Great video. I watched the whole thing (although I did swipe the play bar to see if it reveal viewing behavior!) Thanks for making, and for sharing your BIOS woes!
@sc0orКүн бұрын
With 16 HDDs I think a mini ITX motherboard is not more an option, cause you need to provide a good power and a good ventilation, and so a case will be big enough for mATX/ATX motherboard with few extra PCIe for SATA adapters, and a fast ethernet, and a proper bifurcation for M.2 drives. Like, you can use full ATX motherboards for E5 Xeon v3/v4, or Threadripper 1950p, etc.. PCIe gen 3.0 is fine there.
@rdavis73502 күн бұрын
10:12 Nice cat!
@night_h4nter2 күн бұрын
nah, (almost) nobody's buying 45drives for a homelab, so that particular argument i don't think is valid. what would be a more valid one is that things like hl15 are not that big, so they might be used in small-medium businesses where there's no dedicated server room, so they'd benefit from a more quiet option also why would you bother with windows for plex?
@debugin12272 күн бұрын
check cables first as cheaper than an HBA
@rajilsaraswat97633 күн бұрын
One advantage in the US is that supermicro cases like SC846 are plenty on ebay. Isnt that a better choice than HL 15?
@PeterBrockie3 күн бұрын
Yes and no. I run my HL15 with the Noctua fans turned way down and it's super quiet. Most SM cases are super loud that or you need to track down a quiet version of their PSUs, etc. I think overall for noise and features the HL15 works for me... At a price...
@night_h4nter2 күн бұрын
@@PeterBrockie you can quiet down a sm case by replacing the built-in fan wall with 3 120s or 140s
@MadMatty723 күн бұрын
Thank you, i'm not the only one. Cpu makers love limiting pcie lanes.
@Mutation6663 күн бұрын
100% would rather have back case top screws
@DavidBoggus3 күн бұрын
I have the 20U version of the rack you showed and I just ordered 2 cases from Sliger (will be here Monday) with rails. What issues did you have with the rails and what kind of solution did you come up with?
@PeterBrockie3 күн бұрын
The HL15 server rails work perfectly. The Sliger ones jam completely. You can't push the server in at all. They use different models now so maybe they're better. Protip: at least in the 12U, once you get some hardware installed you can remove the top-front frame and it gives you one more I of space for a switch or something. They made the frame 1U in size. Haha
@stokley1214 күн бұрын
I caved and ordered the HL-15 last week after foreseeing the issues you mention. This is the first time I've actually seen proper footage of the 6 bay SSD caddy which I also ordered! I'm on the fence about replacing the fans. I thought I'd get it first and see how it is, but I know I'll be happier just throwing Noctua fans in from the start. Supposedly you can reduce a few watts since they are PWM and won't be 100% 24/7. 45drives does offer a Noctua option at purchase or a kit post-purchase. I opted to forego that because it includes a fan hub which needs a SATA power connector. If you are powering their backplane with the recommended 4xPSU <> Molex connector, that doesn't leave many SATA/peripheral PSU ports left, so I'm snagging a few fan splitters to run each set of 3 fans off 1 MB fan header. This should make cabling cleaner too since you don't need extension cables to reach the hub etc. I like your approach of replicating the pools but wouldn't that ideally be done on a separate box to avoid any shared point of failure? One other thing - their Noctua kit comes with 3xNoctua NA-IS1-12 inlet spacers for the 3 front fans. Apparently these improve both airflow and noise when the fans are right up against grills and other obstacles.
@Akshun824 күн бұрын
You're absolutely right, not worth tearing your hair out troubleshooting cables and backplanes when you've got this awesome offering from 45Drives. I also sprung for a CX3151a not too long ago. Had been debating for a while given the price plus shipping to Australia but man, such a nice quality case.
@computersales4 күн бұрын
Eww I thought part of the HL15 price was nice fans. I honestly don't get the appeal of the case due to its price.
@kuro680004 күн бұрын
Uh oh, intel 13th gen... Hopefully the update keeps it safe.
@PeterBrockie4 күн бұрын
Meh, I don't care if it dies. Intel will replace it for free. Hell, when my 13900k died they replaced it with a 14900k.
@SergioInToronto4 күн бұрын
Great video thank you!
