It’s been a hot minute since I listened to any Hifiman headphones… but, I think the Dahlia has very good stage… width and height as well as depth is great… I think Nick developing these while playing games helped a lot with that aspect of his headphones tuning.

I’ll see if I can get one in :)

@ thank bro❤️ Will love to know your opinion on them

I don’t have either so this is just conspiracy but they’re probably like an upgraded bokeh

I think these (Atrium closed) can be used portable… I use my iFi Gryphon with them all the time and enjoy that combo, so the Atrium Closed should work with the Mojo2 as well. For comparison to the Bokeh closed, I’d say the Atrium Closed is technically the better headphones, but shares a lot similarities regarding enjoyment of listening to music with either. Bokeh is an amazing bit of kit and the only reason to go up from it is if you are chasing the audiophile dragon in the pursuit of your “perfect” sound/headphone.

@@TylersEclectic In your honest opinion am I going to want to buy the Mojo 2 for the Bokeh anyway? Or can the Bokeh run purely through an iPhone dongle. I guess if I need the Mojo 2 anyway, the AC might be worth it….then invest in a proper desktop amp later on. Decisions! 😅

@ just tried the Bokeh with the Meze Dongle DAC and it works… and is enjoyable… but it’s definitely not getting the Bokeh to full potential. I had the volume maxed out as well… I think depending on the dongle DAC/amp will depend on how good it performs… something like a Qudelix, or a Fiio ka13 type DAC amp would perform better than a traditional iPhone or cable dongle DAC :) Hope that helps

@@TylersEclectic thank you for your help Tyler! One last question and thanks in advance. How does the bass compare on both? I’ve heard the Bokeh has less sub bass and more mid. Does the Bokeh still extend into the sub? And the AC…It has sub bass, but are the mid bass regions as strong as the Bokeh. Is it just Overall better in this region? Do both react well to EQ? Sorry for asking 500 questions so far 😂😅

I didn’t try any of my IEMs with it while it was here for demo 😅 … but, I did find the balanced 4.4mm the “better” output to use. I’m still missing the bass “on” feature… something addictive about it

Ha! Good spot... I swapped out my normal cable for this video specifically and must have crossed my wires doing so =) I just spent a couple songs listening and going back and forth with swapping right and left with this cable specifically... and sound signature is the same and my above statements in the video stay the same... the only difference is that sounds that are coming from the left would be coming from the right if properly seated. So, basically everything is the same... but mirrored, if I was playing games I would have noticed immediately lol. I stand by my assessment of the Bokeh. My opinions of gear is derived from weeks of listening prior to making a video, so what you see in the video is an accumulation of that experience prior to hitting record... then me jabbering on about it off the top of my head =) as I do not script my videos. Classic mistake ha... good catch =)

If I could only have one I’d go with the Bokeh, but, I’m a ZMF guy. That being said… the Empyrean 2 is the better headphone in regard to technicalities and performance. But, the Bokeh just has a je ne sais quoi… and a joy to listen to.

I’m definitely more of a bass head type… I think that there are better dedicated bass head headphones over the Atriums… but, I found the balance of bass and the other regions to be a nice compliment to each other. The Verites are fun bass headphones and have crazy speed for keeping up with faster tracks… a lot of the ZMFs take to bass boost well. But if you want bass cannons I’d look at Fostex 900s or what have you.. :) Thank you for chatting and the kind encouragement

@ that’s awesome, thanks for the feedback! I was a long time user of emu teaks and Fostex th-x00. Have since upgraded to a kennerton gjallahorn gh50jm and have been very happy with it on all fronts, but there’s still some room for improvement. Im still always on the hunt for an “endgame” basshead can in that TOTL class, but it’s just so hard to get details on their bass potential since most people dropping $2-3k+ on a headphone aren’t cranking up 10-20 dB of low end boost haha. And if they are, they aren’t talking about it. Any ways, I enjoy your content, keep up the good work!

