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@TPetroch 7 сағат бұрын
Fantastic!!! Gonna look awesome and perform beautifully with modern components. Just FYI, Campy does offer Centaur 11 speed in both ‘silver’ or ‘black’ finish.👍🚴🏽♂️
@91LX50Mike 15 сағат бұрын
Beautiful Condor…👀👀👀👀
@91LX50Mike 23 сағат бұрын
Stunning…..
@91LX50Mike 23 сағат бұрын
Check out Bill Mann’s Book..Why your bikes are made in Asia..Great history of the bike markets…(Incl Schwinn)….
@jamesdelgado2009 Күн бұрын
The best of both worlds. I installed 11-spend Campy Athena on my 1989 Cromovelato Nero Pinarello Montello and love it.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Күн бұрын
@@jamesdelgado2009 That's awesome, I've been looking for a silver Athena group in good shape similar to one on my 2016 fake Masi. They're hard to find a good shape
@91LX50Mike Күн бұрын
Great video John…..
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Күн бұрын
@@91LX50Mike thanks so much!
@91LX50Mike Күн бұрын
Great video….Mr. Gangl is a true craftsman……
@jemsmay2167 Күн бұрын
Thanks for the tour of your candy store! All beautiful but I have a special soft spot for the old French bikes. I have a 1980 Moto Grand Touring that needs some major attention to return it to its full former beauty, will get to it someday…
@chazzwan Күн бұрын
Do you have any 53 or 54cm. bikes for sale? Preferably a Schwinn Paramount, a Rich Gangl, or a Team Raleigh 753. Thanks John!
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Күн бұрын
@@chazzwan sorry, I don't, thanks for watching
@JohnRadford-iy7db Күн бұрын
Cooler than carbon
@systemBuilder 2 күн бұрын
On vintage bikes, dust caps are made of irreplacium. Therefore, I try to clean out the grease and regrease WITHOUT removing the dust caps. Something like 1% or even 0.1% of the time, the dust caps will resist removal and get deformed (or get loose from too many reinstallations, eventually), so it's best to leave them in place with vintage bikes ...
@Deanisok 2 күн бұрын
cant wait to see the finished product..... a very nice Campagnolo Groupset...!!!!!!! and a Pinarello Vuelta frame to put it all onto...!!!!!! its going to ride like smooth chocolate tastes... Beautiful ❤ and Happy New Year 2025........ Happy Cycling..!!!! 😃🚲
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 2 күн бұрын
I hope you're right! I hope it rides well. Wait till you see the tape and saddle!
@chrisfilby9678 2 күн бұрын
Looking forward to this. 👍
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! It's going to be fun!
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 2 күн бұрын
Just picked up a package Seth sent off to a friend in the USA for me. Back on the plane to Sicily tomorrow, Happy New Year! The Pinarello should be a nice bike when done - even prettier with polished alloy stuff...but it's getting so hard-to-find these daze and it'll ride just as well with the black stuff. Meanwhile, I checked on the proper way to pronounce UNICANITOR vs what Rich Gangl said. It's OOOHNEEE-CAHNNY-TOAR, not YOU-NEE-CAN-NIGHTER.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 2 күн бұрын
LOL.. I can never get it right on the Saddle! I couldn't find a Silver group in good shape. I have a Silver Athena group on my Fake 2016 Masi and I love it. It's hard to find a kit!
@JustClaude13 2 күн бұрын
I'll say gwer-chi-yot-ti. It's an undoubted legend. Because I'll have to take people's word on it. I've never heard of them. But then I've never even heard of Benotto, until I picked up a Mexican mixte for $50 in the thrift store. It still has the original Suntour gruppo, in Italian specs. Pulling the cotters was a nightmare.| I had trouble finding the right bike. If the Bianchi works out I'm fitting it out with racks and fenders for all weather riding. I pretend like I'm taking up randonneuring, but I'm really just a poser. On the Colnago: Apologies if someone already said this, but Più means More. They're basically calling it a Master Plus. No explanation for why they didn't say 'Maestro'. Maybe giving bikes names in English was more stylish at the time.
@sacroyprofanoGOML 3 күн бұрын
I personally don't like the Neo-Retro, I prefer that the components match the era of the bike frame. In addition, the classic components are of much better quality and elegance.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 3 күн бұрын
@@sacroyprofanoGOML to be honest, I actually agree with you. However, this being a mid-90s frame I have to admit I do not like the mid '90s campy parts. Doesn't hurt to have one in the collection. Check out my other videos. You will see plenty of. Correct bicycles. Thanks for watching
@candystink 3 күн бұрын
Can’t see adding all these black components to that beautiful Pinarello frame. This Centaur groupset shows perfectly well how off the rails Campy went. Is this really the same company that created the Record C groupset?
