Sehr schöne Bahn, schade wurde der Antrieb ersetzt, aber die neue Stationsverkleidung ist viel schöner.
@alpinecableways2 ай бұрын
Ja sie ist mega schön, die Stationsverkleidung ist mega schön. Einfach eine schöne Garaventa Sesselbahn.
@CBF12 ай бұрын
The curvature is hard to notice but with someone who sees a lot of what most people DON'T immediately notice I can see where it's curved. I grew up with a Poma Omega: Madeleine Express, Val D'Isere(Espace Killy), 1998. I'm not sure if you'll ever guess which lift it replaced.
@dobrodej80022 ай бұрын
Wow, nice Bartholet next to Garaventa. Good video Kilian🔥
@alpinecableways2 ай бұрын
Thank you! That gondola is cool but the older one was also great! Giovanola 4 seater gondola 😢.
@CBF12 ай бұрын
@@alpinecableways Old Giovanola, always the better lift. The only Bartholet detachable lift that has value is Marmottes Express in Val D'Isere, for one reason, and one reason only: it's the prototype.
@alpinecableways2 ай бұрын
@ Yeah, RIP Giovanola
@CBF12 ай бұрын
@@alpinecableways Don't you wish time travel was possible? I freaking do. I would change the past so that all lifts are in the UK and the UK only(Except the Kolner Rheinseilbahn which I've decided will remain there because Koln treat it well), and so that none of the rare lifts ever get scrapped, and the modern lifts are much less common than how they have been. But for now all we can do is start a rebellion organization if we want to preserve what's left. Which is perfectly possible, and I think it's so far the only way we're going to get to preserve any lifts at all. Good thing I have an insight as to how corporate businessmen get their power which NOBODY, and I mean, NO HUMAN, should ever be allowed to have.
@alpinecableways2 ай бұрын
@ Yeah I would love to time travel, going to the past would be amazing... I got sad that great ropeways are gone today for normal new modern ropeways. The only hope we have to keep a typical great cable car is in Laax (Vorab) Lenzerheide (Hörnli Express) and Verbier (Savoleyres) All 3 of them are going to be replaced soon...
@GondelbahnMonde2 ай бұрын
Gute Video 👍🏻
@alpinecableways2 ай бұрын
Merci ❤😉
@Transport2725 ай бұрын
its a shame the new lift still has break downs and the old lift was so reliable
@alpinecableways5 ай бұрын
@@Transport272 yeah I miss the old one but like so much 😢
@Transport2726 ай бұрын
Stunning aerial shots
@Iskialot6 ай бұрын
Wow where is it
@Vojkorope6 ай бұрын
Perfect🤩🔥
@Vojko_Ondra6 ай бұрын
Beautiful🤩
@bernhardthie43576 ай бұрын
Weil die Hannigalp kein Skigebiet ist reicht die Förderleistung von 800 Personen pro Stunde aus
@alpinecableways6 ай бұрын
Ja genau! Auf die Hannig waren noch skiliften aber es ist viel zu steil um zu skifahren. Es hat aber schlitten und das ist genug dört.
@Damuvader6 ай бұрын
Warum nur 800 Personen pro Stunde?
@alpinecableways6 ай бұрын
Es ist genug, es sind auch nicht sehr viele leute auf diese bahn, sie war auch sehr teuer deswegen sind die gondeln fur 800 p/h genug.
@miezi95216 ай бұрын
I love this ropeway
@alpinecableways6 ай бұрын
Yeah me too it's so cool 😊😜
@CBF17 ай бұрын
I've had the luxury of riding the very first Poma Omega. Coincidentally also in Val D'Isere/Tignes, just like the first Poma type S. As was also the first Bartholet detachable, the first Doppelmayr Tricable, the first Skirail and Habegger gondola lift, and the first Skirail chairlift. I rode all of the above, except for old Tufs(the first Skirail chairlift), which was slaughtered in 2008. It wasn't even designed by Skirail either, it was an entire Yan Lift Engineering design. Skirail used Yan grips for their CLF's and they developed their system on the basis of Yan's in 1983. Neither Skirail nor Yan ever changed their design systems, up to Yan's bankruptcy in 1996, and Skirail's dissolution by Poma after building their final chairlift(Valbelle Razis, Risoul) in 2011. They had already been taken over by Poma in 1987 but kept making their own lifts until 2011. One Yan remains in the Espace Killy(Val D'Isere/Tignes). Not on the slaughter list thankfully.