Hmmm 🤔 I don’t know? But, the Bali is generally praised as a great entry point as well…

Just make sure you use quality made cables? I’m not an electrical engineer lol I always have to look up if Single ended to XLR is ok… which generally it is in this case … just do some research on it :) I believe it usually is a problem when going balanced to single ended… and has more to do with how the cables are wired for ground? But don’t quote me as I’m not “positive” (sorry bad electrical joke ha)

@ I saw on some forum somewhere that you can add a 20 ohm resistor to your RCA to XLR cords it turns the cables impedance to be balanced on the topping, also I think your right just the volume will be lowered but with this being a tube hybrid amp and me going to be using the Arya Stealth I shouldn’t have any issues just turning the volume up some more

@ yeah… I think the issue is usually with grounds in the connection shorting and that causes amps or headphones to pop… or if power passes through too much and melts the driver coils? Once again I have very little appropriate knowledge on that stuff and ask my friends that are much more experienced or trained I those areas for advice :) or I research the hell out of it until I’m confident I’ll only possibly mess up lol

@ Just ended up biting the bullet and buying the Hifiman EF400 gonna sell the old DX3

I think so, I used the Dahlia mostly with my Pietus Maximus and enjoyed that pairing immensely :)

The topping would be better with the Fiio … this one doesn’t have a line in for using other DACs. Outside of the topping Schiit headphone amps would be a good option with the Fiio R2R as well… honestly lots of cool amp options with that Fiio. Just depends on budget :)

I haven’t heard the ZD3… looks like a cool DAC though :)

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That would be cool!

I am pretty sure it’s variable, but will have to test it out… currently away from home so will try to test when home (no promises… ADHD is very real for me ha)

​@@TylersEclectichaha!!!!! Thank you!!!!!

Any update? ​@@TylersEclectic

@ it does appear to be variable based on trying it lol though, it isn’t my favorite preamplifier…but, that could be due to pairing with a headphone amp (Nitsch Pietus Maximus) … I couldn’t find a output balance between the two that gave me the now we jamming vibe… but maybe with speaker setup it would pair better

You’re a good friend! I hope they like it too!

I haven’t had time with the e3 … but definitely love gaming and watching movies and what not with my Bokeh’s… JV did a video about the opens comparing them more directly with the e3 I think 🤔

@ how did u get that color on those headphones 🎧 did u tell them u want the color like that amazing color if I get them I want that same color bro they look so cool like that

@ I didn’t ask, but I’m sure if you ask ZMF if they have similar colors they will see about getting you a similar one maybe?

@ you have the best color ever, bro and did u play call of duty with them yet if so how do they sound while gaming?

@ I played a bunch of cod, with them! They did great for me! But I’m not a dedicated cod player… imaging and location of players seemed spot on generally… I can do a video specifically on gaming… haven’t done one in a long time… might be due

Spring 3 is with my Kef speaker setup currently :) I try and change things up every couple months 😅

I think so!

Yes, you will need a balanced DAC or one with XLR or 4.4mm outputs

I’m not positive but I believe it’s the peerless tymphany driver … Nick does a build series on KZbin you can find here: hififorall.com/products/hfa-dahlia-headphone

Any 4.4mm dongle DAC under $100 for budget use case… just get a 4.4mm to 4.4mm Schiit modius balanced for a step up If you like to EQ an RME ADI DAC is a beast For a similar price point and pretty much endgame for most people the Cyan 2 DAC These are just a few recommendations and more of a good jump off for researching more DACs Look for either XLR out or 4.4mm out and get the corresponding cables to hook up the gear :) Now I kinda want to try a full 4.4mm system 🤔 you could do the iFi gryphon with 4.4mm out as well and have a more portable solution… or any of the iFi with with 4.4mm outs … so many options

@@TylersEclectic Im interesting in the more portable option you mention

Was looking at the Muse HiFi M5 ultra but has a built in tube would that interfere with each other.

@ look up 4.4mm dongle DACs then set appropriate budget… also you could look at DAPs that have 4.4mm out as an alternative.

@@Amariths1 it shouldn’t… I have a tube preamp feeding a tube amp… just adds more flavor… but it potentially could be too much tube sound… but seeing as how most of these are tube hybrids you should be good

Atriums are *insert odd lady saying “perrrrrrrrrfeeeeccctt!” While staring deep into camera here* 😆

@@TylersEclectic haha 😂 I love that odd lady with hypnotic eyes, shes crazy when you crank it up

Nice! Let me know what you think

@ I heard the Gremlin at SoCal and really liked it paired with the Apos x Audio-Technica ATH-R70x Refine Headphone, which I also ordered.

@ oh! Let me know what you think of those headphones! I missed them at CanJam

@ certainly and to add to the fun, I ordered a pair of Bokeh Open from Zach and Bevin

Really good dynamics and above average bass… but for more bass and dynamics I’d go with a Fostex 900mkii or denon 7200…

@@TylersEclectic Thanks! I already own the TH900MK2 haha I'm always on the lookout though... always chasing the dragon

@ the audio dragon 🐉 is a cheeky bastard! Always getting in our ears whispering sweet nothings lol 😆

It's a great place to start!

I can 💯 say it will! I used it with my RME before switching it to my TT2… great combo with the RME!

