Mike Kelley

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@brentdobson5264 Жыл бұрын

.... Looks like nature's quantum geometry of thinking manifest in this essential design !

@jeffery7756 Жыл бұрын

Has the 40 hours been flown off yet?

@clementegarcia4261 Жыл бұрын

Hey hero, what about the training you received that specifies that you execute a standard rate of turn (20 degrees) while maintaining altitude till you complete 180 degrees in the opposite direction?

@MJacksonXenos Жыл бұрын

Great video editing!

@bryancotton7279 Жыл бұрын

Where are the right rolls?

@oregonsonex Жыл бұрын

I'm lazy...

@terryboehler5752 2 жыл бұрын

Way to stay alive. Bravo

@ryoungatlmidotnet 2 жыл бұрын

Not much flare. Intentional?

@chrismurphy8071 2 жыл бұрын

Centerline!

@Mike-01234 2 жыл бұрын

N51YX that was the fatal accident few weeks ago. Person killed was Jack davis must have sold it to this guy who crashed.

@AvgDude 2 жыл бұрын

Hey kids… This is a perfect example of something a VFR pilot should never ever do on purpose.

@strikemaster1 2 жыл бұрын

Seems to handle aero's with ease. Does this come in a 2 seat config?

@kelleymp 2 жыл бұрын

It is a 2 seat. Flying acro with two puts it out of W&B though...

@strikemaster1 2 жыл бұрын

@@kelleymp How much out of WB? I ask because I am only 80kg, so how many KG's left?

@strikemaster1 2 жыл бұрын

@@kelleymp What is MTOW?

@kelleymp 2 жыл бұрын

@@strikemaster1 That's a "loaded" question depending on how you build your plane. Nosewheel (like mine) is heavier than tailwheel, paint is heavier than polish, etc. I've heard of Sonex coming in at 600 lbs (empty) while mine was 702 lbs. The builder can set the weight to anything they want however, Sonex recommends 1150 max weight. I set mine to 1200 lbs. Light sport can be up to 1320 lbs. If you are 80 kg (176 lbs), fly with only 1/2 fuel 8 gals (50 lbs), you'd have ~270 lbs for a second passenger in my plane. (the cockpit in an A model like mine would be tight!)

@kelleymp 2 жыл бұрын

As for aerobatics, you'd need to create your own performance chart. Remember that with 2 people, you'd legally need to wear 'chutes. I think that would be problematic for 2 in the small cockpit. I limited my plane to single pilot only when doing acro, therefore no chute and more fuel!

@JohnSmith-vq6ml 2 жыл бұрын

This video is two years old.... is there any updates on this build??

@kelleymp 2 жыл бұрын

Covid set back the project. It's currently having fabric applied, but no flight yet. Let me see if I can get an update. There is an FMX-7 (larger 2-seat) being constructed by Barnaby Wainfan in the bay next to it!

@sganzerlag 2 жыл бұрын

Great first flight, beautiful airplane! Thanks for sharing. Question: what did its empty weight come in at? Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.

@oregonsonex 6 ай бұрын

700 lbs

@sganzerlag 6 ай бұрын

@@oregonsonex wow that is super light! Especially considering it's a two-place aircraft.

@sganzerlag 6 ай бұрын

That's substantially lighter than a j3 cub's empty weight. Even though the j3 has no electrical system.

@bens3641 2 жыл бұрын

Has there been any movement on the 'solid rumor' that Barnaby would be moving into proximity and helping re-ignite the project?

@mavigogun 2 жыл бұрын

Did this project stall? Last I saw, the skin was being doped...

@Goldfinger140 2 жыл бұрын

After defying aerodynamics it might defy gravity…

@philkennedy8683 2 жыл бұрын

it doesnt defy aerodynamics, only your understanding of it.

@Stubby0266 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see Ernie out there.

@daviddavids2884 2 жыл бұрын

ccw prop or reversed view.?!??!?

@Sonex815 2 жыл бұрын

It's a VW. That's the way they turn. Not reversed view.

@rossclements8874 2 жыл бұрын

Any updates on this project? I'm a sucker for lifting bodies and have been a big fan of the Facetmobile for awhile now.

@free-birdrocker8809 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome bird, love the paint scheme. My pop had a Sonerai 1 back in the 80's and it was a sizzler. It was white with green trim, had the wheel pants and it was a shoulder winged tail dragger. He got rid of it long ago but had a blast. Have fun in your Monett Sonex1

@fozzywxman 2 жыл бұрын

This is the dumbest thing I've seen in aviation except for the people who've augered one in. Video 7 yrs old. Are you still alive?

