No contest about that!!

No I don’t

You’d have to change my mind too lol!

@@ChilternTransportProductions Yeah Lol, Can’t Wait To Go On One

@@SN06BNF You’ll have to go to Birmingham then

@@ChilternTransportProductions Ik

True, considering it became a hoover when it transferred to Taunton 🥲 No idea how it’s doing these days, other than it was still surviving down in Cornwall not too long ago

There wasn’t any real thrash as the 10 didn’t allow for it at the Kingsdown end but the kickdown was fairly nice though! If you want some thrash to go with kickdown too, see 18501 on the 7 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6XYc6WVbr-ol7csi=LNa8kPCVw2wePPvg Also, the typo 😭

It’s very nice! This batch make for a great kip as well, they’re that comfy!

I was lucky to get on one at all last year, very hard to come by these days 🥲

Yes it is

No you can’t! Good bit of sturdy Scottish kit that, designed to deal with the harsher environments up north! My favourite for a reason

Well they do use the same engine and gearbox so…

These days I prefer Birmingham buses because they still have Tridents and B7TLs for now, it’s the place with the largest concentration of them! I’d say if you can get there, make the most of them whilst you can as they’re gradually being replaced by new electric buses

Well you would do if you’re in Kent, especially around Chatham. Which I’m guessing is where you’re based, according to your other comments?

The first half doesn’t make sense, second half is clearly a recommendation to visit Chatham. Which is funny as I was there a week ago! I filmed 6401 on 700

What do you mean?

Do you really? I somehow doubt that, there’s too much to know

I’ve got loads of videos of em mate. I live on the Stagecoach West network in Oxfordshire, have a weekly pass on one of their old style bus cards

Yes you most certainly do, I definitely know about the LN51s there and I require them for haulage. Otherwise I’d just focus more on KU02s as I only got 2 KN52s in January 2023 Thank you, glad you enjoyed!

@@ChilternTransportProductions 428 (KV02 URL) has insanely loud axles for the KV02s, better than 426 The presidents are also good- any 420-440 is good haha and the roads are much better for.kickdown than cardiff

Yes it is, a friend of mine is moving there in September. If I don’t do it then, possibly October as a sort of birthday bash I’d no doubt tie in a Cardiff Bus Citaro bash with some Newport Tridents too, get the other batches in if I can plus any on the Chepstow routes. Please tell me exactly which Citaros are kick enabled, just any advice you can offer for both cities - it might make a video or few possible!

@@ChilternTransportProductions 101 103 104 105 113 115 118 are the 63 plates which have kickdown 130 136 139 are the only Citaro 2s without kickdown All 141-152 (0530s IOM) have kickdown and hold gears We have 2 diffrent types of C2 engines Older 65 plates (ones on the 358, see my numerous videos, these are the quickest ones and the most fun Newer 17 plates, these are more unique but dont sound as nice, nontheless insanely quick when kickdowning not as fast as the 65s Unfortunately we have a RIBAS system here and kickdowning on the 121-140 triggers the harsh acceleration beep so you need a driver who doesnt care about RIBAS- pretty hard to find with management calling drivers in with bad scores- and 20mph although there are a few drivers that dont care- namely an induvidual who is frequently on the 30 between Newport and Cardiff but the 30 is now unfortunately allocated the rare but useless for revs Scania Fencers. In terms of routes its not the best out there. 96 Cardiff-Barry is allocated Citaros, hills going out to Barry and lots of 30/40mph roads when you get to the outskirts of town. 30 Cardiff-Newport if your lucky to get a Citaro towards Cardiff provides open 50mph roads Hills: 57/58 City Centre-Pontprennau, best hills in the network but 20mph, there are fast drivers that havent got much regard uphill and will floor it. 8 of our Citaros are branded for it but the route does get busy 10 of our Citaros are allocated on the 9, a bad route for kickdown but your best bet is the short 30mph section after Grangetown to the south side, 9 is my local so i enjoy the 0530s haha. DO NOT go north of town on the 9 unless the driver is already flooring it. In terms of crowds the 30mph section is the quietest bit. If you are looking for newer engined C2 kickdown (and 2 older engine variants) they operate on the C1 route which can be the "cowboy" take on Cardiff Bus and the drivers..... see my video of MB175 for a lovely canning on 20mph roads. Best bet for kickdown is the hilly section after Albany Road all the way up to Pontprennau, same for the 57/58. What i will say that it wont be easy but its worthwhile. None of our E200s got kickdown, only reason Citaros have them is because they were causing issues with them off. 307 is a E400 MMC with a uprated Topodyn setting The ex RATP omnicities are INSANELY good for kickdown, get them on a decent road and unless you get a really slow driver you can guarantee some kickdowns- this is becaise they are so restricted and slow on the first gear prompting drivers to kickdown. Irizars dont kickdown despite what my video of 782 says- no clue how that was done, i seen a fencer accideantly redline in the first gear There is one @hw8373 who goes out of his way to redline and pump throttles on buses, hope you catch him because thats an instant video. Hes often on Citaros as well and you may hear him redlning around town- mainly to say there ARE drivers that floor buses in cardiff