@@TylersEclectic Ordered, appreciate it Tyler!

@ 🙌💜 I am going to order one too after I send this back!

@@TylersEclectic I'm going to work on making a custom case for it, maybe even selling them in a flat pack envelope. Should be a fun project!

@ would love to see what you come up with!

The answer is almost ALWAYS - bottlehead crack.

Bottlehead Crack is a beast… and fun to build without the speedball then add the speedball down the road :) definitely one of the most pure tube sounds out there! With tons of modding/upgrade options if you are into that and decent with soldering and playing with electricity ⚡️ But, I’d have to say the ampsandsound Kenzie is also just a beautiful sounding headphone amp! Mogwai also is a beast and sounds amazing. I’m a bit of a ampsandsound fan… but they are very pricey. This little gremlin reminds me of my favorite tube hybrid amp which is the nigh impossible to get ECP T4… probably why I like the gremlin so much.

@@TylersEclectic This is helpful, thanks!👍🏻

@@Hey_Burnsyhaven’t heard the crack but Darkvoice is also very tubey and responds well to rolling. You can make it as bright or gooey as you like trying out different tubes.

… and… the suspense is killing me!

@@TylersEclectic Great door stop 🙂

The pronunciation war continues…

I’m not okay? …….🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️😉🤣

The Michael Scott confidence at the end is just 🤌 Hopefully I never have to try to say those names.

I own the Stellia, and like it the best of the Focal lineup… I haven’t done a side by side comparison of the two, but I can say I use the bokeh more … and I think it is an easy recommendation as a alternative or companion headphones to the Stellia when wanting a different experience from your music. Off the top of my head, Stellia is faster in performance (transients, percussion etc) Bokeh is warmer and more versatile across genres. Hope that helps :)

In that case, I think I’m going to buy the Bokeh! Thanks Tyler. Much appreciated.

😅 def need to get better at not moving around so much while holding the camera for these heh

Oh! How are you liking the element? I had one of the first versions and loved it! Really want to get another one… love the form factor and that volume pot is next level good! Atrium closed is beyond endgame lol! The Bokeh is right there and a good jump in point for ZMF for half the price :) but, can’t fault you for wanting the Atrium Closed =)

@ It's pretty awesome. It's a significant upgrade over my "gaming" Schiit Hel I've had for a couple of years. I've been waiting for a warmer sounding all in one unit that has plenty of power with good customer service, so I jumped right on this day 1. It took my decent sounding Focal Azurys to the next level - I was actually a bit shocked how much of a difference it made. Still haven't figured out their new EQ app yet. I replied to your comment on Joshua Valour's Boken vid about just this. Although I'm tempted by the Bokeh, I'd rather wait for what I really want. I'd definitely be settling if I went that route instead of saving for the Atrium Closed.

@ Josh is a homie =) one of my favorite people… I chat with him regularly

🙌👾 Yessss!! I love how versatile they are, going from gaming to audio, then watching videos… great set of headphones

You too! Have an awesome Turkey Day!

Bass is the way!

🙌 thoughts so far?

@ so far with just a few hours of listening, these headphones are worth the purchase price. Nick and Ann have done a wonderful job developing the headphones. A well balanced sounding headphone imho

Yeah! I’ve been super addicted to cyberpunk 2077… but I need to get back into some Destiny 2, still need to beat that new dungeon… and try the new prison game mechanic… I’ll jump on the discord an say hi and we should coordinate a time to play! My buddy printed and painted the Deadpool bust… it’s next level good!

@TylersEclectic i haven't touched Destiny 2 in months as well. Funny enough, I have been on cyberpunk a bit as well. But mostly doing woodworking projects and renovations. I also have that deadpool model next to me and some pretty sick deadpool and wolverine sculpts on my print list when I find the time. I'll send you some pics of my projects on Discord.

Those are so fun! Hmm 🤔 I should go back and grab the playlists from Beef and share them…

My music is all over the place lol 😆 it’s why I went with “eclectic” … but, I can put some playlists together 🤔 maybe just make my “liked” playlists on Spotify available to everyone… I use Spotify for music discovery and Qobuz for proper listening (outside the flac and vinyl)

It’s so dang good! I’m super impressed by it!

Thanks Martin! 🫶💜

Yeah! That’s a good idea! I have a ton of hobbies and collections ha! Lots of camera gear… comics, videogames and action figures and legos… my room is a smaller bedroom my wife allows me to semi decorate and have 😅 … I’m sure I could optimize it… hmm 🤔 maybe I’ll do another quick vlog doing a tour of my chaos… maybe tomorrow…