They most likely use JBL at the concert so…

I love my Klipsch Heresy IV..sounds so great with a Line Magnetic LM211iA..that brings you very close to the live feeling to good live recordings

I love kef have stand mount reference series but i feel this modell while very nice seems to muddy the sound of Norah Jones in a big room. They sound better in a longer slimmer room.

jbl s3900

I would love to know what you think about the Gershman Grand Avant Garde. Or any of the Gershman series. I've heard the Avant Garde at a Seattle hi-fi show a few years ago, and thought they sounded wonderful.

Hi! This concerns the Dyanaudio Emit-speakers especially Emit 20. Dont know if Youve seen the very thourough measurements a guy did on this Emit speakers. If this is anywhere the same for the rest of the Emits its very bad. I have had the Emit 20:s and when you listen to for ex. classical piano there is a "shine" to the higer register thats very annoying. Maybee thats why som KZbin testers prefered the much, much cheaper Dali Zensor 3. At that time.

I think a pair of Klipsch towers will suffice .....

Teste mal Dual CL 190 4 Weg Boxen aus 1975

Took me 20 years to find my perfect fit, and there have been many good ones along the way. Then there's the fact that my taste actually changed lol! Proac for the win! 👍👍

Great topic. Started on this route myself a couple of years ago. Modern do it all (almost), Hegel and a 24 year old pre and power amp combo (upgraded/serviced). Still run both. Look forward to next installment.

One of the big reasons I’m looking at one day moving up to pre/power, is the ability to run into a crossover so the signal can be distributed between the mains and subs with full volume control. I understand you can have volume control for subs with either a pre-out or using RELs preferred connection, but the full frequency range is still going to the main speakers.

Good video Terry. Not an easy subject as you have identified. With the speakers he had already tried I would initially have identified issues may have centred around his amplification and front end. An example of Pink Floyds Pulse concert which I have on vinyl, CD and DVD, The vinyl through a MC cartridge into a Tom Evans Groove phono stage sounded like being there, DVD and CDthrough various DAC's over the years failed to give that sound until my latest DAC upgrade which closes the gap to the vinyl. Your suggestion of auditioning at shows and shops is definitely the best way forward as then something will click and give direction,

Now i know for sure, you are AI. Saying you’re not AI is a typical thing an AI would say…

You can only suggest what components work well with each other from a technical point. Usually matching the combination of any amps power output to any speakers sensitivity is the crux or main concern when buying. There are so many bad setups that are based purely on the visual aspect of a components design. Also, the size of the room or speaker placement for the main focal point in a room. Have you explained any of this in your video? I didn't notice if you explained to the questioner that a "live concert recording" is exactly just that. The only way you can mimic a live recording is by processing the signal path. This can be achieved with an AV amp that has several concert hall sound algorithms, amps such as my Yamaha. This means that you will be adding reverberation and echo to the reproduction The purpose of a good quality HIFI set up is to reproduce the original signal as accurately as possible. This added reverberation is just the sort of problem that any discerning audiophile will be trying to eliminate. There is no single speaker on the market that will alter the sound character of any recording to achieve what the questioner requires, you should know this fact, but there are amplifiers and DJ effect toys on the market that will. So really the question is nonsensical . On the other hand the questioner might want want a 1000 watt PA system and not a HIFI set up.

The cartridge and wires going from it true the tonearm matters. Most other things does not.

Audiophile listeners problem: they want their "live" back again. And they believe, money will bring it back in big and shiny boxes.

in the 80's I built a pair of large cabinet speakers with 18" sub, 15" bass, 8"mid, horn loaded compression drivers, all RCF and JBL professional drivers used for concert sound. I did all the cabinet in high grade marine plywood at the MIT woodworking laboratory in Cambridge. the 4 way passive crossover was designed by an audio engineer. I put them on caster wheels to move them around. I used them for live music and music listening for 35 years!!! the amps were initially a Soundcraftsmen then Yamaha P3500 pro amp. in the early 2000s I had the room calibrated and used Behringer DSP to fine tune the frequency response. Speaking of Live Concert sound I had it for countless years.

