Maybe you could add polyester wool and recycled PET felt into your materials choice please
@r2d2romo117 күн бұрын
En el caso de sumar al panel un panel de 3 mm de mdf perforado ¿qué efecto positivo o negativo tendría? Tengo entendido que tendría una función híbrida difusor/absorción; pero, ¿Cuándo saber el implementar y bajo qué condiciones?. Saludos, su canal es estupendo.
@Larsbor27 күн бұрын
You should have had 1-2 cm of space behind to trap the sound.
@baze70328 күн бұрын
so many great craftsman tips, but such a terrible bass trap design. what's that little thing going to do? it might get down to 1500 hz. broadband bass traps are especially terrible for small rooms (your room). look at Helmholtz resonators and find videos from old engineers
@neptuneaudiospace26 күн бұрын
The little thing is nothing but just a sample for the tutorial. It's a sample used to show how it's built. We never and won't recommend that folks should build to the same miniature size. Everyone should feel free to build to their desired dimensions according to their room needs.
@baze70326 күн бұрын
@@neptuneaudiospace great craftsmanship info tho. Super informative. Thanks. I’m sorry for being a grump
@nukreativemusicАй бұрын
Great. Can you send a link to the 4" Rockwool?
@louisr1415Ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for the insightful video. I have a question: considering its acoustic transparency, is it appropriate to use 100% cotton as a cover for the sound absorption panel?
@neptuneaudiospaceАй бұрын
Yes, absolutely! 100% Cotton materials are perfect for acoustics panels.
@xmplaАй бұрын
What about compressing earthwool batts as they are quite spongy? Woukd this increase density and therefore effectiveness if I was to make bass traps 6-8inches thick on the largest point? Thank you
@Studio22mixАй бұрын
The performance of many porous absorbers can be explained by comparing the size of the sound wave to the depth of the treatment. The size of the wave is quantified using the wavelength, which is the distance between adjacent crests of the wave. The wavelength varies greatly with frequency: at 50Hz the wavelength is 6.8m, at 500Hz it is 0.68m and at 5000Hz it is 0.068mm. A simple rule of thumb is that for a porous absorber to be effective it needs to at least a 10th of a wavelength thick. At 500Hz, this equates to a depth of 6.8cm. The very large wavelengths of low-frequency sounds are the reason why bare acoustic foam makes an inefficient bass absorber unless the material is extremely thick. For a 52Hz sound, for example, a layer of porous absorbent 65cm thick is needed to provide absorption and this needs to cover a large surface area, not just a few pieces in the room corners.
@skypallman6169Ай бұрын
Yeah you're definitely supposed to use your finishing nails or more appropriately brad nails when you are assembling the two corners together. the whole point of the brad nails for finishing nails in your case is to hold the wood together until the glue dries.... 🫣
@pc3340Ай бұрын
question, are bass traps not supposed to have an air gap built in? Would it make sense to halve the size of the insulation wedges being placed in these enclosures?
@TheSpeedyr6Ай бұрын
Duck canvas are so wrong they are extremely tight weave and not transparent for acoustic fabric , thanks for fukking up my acoustic panel now I have to undo all goddamn panels and find correct fabric
@jpsandbergАй бұрын
Making a fancy jig and clamping the triangular end pieces is a waste of time if you are gluing and screwing. The screws will provide MORE than enough clamping force needed as glue dries That said, while nice, this design is quite a bit overkill as you don't really need back walls for a corner basstrap - the actual walls of the room will suffice.All this does is take away from the amount of actual acoustic material you can use in the trap given the front face dimension. Quite a bit actually.
@aferalva692 ай бұрын
If the fabric is breathable as suggested wouldn't this cause a problem? I am using wool rock and for what i am reading the fiber glass can cause lungs problems. In fact it is recommended to wear mask while installing it . I imagining sitting in a room breathing all the fiber glass from the roo k wool can cause a serious health issue. Am i missing something?
@neptuneaudiospace2 ай бұрын
You shouldn't be too worried once your panels are wrapped and remain hung on the wall. If you want to ensure peace of mind, use fabric like Duck Canvas, which has a tighter weave that can trap those loose fibers and keep them from escaping into your space. However, It's important to apply safety during the building stage.
@freedomgardens52962 ай бұрын
thanks
@PanopticMotion2 ай бұрын
Do you realize this insulation is basically expososed to air! It contains Urea Formaldehyde. Have you seen all the healthier reports about this material!