@rajilsaraswat97634 күн бұрын
Lack of cooling is a big downside for the sliger case IMHO. I had trouble with rosewill case too like you. Turned out that the 8087 cables had gone bad. I replaced them and the zpool is happy now.
@PeterBrockie4 күн бұрын
Most of their cases are triple 120mm fans (like Rosewill and just about every 4U case), so I don't really have any worries about cooling for most things. I took the hit on the cooler size because I wanted the option for drives and the system is quite low power. That being said, I should have just gotten the driveless one since in retrospect I will probably never have drives in there. haha
@darkmann124 күн бұрын
* chef's kiss *
@chaoticsystem22114 күн бұрын
meow
@JasonsLabVideos4 күн бұрын
Thanks for this sir, im about to start planning a large storage box .. Been looking at this 45drives case too !
@PeterBrockie4 күн бұрын
I shot this video a few months ago and haven't had any problems with my HL15. Highly recommended.
@JasonsLabVideos4 күн бұрын
@@PeterBrockie How much was just the chassis with backplane ? I'm in canada and pricing things out.
@PeterBrockie4 күн бұрын
Looks like it's over $1200 Canadian schillings. From what I just read they recently upped their prices and it was already an expensive case. On the plus side they're Canadian so maybe shipping won't be horrible depending on where you are (they're on the east coast if I recall).
@derekgassen84605 күн бұрын
there are m.2 to 6 port sata cards for $39.
@DarkFox22326 күн бұрын
You buy one of B550 quality boards and Ryzen 7 5700G. They have 2 PCIe M.2 NVMe slots on board. And 4x4x4x4 PCIe configuration, enabling another 4 M2. NVMe without expensive card. Quite a few have 2.5G LAN. My server with this idles at ~25W while having all the server services running... eating some 28GB out of 64GB RAM, ready for workloads. This SATA obsession reminds me of: "Roads?! Where we're going We don't need Roads!"
@JohanlastZa6 күн бұрын
Mmmmm....3 x NVME slots: add 3 x NVME PCI-E Card Riser III...18 drives plus the 8 onboard SATAs then add PCIE SATA Card 16 Ports 6Gb SATA 3.0: 18 + 8 + 16: 42 SATA 3 drives. But wait, there is more: 4 external USB ports. That is a whopping 46 drives. IF you want more drives though, you can change the USB drives so each USB port connects to a dual HDD dock (dual 10 TB drives), which will then change it to 42 internal plus 8 external drives.....50 drives. Imagine the cost of 50 x 10TB drives
@NevaranUniverse7 күн бұрын
Where did you get those M.2 boxes?
@PeterBrockie7 күн бұрын
They're 3D printed - link to the STL is in the description.
@NevaranUniverse7 күн бұрын
@@PeterBrockie Sweet, cheers
@thekancer8 күн бұрын
CAT!
@jonathane94039 күн бұрын
Can you use the m.2 slot to have an internal bootable install linux OS? This might be useful in the event that your linux system fails to boot and then you can boot into the install m.2 in order to call up the terminal within the install m.2 to make repairs on the main linux system.
@Mr.Leeroy9 күн бұрын
sks8300-8x looks more interesting TBH, and twice cheaper
@positive501610 күн бұрын
Ai accelerator
@romanrm110 күн бұрын
Ha, I have a switch from the same company. But mine is 8x2.5+1x10g unmanaged. It's currently put away in the storage, because I first upgraded NICs to 5 Gbit which it doesn't support, and then to 10 Gbit over UTP.
@Promit10 күн бұрын
With those PSU caps, it wouldn't be the first time fake Japanese branded caps have been put in a Chinese sourced device. I'm not saying they are, or aren't fake, but the labeling isn't 100% trustworthy.
@PeterBrockie10 күн бұрын
You never know with anything, but Powerld does at least seem to be a legit company, I mean, they're no household name that's for sure.
@Mr.Leeroy9 күн бұрын
PSU looks legit without even reading brands. Very decent size transformer for something of this low power. All the filtering is in place. Hell, there is something looking like GDT, good luck finding those outside industrial & telecom tailored units.
@stephenxs835410 күн бұрын
Use a m.2 to sata adaptor.
@blacksundarkskies10 күн бұрын
kvm ?
