This was also my second time ordering from them. First order was received timely with no problems. I don't understand why canceling my second order has been such a hassle.

Jerome, great talking with you. Glad we could work out the misunderstanding! Truly appreciate you reaching out and clarifying what happened with my team so that we can continue to improve and get better at taking care of our community.

@matsonian2 Chris never indicated that I could use that 150.00 towards another order.

Haven't heard back from you today.

Actually, while it would have (this can fit up to 40) - this particular product line has been discontinued. We are now producing a body mounted Tire Carrier... metalcloak.com/jk-wrangler-tub-mount-tire-carrier.html

Travel is relative to the shocks you are running... if you are running 6Paks, then, yes, the 15" travel of the 6Paks would be your limit. If you are running RockSport Reds, for example, then you have 11" of available travel. If you choose another brand shock, those will have different limitations.

Thank you!

Yes, that in one of the origin stories for the name... and makes perfect sense... however it became something else when shoppers were getting trampled in stores.

Right...

Thank you!

Appreciate the feedback. Have not heard that from other customers. Did you call us directly or use the forum where you downloaded the instructions to let us know what specifically was wrong in the full color instructions?

In most cases, if you have adjustable control arms in the front, you do not need the Pro'Lignment bracket (exception is a 5.5" lift where even with adjustable control arms, your geometry needs correction) They are meant primarily for those who are going to use stock control arms in the front. Because of that purpose, unlike the DB3 in the rear, they are not built for rock-crawling abuse and can get easily damaged landing against a boulder.

@@metalcloak Thank you Metal Cloak friends! That makes sense. I will give you a call about the problem I'm trying to solve then! Appreciate the response and hopefully it helps some other people. I had assumed it was more that you'd lose some ground clearance. Glad I asked!

They are not intended to be pressed out and reused. The upper may come out okay but with the contoured top of the lower would be damaged. However, if you needed to, you could just purchase a replacement housing.

@metalcloak ok thanks for the reply man

Thank you... what year/model is your rig?

@@metalcloak it is a 2022 JL392

Couple ways to do that two tone... one is to order them with our Powdercoat, then prep and paint the panel white. That gives you the best overall look.

Yep, like it says a :13 - October 12, 13 & 14.

And make a table in the inside swing left and have the tail gate swing right overland goodness lol

Unfortunately no. The flip steps bolt on to our Overland Rockers. The OEM rockers do not have mounting locations.

Yes, Long Arm are significantly longer then Short Arm (aka mid arm) kits. The Game-Changer is considered a Short Arm kit. With our technology our Short Arm kits gets more flex and better performance than many aftermarket Long Arm kits.

@@metalcloak awesome thanks !!

Awesome! Thank you!

That depend on a lot of factors... what bumpers do you have? Do you have a winch? What size tire are you running for a spare? Are you even running a spare? Every lift on every rig is different depending on how that rig is set up.

Keep an eye out... and make sure you are on our email list.

Working on it. ;-)

Well listen bud... lol... point taken, we understand your point. But just as many people don't understand "X number of inches of travel" - we do believe a CTI flex is a better overall visual representation of what that is and we get lots of positive response using that measurement.

@@metalcloak there are two sides to the coin here. For one, the area in question is fender clearance, not travel. It would be beneficial to say “our fenders provide another 2 inches of clearance over the stock fenders when used in conjunction with our metalcloak lift.” That’s something the consumer can visually see. A future customer can go out to their car in the garage and think damn if I had another inch or two of clearance I wouldn’t be rubbing on my fenders all the time. Personally, CTI machines are like dynos for cars. There are 3 different people out there. People who don’t care about horsepower numbers, people who strive to make the most horsepower but it’s useless on the street, and people who actually tune for most efficient power. The Jeep world is one and the same. 90% of people don’t care about numbers, 7% want the most flex they can get and don’t care about anything else, and 3% who tune for the best of both worlds. The CTI numbers only apply to those 10% out there.

@@Sw00per_actual it’s basically all the same swooper, I see you on the forums hit me up if you need help. I was just in Moab 2 weeks ago

Give our team a call... they are happy to spend as much time as needed to help you design your build. 916-631-8071

Going through that some right now. Buy once, cry once. Just don't let it become "Buy once, cry forever."

Not everyone wants to go 40s and tons right away. Even guys with 40s and tons probably never thought they would get to that point. So you can’t just go straight to the top if you don’t know what your top is.

@@camaroboi13 I was told the first time to go straight to tons and didn't listen, so I had to learn my lesson the expensive way. Now I just go straight to tons on my builds.

@@wvjeepguy8178 I would never listen to that advice personally, and I would never replace my axles or have a use for 40” tires. To each their own.

Actually CTI was designed specifically around that concept. When it was first developed, we had just released our JK Suspension with 6Pak Shocks... the first shock that was designed around a 50/50 ratio... 50% droop and 50% compression... which was why our 3.5" Game-Changer Suspension had more travel and a higher CTI score than any other suspension in the industry... because it was a combination of down-travel and up-travel... It showed the true articulation that you see on the trail... axles twisted... tires stuffed... coils fully stretched... all at once.

@@metalcloak Don't get me wrong I like the concept a lot. I think it eliminates the concept of the back axle doing all the flexing. But my real problem is those guys that have leaf springs and shackles that are like double and just fold out and let one tire drop like crazy without stuffing the other tire. Either way I like it, I'm just pointing out what in my opinion is a way to cheat and get a good rti score.

@@davidcraft4909 There are definite ways to cheat on RTI. When we came out with our suspension, we drove right up every RTI ramp we had. That's why CTI. Because it does BOTH the front and rear at the same time and at the same rate until one of the other tires come off... it takes the COMPLETE suspension into account... it does not allow cheating in that way. If you have a big droop front but your rear is all bound up, you will not get a good score.

No Rivet Nuts on the Front Overland Fenders, but you will need a 3/8" for the Rear Overland Fenders.

@@metalcloak Thank you. I noticed in the video that a tool was supposed to come with the fenders. Mine did not come with one. I had to go buy one.

@@HoldMyBeerJeeping It is a simple bolt with a special machined nut and star washer. It was not in the kit?

@@metalcloak that’s correct. Not there. Just the bolts washers and nuts.

Thank you!

LOL, the name of the fenders are "Overland" --- metalcloak.com/overland-tube-fenders-jl-wrangler-front.html