A good active crossed over PA SYSTEM, and it will cost less than the domestic consumer audiophile toys. or Klipsch La Scala/Khorn/Jubilee (Jubilee is a bargain at its price), considering Khorns last 50 years across father son generations, these are cheap

Glad you covered plenty of aspects. Great video Had speakers that made studio recordings sound live. Didn't like them. Spent enough money on expensive speakers which didn't impress, going back to budget and diy.

Hi again! Great sound test and review! Size of the room? Thank you!

There is no replacement for displacement. Need lots of driver surface area. Like the Tekton Design MOAB. Can do 110db concert-level all day. Most towers can't.

Klipsch Forte III or IV - that's live sound for you (I have the III's)... No subs needed, place them close to the wall. Have driven them with a 9 Watt tube amp, and now 250 Watt mono block - both wonderful, but there's something about efficient speakers and a lot of power. That's PA live sound!

Emotiva T-3 are a Great choice I have there Bookshelf Speaker's and there C-2 center Speaker's two of them for my side's and They are clear an extremely powerful you do have to have an amplifier but that's the good thing about it you want Power these are some Speakers I highly Recommend anyone checking out..I love mine..🤟 14:30

I am enjoying this video. I don't have an issue with the price. I love watching and listening to this video, thanks.

Cerwin Vega 12 or 15 in speakers with class D amp like the Crown 2502 XLS. Use a high end Preamp to clean up the sound.or add tubes.

If trying to do on the cheap, Klipsch rp-600m (with a sub if needed) ?

Really nice suggestions and considerations. But I can't help thinking that one do well in consider the whole audio chain. The system that I have heard in normal listening environment is the old version Snell speakers e.g Snell J/2 and E/2 driven by tube like Audio Note or Audioinnovations amps with a very modest analog source (Systemdek/Goldring). I am still chasing that sound. I think Devore speakers develop on this concept with e.g. Mcintosh amps. But then the budget is blown I think.

Balanced connection have no relevance in domestic audio.

In a couple words.......KLIPSCH FORTE' 4. I have a pair, and they can get it!! 😊

Since most of the sound you hear come from PA speakers, why not try powered PA speakers?

JBL Pro, QSC, Yamaha powered PA powered speakers w/ DSP for ambience. Even the highest end offerings by these manufacturers for the pro market significantly rival home audio in terms of price. Most are active as well.

L-Acoustics speakers, subs and amps should do it…. That’s what they use on concerts…

Tower designs are based on decades old JBL line arrays. Comb filtering can be canceled by alternating a driver with a passive radiator in line. No current speaker manufacturers are using standing wave calculations for box design. Etc. 🤔

How is he going to to achieve 'live concert sound' performance when he might well be listening to studio recorded music and not concert recorded music ? Great quality source equipment and high grade amplifiers makes even modest speakers sing in a fairly convincing way.

Great video discussion. Through my journey I’ve come to the conclusion that the Preamp may be the most important piece of gear in a high end reference system other than the speakers. The preamp is critical to how the system works together. I had a high end McIntosh preamp that also had a phono stage, DAC, etc. I use all external pieces that have true balanced design. So I moved on to a BAT line stage only tube preamp and the sound quality was dramatically improved. I like the simplicity of the preamp being line stage only. Also, the BAT had numerous true balanced inputs.

Cant stand ported speakers with their chuffing and fake base...

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I like your idea, where someone poses a question on a specific hifi issue, and you use your thoughts, experience, and expertise to offer suggestions. Keep up the good work. Much enjoyed. With thanks.

