As always Jay, you talk TOO MUCH! Give Steve a chance to talk!

Hey guys, I'd love it if you guys do a video (or several) on the various financial and contractual implications of the announced MW teams joining the Pac. Will the PAC only pay the poaching penalties to the MW and not assist the indiviudal schools' exit fees? Will each of the departing MW schools truly be writing the $18M checks to the MW? Do the departing 4 have any further voting rights within the MW (and if they keep their voting rights, can those 4 coherce 5 more to vote for disbanding the conference)? Does WSU & OSU have weighted voting rights by adding the 4 (as in do the 6 have equal say in all decisions going forward OR does WSU/OSU have half the voting rights and the 4 have the other half)? Did each of the 4 send resignation letters to the MW pursuant to MW bylaws? Will any of the 4 incoming Pac schools need to add (or drop) any sports? I presume each of the incoming 4 must drop 2 non-conference games in 2025 so WSU & OSU can fill most of their current FB schedule openings in 2025... So many angles to this.. Interesting times for sure. Any coverage on as many of these topics you guys choose to tackle would be appreciated. Go Rams!

SamHouston just moved up to FBS-G5 last year I think we are Happy in CUSA. Maybe UTSA would be a possibility I think

This guy likes all the BIG favorites. A real Einstein.

Jay, you talk WAY TOO MUCH! A 50/50 mix would be better as opposed to 95/5!

Yes, let's pretend that USF does not exist. Silly move on your part.

Don’t confuse the 99 year agreement with the GOR. it’s a 99 year agreement to stay together. Basically all that means is there’s an exit fee which isn’t connected to the GOR. But not as strong as a GOR (which means the schools basically leave without their media rights). Big 12 also has a media rights GOR, but obviously much shorter until 2031

If the ACC loses 4 or 5 teams then merge with the Pac 12 and have coastal divisions.

What’s the PAC 12’s TV contract? The AAC Teams would have to pay exit fees and increased travel expenses.

UNLV, UTSA, Memphis, Tulane, Texas State….and USF! They’d be stupid not to go after USF. Strong academics (AAU school), strong athletics, school has resources, and in a top media market in Tampa. Make it work PAC 12!! Whatever you need to do!!

In order to make JETLAG less hellish, it's going to be a new *Pac-10* with *Texas-San Antonio, Rice* (North Texas isn't much better at football, and don't even get me started on Texas State's history), *Memphis* and *Tulane.* Western pod: *Washington State, Fresno State, Oregon State, San Diego State* and *Boise State* Eastern pod: *Colorado State, Texas-San Antonio, Tulane, Rice* and *Memphis.* The key here is that you play everybody in your pod once or twice depending on the sport. You also cut down on the number of conference games in order to have more non-conference games in your region. Something like this: Football=7 conference games. Basketball=14 conference games (one team from the other pod would be played twice per season on rotation). Baseball=You play everyone in a three game stand (either at their place, or yours depending on the year) against everyone (sans Boise State and Colorado State who don't sponsor America's Pastime) but your biggest rival. You play that team six times in a three game home-and-home stand each. Obviously, those pairings are, *Oregon State vs. Washington State, Fresno State vs. San Diego State, Rice vs. Texas-San Antonio* and *Memphis vs. Tulane.* Teams also have their games against the other pod first before fighting those in their pod to cut down on travel. Ice Hockey=...oh, wait... I'm sure you get the idea. Do this correctly, and the Pac will be fine. Now they need to get the piece of turd networks to overpay them like the others...

North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, Montana.

My broncos play Portland which isn't a huge game. But it's still a home game hoping for a good one. I think our toughest games are Oregon state and Washington State. Maybe UNLV if we play them in the championship

As a San Jose St fan, and Wyoming Alumnus, hard no on Weber, Tarlton and Northern Arizona. Don’t care much for Sac St, but it takes away from what Fresno tries to claim is their market. New Mexico St and UTEP are terrible at pretty much everything, but they are easy wins for San Jose and Wyoming every season.

