For higher aspect ratio gliders there is an increased possibility to exit from a full stall with cravattes. In full stall, as you are flying backwards, the wing tips are folded and flapping towards the leading edge of the wing. To rebuild the span of the glider you have to gradually release the brakes until most of the glider is open and then let the glider fly. That will allow the glider to go back to flying clean, without any cravattes. As you can see, I did not manage that all the time. What glider do you fly? Where?

​@@florinelzx6r Yes, that's what I thought. I fly in Russia, in the mountains of the Caucasus. The wing of the B class is Paraavis Joy2. The Siv course was held in Abkhazia in Gagra. To get access to flights at our resorts in Krasnaya Polyana.

Salut Alex. Nu, nu instructor. Doar foarte pasionat 🤣. Tu? Faci parapanta?

@@florinelzx6r Da. Sunt foarte pasioant de munte in general(in special zona Bucegilor cu abruptul prahovean). Am facut cursul de incepatori si am vreo 60 de zboruri cu 3h de airtime adunat. Pot sa decolez singur si sa aterizez fara probleme. Numai ca voiam sa cer cateva informatii despre zona vaii Prahovei inclusiv decolarile de la Caraiman, cota 2000 si omu, vreme samd. Daca ai avea putin timp:) Multumesc!

Echipamentul il am cumparat

Thank you so much 😀

I thought this is what I have done :)...

@ i ‘m not an expert so I don’t want to argue just for the sake of arguing, I asked because I didn’t see the hands up step after stalling the glider. From my experience on siv first you stall, then you go full hands up and then to backfly position.

Hehe... then we are 2 non-experts discussing the subject :). If you see stall #1 and #2, they are done the "classical way"... bury the hands and pray. Both me and my instructor (he is actually acro guy and flying acro gliders) discovered that it might not be the best way for high aspect ratio gliders and we started experimenting with 2-stage stall. It's kind of hard to see on this gopro angle how far the hands go up when releasing after the first stage, I think you have to go more with the feel and visual of the glider: the idea is to allow the glider to regain her shape with the tips stalled and then stop her again in order to stop the center. This should prevent the gliders with higher aspect getting the wing tips tangled behind and ending up with a big ball of cloth overhead... So, 81 of the 83 stalls were done with this technique: break the glider, stall the tips, release to allow her regain the shape and then hands down experimenting different backfly positions... with variable results... Where did you do your SIV? Which instructor?

@ I did in Annecy with Alex Ciuhandu. Going in the summer for more :).

Thanks man for finding something nice to say! Agree, they were far from perfect but they still felt like a huge achievement! Only after 40-50th stall I felt that I have enough time to think about entry types, heading, practice hand positions, time better my exits... Anyway... time to clear my HDD of these clips so I will upload a compilation these 83 full stalls... for a winter evening and for me to watch it next time when I go to Oludeniz :)

@@mug6804 I was quite happy with my landing… the guy that landed in a palm tree before the bus stop had a way more difficult task… 🤩

@@florinelzx6r Your landing was perfect! I just thought the LZ was very crowded lol! One day I will be half as good as you are at flying!

​@@mug6804 Thanks for appreciation!!! Landing at Oludeniz is always interesting... "Keep your eyes and ears wide open" kind of place :). Nice show, though, for the evenings if you already chill holding a beer...

I think it's the camera lens making it looks sketchier than it is lol

@@craigc8682 why the glider behaves like that? When you slow the glider too much, it stops flying and it just falls out of the sky. At this point it just behaves like a big, unstable parachute. You have then to find a good moment to let her fly again and become controllable…

@@mhoda No way… just have been postponing full stalls maneuvers for a long time now. I got now a good opportunity to play. A bit stressful at first but it’s quite addictive… 🤣Have you tried it?

It is probably the best place to play this kind of things 🙂You are definitely talented 🙂 I tryed few with 777 King at Bygland 🙂so I have some kind of picture how it can goes 😃but I tryed to go just close to stall and spin with Enzo and there was quite big space and warning time to react 🙂

Gopro for the video file. Garmin Fenix 5x for the GPS track (GPX format). Dashware to embed the telemetrics onto the video...

@@florinelzx6r very very nice, thank you for the feedback. If you will be ever flying in Slovenia give me a ping.

@@florinelzx6r Really nice job both from the SIV and the video. Can I ask what you set the garmin to for the flight (i.e. Run, Track Me, Hike, etc). Thanks

@ Thank you! Oludeniz delivered a very good experience indeed! I defined an “activity” on my watch, called Paragliding with a couple of data windows mainly focused on ground speed and altitude. The watch is recording the same data regardless of what activity you do, the customizations are only to show the data fields you need.

@@florinelzx6r Great idea, thanks!

Esthetics were not part of the evaluation criteria at this point but no worries... don't you even think I got any cookies from the instructor either... It was work in progress and, gradually, in the following flights, some of the stalls got much better... and some of them were way more terrible. Hopefully all of the attempts are contributing for a safer future, that's the whole point.

Right on! And the instructor congratulating him is worrying.

that's correct, good observation. They broke after the first full stall: one line close to the right tip on the upper cascade and another one closer to the middle right of the glider but on the second cascade so affecting a big part of the trailing edge. I decided to continue the exercise, I was curious how much the behavior will be affected...

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hi Frazer. Yes, nice meeting you in St. Andre. If I remember correctly, the first time we raced together was in Montclar in the Gin Wide Open, in much better weather! Flying so far north is a privilege even in summer... so good conditions in October need to be specially celebrated :). Looking forward to meet you again? No Colombia for you?!

