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@YTSparty 2 сағат бұрын

you have to convince all these home builders to stop building outward and start coming back to Detroit. This building is kind of worthless without a neighborhood.

@ThisBuildingMatters 38 минут бұрын

I mostly agree, but if a project is done right, a building like this could be a catalyst for change. A mixed-use development that added to the neighborhood could attract new development!

@beaurex4756 6 сағат бұрын

Very interesting video, didn't know about this building. Thanks.

@ThisBuildingMatters 6 сағат бұрын

Thanks for checking it out 🤙

@autoguy57 7 сағат бұрын

When I see what’s been going on in Detroit these last 50 plus years it’s a shame. Pumping money into downtown and trying to attract Gen X, Y, and Z is failing but no one will admit that. The neighborhoods disappear, but the bars and downtown entertainment venues continue on…

@ThisBuildingMatters 7 сағат бұрын

You'll do just about anything to disparage Detroit and the people who care about it, and I don't understand it. More young people are moving to Detroit now than there have been in years. That number is still small, but there are positives to take home. We're getting more greenways, people are actually talking about transit now, and there are new developments in the neighborhoods.

@autoguy57 7 сағат бұрын

@ More “greenways” because of housing and former businesses demolished, what has been done for the NEIGHBORHOODS? Pump money into downtown is like trying to plug a sieve. I remember when those little store fronts now being torn down were viable businesses that PAID TAXES. Remember the fiasco of Detroit City Airport? The City moved part of a cemetery to attract more airlines, where is that venture at now?? You and those like you are a joke, just bleeding the city of what’s left.

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 сағат бұрын

Why are you so angry? How am I bleeding the city of what's left by living here and paying taxes? BTW, most of Detroit's greenways are former railways. You're stuck in the past and unnecessarily angry at everything related to Detroit.

@autoguy57 3 сағат бұрын

…and you’re in denial. Decades of economic stagnation coupled with major shifts in industry away from manufacturing toward technology services sectors. An initial budget of $50 million dollars dedicated solely to residential demolitions has grown exponentially by 2013 when Mike Duggan became the mayor’s office. When people can bike or walk down Jefferson, Van Dyke, Gratiot, or even down Beaubian I’ll buy into your hopes and dreams for Detroit. I’ve lived in Detroit for over 70 years, went to school in Detroit, and built a life in Detroit, only to see continued “look the other way” disease fool so many. Am I angry? YOU BET! A once vibrant city that was better than Chicago is now a shell of itself. Tell Kwame and the rest of the criminals running this town to build their little piece of their paradise. Others like you will let them.

@ThisBuildingMatters 3 сағат бұрын

What am I in denial about? I understand the city’s issues. Being overly negative doesn’t help anything. I moved to Detroit because it was a place that presented hope. I’ve never lived downtown or in a trendy neighborhood, and none of my friends do either. Lots of people are buying outside of downtown. You’re choosing to see only the negative when there’s a lot to be positive about.

@kirkmarusak7800 8 сағат бұрын

Maybe the city of Detroit can provide some loans to rehabilitate these ethnic halls, such the Lithuanian Hall on W. Vernor. That is one way to remember Detroit's immigrant past while making these buildings useful again. In Europe, buildings are rarely torn down but are reused for a variety of purposes over centuries.

@ThisBuildingMatters 8 сағат бұрын

Not a bad idea, Kirk. We have quite a few that are worse for the wear. Between this one, the Ukrainian Workers Home near Hamtramck, the Bohemian National Hall on Tillman, the Italian Lombardi Club on McDougall, and the Finn Hall on 14th, that would be an amazing project. I am certain that I'm missing some of them, too.