What if… The PAC and Mt West are working together. When the PAC implosion first started, these conferences floated a relegation idea. Let’s say they’re looking at 3 conferences in a league. PAC adds North TX, Rice, Tulsa, UTSA, Memphis, Tulane. MWC adds Sam Houston, UTEP, NMSU, TX State Big Sky stays as is 3, 12 team conferences to form a league This league would include every FBS G6 team West of the Mississippi. MWC Champ moves to PAC. Big Sky champ moves to MWC. Lowest 2 from PAC and lowest 2 from MWC play, loser moves down. Hold a championship/relegation weekend where all games are televised and played in Vegas. 8 game conference schedule, 2 non-conference have to be against a team from each of the other conferences in the league. Every team has a protected rival that will be played each year regardless of if they’ve been relegated to a different conference. Other 2 games are of the team’s choosing out of conference. Pros: The PAC will always be competitive for not only that 5th spot, but possibly an opening round bye in the playoffs every year, especially if the ACC gets watered down. With the dismantling of the AAC that this would cause, it wouldn’t be far fetched that the MWC champ could even make it in as an additional conference champ because the competition is going to improve the programs. It will give FCS programs a chance to move up and compete in the FBS. Another pro is $. How much would a championship weekend be worth to the media? For schools struggling to get media value, this would help them get closer to the big schools out there. Cons: Media valuations through relegation. But is it possible that the same media companies give a bid for the whole league so they’re not losing a market they want if they move up or down? These would still be considered different conferences with a legally binding agreement with each other for the relegation, so when a team moves up or down, their payment will change. But, if the same media is controlling all of them it won’t matter to that media company. Another con is moving down. Would an OSU or WSU really sign an agreement where they could be at an FCS level? I don’t see this as a major problem for those schools. I could see them having a bad stretch and ending up in the middle tier MWC temporarily. But, it’s still FBS and I don’t see those programs faltering so badly they would be relegated to the FCS. For them, it’s risk vs reward, and the reward would be usually being a top dog in a highly competitive conference that would almost be guaranteed a playoff spot each year. This would be more of a problem for the UNM, NMSU, UH, Nevada type schools, I don’t know that they would want to sign onto something where they are potentially relegated into a good FCS league they may not get out of. Perfect name for the league: The Big Mountain Pac (Big Sky, MWC, PAC 12)

As. Tulane fan for 47 years I don't see Tulane leaving the AAC unless the PAC12 can generate more dollars from a media deal than the AAC has OR by some miracle Cal and Stanford return with the possibility of the PAC being considered as a P5 again. Tulane pretends to support athletics but athletics does not run that school

I personally think that the Pac-12 purposefully left 8 school in the MW so they could survive as a league and not have to scramble (a sort of gentleman's agreement). HOWEVER, I think the plan is to try and create an Eastern Pod of schools in the Central and Eastern time zones. I'm thinking they try and court Tulane, Memphis, UTSA, and Rice. I also think that Gonzaga, GCU and St. Mary's will be involved in some way for Basketball.

The MWC/PAC merger was never going to happen. The PAC doesn’t want Hawaii, Nevada, SJSU, Utah State, and Wyoming. Air Force, New Mexico, and/or UNLV perhaps. It was just media talk. Texas State is not going to the PAC, the MWC perhaps. But they aren’t even close to being near the level of competition, media value, and prestige as even a school like UTSA.

I think tulane and memphis wont get an acc invite unless the big boys leave. To their biggest teams its a dilution of revenue

Look at either PVAMU or Abilene Christian over Tarleton

Regardless of how little of a chance there may be, the priority must be to pursue Cal and Stanford. Then others as plan B.

If all indications point to the ACC staying in tact, then why wait until January to add other schools?

What about the mountain West and pac-12 robbing the big West conference

Swing for the fences and invite Notre Dame, University of Connecticut and Gonzaga. I also like Saint Mary’s. I heard University of Connecticut wants a conference that will invite there basketball and football. Teams from Texas make sense too.

Either the MWC or the PAC-12 should bring up Simon Fraser University (SFU) from DII and restart their football program. Team plays in BC Stadium and would be the only Canadian D1 school. They could market themselves as Canada’s team and could take advantage of Vancouver and the Canadian media markets. This could even lead to more Canadian universities to make the jump to the NCAA. Pipe dream, I know. It would be fun to watch the SFU Red Leafs take on a role never seen at the FBS or FCS levels.

Geez Spartans fans need to be humbled. I got them only winning 2 more games this year. Definitely some incoming loses to Washington, CSU, Fresno, Boise, UNLV, and maybe even Stanford.

The next two will likely be Nevada and UNLV. Not happy about that but it makes the most sense.

Memphis, tulane, utsa and Texas state will be the adds

Why put any MTN West team in consideration except UNLV. That narrative is constantly perpetuated. You guys are saying the same things ESPN is saying. Which equates to the new PAC conference taking step forward just to go back two more steps......smfh 🤦

Now that the PAC is off life support it’s a good reminder to note, both WAZZU and The Beavs, come from The Conference of Champions, and are hard wired with Power Conference mentality and mindset. There is no way, as the PAC 2 showed to all the naysaying sports talking heads, that we were ever going settle for the consolation uncoveted door prize as The Cupcake Conference of Champions. Membership next phase PAC invitations will go to candidates with a winners, no-holds-barred, in your face mentality with the pedigree and loaded toolbox to make the PAC, not only better, but also return the PAC to Power Conference status.

