Getting all the parts ready. Need to know what plug (black and orange) you are using? Also what is the operating voltage of the ESC? Curious if they went with 12v or 18v? Looks like the motor can handle up to 20v @ 32amps. Probably going to drop a couple of the Dakota Digital 10amp batteries unless Texas is using 18v. In that case I may try to use Makita batteries.
@stevehogan882923 күн бұрын
oar?
@ADKMuskyFoolonFly63Ай бұрын
appreciate the review. You have to stop and wonder when there are very few reviews on a product out for a few years and most of the reviews are from the company and very few customers. Good products get numerous KZbin reviews by customers. There is obviously a problem here with TPP.
@celsoalvaradorodriguez5717Ай бұрын
What kind of cable is that thank you
@buildingcodepro9237Ай бұрын
@@celsoalvaradorodriguez5717 i just liked for one on Amazon that had the right number of wires and rated for boat use
@ruicaeiro5204Ай бұрын
For what I have seen from the Videos of the Texas Power Paddle "Company"... it´s just 1 KID
@JohnLapenta3 ай бұрын
Where can I get the connector that plugs into the power port on the battery. I want to buy a T200 from Blue Robotics and connect to my existing TPP battery
@hdspringer983 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, I found it very helpful. In fact, I was convinced that I was going to buy an OT PDL120 after watching this because of all the fantastic points you made in favor of the OT. I ended up doing a kayak fishing charter on the ocean in Newport, RI. The kayak supplied was a 2022 Hobie Outback and I found it to be incredibly easy to navigate, supremely stable in washer machine conditions, so easy to propel and the seat without a cushion to be so very comfortable. I spent 5 hours in it landing fish and pedaling around and was not tired or feeling any ill effects from the seat. I was shocked and highly impressed. All that said I still was thinking the OT was for me because I expected it to be similar to the Hobie. So I went to a dealer who sells Hobie and OT so I could demo the OT. What I found was the OT took significantly more effort to propel, was slower and the bar in the back of the seat was just awful not matter how I adjusted. I was simply uncomfortable and my legs where not liking the bike motion no matter where I set the seat. After 20 minutes I wanted off the OT. So I bought the Hobie. All your points good/bad on the OT are correct and well stated. Same with the Hobie points good/bad. In the end, either yak is a winner depending on each person and my lesson learned was try before you buy because until you do it's impossible to know for sure. Thanks for putting the time in!
@Rialean3 ай бұрын
I just bought my first kayak last weekend, I also demoed the OT and found it very hard to peddle compared to the outback. I ended up buying the Outback
@robertpapps36184 ай бұрын
Wow!
@thomashayes39604 ай бұрын
I have had a bixpy motor for 4 years . Their service department is great. My first motor went out after two years l sent to them and they replaced it with a new J2 motor for 1 hundred and 29 dollars. Bixpy is a great company said in most cases they can repair them at a reasonable cost. I highly recommend them ,they even sent me shipping labels to send it to them.
@mikec81234 ай бұрын
Anyone have a link for a speed controller?
@BottomLineBassin24 ай бұрын
any cracks in the Hobie yet??
@buildingcodepro92374 ай бұрын
No cracks, but I don't use a scupper cart which I think is where most cracks appear. I use a standard kayak cart or my trailer, eliminating that stress on the hull.
@PeterRanieriII4 ай бұрын
your dealer is 100% correct. The exact thing just happened to me. I stupidly tightened the back idler cable because the drums (elephant ears) were very loose but then it pulled up that back sprocket and the bearings were exposed. What happens is that idler cable stretches over time and instead of tightening it you should replace instead.
@RonMTube4 ай бұрын
Thanks to your videos, I just built my own "TPP" using parts from BlueRobotics but Id like to add a kill switch. Do you have a link? Thx
@buildingcodepro92374 ай бұрын
I'd REALLY love to see your build! Can you share a video? As for the kill switch, it was an Amazon purchase.
@moemartin66525 ай бұрын
I’m glad, I came across this. I just purchased it and cost me almost $1700. I might have to return it right away. I was thinking it is American built motor.
@frqntplatypus79685 ай бұрын
Paying a $1000 more for rod holders and mounts is crazy. The 5yr drive warranty alone is worth it.
@buildingcodepro92375 ай бұрын
Agreed. Something else I noticed... EVERY time I go out in the Outback, I come home with water in the hull. Not a lot, but maybe half to one gallon or so. That's "common" in the outback, while the Old Town is bone dry. So far it hasn't been a real problem, but considering my batteries and the occasional wilderness trip with gear in the hull, it's another tick in the box for an Outback win.
@RonMTube5 ай бұрын
Can't fault TPP for needing to make a profit as they have to cover a lot of cost for engineering, product research, testing, support, warranty, etc. That said, I thank you for this discovery. I plan to build a clone of the TPP system from scratch.
