriyekeler6983 3 күн бұрын

You look like a proper coffee shop's chef 😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉.... İnstead of coffee supplier 😊😊😊😊

@ForgeValleyRoasters 3 күн бұрын

Is that a good thing?! 😅

@acchyutjolly 3 күн бұрын

That's such a lovely setup. Hope I can visit someday!

@ForgeValleyRoasters 3 күн бұрын

We'll keep the coffee hot ☺️

@wendineill 3 күн бұрын

Wow, looks fab ❤

@ForgeValleyRoasters 3 күн бұрын

Thank you so much it's been a lot of work 🥵

@joncooke2450 3 күн бұрын

Great work guys, looks great 👍 Just sorry I'm too far away to visit 😢

@ForgeValleyRoasters 3 күн бұрын

Thank you!! Never say never, we'll be here for ya 😬

@joncooke2450 3 күн бұрын

@ForgeValleyRoasters very true 👍 I'm only in Scotland, so you never know 😉

@alexdonger5816 3 күн бұрын

Wow! Looks good!

@ForgeValleyRoasters 3 күн бұрын

🙏 come see us!

@CampervanCookout 7 күн бұрын

What about power and gas costs, as well as machines, Must be more costs in that overhead?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 3 күн бұрын

Heya, machinery and equipment is a capital expenditure rather than an overhead and for power consumption that's something I only recently got a view of as we needed to see how far fuel could take us. I work it out to be about 20p per 250g bag at the moment!

@gregwilliamson1569 7 күн бұрын

Great! Question: How do you plan for getting the coffee beans, and having those same beans available for your mainline coffee product? Do you buy a bulk that will last for a year? The season? Flow of your stock… What if an advertised coffee roast becomes unavailable? Would love to see more about how your open shop affects your stock and roasting operation, too. Would love to visit sometime. Thanks!

@ForgeValleyRoasters 7 күн бұрын

Heya we basically have an educated guess about how well a coffee will sell and then we contract with the importer a certain amount to be used over 6 months and once it's gone we move onto a new one! Coffee shop is open now (I do have a video I keep meaning to upload!) and it's definitely using a lot of coffee so that's a challenge now to keep up with it! 😅

@2be8way 10 күн бұрын

How much you paid for corses and which company you used?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 9 күн бұрын

We used Dark Woods in West Yorkshire, if you go to their website it lists all the courses and prices! Highly recommend them too 👌

@2be8way 9 күн бұрын

@@ForgeValleyRoasters thank you so much!

@ForgeValleyRoasters 9 күн бұрын

You bet!

@TazBo-wd2ig 10 күн бұрын

Love your branding

@ForgeValleyRoasters 9 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! We just got it done recently too after a long time deciding!

@michaelmeade 10 күн бұрын

I'm enjoying your videos from Ireland. Great information. I've recently started roasting with a popcorn maker and your videos have given me inspiration to pursue roasting further possibly selling at some stage. I think I'll give myself a year to develop my taste and smell senses with the popper before maybe getting something like your cormorant. We spend so much on coffee from the supermarket so home roasting should payback on a roaster after about 2-3 years! Best wishes with the coffee shop journey, a great achievement 👏

@ForgeValleyRoasters 10 күн бұрын

Thank you so much and great to hear about your own journey thank you for sharing it! Yea I think that's a great idea you have because if you are comfortable roasting you'll make your money back over time all the while enjoying a fresher product. And who knows maybe you do a local market or two and sell some as well?!

@hasanbasriyekeler6983 11 күн бұрын

I am really far away from you right now. But my heart ♥️ is with you lovely peaceful and beautiful family 😊😊😊 I hope you will have wonderful success and one day will come and see you all there...... FVR.. (is that equal FVR = FRV(forever) 🎉🎉🎉🎉

@ForgeValleyRoasters 10 күн бұрын

Thank you very much! FVR for Forge Valley Roasters 😅

@TazBo-wd2ig 12 күн бұрын

Is it hard to get into something like coffee club where they send out your samples ?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 10 күн бұрын

Not particularly but we don't want to lose control of the final price to customers. We are currently working with Coffee Nerdery though which is worth checking out if you haven't heard of them!

@TazBo-wd2ig 12 күн бұрын

The question is how are you going to get rich? What are you going to do to stand out apart from what you are already doing?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 10 күн бұрын

Not doing it to get rich (though obviously that'd be nice one day) doing it to make a wonderful product and create a community built around education and sharing knowledge and passion for coffee in the UK. Maybe that's what makes us different?

