What an arrogant, mindless nonsense you just said here.
@janlotichius79495 ай бұрын
A failed musician. I feel sorry for hm.
@zeeschelp11 ай бұрын
while presuppositions or prejudices are great because they are the starting point from which you learn, it's important to... you know, refine and nuance your opinion? i agree this kind of music is shite but you gotta (at least try to) occupy the viewpoint of both parties to form a viable argument. if you want to unmask their values and beliefs you have to know where they are coming from. not to view from a pedestal but on equal level
@zeeschelp11 ай бұрын
4:07 thats the idea. i do agree however that "unpleasant" to the ears does not neccessarily equals to the "unpleasantness" it wants to communicate
@zeeschelp11 ай бұрын
4:36 also when you switch from the "bad music" to the "other music" you're comparing apples to oranges; they are both a different style or genre, yes, and we all know which is better, of course! ;) but, they do not portray the same emotion or state of being. so to compare them and judge them on how "pleasant" it is for you to listen to, is off
@zeeschelp11 ай бұрын
5:36 you can but imo you're doing it on the wrong grounds
@zeeschelp11 ай бұрын
i love how you keep saying its not fair to compare the "bad music" to the greats, it speaks books about your unwillingness to really explore and understand
@zeeschelp11 ай бұрын
i applaud you for sharing your opinion
@Kristallijn33 Жыл бұрын
You do it yourself dickhead ! Bla bla !
@billinrio Жыл бұрын
An excellent review. As one who often sits shaking his head while other audience members are on their feet hooting, I like you sardonic style.
@notme123 Жыл бұрын
Get over yourself!
@circiter2411 Жыл бұрын
Too much snark for such paltry personality. Criticism is a difficult practice. It should be a balance between love and the desire to help improve whatever is not good. But love should be what you sense most. It will be what will attract an audience to the criticism. I do not detect love here, I do not detect enthusiasm, nor a desire to help improve things. I only detect a need to prove himself witty and knowledgeable. A desire to exploit other people's failings under the impression that pointing at them will make him shine. Well, here's the news, Daniel. It most definitely does not!
@S_Morgan44 Жыл бұрын
Who hurt you? Because I'd like to shake their hand.
@rodneyboehner3007 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to inform you, but the NYPO hasn't been good since Toscanini.
@saubrezn Жыл бұрын
How can americans deal with Beethoven. You have no idea 😂
@Joozt112 Жыл бұрын
hahaha
@GabrielFedak Жыл бұрын
You are such a fucking goon
@mahdimohammadi52312 жыл бұрын
I think Ashley Fure is one of the best portrayers of contemporary life... Mozart portrayed his own life, Romantic area did for their own period and now we have got composers like her and John Cage and even more... I have listened to at least 2000 pieces of modern music for 3 months this year, trust me Ashley Fure is a genius. you may not understand what is going on, if you would listen to John Cage 4:33 you'd know what's all about. you should change your definition of music. I'm sorry but Fure can not ever be compared to the other pieces in your list like penis and stuff...
@mahdimohammadi52312 жыл бұрын
what do you think about John Cage? he has a giant foot in music history?
@remomazzetti87573 жыл бұрын
As Sibelius once said: "no one has ever erected a monument to a critic. "
@AdamantSeraph Жыл бұрын
Yeah! But in the same time we all hope that the spirit of Hitler died and that we don't get to ser many fuhrers arround anymore. Still, some conductors "suffer"...and look like an errected cock during pages written for serenity and calm.
@billinrio Жыл бұрын
Somebody should.
@zeeschelp11 ай бұрын
@@billinriobuild a monument for negations?
@henkbouwman82763 жыл бұрын
Just a jealous child, you are
@perezbermudaxoxo58213 жыл бұрын
Love your take on this. I couldn’t agree more. A bunch of garbage!
@fingerhorn43 жыл бұрын
This kind of pomposity went out (thankfully) with the ark. Even in the 1950s and 60s, this kind of "review" was already considered old school arrogance populated by people like this prat.