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 3 күн бұрын
@@candystink I get what you're saying, however campy also made Grand Sport. Take a close look at that rear derailleur. This is obviously their third level down. I have other projects in the works taking up some major dough, so I had to skimp on this one a little bit. However, I'm not gluing on the parts. I may move them around another day. Thanks for watching
@miked1542 3 күн бұрын
I just love these videos. Thanks John.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 3 күн бұрын
Thank you! Glad you do!
@joesch1733 3 күн бұрын
I attempted to join and got pending. Are your going to approve each new join attempt?
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 3 күн бұрын
Are you in?
@JustClaude13 3 күн бұрын
Some of the old steel frames were incredible. I have a modern bike based on the Centaur Featherweight, a tough twenty-eight pound bike made before the First World War. Except Azor made it with extra sturdy tubing that allows them to make a step-through as stiff as a diamond frame. So it weighs sixty pounds. I love it. The ride is incredible. But Lord, is it heavy. So when I decided to try road bikes on a budget I went on Facebook Marketplace and picked up a 1976 Schwinn Super LeTour 12.2. Much better, but 21". Once I had tires on it and tried it I knew I couldn't give road bikes a fair test on something too small. I'm going to sell it. I just dropped $125 on an eighteen speed Bianchi Randonneur. At 58cm it should be my size, but the tubes need to be replaced before it will hold air. I have high hopes. Being old, I plan to enjoy the bottom gears on hills.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 3 күн бұрын
@@JustClaude13 very interesting. You could find some very good values from the '70s and '80s that ride really really well.
@dewittlunsford2527 3 күн бұрын
Wow! Just an amazing collection of beautiful bicycles. I especially liked the Mercians, because I just acquired 1985.
@dewittlunsford2527 3 күн бұрын
a 1985😂
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 3 күн бұрын
@@dewittlunsford2527 Mercians are beautiful bikes!!
@jeremynorth 4 күн бұрын
You should have bought Record for this build
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 3 күн бұрын
@@jeremynorth I hear ya..I had to keep the cost down. I have other builds taking up some doh. Especially my custom Bock bike
@JustClaude13 4 күн бұрын
I agree in principle, with caveats. I found a Super LeTour garage queen, with apparently all the original components. Beautiful condition. Also too small, so I'll be reselling it now that I've tried it and found it to hard to ride. I wouldn't change anything on that one. I just dropped $125 on an 18 speed Bianchi Randonneur. Needs tubes, but the Kenda tires are new. I'll probably swap them out for Schwalbes later, and it has enough miles I won't mind buying a new freewheel, especially if I can find a wider range cluster. Although the road triple probably gives it plenty of range. But I'm keeping the down tubes. I don't race so the newer brifters don't give enough advantage to justify the outrageous cost. Friction shifters are never out of adjustment.
@dfiglide 4 күн бұрын
It`s gunna be a great build `cause you`ve already bled on it, hahaha.
@dfiglide 4 күн бұрын
I`m jealous already & I`ve just started watching, delivered in a campag box no less!!
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 3 күн бұрын
@@dfiglide makes it fun!
@stanrosenblum4669 4 күн бұрын
Great video as usual. It would be nice to see what such a build actually costs. Thanks
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
@@stanrosenblum4669 I think I have just over 2K invested
@keithandrews7696 4 күн бұрын
Seth does a fantastic job packaging and in general caring for his customers. A big thanks to him the way he packaged my Eddy Merckx Road to Race book.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
Yes. He does business really well. Plus he's a great guy.
@jonbrowning6839 4 күн бұрын
Excellent frame and build! My first frame up build for myself was a 1996 Pinarello Monviso in that same glorious red, purchased when I was a bike mechanic while in college. Had to go with 600 Ultegra though. Fantastic ride.
@robbylong2748 4 күн бұрын
I would have put late 90’s early 2000’s Campy 10-speed, at least it had a lot more chrome parts that would go better with that Pinarello, not digging the blacked out parts, just my opinion, love those bikes
@CyCyclesCyril 4 күн бұрын
At’ll be a sweet ride and those Campy Zonda wheels should be awesome if they’re anything like my Eurus wheels.
@patrickparisienne1917 4 күн бұрын
Zondas are an absolute killer wheelset! Own both rim and disc , and can’t fault them!
@maurozky1 4 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see the build. Have fun!
@scotiavelo1405 4 күн бұрын
What size of frame is the Pinarello
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
@@scotiavelo1405 hi, it's a 58 to top
@scotiavelo1405 4 күн бұрын
Will look great when finished. Enjoying your channel over here in Scotland. Rim brakes rule 😉
@evanswinford7165 4 күн бұрын
Bike porn, for shame.