@oregonsonex 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your "kind" words too! Yes I'm alive and kicking. Since then I've amassed 1000+ hours in a variety of aircraft, earned my IFR ticket, and fly around the country in my Lancair. Reminder...this was a video of what NOT to do and how I got myself into that bad situation. Hopefully, it may have helped others.

@farhanfouadacca 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats. Lovely plane. I am planning to start building Sonex soon. How long did it take to finish yours?

@oregonsonex 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It took about 3 years and 1000 hrs. It would have been quicker if I'd not drifted away from the plans in several areas such as the swing-back canopy and split cowl. It's been 9 years flying the plane with very little trouble. It's well behaved and a lot of fun to fly. I'd highly recommend the Sonex! Good luck.

@farhanfouadacca 2 жыл бұрын

1000 hours is not too bad. Was yours a quick build or a regular build?

@oregonsonex 2 жыл бұрын

@@farhanfouadacca Regular build. I liked making all the small parts. I built the spar too. I bought the welded pieces.

@collinmossholder4570 2 жыл бұрын

@@oregonsonex from pallet to first flight what is the price range of this aircraft build

@oregonsonex 6 ай бұрын

@@farhanfouadacca Regular. Not a quick build.

@jeffcauhape6880 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a reference anywhere on lifting body design???

@larrywhalen596 3 жыл бұрын

I've been working on a similar design, which is a little more streamlined by utilizing a NACA 23015 airfoil for the center section out to two thirds of the span which then changes to a 23018 with a small amount (poss. 5°) of washout, (to prevent tip stall), and given time shall build either a 1/4 or 1/3 Scale vehicle to test my concept. I'd like to know what rate the L/D (glide ratio) is for your design is, as well as total area for the craft. Intriguing and highly interesting concept, thanks for taking the next step into the future of what I believe could be an affordable homebuilt aircraft for those of us who have to eat more than once a week.

@lr21643 2 жыл бұрын

Many of your questions would be answered if you read this: wainfan.co/media/pavreport.pdf Using a rounded leading edge will likely mean very different behavior than the Facetmobile has. Not necessarily worse, but different. I imagine you won't be able to fly quite as slowly. Wondering why you want a thicker airfoil at the tips than in the middle.

@kennethkamp495 3 жыл бұрын

Almost no traffic scanning or clearing.

@MarcinP2 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video but my hair stood up when i saw the instrument panel. Pilots used to fly in clods before artificial horizon was common on aircraft. Also a lot of accidents happened in old times so it's difficult even if you practice. On the other hand I doubt you have de-icing equipment on a light vfr craft so climbing out trough the clouds to a safe altitude would be a risk and you'd still have to descend to land. You say you never felt unsafe, have you upgraded the instruments as you said you have planned to?

@MarkSDCA 3 жыл бұрын

I wondered how you get in it.

@root1657 3 жыл бұрын

Up from the bottom.

@Sonex815 2 жыл бұрын

At 0:27, you can see pilot standing in bottom door opening (no door), in front of the seat. In actual use, that is a somewhat unfavorable aspect of this design. Probably don't want the weight of a step structure over the top of the wing, and IIRC, if a top door popped open in flight, lift would be very unfavorably affected.

@stevejones4603 3 жыл бұрын

How can I get plans?

@jamesengland7461 3 жыл бұрын

Open cockpit, unparalleled visibility :)

@jamesengland7461 3 жыл бұрын

Cool plane! Also cool frame rate effect on the prop

@tinolino58 3 жыл бұрын

Me and my brother: two times 220lbs and 6“5 does it work for a short flight?

@tinolino58 3 жыл бұрын

How cool is that!

@tinolino58 3 жыл бұрын

Very inspiring! Nice video 😁 What engine pulls N157MK to 137 IAS mph? Love it! I am 220lbs, flying the swiss alps at FL100-140, maybe a Viking engine: shall I select the Waiex or Sonex tail? Any suggestions pr experiences with aeromementums engines in a Sonex?

@oregonsonex 3 жыл бұрын

Boy...this was 4 yrs ago. Doesn't seem that long. I have a Jabiru 3300A installed and have been very happy with it. Those engine settings were at 2750 RPM, or about 75% power. I was going for better fuel burn for the 3 hr return flight. Normal cruise would be better than 150 MPH with a 5-6 GPH burn.

