Don’t forget about the CRV Fuel Cell that’s been out for a few months now. Lease deals pretty good with various options.

WRT Iwatani & Nel, it has been reported that Nel abandoned Iwatani since the suit so in June, Iwatani hired an operations manager (who use to work at True Zero). Just last week, Iwatani's Seal Beach station has reopened (24/7) and they are reopening Corona (M-F 8-3, check station status). So Iwatani appears to be doing their best despite the situation with Nel. They have four other completed stations that should see reopening in the coming months.

The amount of energy needed to keep Hydrogen in liquid form is just not feasible in a consumer car. Physics says it just can’t possibly work.

Well done for producing this video, like the format.

Liquid H2 - just boils away if it isn't kept at -253 C. Toyota are quite literally pissing into the wind. This scam has nearly run it's course - even Trump doesn't like H2!

Nice video! I wathed your contents from Japan. The price of hydrogen fuel in Japan at the end of November is about 1,700 yen per kilogram. When converted to dollars at the current exchange rate, that's approximately $11. While the strong dollar is certainly a factor, why is hydrogen fuel so expensive in California or USA?

$180 for 348 miles of range? Dude why do you put up with this shit?

It’s supposed to be in pounds to kg ?

Thank you so much I was seriously looking into a Hydrogen car - I live less then 2 miles from a station - because of your channel I ended buying a used Model 3 Performance - I am so glad i chose the Tesla

I know this video is old but I have a 2023 Toyota mirai limited how much you guys think I will pay for it what I know the msrp is 68

HELL NO TO HYDROGEN!!

I see this car and the Nexo here and there. Are they worth it?

$180 for 225 miles (2019 Mirai)

Love the car no issues fueling Hydrogen no lines 6 minutes to fill. I plan ahead also having an extra car helps. If H2 fuel ever goes to $15kg is a homerun.

$180 gets me 14,400 miles in my tesla. And I spend 5 seconds for each fill up.

The problem isn't the car itself, but rather the infrastructure and the greed of suppliers.

If Trump gets his way with tariffs on imported vehicles, the Mirai, produced in Japan, will not be economically feasible in the U.S. There is hope with the CR-V e:FCEV from Honda. It's going to be made in Ohio. Toyota will have to make an H2 vehicle in the U.S. to avoid tariffs. As for the price of H2. Laxing the rule on renewable sourced H2 should, probably not by much, decrease the price at the pump. The future of H2 remains unclear as always. Also, Trump wants to get rid of incentives on alternative fuel vehicles. So, you'd be paying sticker on these vehicles.

Good god you picked a complete failure of car

They’ll never match EV efficiency combined with no source of H that doesn’t also use electricity today.

There are several bus agencies in California that either already have hydrogen buses or have funding to buy h2 buses. Currently, O.C., Sunline (Palm Springs), GET (Bakersfield), and AC Transit (Alameda) have h2 buses running. Some other agencies who have received funding for hydrogen buses are NCTD (Oceanside/N.San Diego), Humboldt (Eureka), Riverside and Santa Cruz. Of note to us light duty drivers, Sunline Transit will be opening soon, a publicly accessible LD station for us in Thousand Palms!!! Also, Humboldt Transit Authority will have a light duty dispenser for us in Eureka, though this is two to three years from now.

It's hard to say how the new administration will affect the hydrogen market and infrastructure. The president-elect is transactional, so if the industry praises him or gives him money, he'll support it. However, with Musk already giving him campaign money and since Musk is against hydrogen, it can be a serious issue for us.

Trump say it before let's pump more petrol. But with or without Trump hydrogen wil ending. Passed by the full electric battery car

What is the absolute highest estimated range number you have seen on the dash with a full tank and without AC on?

Elon Musk has said Hydrogen is incredibly stupid. He isn’t going to allow any government investment in Hydrogen at all. You will see it completely go away in the next few years.

I think Trump will support it 👍🏼

The Hydrogen Honda CRV is already available in certain California markets. You can only lease it and you basically have to get permission to get one. Honda verifies that you live close enough to Hydrogen stations that are actually operational. That car has less than 200 HP but leases for about the same price as a Volvo XC60 plugin hybrid that has 450+ HP and way more room. It also gets about 40 miles of electric only range but it can go more than 400 miles on a single tank of gas where the Honda can only do 270 miles and it can’t leave the state of California.

