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@SirEliteGrunt
@SirEliteGrunt 10 сағат бұрын
I know this video is two years old but I have been searching for a build that doesn’t use violent momentum or clone. Do you think this is even possible?
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ 4 сағат бұрын
Not really. Violent Momentum isn't just a strong skill, it's quite literally the core of Zane's entire damage formula. If you look through it, there's not a lot of raw damage elsewhere within any of Zane's trees with few exceptions, but those values are all relatively low for being the only damage outside of VM. And that's simply because VM is often giving percentages well into the hundreds of gun damage, so those small multipliers go a long way. Without that massive base to work from, those damages don't mean too much. Excluding VM, Zane can only get a max of 173% gun damage (This is the value of ALL gun damage in his trees + the Kill Skill boost from Seein' Red & Death Follows Close *and* Confident Competence, meaning that this isn't even a possible spec). On average, VM gives you 300-400% with the high end being almost or even into 1000%. Even with an impossible spec, any multiplicative damage bonus isn't going to be anywhere near as effective as it is with just VM, and the formula wouldn't be strong enough to really function. The only possible builds without Violent Momentum or Clone is either a pure SNTNL-damage build (which is more gimmicky than viable, but definitely possible) or a MNTIS cannon build, which is genuinely viable. Both benefit heavily from investing all the way into blue tree, but I suppose it's not necessary for either to take VM.
@rangerarion6937
@rangerarion6937 15 сағат бұрын
Ngl if the magazine could reach like 20 on the Clairvoyance, I feel like it would probably dominate even harder with this build when it comes to mobbing
@dewhoa6308
@dewhoa6308 Күн бұрын
i know this is like a year or so old but in case anyone else is watching now or in the future, yes, the ammo consumption does suck--but I promise you, slap on a shield/grenade with ammo regen while terrified + either a facepuncher (recommended) or a blade fury with a 25% on melee to terrorize yourself anoint, and youre golden.
@ericormathias
@ericormathias Күн бұрын
Thanks for uploading this a few hours after I reinstalled the game! Clone Zane is my favorite build so I was looking for a refresher. Great work as always
@BDda2434
@BDda2434 Күн бұрын
Hello! Enjoy your content! Has anyone you know having trouble with saves or crashing since the update? None of my new 72 characters will save, I have been to AR withem and the legendry's extracted will be in my bank but the new 72 will not. also I keep crashing in arms race PC just turns off. Never had any of thees prob before. SUCKs
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ Күн бұрын
Haven't heard of this issue, but it sounds like potentially your drives are running out of storage? That's the first thing that popped into my head at your description, but I ain't too well versed in the technical issues of pcs lol
@BDda2434
@BDda2434 Күн бұрын
@@arachnica_ I cleaned them up yesterday I have at least 20% available. I don’t understand. This only started happening after the update.
@BDda2434
@BDda2434 Күн бұрын
@@arachnica_ oh thanks so much for replying. I know you’re busy dude.
@chocobolord_
@chocobolord_ Күн бұрын
This build is sick! Amazing montage! It literally made me wanna play melee Amara.
@Sodamachine62
@Sodamachine62 Күн бұрын
I spect fractal frags with double barrel once and i literally sat there and watched clone throw grenades for 45 seconds straight
@temporalguiste4111
@temporalguiste4111 Күн бұрын
The flood is definitely my favorite Jacob's pistol. It may not be the strongest, but the feeling of shooting 12 bullets in 5 seconds makes me feel like I'm using bl2 Jacob's with an auto clicker
@AangZero
@AangZero Күн бұрын
One of Zane's biggest flaws designed wise, it's he suffers from some serious poor skill placement across his kit. Skills like trick of the light, like a ghost, sheer will, have never made sense for why they were placed so far down into their trees, and not to mention his undercover tree is by far the worst in this aspect.
@johnscott-ul7rq
@johnscott-ul7rq Күн бұрын
I know it’s your opinion, but that green tree is so underrated. It is the foundation of my main Zane’s build. Far more effective than hustler/eraser. To me all the purple tree were really worthless.
@youennleost3366
@youennleost3366 Күн бұрын
Yo got a question, the "playing dirty" skill can go up to 72~98% of proc but with a class mod with point into that skill, it goes above 100%. Does that mean it can proc twice ? So triple projectiles ?
