I resonate with what you speak. I hadn’t heard of this term before, and I’ve been sensing this discomfort of sorts to understand what this reality is and why we’re here? I feel the collective and am helplessly a part of it.. Growing up in a Jain community, I’ve constantly heard the it’s the end of the 5th aara as we call it, moving to the 6th, which is the time of destruction, of every kind.. and then the 1st phase will rise again, and in earth years they are vey long periods. It is believed and written in the Jain texts that this cycle has repeated 84 times.

Need to organize discussion with people who are techy progressives who are open minded.

The answer to the first question around the 1.08 mark cuts pretty deep.

As Iain well knows it is easy, all too easy to reify the concept of the left hemisphere and right hemisphere. One single statement that can possibly help us not to fall into that mental trap is: The left hemisphere alone does not know its limitations and equally well the right hemisphere alone doesn't know its limitations. This statement is a skillful means to help us return to the state of creative imagination in its "not knowingness" or incipient wonder prior to our forming this or that or any concept. Speaking metaphysically, we might say the one divides into two in order to enrich the unity. The challenge is to speak of division without losing the sense of wholeness or sense of unity. We could say it is from this unbounded sense of unity that a deeper or more integrated unity can come to be. We don't ordinarily have a sense of presence that can give us a perspective from which we can see how the mind is working. As we develop this sense of presence, we can notice when we do get entangled with the mind's limitations and at that point we can cease continuing in that fixed pattern of thinking. There can be seen to be much wisdom in the Zen saying that "form is emptiness and emptiness is form". In other words concepts are empty (like wonder or the fertile darkness is empty prior to the limited light of concepts that come and blind us to incorporating the sense wonder) and emptiness (like wonder or fertile darkness) is capable of taking on form. Such statements are clues to how what we call "mind" works.......Thank you for this podcast.

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apologies for such a trivial comment but you have fallen in the common trap of you and I where it should be you and me.

1:35:00 ff I’ve been waiting 60 years for Philip Goyal’s reminder of the true nature of ‘the measurement problem’…. THANK YOU !!…. Yes. ‘Measuring’ anything not only changes that which is measured but it also changes the measuring instrument. And different measuring instruments change that which they measure in different ways, & are likewise differently changed themselves. Sooooo yes, choosing a specific type of measuring device quite absolutely alters the alterations which occur during the measurement of anything. Soooooo yes ‘our’ choices of measuring instrument do quite absolutely affect the metrics of the body being measured …… AND US. Put a glass & mercury thermometer right into the body of the water of the Pacific Ocean to measure its temperature &, ineluctably, the temperature of the ocean will be changed thereby…….. albeit by an amount so minuscule as to be almost totally irrelevant. Moreover, the thermal activity of the water molecules in the Pacific Ocean will also just as ineluctably change the temperature (the thermal activity) of the molecules of the thermometer while it’s in the water. Infrared (IR) sensors detect objects by emitting infrared radiation and measuring how it reflects or is absorbed. Using an ear thermometer, also known as tympanic thermometer, which uses infrared light to measure temperature by detecting the thermal radiation emitted from the measured object to measure the (infrared) temperature of the object under study, & as such is not thrust right into the molecular mass of the object it is measuring, nevertheless will just as ineluctably change the temperature of the Pacific Ocean if used to measure the latter’s (infrared) temperature, including just as many ‘back changes’ to the infrared thermometer also. The Roomba cleaning your floors probably has infrared detectors ….. Same, same with every measurement taken - indeed, as we ourselves move through the world & make decisions concerning the nature of our movements, we change everything we touch ….. both ourselves & the world ….. ineluctably….. It is not required to drill all the way down to the so-called quantum level in order to recognise that measuring things changes them …. & us ….

Im not understanding how theyre coming to the conclusion, based on their own logic, that beauty must be intrinsic, not subjective, more a way of seeing and relating to the world than an intrinsic quality of certain things, beauty can literally be found in everything in certain frames of mind, our definition of beauty shifts and evolves... with where our attention and values go.

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The question is: will the psychopathology of the collective west destroy humanity before worldwide Consciousness emerges? Evolve or die.

Mary Whitehouse was deeply concerned about the tv and its impact on innocent minds.. and she was absolutely right.. many parents didn't understand the power tv would have over the children.. books had power, and so did music.. and many children who were not taught to be mindful of the danger of tv have sadly killed themselves and others.. because they do not understand what the world is... they need to understand the laws that govern nature and govern us all.. howeverif it can influence people in negative ways, it has the power to heal the masses rather quickly.

If you’re a predominantly “left brain” type (as I understand it) I imagine this wouldn’t be of much interest.

@10:39 and @10:50 relatable story, I was 8, 1989, arrived at class, “sorry miss I slept it out” response … “out in a field was it?” I went home and gave out to mam for telling me to say it after me asking what should I say. Turned out mam was right and that teacher was a c U Next Tuesday

I’d love to hear more about who is innovating in the new ways (around minute 27). Any more examples greatly appreciated.

Too true. But too cerebral.

Dr. Jordan Peterson is smart; He knows religion is bullshit; He is a con man defending the religious bullshit just to milk the religious fools.

I get it that you're intuiting something and you're confused. I like the limitation of not going too narcissistic and thus avoiding psychosis. My concern is your presentation suggests the possibility of doing some thing deliberately, by conscious intention. If we stay with the Jungian notion of individuation, whether individually or collectively, keep in mind that to call it a crisis, meta or not, is to arrogate to the ego that which is the domain of the Self. Go with the flow, as per Lao Tzu, and let the water of the inner being, not the jack hammer of conscious intention, wear away stone.

