the KTM stands for keep Taking Money

Bear 650 is beautiful, saw it in eicma , prefer it to the BSA

If you actually want to scramble get a fantic caballero rally.

Both the RE and the BSA look OK but if i was to get the BSA I'd wait 12 months to buy it when, like the GoldStar, they will reduce it by 2 grand.

Why not the 400x …amazing price and love the bike and for off road much lighter than the bear and can actually go off road and about same HP

the only triumph to consider is the 1200, the others are fake as fuc7 - out of bear and bsa - tough one due to the bear being so well built but the bsa looks so much better off the blocks - it's a single too so it's more fun 🙂, i am in the same boat as you and i reckon the bsa will get my cash - as for the bsa stories, internet is too powerful for -ve news, fuc7 2nd hand market as if you buy to ride then the market will sort itself in good time and you will ride a nice bike for years in the mean time

Only your demo rides will decide

Fantic 500 twin cam...Italian built, not Chinese

Hi Joe, I've just traded my street triple for a 2024 new RE Bullet 350 and love it! Such great build quality, simple enough for me to do my own maintenance, gears smooth, quality switch gear, suspension good, excellent parts availability, 3 years warranty & breakdown assist, such great value, I'd go with a Bear 650 hands down, why wait for BSA when their retainable px value is poor, good luck with your choice! 👍😎👊

Joe! Respect!! Well done for diving in at the deep end and sticking with it. What an experience. You only live once. Carpe diem.

Hi Joe. Having the same dilemma myself! As an ‘oldie’, I went to see the RE Classic 650 but found myself thinking seriously about the BSA Goldstar. In the flesh it looks a beautiful bike. Like some of your other commentators have said, you need to test ride both bikes and hopefully the decision will then become clear. Maybe I’ll just stick with my Classic 350 😉. Both bikes though looked so well engineered. I wait in anticipation to see what you choose.

I like the look of The BSA B65 Scrambler and am awaiting the release in the spring, it should be finding a place in my garage. There is no need to worry the BSA powertrain is a lusty unit and performs well.

What your all missing, there is little to no dealerships for the likes of CV moto, BSA Royal Enfield. Secondly massive price cuts to these bikes mean dealers will not even take them in part exchange.

The BSA Walks it . Should have looked at The Triumph 400x too I did not like the Bear myself liked the Classic better . I know we are all different. Need to test ride them all next year preferable on the same day then We know

The Bear is a great looking bike but the BSA from what I could see looked just as good. Yeah Triumph should be concerned.

Great video 👏🏼

Great video, Joe. That BSA looks stunning. And the Bear. I'm as torn as you 😂 nice dilemmas to have though!

Looking to buy a scrambler yet fails to check out the Honda Scrambler.

BSA is a single cylinder..you can cross it off..the RE Bear would be the one to go for

Why one should buy single cyl. when u have parellal tween available at same price?

The Bear looks the business! Esp the teal frame.

Because Benelli is owned by a Chinese company, they can knock them out at a low price. It surprises me that Triumphs are not cheaper to, because they are made in Thailand and then simply assembled in Britain, why aren't they cheap?

Bsa goldstar scrambler looks crazy good looking but ter is a surprise from royal Enfield scram 440 it might underated and effective not sure good looking

Got to ride them and check out the fueling and gearbox.

Bear 650 Golden Shadow suits you well.

Honest opinion triumph is doing alot better then ktm . Royal enfeild is a better deal. But they are teasing another himalayan. Im waiting for the final reveal

If could justify spending the coin on a new Triumph, I think I'd have a Bear and a Classic. I've spent the last decade on singles, so sorry BSA you're just not in the frame I need a twin for a bit.

6'3"?!? 1200XE. That's the only answer. I'm only 6', so I settled for the XC lol

Street scrambler; has to be a big single! that BSA is very pretty in the yellow. Shades of Big John Banks in the sixties owning the scrambles scene on his B44 and B50's. The enfields are nice if you really want a twin on a scrambler(??) The UK dealer market was a bit fragile for BSA launching 1 bike model to dovetail into post covid and brexit, and was overpriced initially. But worldwide BSA are on the upwards, hopefully you brits can mature your BSA dealer network so the spring brings good news. USA dealer networks have been announced and BSA are now in India too. Hopefully BSA firm up their plans which were for Japan and Australia going into the next few months. But do some research on the best big single scramblers ever and the letters BSA will be front and foremost.

You have been let down once with KTM don't get bitten twice, with BSA, stay well away.

The trade value with bsa forget it , its across the board all bikes have dropped in trade in value , bsa just seem to be targeted

That bsa scrambler looks very nice. What weight tho? The resale values of their road based 650 is shocking so hopefully this will do better

The 650 Bear. Buying the bike is only 1/2 the story of living with the bike… Royal Enfield have the network, and the Bear is a development of a proven platform.

I'm going there next week , i cannot wait, You have been lucky with 5 months waiting... when i had the "incident" my bike took over 7 months to be fixed 🤣and that was just minor cosmetics ... Between the 2 ill choose Royal Enfield all day, much more classier looking and i bet reliability is great. Hope you make the right decision for yourself and waiting for your trip videos again 🤗

im a RE enthusiast but that BSA is superb beutiful

Triumph and Ducati should be worried. That BSA looks really nice and the RE quality has really improved. Tough decision.

Why is BSA just copying RE?

Have a look at the Triumph Tiger 850 Sport

Love this! 🤍

In at the deep end with the offroad 😂. It never looks as steep on the gopro. Agree we do live a nanny state.

Looks amazing Joe, what a place.

Hi Joe, Great vid, thank you. Vids 1 and 2 N.Wales is my stomping ground. On your way to Anglesey you went down the A55, horror show for a biker. You can get there only loosing 40 mins on some amazing roads. You said it’s great to set off without fixed plans which can be a blast, I agree, but on the flip side a few “best roads” vids are invaluable and stop you missing out. I’m no massive touring expert but I’ve done a bit and for a bike,Google maps is not good. Well worth £70 buying one of the motorcycle apps, best bike purchase I’ve made. It sounds expensive but compared to a dedicated GPS it’s cheap and will give you lifetime membership. Updates tonnes of useful features ect. Really don’t mean to be patronising, just friendly advice. Think you’re doing brilliant making the vids for us. I’d happily meet up in N.Wales in the spring, show you some great roads. No problem. Cheers T

I’ve only found your channel tonight whilst planning my own NC500 tour next year. 3rd episode in, love your content and the way you present it. Very watchable and informative buddy 😎👍🏻.

it's ur-la-pool say it like that i'm scottish i like your video mate but advertising omg mate oh my mrs said your handsome 😂

i see you have of road tyres on your bike why when your on roads they they just as good on roads ?

Hi had my Africa twin stolen in may from outside the dealers it was being MOTd at on cctv took them 5 min before they were pushing her away with a scooter they are scum no other word for them well not and get it printed ride safe

It does suck when this sort of stuff happens but always go fully comp. That being said, if you want a classic motorbike that you can ride around town and tour on, I would probably go try out triumph speedmaster. Maybe royal Enfield meteor 650. A little bit more modern. A rebel 1100. Most people I see riding around London on a classic bike, normally ride a t120 or a bobber. Depends if you want an all-round bike or you just want to Saturday and Sunday bike. Good luck to you buddy

Awesome senary... stunning roads.... You should keep a Gas Gallon with you for a situation like that... Its give you more ability to enjoy your trip without worrying... Be safe keep it up.... Thanks for sharing information about your Gear 👌🏻👍🏻💐🇸🇦