@vanessa73473 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Dudamel?
@ewmbr11643 жыл бұрын
Every cliche of a critic marvelously outperformed. Max Reger is reported to have sent the following note to a critic: "I have your piece in front of me while sitting in the smallest room at home. Soon I will have it behind me." Enough said.
@matts90643 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who heard the obvious. The NYP has been struggling for years! Thank you for your honesty.
@wavechamber3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why this man hates Ash Fure's music so much?
@matts90643 жыл бұрын
Have you heard it?! It is dismal!
@pientje20073 жыл бұрын
And Jaap....
@jefftornick1786 Жыл бұрын
Because it sucks. I used to use the MyPhil subscription to go to just about every Philharmonic concert (and I still go to almost every Met production) but I finally decided about six months ago that I’ve given up on them. Until they come to their senses and knock it off with the complete garbage “new music” and Van Zweden is gone I’m completely done with them
@wouter66594 жыл бұрын
Residentie Orchestra, Orkest van het Oosten, Residentie Orchestra, Netherlands Radio Philharmonic, Antwerp Symphony Orchestra, Dallas Symphony Orchestra, Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra & New York Philharmonic..... And you are calling yourself a 'Music Lover'????? Stop talking, start crawling back into your own afterwards. Besides: most important: Maestro Van Zweden is conducting the New York Phill like maestro's like Bernstein & Mahler did before him. And you somehow forgot to mention that, calling yourself a Music Lover? Oh wait: YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW!!!! Enjoy walking the black carpet of shame!
@michaelsteel80594 жыл бұрын
And again one of the many critics that our world is apparently full of. How boring to listen to yet another arrogant critic who has clearly earned his spurs by watching and listening on the sidelines. Fortunately, there is also KZbin where this kind of arrogance is apparently the order of the day. Wasted time listening to this pathetic display of amateurism. I am now waiting for someone who really understands business, at least I can learn something from that.
@mm-dn6oe4 жыл бұрын
I also find it strange to say that truck drivers prefer Beethoven and in the next breath complaining that the "cultural elite" prefer Ashley Fure, with this indicating some kind of problem. This is literally just not true, Truck drivers do not exactly listen to Beethoven en masse, it is more often the "cultural elite" that listen to Beethoven. Sounds like Tucker Carlson or something.
@mm-dn6oe4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how you could use the idea that the Rite was "simulated" barbarism while Filament is "genuine" barbarism. That's just arbitrarily assigning words to things and using it as an argument - certainly there's no objective elements in the music to point to that puts the pieces into those different categories that aren't subject to different interpretation. Someone 100 years ago could very easily have said the Rite of Spring was genuine barbarism and it would have exactly the same validity as the argument used here.
@tristanraissherman4 жыл бұрын
LMAO dude. Delete this.
@pardaq244 жыл бұрын
are you even real
@duwir59594 жыл бұрын
Lars Vogt would ne a right choice for beeth 5.
@duwir59594 жыл бұрын
Sorry, be the right choice
@MFEeee4 жыл бұрын
I have to do a bio on her. I dont like Fury’s music. I dont like this project
@ctfamily404 жыл бұрын
I cannot tell whether or not this is some misguided skit. Are you for real?
@alexsander21124 жыл бұрын
is this Regis Tadeu or Lord Vinheteiro?
@alexsander21124 жыл бұрын
typical american critic hahaha this is shit
@imazi6434 жыл бұрын
1 year later and still a dumpster fire
@nikolaivalov13834 жыл бұрын
Guys, Gals and Enby Pals, I give to you: classical music's shittiest take ever.
@cb8854 жыл бұрын
What's your take?
@jeffkissarmy4 жыл бұрын
Are you like the Ben Shapiro of music theory?