@mrmaninblackwebbs92315 ай бұрын
Just pick up yak attacks rail part for your old town , and pick up hobies circle hole cover to access your back hatch area to screw and mount the rails with nuts and screws! Just a thought. It’s definitely possible to take your old town out crabbing withe traps to mount down.
@jkaas655 ай бұрын
With the location of the transducer on the Old Town does side imaging work. I know that is one of the reasons for the Hobie Transducer placement to allow it to be below the hull so SI can work.
@buildingcodepro92375 ай бұрын
No problem.
@JohnLapenta6 ай бұрын
I've been through 3 rotors, all have gotten corroded and the motor froze. I have been able to sand down the corrosion and seems to work. I also am going to purpose a rotor from Blue Robotics. Its 1/3 of the price TPP want me to pay
@jrosel19856 ай бұрын
You could’ve just bought the one that’s meant for the transducer plate for your outback 🤓 they didn’t do anything wrong, you just ordered the wrong version lmao
@buildingcodepro92376 ай бұрын
There would be zero difference in performance, and even less of a chance of clearing an obstruction. Also, you lose the transducer location.
@hallierkevin6 ай бұрын
Merci pour la comparaison exhaustive et argumenté. Je cherchais une alternative au Outback et par rapport à ma future utilisation le Old Town me paraît être un bon challenger !
@buildingcodepro92376 ай бұрын
Oui.c'est vrais
@nugdam87586 ай бұрын
A tip for getting the seat on easily is silicone spray on the part that clamps on. Makes it super super easy
@buffdoc466 ай бұрын
The Center Pin will wear out and bearings will if its too loose. Also the stock grease is not very good. Get really good Marine grease and redo the main pin, roller and the two pins by the chain. It will run much smoother. Wash with fresh water with good pressure to get rid of sand and debris.
@larrydwarf64996 ай бұрын
I have 3 TPP gen1's they all came with a cut off switch and they were one of the first ones sold. not sure how yours isn't there. But I do want to thank you for the blue robotics info it has really helped as TPP prices are crazy. I got a new unit for $200 and installing it now. The old motors it looks like the rotor is the problem the coating on the inside is missing in spots and the magnets start to rust then seize up the unit. I'll be buying a new rotor to see if I can repair this one. I have always rinsed and used the right lube after each use, but I can see now that isn't enough. My suggestion now is a 5 gallon bucket of fresh water and let the motor run slowly to completely flush the system then drain a lube after each use. after finding the t200 info I found on thingiverse a 3d print for both the prop and the weed guard trying those as I type but you have to look it up t200 not TPP I'm still looking for the other items if anyone has info on the controller, cable ends, or motor mounts
@racerxny13807 ай бұрын
Could I use a 12v 60ah Lifepo battery?
@johnbrown58707 ай бұрын
Does anyone know why I keep shearing off my chain cables? Is there some tension or rotational problem I am doing when I replace them?
@EvenaGirlCanDoIt7 ай бұрын
I have Lynx. Do you think the little yellow motor is better than the remora? Is the yellow one faster
@EvenaGirlCanDoIt7 ай бұрын
How has your new yellow weedless motor been doing? Does it get weeds in it?
@buildingcodepro92377 ай бұрын
It's certainly better than the thruster. The new system is an improvement, but I still had to hack it... Like adding a kill switch to it. Also, this is NOT for salt conditions.
@EvenaGirlCanDoIt7 ай бұрын
@@buildingcodepro9237 can you possibly make a video on how to add a kill switch?
@fishinbite7 ай бұрын
Great comparison video! It would be great to see the setup / mods on the Revo kayak.
@teamcq92047 ай бұрын
Great video. I wouldn’t spend a dime on this product especially at over $1500 bucks. They’re CRAZY
@bounthieniemoumy69608 ай бұрын
What are the end connections called that plug into the battery? I’m needing to order one of those
@kcd8458 ай бұрын
The Old Town is heavier…
@buildingcodepro92378 ай бұрын
It is, but not with the drive removed. And either way, the old town is easier to maneuver on the ground without damage where the hobie rudder is extremely vulnerable. Also the little rope on the hobie handle wears out. I think the ground handling definitely goes to the old town, hands down. Remember, I own and use both, on the same vehicle and the exact same locations and conditions, both ramps and long foot paths on kayak carts.
@kcd8458 ай бұрын
My reply is true and correct, the Old Town is heavier. I don’t know the reason for the rest of your reply
@miamiwax55048 ай бұрын
having to pull a chain in order to reverse is pretty silly especially if u are fighting a fish or something
@EvenaGirlCanDoIt8 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for the speed controller?
@EvenaGirlCanDoIt8 ай бұрын
Do you think I can add that small yellow motor to the rudder on my Lynx or is it too heavy? Also where would I get the speed knob?
@EvenaGirlCanDoIt8 ай бұрын
Well I was going to bite the bullet and buy 2 remora’s for my 2 Lynx but sounds like I’m better off taking my 18v drill and adding a drill propeller. 😂
@buildingcodepro92376 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@FIZANJET8 ай бұрын
Too expensive for that kind build..better newportvessel more powerful..