@BruceVaillancourt 4 күн бұрын
I had an old 1984 calnago Supra black with yellow lettering I just rebuild it with all campanula parts all different years of it but it's a hodgepodge Wheels have the super record hubs I want to send you photos of it but I don't know how to put photos into this
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
HI Bruce. You can send photos and such to my Email address that is on the front page of my KZbin channel.
@BruceVaillancourt 4 күн бұрын
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 👍🚴
@TESTA-CC 4 күн бұрын
Thanks John 👍
@edmundhodgson2572 4 күн бұрын
Such beautiful bikes. What a treat!
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
Thanks
@josepheads5589 4 күн бұрын
Trigger warning: I’m mostly just yanking the chains of the Campagnolo aficionados out there, but . . . I’ve been road riding since the late-70s and have ridden many bikes over the years. I’ve owned two Campy equipped bikes - one with Nuovo Record and one with Chorus 9-speed. I’ve never understood the fascination with Campy parts. My Campagnolo bikes were OK but they can’t compare to my Dura Ace bikes. Dura Ace shifts better, weighs less, last just as long, and is better looking. Well, I guess “better looking” might be subjective, but the “better shifting” is indisputable. I have DA7700 on my 1995 (California) Masi Volumetrica and DA7400 on my 1983 Gitane Super Corsa. They look and shift great with KMC gold chains. Gotta have the golden chains!
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
I'd agree on the early campy assessment. However for me it's style and durability. I love the look and finish. Yes Dura Ace performed better. The 7400 group destroyed Campagnolo and they never fully recovered. When it comes to vintage. Some would ask why I dont put better parts for better performance. My answer is simple. If I buy a 57 Chevy. I don't care how fast it is. I dont care how well the brakes work. I'm not going to change it from stock. If I want better total performance I'll ride my Moots with full Ultegra. Thanks for watching!
@josepheads5589 4 күн бұрын
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage You are absolutely right. I still have the Simplex, Stronglight, and Modolo parts for my Gitane. When I’m too old to ride hard (in a few short years, I fear) I’ll be putting those back on the Gitane to get it back to OEM specs. At some point, nostalgia needs to win out over efficiency. But I will always enjoy trading the Campy people!
@josepheads5589 4 күн бұрын
Teasing the Campy people, that is.
@CyCyclesCyril 4 күн бұрын
Well @josepheads5589… if you’re yanking my Campy 9-sp lovin chain (BWAAHAAAA!) I’ll have you know that after 30,000+ miles I am just now getting ready to rebuild my Ergo levers and (ok folks, go ahead and flame me now!) I have NEVER replaced the chain and cassette. I maintain them pretty well but folks gotta understand and admit, that’s some d.u.r.a.b.i.l.i.t.y. with 9-so stuff that prolly just ain’t available with 11,12,13 cogs! Totally love my 9sp Record though by building a bike with 10sp Chorus the comparison let me know the 9sp shifting was gettin a lil tired. Rebuild is now coming courtesy of a buddy who knows that process well. Also, I am (like John) in flat as a damn pancake Illinois so what the heck difference would another cog or two make to me? Answer: Doesn’t matter. Thanks for your comments. Enjoy your (insert Italian accent here!) “Duda-atchayy” and we used to call it. Right on. Ride on!
@luizsergiolemos4541 4 күн бұрын
Uau, a minha é muito parecida só que o modelo e Stelvio, parabéns pelo vídeo e grande abraço do fã do Brasil 🇧🇷.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
Thanks. I dont know the difference between the models. Thanks for watching!
@cosmomaker 4 күн бұрын
👏👏👏 here in Brazil we found 50 to 80 Caloi, Monark and Pegeout, im stuning with this collection 😮
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
Wow 80 Caloi!
@MajorJamesGastovski 4 күн бұрын
Am I the only one thinking, why doesn't Campy bring back its polished, shiny parts for the retro and randonneur market? Campy's market share is ultra-low; almost no one is buying, neither OEM nor aftermarket, but the needs from retro and randonneur are real. Companies like Velo Orange and Rene Herse just can't wait for Campy to do this, both developing their own silver polished retro-looking parts. I really can't get the idea why go black for the mid and lower-end groupoes. If they want to use black to create the similar look as the carbon high level ones, campy has definitely made it wrong. Everyone can tell the difference between the carbon and the black plastic. I'm just saying that Campy just needs to bring back its bullet-prove 9-speed 90s classic for the retro market; its sales performance must improve.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
You're right! I was actually looking for a silver Athena group similar to the one on my 2016 fake Masi. I couldnt find one in good shape. So I chose this group in stead
@josepheads5589 4 күн бұрын
It’s much cheaper to paint it black than to polish it.
@TESTA-CC 4 күн бұрын
You can still buy polished Campagnolo Groupsets, but they are no longer made in Italy. They are made in Taiwan.