@kamilkarwowski5579
@kamilkarwowski5579 Күн бұрын
This skill doesnt work like that, the % value in the skill description is the chance to activate skill itself not a chance for additional projectile
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ Күн бұрын
If you go above 100%, it just means you'll get those 5 shots of an extra projectile every time you kill something/use an action skill. It's really not worth going above 40% since having it proc ~a third to half of the time already means it's pretty much constantly active.
@dannykoordi2558
@dannykoordi2558 Күн бұрын
Those intro transitions were clean my guy
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ Күн бұрын
ay thanks :)
@adamtwarowski1053
@adamtwarowski1053 Күн бұрын
Bussing
@ForecastTheR1zz
@ForecastTheR1zz Күн бұрын
Is this still good?
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ Күн бұрын
This build isn't too old and nothing has really changed since the upload. Still the build I run most of the time on my Amara, still damn good.
@HansoMo
@HansoMo 2 күн бұрын
After Borderlands3, Tiny Tinas fail and the movie... i really don't want any more Borderlands told by activists and impotents...
@ziehwegdesding
@ziehwegdesding 2 күн бұрын
Is it possible to get a 5/5 roll of Do Harm? I've seen conflicting information on the topic and was wondering, whether or not you guys have seen a 5/5 drop.
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ 2 күн бұрын
Yeah it's possible, just difficult. With each point you roll into a skill it becomes harder and harder to roll another since class mods work off a parts system, so as rare as a 4/5 can be, it drops significantly more often than a 5/5. It is possible, just fucking annoying.
@temporalguiste4111
@temporalguiste4111 2 күн бұрын
This was the first torgue i used, cause i wasn't a fan of mbeing damaged by my own weapons at first, and its still one of my favorites. May not be the best but as ya said, its good on moze so it's basically my go to pistol since its usable there. really hope it gets buffed but i doubt it will
@her0x0ftime85
@her0x0ftime85 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for these!
@koakiilereagl5510
@koakiilereagl5510 2 күн бұрын
You mention thinking the planet could be Maliwan, but I really think it could even be Hyperion's home world. The structure you see in the background looks really sharp and sleek, more like how Opportunity looked in bl2, which also take into account the years that have passed between then and now. Like the structure seems a bit more sleek than opportunity, but still same kind of architecture/design. That could just be home world is more advanced or and maybe even both, look at loader bots in bl2 vs bl3, they got more sleek and more angles added to them vs just a rough edged box. Who's to say the same did not happen with their structures. I also don't think its Maliwan because we see Maliwan ships and they are rounded, small or large, everything Maliwan seems to not really have a pointed end to it, where that structure is basically all pointed. Then the mask if it is not handsome jack, perhaps its just meant to make you think Hyperion and now the new leader, maybe Blake? or someone new has taken the reigns and for the last few years have had their planet in hiding, hence the shield Elpis breaks. For the hand, I can see it being a guardian that is just there to protect whatever vault might be present, perhaps Hyperion is in a constant "war" with them to try and open it for power? idk that's just my theory and it was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that structure, it looked like something right out of Opportunity to me. Plus I just think it would be cool to visit the Hyperion home world, maybe we get to learn some more lore/backstory on how it was formed like we did with Jakobs on Eden 6.
@Profoundkarma2000
@Profoundkarma2000 3 күн бұрын
Watch this, there’s gonna be a imperfect version of the worlds and there will be an evil Roland and all them
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ 2 күн бұрын
Evil Roland is gonna pull up wearing a shield n shit
@joshelderkin9592
@joshelderkin9592 3 күн бұрын
I thought we killed the watcher in 3?
@joshelderkin9592
@joshelderkin9592 3 күн бұрын
My mam the inital "7th siren" eas a he so whos to say the actual 7th siren isnt a he?
@kaigoboom
@kaigoboom 3 күн бұрын
If you shoot this thing and swap to the guardian angel shotgun it can work fine at a distance. Not good, but fine
@t.k.3580
@t.k.3580 3 күн бұрын
Low-key my favorite shotgun on normal mode. Not very good too far past that though
@darkjester374
@darkjester374 3 күн бұрын
I believe it might be commandant steel because we never saw what her ability is
@LordZeroTheNightmare
@LordZeroTheNightmare 3 күн бұрын
I dont think theres a single good Maliwan Shotgun in all of BL3.