@MrFullService 10 сағат бұрын

Seems to me, and possibly counter to what some say, the East side of Detroit is generally in worse shape the West side. In any case, there are other buildings with collapsed roofs which IMO can be renovated...carefully. I think of the Highland Towers on the east side of Woodward Ave. in Highland Park. Certainly parts of that building can still be salvaged. Another group of buildings in similar condition, in this case because of the neglect of the Ilitch family, are the three apartment buildings facing on 2nd Avenue directly behind the Masonic Temple. There's no reason whatsoever that these can't have a roof reconstructed. However, that will probably not happen because people just don't want to bother. I'm suddenly recalling the now refurbished James Scott mansion in the Cass Corridor area. The walls were caving, there was no roof...nothing. Much of the originals stones had fallen below and were used in the rebuilding. And of course, a new roof was put on. I sincerely hope that concerned and related parties move on this one. Thanks for your efforts.

@ThisBuildingMatters 9 сағат бұрын

If somebody wants to do it and they have money, there is always a way to save a building, no matter what the issues with it are. It’s just tough to find people with money who care about this stuff…ha. Thanks for checking it out and for the insightful comment! Those Ilitch-owned buildings are stunning. Such a shame what they have been allowed to do to them.

@pb_8206 10 сағат бұрын

Only 100 years old building and already destroyed.

@ThisBuildingMatters 10 сағат бұрын

In my opinion, it isn't in that bad of shape, considering it hasn't seen maintenance in 30+ years. Still a shame, either way!

@PinetopJackson2 11 сағат бұрын

This is the first building I DIDN’T go into. You know the story…I moved to MI 2 & a half years ago and became immediately enamored & obsessed with Detroit urbex. I didn’t know anybody yet, so I was going to places solo…Ruddiman Elementary, the Yamasaki boxing ring, the radio station behind Brady Elementary, and of course the nearby Packard. Being new to the city, I really liked when buildings had their original name carved above the door, taking the guesswork out of it for me. When I found the Slovak home, that front door was secure, but I found a rickety wooden ladder off the side. Feeling sure of myself, like yeah nothing can keep me out, I stood the ladder up & climbed to the 2nd floor window…and just gazed at the devastation. Then a squirrel ran across the beam, directly toward me right at face level, startled me so much I almost fell off the ladder! Once I calmed down and reassessed my surroundings, I came to the decision that, no, I don’t really need to get inside every single abandoned building I come across. There are some that can just be admired from the outside. It was a big moment for me 😅

@ThisBuildingMatters 11 сағат бұрын

Ha, this is great. I am very familiar with that ladder; it has been there for YEARS! 😂 The early days of exploring a new place are always the best. So much adventure. I still love learning about new places in Detroit, even now! You've come a long way, Pinetop 🫡

@Offthbadan 11 сағат бұрын

I often wonder what was the purpose of this structure. Great architecture. GREAT VIDEO! 👍🏿

@ThisBuildingMatters 11 сағат бұрын

Thank you for checking it out! I really like this place, too.

@allenwayne2033 13 сағат бұрын

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@ThisBuildingMatters 13 сағат бұрын

Thanks for checking it out, Allen! 🤙

@loumcast Күн бұрын

Very impressed with the amount of detail provided regarding the history of this church. Excellent job! I liked this video so much, that I subscribed.

@ThisBuildingMatters 13 сағат бұрын

Thank you for the kind words! Much appreciated. I put out a new video every Friday! 😃

@ess1163 Күн бұрын

if you didnt know- you would think think was 1930s Poland or Europe after the war. all the derelct and abandoned building in the area. SO SO Sad and irresponsible of City Elders. come on owner. Duggan. Get Whitmer involved. There are grants. EVENTS HAll. Senior Housing. Markets and stores for food and healthcare. make whole area cheap rent and artists living.

@ThisBuildingMatters 13 сағат бұрын

To be honest, it's mostly green space at this point. There are a few abandoned buildings, but it's mostly vacant lots where houses, businesses, etc. used to be. The issue with adaptive reuse that features housing is that there isn't anything else to anchor the neighborhood, so a project like this would have to be the anchor. If you could do it right and create a project that featured housing and a few small stores, like a grocery and coffee shop/laundry, you might be in business! There's a ton of green space nearby for new developments after the anchor is completed. Thank you for watching and the comment! 😃

@ess1163 Күн бұрын

we need housing. Make it a loft multi unit housing/ there are govt grants still availablr. get the Detroit Historical society involved AASP. Pole town has a network also.

