@@pjimmbojimmbo1990 Anything prior to The Thunderbolt ignition is good for me!
@pjimmbojimmbo1990Күн бұрын
@@islandtoybox Thunderbolt Ignition was a Name introduced in the Mid 60s, and there were many Variations in the Design over the Years, even within Model Years.
@ericvonp2 күн бұрын
I can smell the fuel through the phone…..awesome
@islandtoyboxКүн бұрын
@@ericvonp Fish food!
@donk4994 күн бұрын
Yeah, those things were never much for power or speed. But, will run smoothly, idle like a champ, for years to come PS: Did you figure anything out on the Evinrude?
@songbird63625 күн бұрын
I don't see a rainbow on the bridge ?
@islandtoybox5 күн бұрын
@@songbird6362 I don’t name them….I guess it’s shaped like a rainbow or something. Thanks for watching!
@MegaBait16165 күн бұрын
👍 glad I found ur channel n subbed ya ....
@islandtoybox5 күн бұрын
@@MegaBait1616 Thanks. Having fun with it!
@pryan05p715 күн бұрын
Nice little motor
@EkremMitar5 күн бұрын
ljepo ide
@timbiffis63066 күн бұрын
Great video Thanks
@islandtoybox5 күн бұрын
@@timbiffis6306 Thanks, glad you liked it!
@pryan05p717 күн бұрын
The best!
@brianbowman114810 күн бұрын
Good thing you had that old Johnson to get you back to the dock.
@olejrgenkjhl50439 күн бұрын
Thank God for that one!! 😆
@donk49910 күн бұрын
OK... A few things to consider here. First, that stupid air box and gasket must be installed properly or the engine will run lean at high RPM and stall out. But, in this case the engine kind of sounds rich. Now, that damn "primer" could be an issue. It has three positions: Off/warm up/prime.... Here is a case where OMC spent more money and made things much worse... When you pull that primer all the way out, it actually pumps extra fuel into the carb through that top hose (provided you have built up pressure in the fuel line with the fuel tank primer bulb). The warm up position just allows a little extra fuel to bypass the primer and help the engine warm up through that hose on top of the carb. And OFF doesn't allow any extra fuel into the upper carb hose. One of the big mistakes many owners make is pulling the primer all the way out, starting the engine, then forgetting to push it all the way back in after it warms up a bit. So, to rule out flooding/primer malfunction, simply pull the hose off the top of the carb while the engine is misbehaving to see if it clears up. Like I said, kind of sounds rich at high speed also. So, once the primer has been ruled out then we have to revisit that GD horrible plastic carb. You replaced that little rubber hose (idle circuit pick up) which is a common issue. But I am thinking you may have forgotten to reinstall that brown colored gasket under the white fuel pick up that sits at the bottom of the bowl. Think of the old style OMC carbs and that thick donut gasket that sits between the bowl nozzle well and carb body... Leave that out and it will probably run rich at high RPM because fuel is short circuiting into the main nozzle/bypassing the high speed needle. That brown rubber gasket on this newer carb serves the same purpose as that old cork donut gasket. Now onto the crazy sync process on this engine. Gone are the days of the throttle valve being completely closed at idle...See that screw/spring above the metal throttle arm on the carb?? That is the throttle cracking screw. I forgot what the initial setting is, but the throttle valve on these carbs is actually held slightly open at idle. There is no hash mark on the throttle cam because it is suppose to be set so the cam starts pushing the carb open immediately when the throttle is advanced. There is actually an idle timing setting on these engines, see the little moveable idle timing stop on the left side of the powerhead? I'm guessing you did not mess with that so probably do not have to worry about that setting. I have forgotten just what the initial idle mixture adjustment is as well. But, it probably from what the manual says because it looks like that plastic top on the carb has been replaced. The actual syncronization process for this engine is quite "involved", way too complicated for sure. Finally, you reported that that cheesy adjustable plastic cam was broken and you cemented it back together. Are you sure the carb is opening up properly at WOT?