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ 3 күн бұрын
Trevonator is incredibly good, Frequency is awesome, Nothingness is pretty damn solid and the Recursion can wreck shit with the right set up. Insider can also be good. There are some really great ones, it's just that there's tons of absolutely dogshit ones. And when contrasted by Maliwan having some of the most busted guns when it comes to other weapon types, shotguns really stand out by overall not being that great.
@LordZeroTheNightmare
@LordZeroTheNightmare 3 күн бұрын
@@arachnica_ yeah, maliwan SMGs for ex, are on a whole other level lol
@TheRickJF
@TheRickJF 3 күн бұрын
Vault Hunters make their own fate.
@michaelflammer3622
@michaelflammer3622 3 күн бұрын
My guy, the nostalgia of the old school wisp... spamming that gun until out of fight for your life was my play-style for those early days!
@Red-yt2dk
@Red-yt2dk 3 күн бұрын
I did not forget the KOTW It's my favorite gun in this entire game
@joerobinson69
@joerobinson69 4 күн бұрын
THANK YOU for this video series! This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I played BL3 at release with Fl4k and I just jumped back in to play with Zane. Generally, I prefer to wing-it and create my own build. I went online to do some research into Zane because I wanted basic information that explains his skill trees and gives tips on synergies. All I could find when researching, however, were ready-made builds. This entire series you have created is perfect for someone like me who is looking for info to get creative on his own, and not necessarily looking to copy someone else's build. :D
@Sodamachine62
@Sodamachine62 4 күн бұрын
Tickle the wisp
@Zombi3kill3rOO
@Zombi3kill3rOO 4 күн бұрын
i like the mode but it's boring with barely any people and no one ever waits to get the lobby above like 12 people
@Red-yt2dk
@Red-yt2dk 3 күн бұрын
Bro what are you on about are you lost
@Favk21
@Favk21 4 күн бұрын
I have played 2544.1 hours of BL3 and have not used this weapon even once.
@houseofm9700
@houseofm9700 4 күн бұрын
Give it 500% element nova on elemental crit annoint its the poor mans free radical/beacon
@MrBlueWaooWaoo
@MrBlueWaooWaoo 4 күн бұрын
For a while now I've had a little fanfiction in my head that the main villain of BL3 would be a male Eridian that kind of "goes rogue" and wages a civil war on the universe with Vladof as a secondary antagonist. Which, that's still a batshit theory based on nothing, but it's weird that the trailer kind of leans into my own fucked up delusions TLDR: gearbox stole from me and I'm suing in November.
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ 4 күн бұрын
I fucking love this theory and am totally willing to represent you pro bono. Disclaimer: I have no legal experience but it can't be that hard. I watched Better Call Saul.
@judsongaiden9878
@judsongaiden9878 4 күн бұрын
Would it be more BFG-like if the element was radiation?
@stefsmurf
@stefsmurf 4 күн бұрын
Ok, in complete honestly, I only tested this with a Storm, not a Wisp. And with a Storm, with our man Flynt, it was just super awesome. Everything freezes, and since the damage of the storage is twice of Wisp, it freezes really quick. Since the Storm and the Wisp has similar interactions with their lightening chains, I assume that answers your question. It'll happen, just a bit slower. (To speed up, I suspect a Revolter (I don't have one) would double the dmg plus firing speed, allowing it to become almost Storm like in dmg output.) That being said, even with the smaller ammo pool, the Storm is so much better, it's not even funny. Even assuming you're not trying to even hit them directly, like the Wisp, the Storm's splash dmg more than makes up for it, and with getting crits on the chains, every VH can take advantage of it (except Amara, but she in general likes elemental splash dmg, and has multiple skills to share that dmg to everyone nearby).
@PaneledPear
@PaneledPear 4 күн бұрын
The Storm really messed this thing up, huh?