@cb8854 жыл бұрын
ahahahahah LOL
@lichenthrope__4 жыл бұрын
returning to this video a year and change later i have some questions why is your profile picture a boomer selfie? why did your mom pick you such a wide, formless, shiny tie? how many times did you practice your smug, disdainful facial expressions in response to the music you sampled before it was this stiff and inauthentic?
@cb8854 жыл бұрын
LOL I checked your profile picture. I saw an overweight woman trying to make a shitty origami inside a sort of wiccan circle with candles, with shitty music in the background. Then, a video of a dude with a weird mask and a sweater that has been definitely chosen by someone's mom... and you have the nerve to comment on this guy's video? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA You can't make it up ;D
@lichenthrope__4 жыл бұрын
@@cb885 ah yes how dare I *checks notes* be heavy
@lichenthrope__4 жыл бұрын
@@cb885 I don't know how to tell you that slightly heavier people are allowed to exist and fold origami, AND have opinions
@cb8854 жыл бұрын
@@lichenthrope__ you went full identity politics.. LOL well, I don't know how to tell you that people who wear ties are allowed to exist AND have opinions too. You made fun on this guy for being ridiculous, but You are more ridiculous than he is.. I used the same strategy that you used on him..on you. Typical Karen comment.. makes fun on others but gets upset if you do the same with them. AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
@lichenthrope__4 жыл бұрын
@@cb885 I don't know how to tell you that it isn't identity politics for people to exist lmao this guy can easily change his tie or make different content
@paulzisserson75655 жыл бұрын
A very smart young man with the skill of being able to clearly explain a potentially controversial topic. He should make himself more available to public debates.
@dangelernter48544 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe that 60 times more people were interested in a music review I posted than in this piece on gun control and Nazis. I suspect some youtube algorithm at work here. But am considering doing other topics.
@bigwong62065 жыл бұрын
Who is this little creep? The only thing more obnoxious than show business (yes the classical music business IS part of show business) are these so called "critics" who supply opinions to the masses either too weak minded or timid to have one of their own. Daniel Gelernter? Jaap van Zweden? Alan Gilbert? Let them form a firing squad by standing in a circle. By the way, van Zweden could get a real job as a V. I. Lenin impersonator. All he needs is a fur shapka and a grand mausoleum in Red Square
@Tshiknn5 жыл бұрын
you're extremely dumb
@michaelvince65075 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan! Could you use your uninformed and uneccessarily cruel reviewing process on my music too? I could use the free publicity.
@roman23745 жыл бұрын
Now I could make a point of how much more enjoyable it is to listen to music wearing a sweatshirt rather than a tie and a suit... but you know - to each their own
@jonasstary58955 жыл бұрын
I really love music from Isaac, Desprez, Gesualdo, Zelenka or Mozart, but also Webern, Nono, Feldman, Takemitsu and even Fure and many others great composers. Man learns to open his ears by listening to music. I don't expect the same experience from all compositions. But it is true that I would probably not understand the music of Ashley Fure five years ago. Now it is different.
@jonasstary58955 жыл бұрын
In my opinion is Ashley Fure one of the most interesting living composers. And "Filament" is really great music. Dissonance may not have happy end to express something essential.
@dpetrov3211 ай бұрын
"Dissonance may not have happy end to express something essential." like what?
@electrictundra6785 жыл бұрын
Lmao shut the fuck up
@alexanderguthrie67446 жыл бұрын
So all I gleaned from this video was: tonal good atonal bad Is my summary accurate or did I miss something?
@cb8856 жыл бұрын
Great, supportive comments were made by normal working people. Racist, hateful and insulting comments were made by butthurt crappy musicians. I wonder why. Dudes, do you ever ask yourselves why the arts need to be subsidized so much? It's because the music you compose sucks. The melody sucks, the way you perform the great composers of the past is boring, so the result is that you only attract people like yourselves.
@coqdorysme6 жыл бұрын
Area Man Bravely Talks About Stuff He Doesn't Know Anything About, more at 8
@chrisrogers43216 жыл бұрын
@@coqdorysme Ahah. Instead, you do. My dear chap your whole career is founded on charitable donations from hardworking individuals and their companies, because your art simply cannot support itself. None wants to hear it. You are practically a beggar.