@CBF17 ай бұрын
What is so special about this mass-produced run of the mill grip which is everywhere and is the same as every other modern grip? You tell me. I'd say the Giovanola grips were far better, and they weren't unsafe as how the tyrant BAV says. If they were they'd have frequent accidents, but they never did. Sure, they didn't fit into cable catchers, but it's really the likeliness of an accident that matters, not how modern a grip is. The likeliness of any accidents on any Giovanola-gripped lifts is absolutely null and void and they have existed long enough to prove that, more than long enough. Talk about the Parkbahn in Westfalenpark, a 2-CLD Pohlig with Giovanola grips. 65 years, entirely originaly condition, not a single accident caused by any parts of the Giovanola grip's design. The modern ski lift manufacturers just want to make ski lift operation all the more complicated so they can make money from it, and then force all old lifts to be destroyed out of their own greed. Should've been self sufficient, we all should have been. It's a rather long explanation as to how all the corporate tyranny in the world could have been avoided. If only we humans were as wild as geese, however... Geese have far more wilderness than any of us dumb humans have had in the last century.
@CBF17 ай бұрын
For me it was La Daille in Val D'Isere. The all-time first gondola lift from Poma, and the first Poma type S. R.I.P. 1966 - 2018 F(as in the F word) big business.
@alpinecableways7 ай бұрын
😢😭
@CBF17 ай бұрын
@@alpinecableways Don't we all wish we never had to have our passions intervened with and ruined by corporate businessmen who only seek to make money? It could have been avoided so long ago, all of the corporate tyranny that's happened in the world could have been. That is, if we didn't rely on centralization or capitalism for everything, and actually had the time to do things independently and in our own ways. Rather than let them tell us that our only purposes are to send our children to school so they can get jobs, constantly have their money drained by all of the centralized garbage they've been told to rely upon(and constantly pay for), and in the end, not have the time(because their jobs are too time-consuming) or money(because they've been forced to pay companies for everything in life because of how time-consuming their jobs are) to do anything independently without relying on "paid corporate experts or officials" to manage and decide upon everything, or do anything in their own independent ways of doing anything, even living, thinking, or doing research into certain things(take ropeway safety and accident likeliness by design as an example), to be completely honest. Which has allowed corporate businessmen to grow bigger, take over as much land and property as they want, take over as many smaller companies as they want so they can rid of any financially competitive threats to themselves, make everything all the more complicated so that smaller companies haven't got the financial resources to comply to what the big companies have forced upon everything(which is EXACTLY what the modern ropeway manufacturers have done), and then, when anyone tries to fight against any tyrannical take-overs in which they perform, they just use their employees' reliance upon them to pay their living costs as an excuse to legalize any tyrannical activities they perform, which invalidates any court of law case made against them(and they also probably pay the judges into dismissing the court case in favour of the corporate companies) and allows them to have anyone who physically stops them from any tyrannical activities which they do arrested. Whenever companies force what they want upon the world un-democratically, like what the ski resorts and the modern ropeway manufacturers do, it is beyond working for a living. It's purely tyranny. We should have made our own self-sufficient weight-driven(like a clock) electricity generators, should have made our own self-sufficient water supplies including self-sufficient distillation systems, and we should have built more and more greenhouses across the world instead. Then companies wouldn't be able to take us hostage in the manner of which they do and use it as a means of giving them more rights than the general public. Corporate greed has cost us so much, but it's also cost the world so much as well. Resources wasted, materials wasted, energy wasted, effort wasted, lives wasted. If only time travel to change the past was possible, then I'd have all rare ropeways originally built into the UK instead of any mountain ranges or ski resorts except the Scottish, and I would have them spread all across the UK rather than only in mountainous places. That is to say, all German, French, Austrian, Swiss, and Italian lifts would only be built in the UK and nowhere else. Old ropeways are so much more than mountain transport and profiteering pawns for corporate tyrants. But because mountain ranges are not globally widespread, and because ski resorts are expensive, not enough people have not been able to understand that. The remaining rare ropeways must be moved to the UK and not into any mountain ranges. There's no tyrannical legislation there that has been lobbied onto any UK government agencies by Doppelmayr or Poma, simply because there, there's never been enough lifts for the modern manufacturers to make lots of money from their destruction. The UK is the only chance of survival for any old ropeways.