@islandtoybox10 күн бұрын
@@donk499 Wow! I read that about three times. Thank you for the help, I will dig into it tomorrow. I’m thinking that bottom gasket isn’t in place. The thick donut one in the middle that the main jet screws into is in place though. It is fun for me to learn these things. I appreciate the thoughtful words!!!
@donk49910 күн бұрын
@@islandtoybox "thick donut one around the main jet..."?? Glad to help, hope it works out... Those carburetors are awful, and the sync procedure is way too complicated!
@islandtoybox4 күн бұрын
You were 100% correct. The seal on the bottom was bad. Seems to work perfect after a carb rebuild kit. I will water test soon
@donk4994 күн бұрын
@@islandtoybox Cool, so happy it worked out
@VintageOutboardMan11 күн бұрын
It runs as nicely as it looks!
@donk49911 күн бұрын
I need to visit scrap piles in your area! These were actually real nice engines in spite of some horrible engineering flaws.
@islandtoybox11 күн бұрын
@@donk499 Most of our engines are salty living on the coast. They start giving folks trouble with electronics and cooling and off they go to garage sales cheap. It’s fun to be mechanical in these areas.
@donk49911 күн бұрын
@@islandtoybox I live in the northeast salt water also, most of the stuff I see in scrap piles is truly scrap! Can't believe someone chucked that beautiful 8hp in the pile!
@gregweber732513 күн бұрын
Mechanics have told me that 100:1 ratio is ok if you use your motor a lot. If just occasional use, better go 50:1. Both excellent motors. Have had both. With proper care either can last a lifetime. Hard to criticize either!
@islandtoybox12 күн бұрын
@@gregweber7325 I have just stuck with the 50/1 as all my other motors run that mix. I don’t feel I’m hurting it by doing so. It’s been running 50/1 all winter just fine.
@dailyallowance382614 күн бұрын
I remember the point onmy mini van yhey didnt like the rainy days how is this set protected
@JBOutboards16 күн бұрын
That one looks awesome. Nice save
@islandtoybox16 күн бұрын
Thanks, she will be a good salty crabbing motor!
@robinpettey867620 күн бұрын
All tree huggers are a bunch of liberals that don't have anything else to do...
@donk49920 күн бұрын
I would agree. OMC would still be in business if this exact engine could be produced today! Rugged, reliable, smooth, and simple to repair. The Evinrudes of this vintage were actually a 7.5hp, which is a completely different powerhead with its own noises. Perhaps it is just the audio quality, but yours almost sounds like it has an exhaust leak somewhere. Yeah, these were a little louder than later ones, but this one seems like it has an exhaust leak.... Loose/leaky exhaust cover perhaps? Nonetheless, yours is a beauty. These engines have an low idle quality that would compete favorably with any of today's dumb ol four strokes.
@islandtoybox20 күн бұрын
@@donk499 Well said! Thank you for the information. I will check for anything loose, but in any event I enjoy the sound. Not a piece of plastic on these!!! Great motors for sure
@donk49919 күн бұрын
@@islandtoybox Look for a leaky side exhaust cover on the powerhead...Perhaps a leaky base gasket. It should be fairly obvious is one of these spots is leaking, you will see brown/black exhaust goo coming out... OMC at its best for sure.
@rwoutdoors22 күн бұрын
Sounds great! Beautiful motor! Can’t wait to try mine out! I think yours is a 1955. In 54 they were green with a grayish stripe and 55 was green with a whitish almond stripe then 56 was when the red and white came out!
@islandtoybox20 күн бұрын
@@rwoutdoors The red and white are nice looking too. Too bad I’m a Mercy guy because these engines are nice!
@rwoutdoors20 күн бұрын
@@islandtoyboxI like them both but I’d prefer a merc lol!