@johns3106 4 күн бұрын
It makes me chuckle a bit to read that anyone who watches this channel thinks “9-speed ‘90’s classic” is retro. So many of us are old enough that we think of anything since the mid-‘80’s as “new”!☺️
@CyCyclesCyril 4 күн бұрын
9sp bulletproof? Absolutely. I am just getting ready to have my 9sp Record Ergo levers rebuilt for the first time in 30,000+ miles And I know I’m going to open myself to absolute flaming but truth is I have NEVER replaced the original 9sp chain and cassette. I do kerosene and ultrasonic clean them about twice a year but hey, if it ain’t broke, don’t replace it!. What alerted me to the “tired” shifting was getting on another bile with 10sp Chorus. Like “Woaaah! That’s crisp!!!”
@trinab9612 4 күн бұрын
Great video. Beautiful Pinarelo. Lots of great looking older bikes in the shorts too
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
Thanks. I still have some of those bikes in the video. I sold a few of them
@robertpowell7142 4 күн бұрын
I applaud the Centaur and the Zondas. Top all-around components, for the price, period. The build will be very similar to one I did a few years ago, and traded to SpaghettiLegs on Bike Forums. Can’t wait to see it come together. Enjoy!
@SkyhawkSteve 4 күн бұрын
hmmm.... the always controversial neo-retro build! It's nice to fit out a vintage frame with the best that tech has to offer, but the aesthetics of the new parts can be unsettling. Black parts? With a red frame, that's not a bad color combination. Going full black is probably better than mixing silver and black parts. Honestly, with disc brakes dominating the market, the ability to do a neo-retro build may be disappearing. Finding new rim brakes and levers may be getting more difficult. As for the review of bike reviews of the past.. I didn't recognize the two-tone green bike that we got a brief look at. Looks interesting, though!
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
Interesting word. Controversial to whom? LOL
@SkyhawkSteve 4 күн бұрын
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage I guess we'll find out.😁
@bradtowne2305 3 күн бұрын
I think Velo Orange, Rivendale and Soma will try to continue to support rim brakes. But yeah - the move to disc brakes and electronic groupsets really have upended this. I mean, technology for up until say, 2010, was merely an update to existing designs.....and there was a feeling that a bike from 1965 or 2005 were not really that much different.
@waynemattson2187 4 күн бұрын
Great selection of Campy for the Pinarello build. Very cool montage you included in this video. There were a lot of dream bikes shown. Can’t wait for the next video.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
I still have most of the bike in the montage. I did sell some of them. Thanks for watching!
@FLUSHER822 4 күн бұрын
Good stuff, as always, John, looking forward to the build. You still have an amazing collection. Looking forward to the Bock.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
Thank you, YES that Bock is going to be soo cool.
@mark950-d7d 4 күн бұрын
You need a SPECIAL chain tool for that pin.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I'll look into that!
@georgebellairs5746 4 күн бұрын
Interesting build idea, will be fun to watch. Two things I miss when I ride one of my full vintage bikes. Wide rims with 28mm or bigger tires, and the better ergo of 11 speed or newer hoods on a compact bar. The biggest contributors to fit/comfort that my "modern" bikes have over vintage. I've been kicking around doing something similar, the limiter being frame clearance.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
I hear ya. I rode my 80 Jack Taylor across Ohio in July. Randonneur bars with vintage levers. My hands were killing me. My Moots with the modern bars and Ultegra handles would have been much more comfortable!.
@johnmoruzzi7236 4 күн бұрын
Centaur 11 speed is a great groupset, but I’d have gone for the 52/36 crankset given the choice… more classic and fine for hills with a 12-32 cassette…
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
I debated that. But looking at the terrain that I'd be riding this one I figured the 39/52 and 11-29 was fine.. We'll see probably on the first ride if that was a mistake! lol
@CyCyclesCyril 4 күн бұрын
John is in Hellinois where it’ is depressingly flat so the 39t will be fine. If he were out near Seth in Colorado that 36t could be more appreciated.
@glej72 4 күн бұрын
This makes me miss my 1986 Raleigh Prestige. I did 3 "Hotter than Hell 100s" on it in high school and road around S. Korea, while in the army, in 1997.
@robertpowell7142 4 күн бұрын
HNHH is simply the best century in the US. The spirit there, the spectators, and Texas, goes without saying.
@billkallas1762 4 күн бұрын
Any bike with a quill stem, rim brakes, and cable operated shifting, can be considered "Retro". I wish that components were still silver, instead of Black.
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 4 күн бұрын
I hear ya Bill. I was originally looking for a Silver Athena group like the one on my 2016 fake Masi. I couldn't find one unfortunately.
@kevinfrost1579 2 күн бұрын
Why not Centaur silver ………just curious ?
@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage 2 күн бұрын
@kevinfrost1579 they have not made one in a few years. I have not been able to find one affordably in decent shape.