@TazBo-wd2ig 10 күн бұрын

@ that’s why I love you guys!!!

@ForgeValleyRoasters 9 күн бұрын

Haha thank you 🙏

@TheArgetho 12 күн бұрын

Great Video !

@ForgeValleyRoasters 10 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏🙏

@JamieRTanner 13 күн бұрын

Super interesting seeing another roasters day in the life! Is there a decision behind the lower/slower roasting style?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 12 күн бұрын

Honestly it's just what worked for this coffee, it was quite a high ferment and no matter how I messed with it I got the best results that way. I'm currently roasting a Uganda that's so insanely dense that it also benefits from the same. If you roast it too fast it's too vegetal and not pleasing to taste. On the flip side I've got a Rwanda that likes a nice speedy and light roast and comes out tasting like sweet tea! So it's different every time I'm learning!

@bhagmeister 13 күн бұрын

thank you kindly for sharing. I notice you haven’t included capital equipment (e.g., roaster, grinders, makers) or energy to power the equipment in your cost structure.

@ForgeValleyRoasters 13 күн бұрын

Heya yes I should update this with where we are at in year 2. We have LPG costs calculated now we have a year of data. But I wouldn't include capital expenditure (such as equipment) in the item costs/profitability because that's recorded as an asset to the business with a depreciating value over time.

@hfldn8009 13 күн бұрын

It’s 12am and I’m just so grateful for your videos this is so inspiring informative, I’m from London and I’ve started importing for wholesale but I’ve been thinking of roasting my own coffee as an extra revenue stream for my business. Can’t thank you enough and your house is so beautiful congratulations also your apron 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@ForgeValleyRoasters 13 күн бұрын

Haha you are welcome and thanks for the comments! You are importing green beans already you mean?

@tastechaser3849 14 күн бұрын

I’m so happy ! Congratulations

@ForgeValleyRoasters 13 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@nickheust147 15 күн бұрын

Also, have you tried to do pour overs?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 15 күн бұрын

We figured it wasn't very practical without any washing up facilities, could only make a tiny amount in relation to the volume of footfall. But if we did one inside with facilities this might be doable, would need a fair few though!

@nickheust147 15 күн бұрын

Why don’t you sell normal size cups of coffee?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 15 күн бұрын

Not allowed by the event organisers. We found in most cases they have established 'coffee shop' vendors and if we wanted our stall we had to not compete hence the 'samples'

@jimschofield968 16 күн бұрын

Very tricky to keep focus on your words with the high pitched background ringing noise

@ForgeValleyRoasters 16 күн бұрын

Yea that's valid when I do this next time I'll find some sort of noise cancelling software. The frequency of the motor seems to really aggravate the mic!

@yellowking3970 17 күн бұрын

Absolutely bloody splendid.

@ForgeValleyRoasters 17 күн бұрын

👏👏

@XMaymoX 17 күн бұрын

I roast on a very small scale for myself but am considering roasting for friends and work colleagues, and charging them. I am interested in the price of green coffee, atm I pay abt £16 uk per kg. I am only buying 4kg at a time. I don't think that I will be able to even break even on a bag if I skimp on some of the more commercial costs. At what volume could I expect the price of green coffee to reduce?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 17 күн бұрын

Yup definitely a challenging one but I'm afraid it won't really drop until you're buying full sacks which are about 60kg (sometimes larger) OR unless you can find a smaller independent importer. Is there a reason why you cant price it the way you need to in order to make money and see if your market will accept that? No point in running a business for free :)

@XMaymoX 17 күн бұрын

@ForgeValleyRoasters there is probably a economics of scale where below a certain volume it will be very difficult to make a profit, after that as costs cost come down then profit is possible. I'm not sure if I really want to make a business, I think that I will stick to a 1kg roaster and keep it as a hobby. Maybe charge work colleagues to help recoup some of the cost.

@ForgeValleyRoasters 9 күн бұрын

Yea you are right on the scale thing, it's really a volume game sadly. But I think you have a good plan for getting started! ☺️

@southpawmasonry 18 күн бұрын

Is that a Cormorant roaster in the background?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 17 күн бұрын

It certainly is!! Love it! Do you have one?

@southpawmasonry 16 күн бұрын

@ I do! CR600 LP fuel. It was my second roaster. I’m working with a Mill Ciity 1.5kg now. Use the CR600 for sampling.