@stefsmurf
@stefsmurf 4 күн бұрын
@@PaneledPear Yeah, and I made a mistake earlier. I said that shotgun ammo pool is bigger than sniper, but in this case, it's actually reversed. The Storm (2 ammo per shot), can fire 102 times. The Wisp (5 ammo per 2 orbs), you can only get 56 shots off. Even if it's the single orb variant, you're only getting 70 shots off. Plus, the Storm can actually kill on it's own. The lightening chain is just bonus damage. There is literally no reason to use the Wisp over the Storm, unless you can't get one to drop.
@PaneledPear
@PaneledPear 4 күн бұрын
@@stefsmurf 20% drop from the easiest boss in the game, it's very easy to get a Storm. Talk about insult to injury.
@stefsmurf
@stefsmurf 4 күн бұрын
@@PaneledPear Well, in fairness, Jr is the easiest with Mayhem scaling, since he doesn't get any. He's actually a bit of work in the regular playthrough, though not too overwhelming once you figure out how he works.
@PaneledPear
@PaneledPear 4 күн бұрын
@@stefsmurf I guess he has some difficulty pre-mayhem. Still, I'd say he's one of the easier story bosses tbh.
@cmxi
@cmxi 4 күн бұрын
Do you have a build for speed zane?
@bullshifterz8815
@bullshifterz8815 4 күн бұрын
I sincerely hope that it is not Maliwan. Give me Jack or give me death.
@saaaaaaaaalt838
@saaaaaaaaalt838 4 күн бұрын
I keep getting this weapon mixed up with the breath of the dying. Which is weird because those weapons aren't alike at all.
@Red-yt2dk
@Red-yt2dk 3 күн бұрын
Their names have the same cadence, so I can see how that's a mixup you'd make
@shadowlightx9441
@shadowlightx9441 4 күн бұрын
Make the chains also scale with splash damage so moze can be even stronger
@PaneledPear
@PaneledPear 4 күн бұрын
This weapon sucks and it's kind of sad. It's a cool weapon. Moze synergy is such a crutch lol. And still not great.
@B_Skizzle
@B_Skizzle 4 күн бұрын
There’s one more interaction that you didn’t mention. Much like the Storm, the chain lightning effect makes this gun very fun to use with the 500% elemental crit anointment.
@IgniterSA
@IgniterSA 4 күн бұрын
I love how this gun feels like Doom's BFG9k. Shame it is not capable of doing the same amount of damage Edit: baby maker when?
@miltoast
@miltoast 4 күн бұрын
you know the gun is shit when even early on its dogshit
@GuestIsBad
@GuestIsBad 4 күн бұрын
Stinky gun
@Toastynx
@Toastynx 4 күн бұрын
Been waiting for this gun🗣️🗣️
@TankyCrobat
@TankyCrobat 4 күн бұрын
Extra damage from behind like a buttplug should
@bellystraw
@bellystraw 4 күн бұрын
Can we get an infiltrator zane build? I feel like that class mod while not top tier can do some cool stuff (revolter spam mostly) the other mods can't
@arachnica_
@arachnica_ 4 күн бұрын
I've actually already got a video on a build that runs purely the Infiltrator, though also uses terror. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6m2qouofqtqpck Other than that, I'm not sure I'd make a video just on a more generic Infiltrator build since it's pretty plug n play with most set ups, allowing for freeing up that shield anoint slot. It plays about the same as the Executor just without a crit focus and slightly lower damage potential overall. If you do want that sorta build, check out my Ultimate Zane build (kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXLThGimlNubaNE) and just swap out COM and shield anoint. Which is actually what I do with this build myself for bossing vs things that don't have an easily accessible crit spot. You're absolutely right though, Infiltrator doesn't get enough credit as an option. Absolutely amazing COM that's about the same tier if not better than the Antifreeze since it fills the same purpose, just with more build variety behind it. It's just that those builds tend to overlap with the Spy and Executor.
@mikecoxlong7072
@mikecoxlong7072 4 күн бұрын
what if the face represents the 7th siren, but this siren is able to control vault monsters? unlike handsome jack. I mean it kinda make sense to an extent, its the face of jack with the vault symbol on it, maybe its symbolizing jack's journey of trying to control vault monsters, maybe not even a siren.....
@zacharyposey8483
@zacharyposey8483 4 күн бұрын
By chance do you still have a extra +3 Muse that I could have?