I think UNLV, UTSA, then Tulane and Memphis are the best adds and make the PAC the best G5(6) conference. I do not see where Rice adds anything. There are other Texas public schools that would be better adds. The PAC should stick to no more than 10 until the ACC is resolved by 2030.

PAC is clearly building the dominate 5th best conference and building separation between themselves and AAC, MWC and Sun Belt. I am calling my shot that Tulane and Memphis and either Rice or UTSA will be PAC members within the next 30 days. UNLV also.

Tulane, Memphis, UNLV all are probably 90% already packed and ready for the PAC.

The comment of Tulane and Rice comment of being similar is like saying Stanford and Fresno are tight. Tulane and Memphis has a lot in common and are the package deal if they accept the deal to Pac12.

I think the UNLV are interested, but they are not interested in paying that exit fee.

Tulane, Rice, Tulsa & UTSA are my 4 odds on favorites; UNLV “might” be #11 if other schools fall through plus they’ll likely have to jettison Nevada as well. I personally don’t think that Memphis will be invited because they’re too far east and the ACC might need some more schools to join their conference down the road. California & Stanford will have NO choice to go back once the purging of the ACC schools courtesy of the Big 12 (in 2030!)

I understand why schools like Memphis, Tulane, USF are being looked at for their brand power. However, I'm having a very hard time justifying these additions to the PAC-12 just because of their brand power. Travel-wise, it will be a nightmare for the eastern most schools. Memphis and Tulane are stretching it. USF makes absolutely no sense. One would think the PAC would set up shop in the state of Texas and get any combination of Texas schools to round out the conference. That seems logical.

PAC can't afford more MWC buyout. ACC won't change. Go for any of the next 3: Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, No Tex, Texas St, Rice, Tulsa. Start at top and stop when 3 commit.

The MWC would be crazy not to take at least NDSU they are the top of the FCS especially brand wise and competition wise.

I think they shouldn't take any schools east of the Mississippi River keep the Pacific Coast Confrence just that and keep it manageable 10-12 Schools get into Texas and California for recruiting and it will be a surprisingly good Conference.

Sacramento State good market but do they try to put good football teams on the field every year if not then who cares how big their media market is

Fresno State is national champions in softball and baseball. Their football team is always good. Memphis and Tulane would be nice additions.

Why do shows like this keep mentioning former PAC 12 members as possible candidates? They were just in the conference like 3 months ago. The four corner schools and CalStan could have stayed and help rebuild the PAC but they didn't. Why would they consider coming back to join a conference with teams they don't consider as their peers? They wouldn't consider it so can we stop bringing their names up as part of PAC 12 current expansion???? Geez........

If P12 wants to expand its footprint and gain a foothold in a major 📺 market, there’s NIU just 45 m west of Chicago. Since 2010 NIU has beaten Minny, Fresno, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, NW, Notre Dame, Boston College, Ga Tech & next NC St. Has access to Soldier Field.

I am sure a Texas school ( UTSA or Texas St ( but not both) will end up in the PAC. As for other schools? If there is a settlement and Clemson & FSU remain in the ACC past 2027, then Tulane and USF become more likely. Other possibilities ? UNLV, AFA, Memphis & North Texas

Memphis State sounds better in hindsight now, huh?

Utah signed a grant of rights with the Big 12 until 2031. They supposedly didn't sign the 99 year "grant if rights" (the extended exit fee) though that likely has changed. Either way, the Big 12 wouldn't have extended an invite if they had not signed a grant of rights.

The agreement between the PAC and the Mountain west means that PAC will wait on the Mw to expand before announcing any further MW schools joining the new PAC. Football only membership for Air Force and Hawaii makes some sense because each has unique media value in football but their Olympics are terrible

I, live in Las Vegas and UNLV was never offered a Pac 12 invite (not yet). I am hearing Memphis and Tulane are locks, to join the Pac 12. UNLV, is the 9th team to join and you guys totally left off USF from the AAC. I could see the Pac 12, going to 10 teams. Instead, of the 9 teams promised.

I thought Memphis and South Florida would wait for ACC or Big 12. Now it looks like ACC not breaking up until 2030s when B1G Ten & SEC contracts are up for renewal. So Memphis & possibly South Florida in play. Tulane & Rice are like minded academic schools and could be helpful in 2030s. Best bets appear to be UTSA, Tulane, Rice, Memphis, Texas St., and North Texas.