@ForgeValleyRoasters 9 күн бұрын

Awesome! I love that little Cormorant!!

@maximuschan5235 18 күн бұрын

Hello from Bath. Really love the video ~❤ Lower the air flow might help with less energy loss if you want it cleaner and juicier. You could try to roast with more convection heat than conduction. As the profile shows, ET(hot air) could not keep up with the BT, past 9mins the air is cooling down the bean and heating with conduction and radiation heat which is not very efficient(example:airfryer bakes faster than oven). Different roasters may vary depending on their design but showing the ET curve can help with understanding the energy level inside. If my guessing is correct, this batch has quite dry mouthfeel 😅

@ForgeValleyRoasters 17 күн бұрын

Love this detailed suggestion thank you for sharing it! I have played with airflow before but on mine it comes with a risk of excessive buildup of chaff so I definitely don't have a lot of wiggle room in this area. I also have a feeling that maintaining warmer air is going to add a lot of momentum and speed up the development phase when what I really want is a faster drying phase (leaving myself lots of room to play with later on in the roast). That being said I'm always up for an experiment so I'll try a slight drop in airflow as the roast progresses and I'll let you know my findings!

@dang88100 24 күн бұрын

Hi Chris, i noticed you have said in other videos that you have another job and that this is a second job for you. Seeing the size and scale up that you have already achieved from a sample roaster to a 5kg roaster, im surprised this hasnt become your full time job. What do you do for a living and how do you fit it all in?

@ForgeValleyRoasters 24 күн бұрын

Well sadly coffee isn't a get rich quick scheme so we quickly became busy but it takes real scale to start replacing income. My day job is as a consultant specialised in frontline worker productivity BUT I'm just going on an unpaid sabbatical over Christmas to help support things as we grow!

@dang88100 24 күн бұрын

Hi Chris, i just discovered your page, i want to say i think it's brilliant that you have started this, there is a fair bit of content out there, but i find its mostly American channels. Nothing wrong with that! But great to see a channel that is more directly relatable to me. My personal circumstances are that i have found a great love for coffee and all things related over the last year. Im currently a buolder and looking for a more sustainable future job so im considering coffee roasting. Your advice is invaluable. Ive got loads of questions, but ill leave it here for now. Just know, this page is brilliant! Congratulations, keep it up! 🥳

@ForgeValleyRoasters 24 күн бұрын

That's kind words thank you and very happy that you find it useful! I think it's a wonderful hobby, craft and business and everyone should get the opportunity to learn about how wonderful the product is that so many of us consume on a daily basis. I'm learning more every day myself!!

@DaYa-cj3wz 27 күн бұрын

Hi I'm from India... I'm willing to start a roasting business here... Could you please help me with the details of pricing, equipment required etc...

@ForgeValleyRoasters 24 күн бұрын

Heya 👋 welcome to the channel! If you check out one of my earlier videos I covered all our startup costs with a breakdowm too!

@alexdonger5816 28 күн бұрын

Three weeks to opening and it looks like that? I'll subscribe just to follow your journey the next weeks, because if you manage to pull this of it will be monumental! Work hard and I wish you the best of luck!

@ForgeValleyRoasters 28 күн бұрын

Where's the faith?! 😅 We'll get it done, stay tuned! 💪💪

@LykeDarylBasilio 28 күн бұрын

Amazing! Thanks for sharing

@ForgeValleyRoasters 28 күн бұрын

You are very welcome 🤗 what do you want to see next?

@UncleSkiBum 29 күн бұрын

Sweet as, i have an ikawa home roaster and would love to learn more about roasting, selecting beans and profiles etc. Also can we buy your coffee anywhere or are you wholesale only?

@yellowking3970 29 күн бұрын

Good lord. This is absolutely immense. Well done you two. Massively deserved

@ForgeValleyRoasters 29 күн бұрын

Thank you 😊 it's overwhelmingly exciting to have a crack at the shop side of things just 🤞

@manishvelide5353 29 күн бұрын

They have fitted the sink! For chocolate 'Cocoa Amore' is one of the finest.

@ForgeValleyRoasters 29 күн бұрын

Haha yes sink is in and it's huuuuuge 😅 I edited out me talking about it for over a minute! Chocolate recommendation noted!

@kelvin1981ful Ай бұрын

This one was really a comprehensive walk-through. Very informative indeed and best wishes to you, Tash and the team.