My VW NMS 2.0 TDI can do more than 400mines on a full tank :)

Thanks for the insight. These cars must soon be in museums.

Have you seen the new Hyundai Hydrogen car?

Just get a hybrid and play it safe

There are so many lawsuits building for Toyota. At this point they need to buy the cars back or refill the fuel cards yearly.

Basically, refueling stations are not widespread yet, but they are not as inconvenient as electric cars. Even if electric charging stations are as numerous as gas stations, hydrogen refueling time is still a great future.🎉

Yeah don't get a Tesla, something like an Ioniq 5 or 6 could be interesting. Depends on your price range too, the new Porsche Macan EV would be interesting but also pricey!

Hi Sir, do it take debit card at that station ?

This looks like so much fun. I can go 600 miles for a third of the price, and every single gas station has gas.

We can now count our blessings with that old V8 pickup.

H2 = most abundant element in the universe. it should in theory cost us pennies to fill up

Wow 370 miles for $180. And they say the future is hydrogen. I don’t think so at that price. I can charge my Ev for $10 for that range with my off peak electricity at home.

They have found the new business of the futur, you can see it's very rentable, this is how they plan to change their business model from petrol to continue to make more money. it makes me smile.🤣👍

Legend

If you wanted to stick with hydrogen, the plug in CRV from Honda might be interesting, would love to see you at least test drive one on camera, it gives you a enough EV only range that hunting for hydrogen would not be quite so desperate and the plug in running costs would be one tenth those of hydrogen, you would need a socket to plug it into, a regular 110V on a driveway is probably enough for your daily miles, I don't know if the CRV will come with a fuelcard too, but with a plug in, it should last a lot longer time wise. I want to know if the hydrogen is actually green, if you dig into BC's HTEC website they admit it's fossil fuel hydrogen once they run out of green (electrolyzer) hydrogen, but with no numbers given as to when that happens, I don't see any journalism at all around holding hydrogen producers or retailers accountable for their green creds, and I think a persistent KZbinr is more likely to get closer to the truth than a lazy environmental "journalist". Depreciation happens for new cars, and especially for fast moving tech, my brand new EV from 5 years ago is also worth a lot less than when I bought it, not as bad as the Mirai.

So what actually happens when there’s no more hydrogen stations? Can you buy a bulk tank and have it at home?

*****. $36 DOLLARS A KILOGRAM & (1 GALLON = 3.78KG)/4KG.....SO HOW MUCH A GALLON????? .... 36÷4= $9.00 DOLLARS A GALLON?......THE (AVERAGE) CAR TAKES (AT LEAST) ....15 GALLONS TO FILL =9/10 X 15 ....IS ABOUT $150.00 TO FILL UP.....A SMALL CAR/NOT AN SUV = HIGHWAY ROBBERY!!!!

Rivian! 😮

Toyota is at fault for this. They wanted to push a whole new fuel type but were so lazy they didn’t bother to invest in infrastructure. Tesla knew electric cars were iffy when they started so they spent lots of time and money to create a super charger network to support them. But Toyota just made the car and decided that was it. The biggest con in the fuel network sucks because there aren’t enough and they aren’t reliable. The car itself is great

2:43 I have been working on a way to fix that, but the issue is that even if my solution works (very much in question) the distance between me and you is quite large.

Have you thought about the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N for your next vehicle?

Hydrogen is for public transit, I doubt the public would adopt it with the lack of infrastructure and severe range anxiety.

If you are considering the Honda CR-V FCEV, here are some info and some of my experience with the Clarity FCEV... There are three lease options with new CR-V: * 2 year, 60,000 mile allowable, $25,000 fuel card, $489/month * 3 year, 36,000 mile allowable, $15,000 fuel card, $459/month * 6 year, 72,000 mile allowable, $30,000 fuel card, $389/month With the Clarity, people were able to extend the lease and, if they had money left over on their fuel card, they were able to extend its use. Not sure if this would occur given there are now three lease options. Also with the Clarity, maintenance costs were not included, so that may be extra expense to consider. EPA range is only 270 miles with 4.3 kg hydrogen tank, but with an EV range of 29 miles. Norm Reeves Honda in Irvine has the car right now. Car Pros Honda in El Monte is suppose to have them in the future.

zero condolences. You know what you get. Being different is not always cool or good.