@@ChilternTransportProductions 420-440 are all good tridents with kickdown 420-425 being voith presidents and the rest being ZF, 428 is the best ZF as its axles are insane Newport roads are much better than Cardiff roads with most routes having a thrash section- you can simply see from the map if you want me to go into full detail feel free to.further contact me

@@ChilternTransportProductions update me.if you get some kickdowns :)

@@ChilternTransportProductions was my (very long) comment about citaros removed by youtube 😡 Check your "held for review" section My apologies if you lost it and i will have to re-write it

I’m not sure what you mean by this?

I love stagecoach buses

They do have Stagecoach Gold going for them but all I’m really bothered about are their Tridents and pre Euro 5 E300s, especially Transbus shaped ones. I want to go up to Middlesborough and film the NK05s

Harmonious too! You can see why this bus is my favourite can’t you? 😌

Oh yes

Corrected. Thanks

They did! These days I’d say if you can, go and make the most of the Tridents and B7TLs left in Birmingham whilst you still can. They’re gradually being replaced by new electric buses, it’ll probably remind you of the old London days

They got it from this video??? 😳

@@ChilternTransportProductions sounds so

@@southengtranspo Well so long as they don’t claim it’s their own work (ideally they credit my name), that’s fine. I don’t actually care for the game at all but it’s nice to get some recognition from something semi famous, haha -maybe I should start seeking royalties whilst I’m at it?-

Yes it is!

And they’re the only B9s you’re getting. Wycombe got just one more (4212) as that’s all MK had and they killed it, it was VOR for a while before closure 💀

Also… look out for a video of 6401 on 700 😏

@@ChilternTransportProductions 😁😁😁brilliant mate, I'm doing the 700 tomorrow

Nice I wanted to get Topodyn footage of the 101 but I did it in the evening (just to tick off the two Maidstone spoons) and it was down to one lane each way, so that wasn’t very fun :( Nothing like 6410 haha

@@ChilternTransportProductions Ahhh man that's annoying, I loved 6410 and 6412 too actually

I don’t think it’ll be too long until you get your wish granted 👀

@@ChilternTransportProductions 🤞🤞

How often did you get it with Reubyn driving though? Sometimes when it’s on loan to other operators, their own company men drive instead and so it’s not quite so quick

@@ChilternTransportProductions Really Good, I’ve had it with Reubyn 2 times.

I’ve just asked a well known Brummie veg and he says it’s the same ledfoot that owns both 1750 and 1772. Do bear in mind though that when they go on loan to operators like JK Travel or City Transport, it might not necessarily be the owner driving, therefore unlikely to be floored with proper simulated/pump throttle kickdown

@ChilternTransportProductions Yeah, it was not the owner driving 1772, but the guy floored it and I was surprised because I knew these don't have kickdown. Was a different story though when I had Opatre Excel T935 EAN between Aylesbury Vale Parkway and Bicster. Owner was driving and he just thrashed it down the main road, no kickdown unfortunately

As in it’s the ZF making those noises?

Thanks! I mean this is old footage from October but yeah

I was waiting to see what you’d think of this, seeing as you are local!

Cheers

Thanks! Sounds about right for a Sullivans B7TL

Same. 262 with those was a great experience, I loved my ride on 18456!

Yeah you did good considering the circumstances!

Thanks

Why?

It sure is! Strangely reminds me of the First Glasgow/Aberdeen E500s sound wise

@@ChilternTransportProductions I get what you mean

Thanks

Pressured into what exactly?

@@ChilternTransportProductions some random bus veg was trying to pressure my friend but I think I ended the beef

@@Its_thunder_pro_official. That didn’t happen on the journey I filmed, did it?

Same here. It’s boring now in comparison