@Seilbahn777 ай бұрын
Cools Video!🥰 Der Sound kommt mir bekannt vor. Deine Kamera macht ein super Job!
@alpinecableways7 ай бұрын
Dankschön, ja... er ist einfach legende, ich möchte dich nicht kopieren ahahah, immer hin wird es neue musiks im intro haben.
@vojt33ch7 ай бұрын
Not camera,,, the cameraguy 😎
@dobrodej80027 ай бұрын
Nice video Kilian😃
@alpinecableways7 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😁
@Iskialot7 ай бұрын
Wow who built this???
@alpinecableways7 ай бұрын
It's in Saas-Fee, Garaventa-Doppelmayr group built it in 2024. There is also CWA for cabins and FREY STANS for electric parts...
@Iskialot7 ай бұрын
@@alpinecableways Oh okay cool. Thank you for the reply.
@alpinecableways7 ай бұрын
@@IskialotYeah of course 😉
@YaKingRazborov7 ай бұрын
What's that?
@alpinecableways7 ай бұрын
Grip, it's on the gondolas and chairlifts. You know! In the mountains.
@CBF16 ай бұрын
@@alpinecableways The old lifts should never have been built in ski resorts. Ever. They should have been built all across the entire land. Then people might recognize more easily how differenceless the modern ones are, and how different, rare and special the old ones are. And that everything which the modern lift manufacturers force through government lobbying upon the old lifts is wrong and is nothing but a lie to make money through a forced bigger sale of modern lifts.
@tucker.848 ай бұрын
Great video. It looks like there a lot of moving parts experimented for the first time with this lift. I like the drive vault at the top terminal and bubble opening and closing mechanism. Very cool design! There is only one Leitner detachable quad on the East coast of America, as most nowadays are built by either Doppelmayr or Leitner-Poma. It’s refreshing to see other manufacturers every once and awhile around the world.
@Iskialot8 ай бұрын
😍😍😍
@alpinecableways8 ай бұрын
🙂👌 Thanks!
@miezi95219 ай бұрын
I Like it❤
@miezi95219 ай бұрын
Cool ❤
@miezi95219 ай бұрын
I am always in the Vallis in the Summer Holidays and I love it
@darkforcetv93449 ай бұрын
nächstes Jahr leider Geschichte
@glife19829 ай бұрын
LEITNER is best! But our Japanese ski resort's ski lift share are Doppelmayr60% POMA30% LEITNER5% GIRAK2.5% YAN2.5%. Good luck! LEITNER in Japan!!!
@teorunning84809 ай бұрын
Oh finalmente qualcuno che mette anche la descrizione in italiano, complimenti sia per questo che per il video.!!
@SandroWinkelmayer9 ай бұрын
Wow
@Vojkorope9 ай бұрын
Good video and the sound 🤩 amazing!
@alpinecableways9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! 🥰
@GondelbahnMonde9 ай бұрын
Jolie vidéo 👌🏻
@alpinecableways9 ай бұрын
Merci bien Antoine!
@thereaelchicken10 ай бұрын
Fährt die wieder? War in diversen Foren als Lost Place :D
@alpinecableways9 ай бұрын
Ja! Sie fährt wieder nach mehr als 10 Jahren!
@Seilbahn7710 ай бұрын
Love it!
@alpinecableways10 ай бұрын
Me too dude ❤️
@johannerwinretschitzegger434710 ай бұрын
Dieser Antriebssound einfach Legende 💪💪👍👍
@theodorwalaker890411 ай бұрын
is this from the skiresort that used to be abandoned?
@alpinecableways11 ай бұрын
Yeah! Someone bought it and renovated everything!
@Seilbahn7711 ай бұрын
Geil mann! Bei mir wird auch noch ein Video kommen! ❤
@alpinecableways11 ай бұрын
Danke ☺️. Ich freue mich auf deine Video!
@Seilbahn7711 ай бұрын
@@alpinecableways Schön zu hören! 🥰
@Seilbahn7711 ай бұрын
❤❤
@GondelbahnMonde11 ай бұрын
Bien l’ami 🎉
@alpinecableways11 ай бұрын
Merci l'ami!