@TJD65622 күн бұрын
Hi, maybe a 55 or 56 not positive but, I think they change the color in 57 to that maroon red. Then they add a fuel pump so, no pressuring the fuel tank. They do sound different from an evinrude. It could be from the design of the cowling.
@islandtoybox22 күн бұрын
@@TJD656 I absolutely love the color.
@TJD65622 күн бұрын
@islandtoybox yes, we could always tell what motor, by the color. How do you come up with all these motors and so clean.
@islandtoybox22 күн бұрын
@@TJD656 I look at the story behind them more then the mechanics as I feel confident with being able to fix them. Only 20% of my motors came to me in working condition. Most of them I enjoy and sell rather quickly. All the Evinrude motors in previous videos are gone. This one I will keep thru the summer and enjoy, then probably sell next fall
@TJD65621 күн бұрын
@islandtoybox They are a lot of fun to work on, so simple. My I ask, I believe you has 3 fifty seven evinrudes those are the ones with cursuve writing weren't they 5 1/2 hp so, how much will you get for one of those beauties.
@islandtoybox21 күн бұрын
@@TJD656 All three sold for $150 each. They went fairly quick as working motors. If they were projects maybe $80-100???
@pryan05p7122 күн бұрын
Well done. Good job saving it. It is a little noisy, interesting?!
@islandtoybox22 күн бұрын
@@pryan05p71 It’s all stock. The discharge out the back is different from the Evinrude, I like the sound, good early morning coffee fishing.
@turboricky300024 күн бұрын
I'm curious about the weight difference I've been running the old style my whole life. My favorite small motors by far. I have several. The one I run now is a 1990 9.9 Johnson with a 15 horsepower carburetor. It has the sound dampening foam in the cowl. Sounds great. Starts second pull cold and first pull hot every time.
@islandtoybox24 күн бұрын
@@turboricky3000 They are both around 75lbs. The 1993 is just a bit heavier. It has a much more aggressive prop and a true 15hp rating at the prop not the crank like the 1980
@jimzeleny721325 күн бұрын
I was able to get about 21mph using a 1991 Evinrude 15 on a 14' aluminum boat. Also 20mph using a Mercury 15 on an inflatable.
@islandtoybox25 күн бұрын
@@jimzeleny7213 It felt very fast. This is a medium gage 12ft boat
@terryzig29 күн бұрын
Looks like the Pacific Northwest Puget Sound. Tacoma?
@islandtoybox29 күн бұрын
@@terryzig 60 miles north of Seattle
@terryzig29 күн бұрын
I dont smoke the crab pot anymore, makes me too angry.
@michaelroberts6299Ай бұрын
thankyou for doing this
@BillPetrie-ts2psАй бұрын
I have the johnson copy of that motor. About 750 hours and still is great.
@CeltDoesStuffАй бұрын
Thats one cool design 😎
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
I love the color and stying. Much better then the Evinrude varient
@BillPetrie-ts2psАй бұрын
The merc is much newer.
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@BillPetrie-ts2ps The Mercury engines have a more aggressive prop and are always underrated on HP
@531671967Ай бұрын
At 57 I can relate to the story of you and your dad, my story is very similar but was with my grandpa and his 1962 Evinrude Sportwin. He let me take the tiller when I was 5 or 6 and it is a memory that is burned Forever in my mind. That started a lifelong hobby with boats and vintage outboards that still is with me today. Two strokes Forever! Great video.
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@531671967 Thanks. I think there are a lot of common stories amount folks like us.
@GoogleUser-yj1wyАй бұрын
Hi from Ireland, fantastic video, very interesting
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@GoogleUser-yj1wy Thank you. Glad you liked it.
@drgraham33Ай бұрын
Nice set up.
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@drgraham33 Thank you. It’s a great boat!
@drgraham33Ай бұрын
@@islandtoybox I just bought a 2015 180 sportsman last month. Very excited to fish/crab with it next season.