Thanks, good stuff. Its been at least 30 years since I last played vinyl (too busy and too cluttered) but I want to give it a go again. All my kit used to be considered good so I should just need to set it all up again. Troble is I've forgotten most of the ritual! I think I would prefer cleaning and antistaticing on the turn table as I would be affraid I might drop the record. I think Your testing looks really good but I have a few questions. What does static sound like? That sounds like a daft question perhaps but it is so easy to go down a rabbit hole. Have you tried standing an air ioniser near the turntable to see if that makes a difference? I went straight to Amazon but the ultrasonic stylus cleaner is "out of stock and we don't..." I think some of my records, lying dormant in their sleeves all this time may be mucky, I have heard of fungas growth (though I don'y know if mine might have any). Have you reviewed the wet cleaning technique at all?

Is he open to trying a subwoofer? Even if he has tower speakers, a subwoofer brings a lot to the table. Also, if the live recording sounds too centered,he can try to reverse the phase. It might give more room filling sound.

Magnat Transpuls 1000

Ganz klar macht für mich die CD das Rennen! Ich höre meine bis 1990 gesammelte umfangreiche Plattensammlung mit Thorens TD 147 Goldring 1042 MM (1984) und Thorens TD 2001 Ortofon Rondo Red MC (1989) seit Kauf eines Philipps CD 880 nur noch ganz selten. Meine umfangreiche CD Sammlung geniesse ich aktuell mit Sony CDP -x7 esd, Marantz CD 94 und Marantz CD 85. Die Dynamik und Power und die Details beim Sony-Boliden sind unglaublich, während die Marantze mit den Philipps-Laufwerken u. TDA1541 Chipsätzen atemberaubend seidig harmonisch klingen. Der CD 880 war mir immer zu analytisch. Jedenfalls nervt das Handling bei Platten nur noch, obwohl ich die Optik, Haptik und die zum Teil tollen Plattengestaltungen schon einmalig finde. Daher habe ich meine Plattensammlung auch nie abgegeben. Bei Schallplatten bin ich eigentlich immer enttäuscht wegen der fehlenden Dynamik und Basspower der 70er/80er Aufnahmen und es werden bei mir kaum Emotionen geweckt. für mich ist die CD das Mass der Dinge! Streamen hat im übrigen für mich nichts mit Musikgeniessen zu tun, da verkommt die Musik zum Wegwerfartikel.

Had the Klipsch heresy4’s definitely had the live concert sound. Captivating initially but became very irritating after a few months. Put the Kef’s back in my system to re-calibrate my ears! Thanks for the video!

Nice broad selection of speakers for that "live" sound. From the speakers I have heard, Klipsch Heritage including the Heresy iV, Forte iV and Cornwall all are very dynamic and impactful- Cornwall being the ultimate (that I have heard), (subwoofer not required with these) I also thought the mention of trying a multi-channel presentation is a good idea as I sometimes run my AV Receiver NAD T 763 in one of the multi-channel modes and attenuate the center to approx. same volume as mains. Missing was much mention of amp types- but probably a rabbit hole due it's own dedicated video.

The Magnat Transpul seems to check all the boxes, and isn't too expensive.

hi, i have another suggestion for live concert sound. not sure if you can buy them in the UK. but i have been intrigued for some time now with OHM Walsh omnidirectional speakers. i love the idea of the room filling 360 degree sound. and if i remember, the bass fires downwards. different size floorstanders for different room sizes.

Have been using my Klipsch la Scala s since 1978 paid $500 . Sounds as good as the day I bought them. Cheers 🍻 EH 🍁

As always terry, another great video. How do you define a live concert sound? An outdoor pop concert will be very different to an indoor heavy rock concert. How about a choir in a cathedral with great acoustics? Or a small jazz combo in a smaller venue? They will all have different requirements. And that's before you get into the recording, balance, engineering or your own acoustics. Impossible question really.

if one wants sound near original (live or studio) and can / want not spend mor than 10.000 € , one need built speakers on a DIY basis

I have a pair of old Klipsch RF 35 and it sounds just like a live concert but now it's too much for me very shouty so I am going to for a Wharfedale Linton