@Iskialot Жыл бұрын
Really good video! I like it. Didn't you go with @Seilbahn77 on the same day to film the ropeways in Portes du Soleil?
@alpinecableways Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thank you! Yes I went for the week-end with him! We filmed that ropeway together at the same time!
@GondelbahnMonde Жыл бұрын
Schön 🎉
@alpinecableways Жыл бұрын
Dankeschön 😌
@victornicolin8650 Жыл бұрын
I really love the sound of the mechanism. I feel like all von roll ropeway sound the same but not any of the ropeway sound like von roll. Perfect
@CBF1 Жыл бұрын
You're probably running into a lot of videos of Von Roll VH400's then. This lift is a VH400. Before the VH400 were the VR102(almost extinct, only one left in Switzerland with another moved all the way to Argentina) and the VR101(also only 1 left in Europe, with around 9 more in the United States). However Von Roll did do nearly every lift type possible, ranging from drag lifts, chairlifts(Fixed grip and detachable), monocable gondola lifts, reversible tramway lifts, bicable gondola lifts(only the Madrid one exists), tricable gondola lifts(they only built one, in Saas-Fee, they later had financial issues afterwards) and funiculars. What DOES sound the same though are the modern 8 and 10-seater gondola lifts from Doppelmayr, Leitner, Poma and Bartholet which are destroying every old lift possible as they are faster and more efficient. And they have lots of technology installed in them which the manufactures use to lobby governmental authorities into enforcing unreasonable safety standards which force the old lifts to be destroyed. The modern lifts are mass-produced and don't have a single thing different about them. No different looks, mechanics, or sounds. All the same, not the case with the old lifts as they were made by so many different manufacturers who changed their designs every so often. None of those manufacturers including Von Roll exist any more, all thanks to corporate assertion of domination over them because the global big manufacturers have the most money....
@alpinecableways Жыл бұрын
@@CBF1Thats a great text! Yes, Saas-fee had a VR102 but sadly got replaced in 2016. There is just one VR102 left in Switzerland. The Känzeli-Brambruesch one but they sadly already have some plans to replace it by a 10-seater D-Line gondola.
@vonrollskyway1 Жыл бұрын
Long live Von Roll. Built better than any other ropeway manufacturer
@alpinecableways Жыл бұрын
Yeah... sad that it got buyed by Garaventa 😔
@CBF1 Жыл бұрын
@@alpinecableways Doppelmayr actually, or you could say Doppelmayr-Garaventa as Garaventa would find themselves clawed up by Devilmayr should I say. From what I heard the insane construction costs of building the Alpin Express in Saas-Fee(apparently 41 MILLION FRANCS!!!) did a number on Von Roll's finances. Quite possibly why the VH400 Light and Quattro systems were made, as were a few more standard VH400's after that although they'd been in production since 1984. The VH400 Light and Quattro did not sell well(only 3 VH400 Light's, none survive) and 2 Quattro's(both survive) and we know the rest honestly. Things were better when mehre Herstellern were around. But we let capitalism and what makes the most money dominate us foolishly, and let the big manufacturers shut down everyone who tries to do anything differently(by taking them over). And we let ourselves be told what to think by governmental authorities lobbied by Doppelmayr Leitner and Poma, rather than doing the research ourselves, like I have done, and understanding that the ONLY reason for the longevity of the old lifts is because they are just as safe as the modern ones, although while some systems are not as deropement-proof as some others are, deropements never happen. They have to carry hundreds of thousands to millions of people every year, for DECADES, sometimes even almost a century for lifts like the Rax-Seilbahn, the Schmittenhohebahn, the Predigtstuhlbahn, the Schauinslandbahn and the Fichtelberger Schwebebahn which will have it's centennial this year... They can't have ANY accidents. If the old lifts did have dangerous accidents caused by design problems they would never have lasted anywhere near as long as how they have done, and people wouldn't ride them either. If enthusiasts took responsibility over the lifts instead of governments and corporations, lifts such as the Weissenstein chairlift and so on would probably still be here, as would so many other old lifts. We enthusiasts understand just how much of mechanical artwork the old lifts are, and how worthless and dull the modern lifts are.