@jpmoffattАй бұрын
Yes it is a rotary valve. It also has a resonator in the exhaust which gives it a unique sound. i have been running 2 of them for two years now. Very cool underated motor.
@davemilsterАй бұрын
So the Evinrude 15 pushed this setup at 27 mph and the yammy could go 25mph. Both are impressive for that horsepower.
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@davemilster The Evinrude seems to have a bigger more aggressive prop and doesn’t get the RPM’s of the Yamaha. The Evinrude video is available on my channel…
@smannee28 күн бұрын
The evinrudes are fast engines but I love the 15 yamaha. That same yamaha 15 would get my 12ft fiberglass rib up to 23kts with a 12p. 21kts with the 10p. It was a great little motor.
@davemilsterАй бұрын
Is that a 12’ boat?
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@davemilster It is a G3 Guide12. 12ft boat. Thanks for watching
@chincha805Ай бұрын
What is the model number on the 9.9 ?
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@chincha805 I don’t know the particular designation but if you google 25” extra long shaft high thrust 9.9hp the Yamaha website should give you a number.
@trungvudhammasila9432Ай бұрын
Good bike! I love the original bike!
@AX01AdventuresАй бұрын
I’m glad you ran it with both. That’s what I wanted to see, but wasn’t sure if you were going to. The Mercury got it in plane barely. The OMC couldn’t quite do it, needed a little more power or setup maybe. Great comparison!
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@AX01Adventures Thanks for watching, glad you liked it!
@ImnotyourdoormatАй бұрын
*The Johnson/Evinrudes were legendary rock solid motors ... **_That couldn't hold a candle to a Merc._*
@ImnotyourdoormatАй бұрын
*_As great as those Johnson/Evinrudes were. And they were. There was just something special about a Merc... My_** Mark 75a **_ruined me for life._** hahaha LOL*
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@Imnotyourdoormat I agree, there is one Merc for every 100 OMC motors. The coils alone are hard to find and getting close to $200 per coil. Nothing like a good running Mercury on a calm sunny summer morning! Once that sound is in your blood your hooked.
@JBOutboardsАй бұрын
Sounds great man. You were flyin too!
@mattwaters6987Ай бұрын
Awesome motor. Is it a twin cylinder engine?
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@mattwaters6987 Yes. I agree great looking and running engines. 2 cylinder
@RedemptionReadyАй бұрын
So 9.9hp is about 24% more power and its about 24% faster. That couldnt be any more perfect.
@rwoutdoorsАй бұрын
Wow beautiful motor!
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
Thank You! These are getting harder to maintain every passing year.
@tonytunnell9988Ай бұрын
Love the content it's awesome
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@tonytunnell9988 Glad you liked it. Kind of non value added fun stuff
@ivanmiller5533Ай бұрын
Hi, beautiful bike . Good watch. PS you said the airbox was the toolbox.. Ha ha. Thanks for your time, keep up the good work.
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
@@ivanmiller5533 That’s what my brother in law told me! Fake news I guess. Thanks for watching!
@This.Here.ChannelАй бұрын
Could you explain why Mercury had, for example, a 50 hp engine listed as a 500?
@pjimmbojimmbo1990Күн бұрын
Marketing, as *** sounded cooler than **
@MindBodySoulOkАй бұрын
Have a 12hp Hangkai 2 stroke that gets my 10.5 Bris inflatable to 18mph
@stephenwinter8892Ай бұрын
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I don't have the issue yet I'm single but I have a 1965 Johnson outboard 18hp and a 1974 chrysler outboard 10hp both on opposite boats
@K1VV1939Ай бұрын
This is Not a Test ... So you tested the first motor with all other motors out of the water but you tested the second motor with the first dragging in the water? ... what are you american?
@islandtoyboxАй бұрын
I noted that in the video. The Merc won’t lock in the up position for some reason without some difficulty.I do these one handed, even running three ancient engines. Think of it as non value added entertainment. In any event thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed it.