@ThisBuildingMatters Күн бұрын

It would be incredibly cool if they were to go with housing to make it three stories inside the sanctuary. Very unique. I think that they would have to build a mixed-use development on the vacant property next to it, where the rectory used to be. If there was a mini grocery store and coffee shop there and a ton of new units there, all of the vacant land nearby would be primed for redevelopment!

@RobertPaskulovich-fz1th Күн бұрын

More than 100 Catholic parishes have closed in Metro Detroit.

@ThisBuildingMatters Күн бұрын

That doesn't surprise me at all, Robert.

@rickprusak9326 Күн бұрын

Why not transform the church building into a homeless shelter or affordable housing facility? 😢

@ThisBuildingMatters Күн бұрын

Under private ownership, it's up to the owner. Hopefully, we can see adaptive reuse soon!

@gloriafritz6303 Күн бұрын

My grandparents were married at St.Stanislaus in 1918 thank you for this info will have to go and take pictures before its gone

@ThisBuildingMatters Күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing, Gloria. I do not think that it is in immediate danger at this time, but it's a great one to photograph either way!

@timfronimos459 2 күн бұрын

Beautiful but sad video. Miracle of miracles !!!! would be my wish.. St Stanislaus would experience a rejuvenation similar to St John Cantius in Chicago. A dead parish become the center of 'new evangelization' that draws people to a more traditional style of worship devoted to evangelization. a hub of faith w small markets, affordable housing and medical. the center of a mini district promoting life and prosperity in other settings the art community and LGBT crowd are often a spring board for community regrwoth. Then The hipsters follow, then so-called Gentrification Then merchants and chains feel safe to return. Jobs, families and schools later become the bedrock of a community w a faith community developing as one of the community needs. Why not 'rebuild/regrow' a community in semi-reverse order. Just a though and a lot of wishful thinking. sorry for the stream of consciousness style I attended the Grotto parish for years and they are still holding on.

@ThisBuildingMatters 2 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing all of this, Tim. I am hopeful for this church building!

@davidrigsby4828 2 күн бұрын

Could be changed into some cool condos? At least you it would be saved.

@LLBP. 3 күн бұрын

It's beautiful. Please save it. ❤

@ThisBuildingMatters 3 күн бұрын

I'm hopeful!

@gregdobson64 3 күн бұрын

If people would just start going back to church things like this wouldn’t be an issue. So sad.

@ThisBuildingMatters 3 күн бұрын

The neighborhood around the church was almost entirely abandoned. I don't think people not going to church is really the issue here!

@pastortravisj.robertson2274 3 күн бұрын

15 yrs ago it was $75k they want 600k now it’s only worth 150k

@ThisBuildingMatters 3 күн бұрын

I guess it's worth whatever someone will pay...but I agree, the price is much too high.

@jonathanstensberg 4 күн бұрын

Closed in the 80s, likely hasn’t seen proper maintenance since the 70s. It would probably take $5M just to keep it standing. And given the neighborhood remains mostly abandoned, it’ll be hard to make a business case for any adaptive reuse. It will take a special kind of philanthropist to save this one.

@ThisBuildingMatters 3 күн бұрын

The church closed around 2012; however, as you said, it hasn't seen major maintenance for a long time. It'll take the right person, that's for sure!

@jonathanstensberg 3 күн бұрын

@@ThisBuildingMatters Closed as a Catholic church in the 80s. That's unfortunately the date that matters. Subsequent owners have used it as a slowly-rotting shell, not as a proper building.

@chisbang53 4 күн бұрын

Pleasantly surprised by the food at the Black Horse! Next time I eat there I'll check out the Bank Bar.

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

It's delicious, right! Thanks for checking out the video.

@PhilipStall-f8t 4 күн бұрын

This is a beautiful church I remember going there with my aunt hopefully they don't tear it down and try to preserve it and raise money❤❤❤❤❤❤😢

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

I am hopeful for it, too, Philip!