@buildingcodepro92378 ай бұрын
Agreed. It is discreet though, which may get one by any restrictions. Also, it being on the rudder means the steering is easy and very responsive. I don't know about the newport
@pinecone50588 ай бұрын
What a cry baby, boo hoo, you should buy a 60,000 boat
@JSAVGA9 ай бұрын
Thank you for making us aware of options. Their "Blue Boat" uses two of these motors so I'm curious what only one will do on a kayak.
@buildingcodepro92378 ай бұрын
About 3.5 to 4 mph on the hobie outback
@nicolalugo38009 ай бұрын
Epic thanks. I’m looking to beach launch a kayak and it seems the old town is a better option. Simpler and lighter. Better handles.
@jjz487410 ай бұрын
Are you Juan? I thought that was Gus's PDL😊
@buildingcodepro923710 ай бұрын
I own one also
@jamnjoe1910 ай бұрын
How did that crack form on the back of that old town?
@buildingcodepro923710 ай бұрын
What crack?
@Jonnysains10 ай бұрын
whats the speed of this gen 3
@buildingcodepro923710 ай бұрын
Too many factors determine speed, like type of kayak, current etc. It's about as fast as using the pedals. A little faster than trolling speed
@Jonnysains10 ай бұрын
awesome thanks for responding, i am looking at the blue robotics stuff and realized i can just buy the modified rudder from tpp for $99 and the rest i can build from the bluerobotics website, is there anything else i would need from tpp besides the ridder mod?
@FIZANJET8 ай бұрын
I dont think it can do as fast as bigger throlling motor like newport vessel..now i m using nk300..it is more fun..everything there in term of speed
@buildingcodepro92378 ай бұрын
About 3 to 4 mph tops
@the45er11 ай бұрын
The ONLY advantage I see in the Hobie is the drive when you’re in weeds and since I don’t fish much in weeds it’s irrelevant. And $30 worth of rails you can put them everywhere on the Old Town
@trinacria195611 ай бұрын
Not questioning you but my own experience was better. Mine came with a red kill switch with coiled cable, don't know why yours doesn't. Sorry you had bad experience .I had no trouble getting answer within a day from either the owner or customer service. Have had one for 2 years on my Outback use it in Texas marsh twice week. No problems. Every few months you gotta take appart and clean motor but do maintenance on my outboard boat too. Company states : "On full throttle 120 minutes, low throttle or combine w pedaling, average user gets 6-8 hours". So do not claim all day. I usually go out 4-5 hours use it mid to full and still have 45% battery. Do not work for them and paid retail. If you lube use marine grade lithium grease. WD40 is good for door hinges but has rusted some of mine. They have new model motor for heavy weed areas. Hope you find a system that works for you. Friend has new Old Town Epedal 132 and an Autopilot 120 he loves.
@aranha936511 ай бұрын
I own a Native pdl chinese clone. It is been 5 years of harcore use, camping and offshore fishing, out of the box, not so good, but with some mods, it is a beast. I did the ("car engine) oil convertion"on the pedal drive, it is a game changer if you are able to do it on the old town, highly recommend you. O got a "weed guard" that a guy 3D printed in Australia, and it solved the problem with the fishing lines and everything else snags in between the propeller. I does wrap aroung the propeller, but it is easy to clear out. I tried a hobbie once and it is great, but personally I Ipreffer the circle motion of the pedal drive, than the hobbie straight pushes. I think it is a deal breaker that hobbie hulls has that many crack reports on the hull, that freaks me out, cause it is a very expensive kayak, and hull toughness is one the first things you need. I mean a have a chinese Yak that is well abused for years... no hull issues whatsoever.
@ryanlundy251911 ай бұрын
Seems like it would be hard to put a stern mounted motor on the PDL with that flip up rudder back there. I need to find some examples. I spend a lot more time in shallow water rivers though so Hobie wins for me.
@51ddb9 ай бұрын
Many good examples on KZbin showing Newport and Bixpy installs with no holes drilled.
@SturgisTrey11 ай бұрын
Hi. I found your channel by watching your kayak comparison and you commented that your an inspector. I’m a home inspector in Austin. I was wondering what crawlspace bot you are using? I need to get one but they’re so freaking expensive. Also, are you a commercial inspector?
@buildingcodepro923711 ай бұрын
Hello! Yes, I do comercial as well. I use the BIG crawler that Scot Baker made. North of $3000, it was VERY expensive, but I own two of them of that tells you anything about how invaluable this tool is for me.
@SturgisTrey11 ай бұрын
@@buildingcodepro9237 Gotcha…I’ve spoken to Scott several times about his bot. I should just bite the bullet and get one. Although, he told me a few months ago he wasn’t selling them right now due to a part shortage or something like that. I’m guessing that if you bought 2 of them from him, that you would recommend him and his bots?
@edwardegnor964111 ай бұрын
lol lame that outback will out do any other yak other then a pro angler lol