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@robert_starling
@robert_starling 11 күн бұрын
Cleanest shop ever!
@frankroobaert808
@frankroobaert808 14 күн бұрын
Maybe you could add polyester wool and recycled PET felt into your materials choice please
@r2d2romo1
@r2d2romo1 17 күн бұрын
En el caso de sumar al panel un panel de 3 mm de mdf perforado ¿qué efecto positivo o negativo tendría? Tengo entendido que tendría una función híbrida difusor/absorción; pero, ¿Cuándo saber el implementar y bajo qué condiciones?. Saludos, su canal es estupendo.
@Larsbor
@Larsbor 27 күн бұрын
You should have had 1-2 cm of space behind to trap the sound.
@baze703
@baze703 28 күн бұрын
so many great craftsman tips, but such a terrible bass trap design. what's that little thing going to do? it might get down to 1500 hz. broadband bass traps are especially terrible for small rooms (your room). look at Helmholtz resonators and find videos from old engineers
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 26 күн бұрын
The little thing is nothing but just a sample for the tutorial. It's a sample used to show how it's built. We never and won't recommend that folks should build to the same miniature size. Everyone should feel free to build to their desired dimensions according to their room needs.
@baze703
@baze703 26 күн бұрын
@@neptuneaudiospace great craftsmanship info tho. Super informative. Thanks. I’m sorry for being a grump
@nukreativemusic
@nukreativemusic Ай бұрын
Great. Can you send a link to the 4" Rockwool?
@louisr1415
@louisr1415 Ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for the insightful video. I have a question: considering its acoustic transparency, is it appropriate to use 100% cotton as a cover for the sound absorption panel?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace Ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely! 100% Cotton materials are perfect for acoustics panels.
@xmpla
@xmpla Ай бұрын
What about compressing earthwool batts as they are quite spongy? Woukd this increase density and therefore effectiveness if I was to make bass traps 6-8inches thick on the largest point? Thank you
@Studio22mix
@Studio22mix Ай бұрын
The performance of many porous absorbers can be explained by comparing the size of the sound wave to the depth of the treatment. The size of the wave is quantified using the wavelength, which is the distance between adjacent crests of the wave. The wavelength varies greatly with frequency: at 50Hz the wavelength is 6.8m, at 500Hz it is 0.68m and at 5000Hz it is 0.068mm. A simple rule of thumb is that for a porous absorber to be effective it needs to at least a 10th of a wavelength thick. At 500Hz, this equates to a depth of 6.8cm. The very large wavelengths of low-frequency sounds are the reason why bare acoustic foam makes an inefficient bass absorber unless the material is extremely thick. For a 52Hz sound, for example, a layer of porous absorbent 65cm thick is needed to provide absorption and this needs to cover a large surface area, not just a few pieces in the room corners.
@skypallman6169
@skypallman6169 Ай бұрын
Yeah you're definitely supposed to use your finishing nails or more appropriately brad nails when you are assembling the two corners together. the whole point of the brad nails for finishing nails in your case is to hold the wood together until the glue dries.... 🫣
@pc3340
@pc3340 Ай бұрын
question, are bass traps not supposed to have an air gap built in? Would it make sense to halve the size of the insulation wedges being placed in these enclosures?
@TheSpeedyr6
@TheSpeedyr6 Ай бұрын
Duck canvas are so wrong they are extremely tight weave and not transparent for acoustic fabric , thanks for fukking up my acoustic panel now I have to undo all goddamn panels and find correct fabric
@jpsandberg
@jpsandberg Ай бұрын
Making a fancy jig and clamping the triangular end pieces is a waste of time if you are gluing and screwing. The screws will provide MORE than enough clamping force needed as glue dries That said, while nice, this design is quite a bit overkill as you don't really need back walls for a corner basstrap - the actual walls of the room will suffice.All this does is take away from the amount of actual acoustic material you can use in the trap given the front face dimension. Quite a bit actually.
@aferalva69
@aferalva69 2 ай бұрын
If the fabric is breathable as suggested wouldn't this cause a problem? I am using wool rock and for what i am reading the fiber glass can cause lungs problems. In fact it is recommended to wear mask while installing it . I imagining sitting in a room breathing all the fiber glass from the roo k wool can cause a serious health issue. Am i missing something?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 2 ай бұрын
You shouldn't be too worried once your panels are wrapped and remain hung on the wall. If you want to ensure peace of mind, use fabric like Duck Canvas, which has a tighter weave that can trap those loose fibers and keep them from escaping into your space. However, It's important to apply safety during the building stage.
@freedomgardens5296
@freedomgardens5296 2 ай бұрын
thanks
@PanopticMotion
@PanopticMotion 2 ай бұрын
Do you realize this insulation is basically expososed to air! It contains Urea Formaldehyde. Have you seen all the healthier reports about this material!