@coqdorysme6 жыл бұрын
It's a darn sight better than being the entitled son of a science denier, or even a bot account like yourself.
@aidanramsay4256 жыл бұрын
The accusations of racism on out part are puzzling, especially when the only genuinely racist comments were from Chris Rogers, who agrees with you. It frankly wouldn't surprise me at all if you agreed with him, especially with the "88" in your username.
@chrisrogers43216 жыл бұрын
@@coqdorysme It's called privacy setting, genius, it allows me to say what I really think without having dumbness like you discover my identity. Now I see why you are in the music field, you really are too stupid to understand anything else.
@orchidandviolet29276 жыл бұрын
Don't mind the haters. This video was pretty awesome. All those who criticize you are jobless composers whose music none wants to hear.
@danielgelernter61896 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I only made this video because of similar comments on the last one -- I'm still waiting, in all honesty, for someone to send me a link to a piece of post-modern music they think I or *anyone* would like. I'm open to being persuaded I'm wrong. But I think they realize they don't have much of an argument.
@coqdorysme6 жыл бұрын
The fact that there's tons of music that is good and has a following is actually just proof you haven't actually tried. It's much easier to sit at home and make strawman arguments, after all.
@chrisrogers43216 жыл бұрын
@@coqdorysme Great following... this is why the major orchestras in the world have to fundraise millions each year to survive. Btw, I saw you are the fellow who made the stuffed white pudding comment. Shame on you, however, I'd rather be that than a flabby brown pudding like yourself. If you don't like white land, go back to the Philippines where you came from (or Indonesia or Malaysia, they are all the same to me).
@coqdorysme6 жыл бұрын
Wow, TIL the internet is not global and only white lands can comment on KZbin :O :O :O :O
@aidanramsay4256 жыл бұрын
@@danielgelernter6189 it's interesting that you say we don't have an argument when you spent two videos failing to make an argument yourself.
@aidanramsay4256 жыл бұрын
I thought this dork looks like the poor man's Charlie Kirk, and it turns out that he writes for The National Review, a conservative magazine best known for supporting conspiracy theories about Obama's birth and climate change. That explains a lot.
@orchidandviolet29276 жыл бұрын
What about you, what do you do in life? I jus saw the video where you introduce yourself. What a poor looser....With that intro (you can't even speak english properly) how on earth you think you can criticize others..Pathetic
@aidanramsay4256 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, you saw a very obvious joke video about something I clearly did as a joke. How gauche of me. Now, since you criticized my English in that video, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that you misspelled "loser" and "just," that English is a proper noun and should therefore be capitalized, that an ellipsis should be followed by a space, that the word proceeding an ellipsis should not be capitalized, as it is still part of the earlier sentence, that you put one too many periods after "others" without a space before the sentence fragment "Pathetic," and that this aforementioned sentence fragment should end with a period. Overall, this is very sloppy work and you should see me after class, as your grade is slipping rapidly and I may have to call your parents. Anyway, I'm a composer.
@aidanramsay4256 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention: an ellipsis should only have three periods, not four. D-
@ruthland39436 жыл бұрын
@@aidanramsay425 @Aidan, You really look like a homeless in that video. Plus, you sound very stupid. Not the best person to criticize this guy.
@ruthland39436 жыл бұрын
@@aidanramsay425 Yeah you did the video as a joke.. but class is not something one can buy. Do you make your own living? don't think so..
@TheEspadaHalibel6 жыл бұрын
A child pretending to be a grown up, rather cringeworthy
@orchidandviolet29276 жыл бұрын
Wait.. you are speaking.. you have a cartoon as profile picture and a bunch of animes/videogames in your channel. A grown up as immature as a chid is even worse.
@aidanramsay4256 жыл бұрын
Your profile is flowers, my friend. As I said earlier, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.