@rajilsaraswat976310 күн бұрын
Your videos are always interesting. This is way cheaper than a unifi switch i guess.
@the_beefy198611 күн бұрын
The 2.5/10g aliexpress options have been a game changer for the homelab scene. STH coverage and testing helps a lot too.
@PeterBrockie11 күн бұрын
I forgot to mention, but there is a PoE version of this switch. It seems to have dual 40mm cooling fans so it's probably a bit louder. Model: SKS7300-8GPY4XGS-P. Link in the description. Also, if you have any issues with DAC's not being detected. Go into Switching -> Port Media Type Config and change each SFP+ port mode to DAC. "DAC 50cm" works fine on all my ports regardless of how long the cables are.
@jacquesb524815 күн бұрын
so it's a case. so you have to buy a mb and cpu and ram and OS....then the price is about the same as other nas which comes with everything but drives
@PeterBrockie15 күн бұрын
Except you can pick what kind of hardware you want to use and possibly use hardware toy already have spare. You can go low power/low cost for basic NAS stuff, or a fast CPU and GPU for a Plex server. It is the same thing as buying a pre-made Dell or building a PC yourself.
@jacquesb524814 күн бұрын
@@PeterBrockie true true
@samk240716 күн бұрын
This hase driven me insane looking for a motherboard for this
@AlexandreFerreira-lj4dp16 күн бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing it we do appreciate it! another possible use is M.2 to MiniPCIe to add a mini PCIe Firewire 800/400 card. Many advanced audio users still have Firewire Audio Interfaces mostly under Linux (like me!) I haven't tried that yet. But I will let you know hahahah. Thanks again
@bhargavzantye768816 күн бұрын
awesome video 👌 👌 u helped me a lot
@DylansRedFaygo17 күн бұрын
i wish i could time travel
@kcopy19 күн бұрын
Ich habe hier einen Robotron A7100 inkl Robotron Monitor und Drucker :-) auf dem läuft ein emuliertes! MS-Dos 5 .. sobald er fertig überholt ist, möchte ich dazu was auf meinem Kanal zeigen.
@Rakku19 күн бұрын
How would power consumption with a build with this and a 13500T look like? For example: Mentioned MB, 13500T, 32GB Ram, 2x12TB Seagate IronWolf and low to moderate workloads in Proxmox VM`s.
@PeterBrockie19 күн бұрын
Most modern Intel systems idle around 20w and then you add for each hard drive. Usually 7w or so.
@Helder_Paulo21 күн бұрын
Hello. And an m.2 to usb? Thunderbolt can de added?
@PeterBrockie21 күн бұрын
As far as I know it doesn't exist.
@PanzerShrimp23 күн бұрын
I use an m.2 to pcie to AI accelerator
@macualey24 күн бұрын
this actually looks like the perfect board but you can get the same features just by going with an mATX board for sooo much cheaper.
@zinovyrozhestvensky363624 күн бұрын
You can connect certain ssds to the M.2 slot and if you have a micro ssd, it is possible to dremel off connections until it fits as a guy on Reddit did it, but whatever the case, you’ll probably have to use uefi mode to boot off it
@martontichi861128 күн бұрын
I love your videos. I dont't find an of these cases satisfying. I think the best choice for me is the Dell Poweredge t330.
@PeterBrockie28 күн бұрын
As with most things it depends. Personally I'd rather build my own system with standard parts than be locked into Dell's selection of motherboards, etc. That being said, there's nothing wrong with wanting a ready made machine.
@GermanMythbuster29 күн бұрын
The Problem is that IO is very power hungry. The more lanes a CPU has the higher the idle Power Consumption. My Server uses about 15-18w idle (at the wall, drives spun down) (ryzen 3600, 1x m.2, no gpu, 2 RAM Sticks (RAM needs ~2.5w per stick), 4x8tb drive) but even with optimizing if you need the PCI lanes you basically can't get any lower, maybe you can achieve 10-13w at the wall, but if you need a 400$ PSU to do it, meeh...
@joaomiguelxsАй бұрын
10gbe network adapters is the best m2 variation
@bramo0561Ай бұрын
Nice video exactly what I needed
@ihordark5994Ай бұрын
for the board with the SIM card on it, it does required to be equipped with miniPCIE form factor wwan card. (i.e Quectel EC25)