@spudpud-T67
@spudpud-T67 2 ай бұрын
A lot of trigonometry when you can just use take the corner of the room is 90 degrees. Super strong box when it is just holding rock wool. Making a thinner box or just a wrapped rockwool pillow would be just as good.
@turtlefeet7722
@turtlefeet7722 2 ай бұрын
Nice tutorial, but this tutorial works only if you have all the tools. A workshop like this is more expensive than buying a couple of bass traps.
@ArturoBeltran-he1rt
@ArturoBeltran-he1rt 2 ай бұрын
Wow that's way too much work . Just pay extra and save time. Time is priceless.
@rob4601
@rob4601 2 ай бұрын
Why do you close the back? Do you not let the back be open to let sound go behind the panel into an open space and then it tries to come back? Like the air gap? I'm asking. Not. Arguing or disagreeing.
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 2 ай бұрын
We did close the back for safety reasons; to keep the insulation from falling out too much. We did mention in the video that it is optional. You may leave the back open if you prefer.
@rob4601
@rob4601 2 ай бұрын
Such a legend. Love your videos
@rob4601
@rob4601 2 ай бұрын
Wow. Where has this video been my whole life
@belasribadreddine
@belasribadreddine 27 күн бұрын
Just been up for 11 months. That's why
@bluerambo3433
@bluerambo3433 3 ай бұрын
I’ll get on it right away, just before I put together an entire wood shop together. Is there a tutorial for that too? 😂
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 2 ай бұрын
Working on releasing the video on that
@CesarLeon
@CesarLeon 3 ай бұрын
“Quickest and easiest” procedes to use professional carpentry equipment 😂😂😂
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 2 ай бұрын
Working on releasing the video that involves using simple tools
@justingriffin36
@justingriffin36 2 ай бұрын
​@neptuneaudiospace Curious, I don't have access to most of these tools (although I have a friend with a drill and a staple gun) but can't you find/use a place like home depot to cut the wood?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 2 ай бұрын
@justingriffin36 Yes, some of these stores have these power tools, and they do give access to customers for use. So you can definitely do that.
@marcosilvanavarrete173
@marcosilvanavarrete173 Ай бұрын
You can do it with a circular saw and a square. And A LOT of patience and planning.
@tubeo94
@tubeo94 3 ай бұрын
if you find some weirdo in walmart sniffing fabric in walmart, they are not creeps, just audio engineers out of their familiar habitat finding materials.
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 3 ай бұрын
😄
@happyandhealthy888
@happyandhealthy888 3 ай бұрын
childfree group - respectfully
@MrAzulikit
@MrAzulikit 3 ай бұрын
What insulation should I use for a theatre false rear wall, 4-6 inches of insulation. Rockwool SNS or Comfortboard 80?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 2 ай бұрын
Use either product. They are both great at absorbing deep. In terms of safety, the Rockwool SnS might be a little safer, but the Comfortboard is pretty safe too.
@Yourstrulyent_
@Yourstrulyent_ 3 ай бұрын
I’m looking into this system, but was wondering whether I should be concerned about vibrations in the clips when playing music a bit loud. Like when a car rattles with a subwoofer, would these metal clips vibrate and rattle?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 3 ай бұрын
As long as the clips are tightly secure both on the wall and on the panel, you should not have any problem with the vibration on them. Maybe if they are a little loose, then you should be concerned. Also, the weight of the panel may help to keep the inertia on those clips so that they don't vibrate too easily.
@AndyParka
@AndyParka 4 ай бұрын
Underrated video, this needs to be shared more
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 3 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you for your awesome comment. We hope to get this to more viewers!
@joserios7024
@joserios7024 4 ай бұрын
Can you teach how to determine bass trap dimensions and materials based on the frequency range you want to cut off the room?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. We will keep this in our notes. Hopefully, soon we can make an in-depth video on this topic.
@baze703
@baze703 28 күн бұрын
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@r2d2romo1
@r2d2romo1 17 күн бұрын
​@@neptuneaudiospacesería genial verlo.
@micinput
@micinput 4 ай бұрын
Great tutorial. Any specifications on what kinds of materials make good absorptive material?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! There are various types and brands of absorption materials out there. They all perform well and only with slight differences here and there in their performances. If you need a great performance at an affordable price, Rockwool Insulation is the best option. Recycled Cotton and Sheepwool Insulation are awesome at performance but they are not the most affordable, and they are not easily found on the market, unlike Rockwool which is widely available anywhere. You can find Rockwool at your local Lowes or Home Depot store. This is why Rockwool might be considered the best for both price and quality performance, though in terms of safety, Rockwool may not be the safest material ever. But much safer than Fiberglass at least.
@gabrielmateitoma8527
@gabrielmateitoma8527 4 ай бұрын
Why use screws, which vibrate and add to the problem, instead of wood dowels
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 2 ай бұрын
Wooden dowels are a good idea but the effect of the screw can be negligible. We build in bulk so time is precious.