What is masha? I don’t understand

None of these videos are helpful at all. Y’all don’t realize how down bad people are in the real world. Iain was telling us to listen to our intuitions and my deepest one is that Life is The Mistake. Your videos are useless because they don’t give any real answers. Why are we in this pickle in the first place? What was the whole point of Creation? Who cares about Beauty Truth and Goodness when you’re desperately trying to find food or water? My biggest intuition is that Life is supremely arbitrary. None of you can honestly tell me that this claim is just “stupid” or “immature” because I guarantee all of you wish that life didn’t kick you in the teeth so hard. I wish you all would stop denying that y’all have the same question as me, But why?

Can anyone of you academic folk tell me why ,not being born is somehow worse than being born? I just heard iain say that all bad things happens from a motivation to improve something. Why try to “improve” or be “creative” when the Universe could have just rested in its own glory

is there any way to permanently end conscious experience for all sentient beings in order to prevent suffering? Also is there any way to prevent Spirit, God, Allah from ever creating.

Y’all piss me the fuck off talking this fucking nonsense and have the damn nerve to act like there’s something wrong with me for having this disposition. Y’all act like this “oh the masses are too unsophisticated to realize that Reality is great, why can’t they just submit to the torture”

You stupid fucks, it’s not fucking hubris. WE LIVE IN A WORD OF PAIN AND WE WANT IT TO STOP. WHY WOULD I NOT WANT TO CEASE SUFFERING. ANSWER THIS!! THIS NATURAL WORLD IS FUCKING EVIL. BECAUSE EROS WANTED TO BE “CREATIVE” SOMEONE IS STARVING TO DEATH RIGHT NOW. There stomach is touching there fucking back and waves of pain flood him as he prays to anything to take the pain away. What if Eros just fucking didn’t do that. We need to seek to cease the activities of Eros. This Reality shit is fucking maniacally absurd

Bonnita asked “where is that pain that keeps us from wanting to be in the natural world coming from?” Are you deadass? Some kids come out the womb and get painful cancer and suffer and die while there parents look at it. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO BE? I’m genuinely confused why you and iain and all these other folks can’t see/understand that Life is literally torture. Y’all can enjoy being tortured all you want and tell everyone how “beautiful” it is because y’all are either insane or very good at denial. If I had a red button that would delete all Life and all experience I would press it IMMEDIATELY. We all deserve to rest in the peacefulness of deep sleep and non-existence. If y’all don’t want that then fine but can y’all do a fucking episode that actually helps the situation for once instead of telling people “Getting hunted and ripped apart by a lion is a beautiful thing” what the actual fuck is wrong with y’all seriously.

Useless eater fucks you all are

Y’all fucking suck and are extremely ineffective and I want you to know (in all the 4 types of knowing) that y’all come across as pretentious assholes that won’t just come out and say what the fuck is going on. I swear y’all are as bad as the damn materialists. At least they can come up with plans that give people some type of confidence

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The container (body) is borrowed we all know that, thats the key death thats where it all begins its technicly our mom in part has a role in us being here dont believe me ask him they are both here or ask God, close your eyes and call out to any or both fear is a tool with no more authority its happen8ng fr9m the inside out wa all feel it inside i am but a dot like all the other dots

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At 34 minutes in she's describing non-violent communication.

This makes me feel much better about not knowing how to exist in this world.

Your conversations with Alastair Macintosh are priceless! How about having a whole series with him or at least recorded conversations on some kind of a regular basis?

Mr Read has a well functioning right brain hemisphere, but he enjoys manipulating young people who can't think by themselves and and have no hope in the future and go around destroy and orange paint. Mr Read is in fact selfish.

Deep yearning for belonging; [keanulash]?!?

I studied political sciences, many languages, including mandarin, lived in China, and I can assure you: Western civilization is now on the verge of zombie state. I'm still sane because I can find my way on the Internet, but let's be honest, the average peasant is doomed.

And value, what helps you to survive is good,valuable, and what hinders your ability is bad, evil. Assigning value is helpful evolutionary tool that a creature use to choose between alternatives.

I disagree, that beauty and value couldn’t be a result of evolution. feeling beauty and ability to find beauty in everything around you helps survival, it’s a reward for doing hard work of staying alive, so evolution favoured it. And it’s an act of creation on the part of animals to see the beauty.

Thank you Mark! Finding this in Auguat 2024...Feeling like we may have to take a run at Christmas this year as there maybe distractions and disruption on the Advent horizon.

why do you hate women?

you are ignorant beyond belief-- slave master

i've been participating all my life-- and was made a slave to so-called rational thinking. all the scientists are women haters. all the religions are women blaming. little by little my imagination was donated to violent monkeys who only want war. you call this imagination? imagination requires free will and your mind does not allow it.

anything to chat about social justice and everyone is a racist while i'm the only real christian that owns jesus and my name is mr. science. make sure you plug BLM

I would love to have a best friend like Iain. Just imagine the wonderful conversations! Thank you all for this.

Just before 1.;31/1:41:5 -Were the 2 references to the violin associated to his illustration of the bow ,with or without the arrow?

1;24;33. Violin metaphor ..where was that? The different bows?

Letting fly the note of sound is by string and horsehair friction which is energy enerlgy release but projecting an arrow although energy realeas in space is not as sophisticated as music?