@oregonsonex 3 жыл бұрын

They are fun, inexpensive planes with few bad habits. They will float on a hot day, but not much. With the short wings, they will drop like a rock, so don't get behind the power curve.

@mafp22w 3 жыл бұрын

Just curious, does the Sonex have any float on landing or are you so precise on speed that it just drops on landing? Looking at buying one.

@waynesimpson2040 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer flat fields and or roads on my route...two engine outs and both times I set down non eventfully in grassy fields😉.... I worked for quality aircraft salvage for years out of groveland Florida and I've picked a lot of fields that were in one piece and I picked them out of forest terrain. You can guess the rest of my story. Just saying when possible keep feilds or roads in reach.😉👍

@antonnym214 3 жыл бұрын

This is beautiful. Can't wait to see it fly. All good wishes!

@G56AG 4 жыл бұрын

Love to see it fly! Neat design that deserves more attention and a 2 seat version.

@TurboDirectSA 4 жыл бұрын

Nicely done -

@garyfischer4357 4 жыл бұрын

Oh brother...

@dereklacy 4 жыл бұрын

stupid pilot

@bibrakc 4 жыл бұрын

What engine is it?

@oregonsonex 4 жыл бұрын

Jabiru 3300

@skruzbucket5957 4 жыл бұрын

G'day Mike, I've just got myself a sonex with a revmarster 2300 (80hp), what engine are you running in yours?

@oregonsonex 4 жыл бұрын

Jabiru 3300...luv it!

@rv7builder397 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, any updates since the taxi test? I don't see any on the chapter website. With Barnaby involved, has there been any discussion with him on releasing plans for the 2 seat version?

@oregonsonex 4 жыл бұрын

The FMX-4 Facetmobile was getting fabric cover when COVID struck and the project was stalled. However I have some interesting news. There is a "very solid" rumor that Barnaby is moving to the 7S5 Independence Airpark and will be an active member of the EAA 292 chapter. He is our guest speaker this Sat! See EAA 292 FB Post for a meeting invite! facebook.com/EAA292/

@rv7builder397 4 жыл бұрын

@@oregonsonex That sounds like great news! Wish I could be there for the meeting, but my wife & I are doing the Covid Quarantine thing, and getting from Slobovia Outernational (MS71) for a chapter meeting would be a bit of a stretch, anyway. :-) Please keep us updated, and hit Barnaby up for FMX-5(+) plans. :-)

@oregonsonex 4 жыл бұрын

@@rv7builder397 It's a virtual meeting. Follow the link!

@johanswart1257 4 жыл бұрын

Not even the birds were flying that day........be careful Sir, lest the ground shalt rise and smite thee!

@bunnykiller65 4 жыл бұрын

Nice landing.

@quinnjim 4 жыл бұрын

This is a great representation of why General Aviation has a terrible safety record. Flying in and out of clouds with high terrain all around. I lost a buddy to this kind of behavior.

@evnthrzon 4 жыл бұрын

I always wanted to build one of these wish plans were available. Looks fantastic.

@ironnerd8898 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely wonderful! I have been a Facetmobile geek since I first saw it in Kitplanes. It is such a new and different design, and really captures the spirit of "Experimental Aviation". Thank-you for all of the work you have done to bring this design back to life. What I have seen thus far looks outstanding! I cannot wait to see it fly!

@oregonsonex 4 жыл бұрын

@rexmann1984 3 жыл бұрын

@@oregonsonex I'm interested in building a space plane off this design. Would you like to attach a rocket to the back of it and fire it once you maxed out altitude with the engine? The fuel consumption and velocity information could be invaluable.

@oregonsonex 3 жыл бұрын

@@rexmann1984 I suggest you go to the eaa292 website and engage with the webmaster there. Barnaby Wainfan lives here at 7S5 and is the best person to answer your question. I understand he's working on a 2-seat version...the FMX-7

@lr21643 2 жыл бұрын

@@rexmann1984 If you make a space plane like this, those sharp corners are going to get very hot. Do you have enough unobtainium?

@rexmann1984 2 жыл бұрын

@@lr21643 belly first for re-entry. That's the only way.

@joseveintegenario-nisu1928 4 жыл бұрын

Fine work! But: Which engine is this? Blessings +

@ryoungatlmidotnet 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like a Great Plains VW conversion.

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