@KASmonkeys
@KASmonkeys 4 ай бұрын
lol
@discomyass
@discomyass 4 ай бұрын
yeah great but all this work and waste of materials for something that won't even reach 200hz
@warpacademy
@warpacademy 4 ай бұрын
This ^^. Very true. To handle bass the traps need to be much deeper. It would also be much better to use a panel of high density rigid fiberglass or rockwool (80-90 kg/m3) as the front layer and make a much larger trap. Look at designs like the Primacoustic Maxxtrap. 24" wide front facing. The design and process looks good, but the size is just too small to be effective at low frequencies. Bass wavelengths are large with a ton of power. Bass-oriented treatments also are generally large.
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! This is a tutorial video. We only used this as an example to show how these are built. We know most rooms will need basstrap bigger and deeper than that. We do have bigger, deeper bass traps in our own space. Obviously, we'd expect anyone looking to DIY to build according to their space requirements. Every type of room has different needs, which in most cases, you'll need basstraps deeper than the sample used in this video. Hope this helps clarify!
@mendez77054ify
@mendez77054ify 4 ай бұрын
Is 4 inches thick the recommended?
@youtubewatcher2006
@youtubewatcher2006 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Is it a good idea to wrap acoustic panels that are already built in plastic to prevent fibres from escaping, meaning that the entire fabric is covered by thin plastic tarp? Or does the plastic barrier have to be on the inside - between fabric and rockwool?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 5 ай бұрын
The plastic wrap should be between the fabric and rockwool.
@cybernessful
@cybernessful 5 ай бұрын
Total unscientific BS about type of fabrics to use. You just admitted you have no clue what you're talking about and have no credibility as a manufacturer. You can use any type of fabrics you want, all of them are transparent for the sound audible to humans. Get some school level physics classes.
@Fubuki43
@Fubuki43 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are incredibly well made. Thank you! I would however like to say that the panels and this bass trap that you showcase are not really deep enough to do any real absorption in the low frequencies. The thicker, the better!
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! We only used this as an example to show how these are built. Obviously, we'd expect anyone looking to DIY to build according to their space requirements. Every type of room has different needs, which in most cases, you'll need basstraps deeper than the sample used in this video. Maybe this can actually be another topic for another day to talk about how to treat different types of rooms.
@gregjacksun
@gregjacksun 5 ай бұрын
El Duderino - if you're not into the whole "brevity" thing.
@mirothedjplaylist
@mirothedjplaylist 5 ай бұрын
Amazon sales wedge pillows for queen-size bed pre made bass traps basically, also keeps my pillows from falling
@collinscassel
@collinscassel 5 ай бұрын
How did you make those brackets!
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 5 ай бұрын
Check out our 'Building Tips' Playlist on our homepage. You'll find the video showing how we made the brackets.
@gregredd5374
@gregredd5374 5 ай бұрын
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@guilhermerosarodrigues7748
@guilhermerosarodrigues7748 5 ай бұрын
How do you attach it on the wall?
@emnesia6391
@emnesia6391 5 ай бұрын
Duct tape obviously
@spudpud-T67
@spudpud-T67 2 ай бұрын
9 inch nails
@NevadaSYSTEMmusic
@NevadaSYSTEMmusic 5 ай бұрын
Is there any practical way to do this without a table saw?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 5 ай бұрын
There are several other ways you could make similar-looking bass traps without using a table saw. We will eventually put some videos together showing how to do this using some really simple tools.
@azavoiceamazighfdoux
@azavoiceamazighfdoux 5 ай бұрын
Good job 👍
@domasad3229
@domasad3229 6 ай бұрын
Hey dude, great videos all along! Do you plan on making one about diffusers by chance?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Will make diffuser contents eventually. Will make sure to do this for both Skyline and Quadratic.
@s.f.4896
@s.f.4896 6 ай бұрын
Hi there, does somebody know,if the wood fibre insulation called : "steico flex" works as well or maybe better than rockwool ? Thx for your reply ✌🏻
@farfymcdoogle3461
@farfymcdoogle3461 6 ай бұрын
Love your vids! Please make one focused on different wall/ceiling mounting techniques 🙏
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 6 ай бұрын
Noted! We'll definitely put content together for this. Thanks for the amazing suggestion!
@farfymcdoogle3461
@farfymcdoogle3461 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Got a video on the best fabric options?
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! We're yet to put that video together. You gave us a reminder.
@Nashville_Cat
@Nashville_Cat 6 ай бұрын
You deserve many subscribers. Great video!
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 6 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for the motivation!
@anhellehna6858
@anhellehna6858 6 ай бұрын
What about woodwool
@neptuneaudiospace
@neptuneaudiospace 6 ай бұрын
Not sure about the effectiveness of wood wool compared to these industry standards but would be interesting to look into it and do some experiments.