@spudpud-T672 ай бұрын
A lot of trigonometry when you can just use take the corner of the room is 90 degrees. Super strong box when it is just holding rock wool. Making a thinner box or just a wrapped rockwool pillow would be just as good.
@turtlefeet77222 ай бұрын
Nice tutorial, but this tutorial works only if you have all the tools. A workshop like this is more expensive than buying a couple of bass traps.
@ArturoBeltran-he1rt2 ай бұрын
Wow that's way too much work . Just pay extra and save time. Time is priceless.
@rob46012 ай бұрын
Why do you close the back? Do you not let the back be open to let sound go behind the panel into an open space and then it tries to come back? Like the air gap? I'm asking. Not. Arguing or disagreeing.
@neptuneaudiospace2 ай бұрын
We did close the back for safety reasons; to keep the insulation from falling out too much. We did mention in the video that it is optional. You may leave the back open if you prefer.
@rob46012 ай бұрын
Such a legend. Love your videos
@rob46012 ай бұрын
Wow. Where has this video been my whole life
@belasribadreddine27 күн бұрын
Just been up for 11 months. That's why
@bluerambo34333 ай бұрын
I’ll get on it right away, just before I put together an entire wood shop together. Is there a tutorial for that too? 😂
@neptuneaudiospace2 ай бұрын
Working on releasing the video on that
@CesarLeon3 ай бұрын
“Quickest and easiest” procedes to use professional carpentry equipment 😂😂😂
@neptuneaudiospace2 ай бұрын
Working on releasing the video that involves using simple tools
@justingriffin362 ай бұрын
@neptuneaudiospace Curious, I don't have access to most of these tools (although I have a friend with a drill and a staple gun) but can't you find/use a place like home depot to cut the wood?
@neptuneaudiospace2 ай бұрын
@justingriffin36 Yes, some of these stores have these power tools, and they do give access to customers for use. So you can definitely do that.
@marcosilvanavarrete173Ай бұрын
You can do it with a circular saw and a square. And A LOT of patience and planning.
@tubeo943 ай бұрын
if you find some weirdo in walmart sniffing fabric in walmart, they are not creeps, just audio engineers out of their familiar habitat finding materials.
@neptuneaudiospace3 ай бұрын
😄
@happyandhealthy8883 ай бұрын
childfree group - respectfully
@MrAzulikit3 ай бұрын
What insulation should I use for a theatre false rear wall, 4-6 inches of insulation. Rockwool SNS or Comfortboard 80?
@neptuneaudiospace2 ай бұрын
Use either product. They are both great at absorbing deep. In terms of safety, the Rockwool SnS might be a little safer, but the Comfortboard is pretty safe too.
@Yourstrulyent_3 ай бұрын
I’m looking into this system, but was wondering whether I should be concerned about vibrations in the clips when playing music a bit loud. Like when a car rattles with a subwoofer, would these metal clips vibrate and rattle?
@neptuneaudiospace3 ай бұрын
As long as the clips are tightly secure both on the wall and on the panel, you should not have any problem with the vibration on them. Maybe if they are a little loose, then you should be concerned. Also, the weight of the panel may help to keep the inertia on those clips so that they don't vibrate too easily.
@AndyParka4 ай бұрын
Underrated video, this needs to be shared more
@neptuneaudiospace3 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you for your awesome comment. We hope to get this to more viewers!
@joserios70244 ай бұрын
Can you teach how to determine bass trap dimensions and materials based on the frequency range you want to cut off the room?
@neptuneaudiospace3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. We will keep this in our notes. Hopefully, soon we can make an in-depth video on this topic.
@baze70328 күн бұрын
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@r2d2romo117 күн бұрын
@@neptuneaudiospacesería genial verlo.
@micinput4 ай бұрын
Great tutorial. Any specifications on what kinds of materials make good absorptive material?
@neptuneaudiospace4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! There are various types and brands of absorption materials out there. They all perform well and only with slight differences here and there in their performances. If you need a great performance at an affordable price, Rockwool Insulation is the best option. Recycled Cotton and Sheepwool Insulation are awesome at performance but they are not the most affordable, and they are not easily found on the market, unlike Rockwool which is widely available anywhere. You can find Rockwool at your local Lowes or Home Depot store. This is why Rockwool might be considered the best for both price and quality performance, though in terms of safety, Rockwool may not be the safest material ever. But much safer than Fiberglass at least.
@gabrielmateitoma85274 ай бұрын
Why use screws, which vibrate and add to the problem, instead of wood dowels
@neptuneaudiospace2 ай бұрын
Wooden dowels are a good idea but the effect of the screw can be negligible. We build in bulk so time is precious.