@patricianeumann4753 4 күн бұрын

Homeless veterans could benefit greatly. Transforming this structure into a space that houses veterans, providing a community space. Possibly including a workout area, basketball court, a library/ computer room. An area to grow a garden on the grounds. Too many empty structures in the city going to waste when they could be repurposed for our displaced veterans.

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

Whereas I agree with your overall sentiment, placing homeless veterans (or any group that faces barriers) in a community that isn't currently walkable or offers job prospects doesn't make much sense. There isn't a grocery store within walking distance. If you could convert the church into a hub that included a few of those things, like a grocery store and a job center alongside the apartments, that would be really cool and beneficial for those staying there and those already in the neighborhood.

@autoguy57 4 күн бұрын

Please pronounce Joseph Campau correctly!

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

pLeAsE pRoNoUnCe JoSePh CaMpAu CoRrEcTlY

@autoguy57 4 күн бұрын

@ Figures…

@autoguy57 4 күн бұрын

The PLAV in Wyandotte and the Polish-American Cultural Center now carry on the traditions. The City of Detroit only cares about its Murzyn population

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

If that's true, then why are almost all of the companies that get huge tax handouts from the city and state owned and operated by white people like Dan Gilbert and the Ilitch family? You're a clown.

@autoguy57 4 күн бұрын

@ Do you know how many tax breaks, land deals, and other incentives have been given to the City over the last FIFTY years? The only one that’s taken has been what Ford just completed in the old Michigan Depot. We’ve heard over snd over again through the years how “Detroit is coming back,” yet nothing but promises. Those like you lackeys deserve a failed city, YOU ARE the reason the city’s in the condition it’s in! Did your parents have any children that lived??

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

You speak like a person who hasn't been outside of downtown in twenty years. If you think the only tax-funded project that has been successful in Detroit is MCS, you're out of your damn mind. The Book Cadillac Hotel received Brownfield Tax Credits, Broderick Tower, the David Whitney Building, The Metropolitan Building, and the Strathmore Hotel utilized historic preservation tax credits, and the Douglass Branch of the DPL, Durfee Elementary School (Durfee Innovation Society), the Guardian Building, and the Bell Building (NSO Bell Building) all used city and state tax resources. There are so many more examples of successful projects in Detroit. “I don’t know about it, so it doesn’t exist” doesn’t make you right.

@autoguy57 4 күн бұрын

@ You’re a Snowflake trying to make sense out of insanity. The very building projects you write about are the SAME projects that have been going on for years you dope! If you knew ANYTHING about Detroit you might be able to speak somewhat intelligently about it, but your responses show that either you don’t live in the city or just read what the News/Free Press “reports.” All the old schools that were turned into various STEM experiments have failed. Those “projects you write about all MUST USE State funding because Detroit itself has no money! Take a drive up Gratiot or Van Dyke from Downtown in the suburbs, THAT itself spells nothing but FAILURE. What a dolt you are.

@jerisharpe906 4 күн бұрын

What a beautiful church. Such a shame to destroy the interior of God's house❤❤❤❤

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

It is still stunning inside!

@jerisharpe906 4 күн бұрын

Used as a Catholic church. We need more Priest's & church's in these days of hatred instead of brotherly love.

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

I'd say we need more community, and if that means a church, that is fine! Thanks for the comment.

@evalinawarne1337 4 күн бұрын

Be be nice to keep and repair. So much history

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

I am hopeful for this place!

@knight20102 4 күн бұрын

Given the coming illumination it should be renovated into a Catholic church!!! Stupid america has so many cliches for its buildings. Mr X sold the interior, Mr Y neglected it, the new Freeway isolated it. Get out your cars and walk places and then you'll discover buildings like this and you might lose some weight as well!!! Build some houses there to create a congregation for the church!! Mark my words there will be queues out the door of churches.

@ThisBuildingMatters 4 күн бұрын

I can't say that I agree that churches will come into favor again; however, there is something to be said about the rise of 'third spaces,' or places that you can go to hang out for free that aren' your home or workplace/school. We lost that when churches went out of favor. We need more community in the community!