I use an UltraBip mini vario/gps + Navigator on the phone. I have used this setup for the last 2 competitions and I start to believe that I don't need much more than that... Flying in Bergen area can be very rewarding... when there is reasonable weather! Lots of beautiful places to explore, beside the main flying area (Arna and Ulriken). Did you manage to come back from Os?

@@florinelzx6r nope. landet in same area. lost in the woods :-) on bontveit dalen.

Yes, it was. There is a problem with the calendar in Norway this year… after July we got November and only now August is starting! How’s Løkken? I heard there was some weather just suitable for kayak competitions in Denmark in the last weeks…

​​@@florinelzx6r quite stormy now but few days ago no wind, in south lots of Bergen weather so they could do kayaking the streets 👍

Thanks a lot, Luis! I am glad you like them! Winter is coming soon so it will also be a good time for me to re-visit them!

Thanks! That's right! Thanks for the heads up! I went yesterday afternoon and picked it. It was also a good incentive to have the hike up and the flight down. Yesterday was very good flying conditions but the sky was not that pretty as in the previous days! Have you been flying these days?

Very nice playing arena. The airspace is only adding to the challenge! Where do you fly now?

Hehe.. you are so right: in some of the places it was tedious work... Well.. there is a trick: when I turn my head to the left the mic from the gopro gets exposed to the airflow... so when you hear increased wind noise in the video it might be very well some terrible cursing involved :) What is the next comp for you?

True that! I noticed that my heart rate goes higher when I get lower :). I should also compare with another HR monitor. I use the HR monitor from a Garmin Fenix, I am curious to see what other types would report...

Glad to hear it! Soon winter is here and I will use these for a proper task debrief :)

Glad you enjoyed it! I am quite new to Saint Andre area but will surely be back next year for more. The area is quite interesting and makes a good racing arena. Do you also participate in competitions?

Thank you! That's the plan!

the beeping sound is a variometer. It's indicating if I am going up or down: the faster it beeps, higher the frequency, the faster I am climbing in a thermal...When sinking it is making a low frequency sound. I have to adjust the threshold for this sink alarm as it kick in even for -2m/s and it can be quite annoying :)

It sure is! It was my second time to Laragne. I think it's very good arena for competitions but I would surely be back for some XC flying... in some of the days it really felt that we could go very very far! Where do you live/fly?

@@florinelzx6r Thanks for your answer. I live in the middle of Germany, hills with 30/200 m height between launch and landing. Flyings since 1990, since a lot of years only triangle, if possible... E 3

Yes, it was, despite the weather not cooperating every day! I miss the action already!

Thank you! Fingers crossed for better weather! How was the Stellar in the comp? Was your glider dark colors with some orange stripes? I think we flew together some of the times...

@@florinelzx6r I flew the Yellow Blue Stellar RS. The dark orange Swing was flown by Benjamin van Dijk, and he's flying the Nyos RS 2. I like the Stellar, but compared to most gliders in the competition, it's a bit too slow. :)

Definitely tricky... I went into that valley as there were some beautiful clouds forming above and I was quite sure I will get a strong core within the protected area from wind... I got some but way after my comfort altitude vanished. Lesson learned...

What's your regular flying place?

@@florinelzx6r the absolute bush, man. Balklinten in northern Sweden. 200m high with low hills surrounding. A handful of good XC days a year and generally wet summers. I will be in Annecy for an siv in late September and hopefully some xc before and after...maybe I can fit in a Dourmalouse run. Thx again for posting your videos!

Thank you! I had a good time and I think the organization really made the best out of the given conditions! See you soon! No Colombia for you?

@@florinelzx6r I have to save my leave for the summer, my kids, my partner, my flying... I have to work in the winter - one more week in the Dolomites and that's me until the end of March - helps to have lots of happy memories though!! Col Rodella from the 23rd 🤞

Thanks for watching and see you at the next event, Marco!

Hehe... the registration for BWO 2025 started! Are you in?

Hey buddy! Here is the update: she is ok, got super good care by a dedicated rescue team and, after that in the hospital. I hope I get the chance to meet you one day to get a in person lesson about ethics as you seem to be quite confident you know everything. Wish you the best!

@@florinelzx6r glad she's okay! And thanks for the mature response, proving my point. It's pretty simple - someone's safety and wellbeing is more important than you having a good time, and should never be seen as an inconvenience All the best to you

You should have mention that in the youtube video! But yeah, I am happy to hear the pilot is more or less OK. #VideoDownVote

Yes. She got a helicopter ride to the hospital. Ankle fracture and surgery and on the path to recovery already.

Thanks for watching! It was a good start of the competition!

Surfing the clouds on the east/windward side of the Montagne de Coupe really paid off. Same was for the last task, it was more lifty than the westerly side...

Thank you! Yes, it was some good flying!

Mon service en vol était quelque peu limité. Je n’apprécie pas beaucoup RedBull, mais c’est certainement plus facile à transporter qu’un double expresso 🤣

@@florinelzx6r Ils font

Ils font des camelbaks de 1,5l et plus et on peut mettre du pastaga 😂

My pleasure! Yep, indeed, it seems a very unstable week but we can still hope to get some action! Some of the models predict less/later thunderstorms during the day so maybe we have a chance. British Championship called for British Weather… 🤣

Thanks! It was a fantastic week with some of the best flying conditions! Why were you not here, in the competition?

@@florinelzx6r Working. Annecy in 10 days. Free / XC flying.

Thanks Paulo. We got Laragne at its best, O think: light winds, good gradient and high cloudbase. It was actually easy flying… even if a little strong!

Glad you enjoyed. Laragne was great!

Thank you. Glad to know you liked it. I do the same… when I follow my friends on livetracking it really helps to see how the area looks like…