@KASmonkeys4 ай бұрын
lol
@discomyass4 ай бұрын
yeah great but all this work and waste of materials for something that won't even reach 200hz
@warpacademy4 ай бұрын
This ^^. Very true. To handle bass the traps need to be much deeper. It would also be much better to use a panel of high density rigid fiberglass or rockwool (80-90 kg/m3) as the front layer and make a much larger trap. Look at designs like the Primacoustic Maxxtrap. 24" wide front facing. The design and process looks good, but the size is just too small to be effective at low frequencies. Bass wavelengths are large with a ton of power. Bass-oriented treatments also are generally large.
@neptuneaudiospace4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! This is a tutorial video. We only used this as an example to show how these are built. We know most rooms will need basstrap bigger and deeper than that. We do have bigger, deeper bass traps in our own space. Obviously, we'd expect anyone looking to DIY to build according to their space requirements. Every type of room has different needs, which in most cases, you'll need basstraps deeper than the sample used in this video. Hope this helps clarify!
@mendez77054ify4 ай бұрын
Is 4 inches thick the recommended?
@youtubewatcher20065 ай бұрын
Great video. Is it a good idea to wrap acoustic panels that are already built in plastic to prevent fibres from escaping, meaning that the entire fabric is covered by thin plastic tarp? Or does the plastic barrier have to be on the inside - between fabric and rockwool?
@neptuneaudiospace5 ай бұрын
The plastic wrap should be between the fabric and rockwool.
@cybernessful5 ай бұрын
Total unscientific BS about type of fabrics to use. You just admitted you have no clue what you're talking about and have no credibility as a manufacturer. You can use any type of fabrics you want, all of them are transparent for the sound audible to humans. Get some school level physics classes.
@Fubuki435 ай бұрын
Your videos are incredibly well made. Thank you! I would however like to say that the panels and this bass trap that you showcase are not really deep enough to do any real absorption in the low frequencies. The thicker, the better!
@neptuneaudiospace5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! We only used this as an example to show how these are built. Obviously, we'd expect anyone looking to DIY to build according to their space requirements. Every type of room has different needs, which in most cases, you'll need basstraps deeper than the sample used in this video. Maybe this can actually be another topic for another day to talk about how to treat different types of rooms.
@gregjacksun5 ай бұрын
El Duderino - if you're not into the whole "brevity" thing.
@mirothedjplaylist5 ай бұрын
Amazon sales wedge pillows for queen-size bed pre made bass traps basically, also keeps my pillows from falling
@collinscassel5 ай бұрын
How did you make those brackets!
@neptuneaudiospace5 ай бұрын
Check out our 'Building Tips' Playlist on our homepage. You'll find the video showing how we made the brackets.
@gregredd53745 ай бұрын
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@guilhermerosarodrigues77485 ай бұрын
How do you attach it on the wall?
@emnesia63915 ай бұрын
Duct tape obviously
@spudpud-T672 ай бұрын
9 inch nails
@NevadaSYSTEMmusic5 ай бұрын
Is there any practical way to do this without a table saw?
@neptuneaudiospace5 ай бұрын
There are several other ways you could make similar-looking bass traps without using a table saw. We will eventually put some videos together showing how to do this using some really simple tools.
@azavoiceamazighfdoux5 ай бұрын
Good job 👍
@domasad32296 ай бұрын
Hey dude, great videos all along! Do you plan on making one about diffusers by chance?
@neptuneaudiospace6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Will make diffuser contents eventually. Will make sure to do this for both Skyline and Quadratic.
@s.f.48966 ай бұрын
Hi there, does somebody know,if the wood fibre insulation called : "steico flex" works as well or maybe better than rockwool ? Thx for your reply ✌🏻
@farfymcdoogle34616 ай бұрын
Love your vids! Please make one focused on different wall/ceiling mounting techniques 🙏
@neptuneaudiospace6 ай бұрын
Noted! We'll definitely put content together for this. Thanks for the amazing suggestion!
@farfymcdoogle34616 ай бұрын
Thank you! Got a video on the best fabric options?
@neptuneaudiospace6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! We're yet to put that video together. You gave us a reminder.
@Nashville_Cat6 ай бұрын
You deserve many subscribers. Great video!
@neptuneaudiospace6 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for the motivation!
@anhellehna68586 ай бұрын
What about woodwool
@neptuneaudiospace6 ай бұрын
Not sure about the effectiveness of wood wool compared to these industry standards but would be interesting to look into it and do some experiments.