hello! cool video and cool track ! would you recommend Mixbus to Ardour ?
@nedogled10 күн бұрын
Definitely! Ardour is great and I've used it in the past, but getting VSTs for it that work on Linux is difficult. Mixbus comes with most of what I need, and they've got a couple more paid XT and AVA plugins that work flawlessly on Linux. Check out their discount around Black Friday/Cyber Monday coming up :)
@bubuAudio10 күн бұрын
@nedogled thanks man !
@bubuAudio11 күн бұрын
happy to find someone that produces on linux !! 🎉
@nedogled10 күн бұрын
It's still underrated after all these years, but it really does get the job done for me without any problems at all :)
@bubuAudio11 күн бұрын
nice video, man !! thank you! a lot of good tips !! 🤓
@nedogled10 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@vibetone35520 күн бұрын
The only thing l hate about this set up is all the wires everywhere, does my head in l like to try and hide them best l can,
@nedogled19 күн бұрын
Indeed... the cables seem to be a necessary evil 😁
@berkut631323 күн бұрын
Good to have you back with a music-focused video among the constant stream of synthfluencer G.A.S./Gear Lust.
@nedogled23 күн бұрын
Thanks! And yeah, tell me about it... I can't seem to follow a hobby on KZbin these days without being constantly sold something. It's refreshing to see (and produce) something that doesn't lead to lusting over the next shiny.
@nedogled23 күн бұрын
What else would you like to see in my next dissecting/mixing video?
@AlpaySahingoezАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed watching it. The Model 12 looks interesting.
@nedogledАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I've also made a video about the Model 12 if you'd like to know more about how I use it kzbin.info/www/bejne/noqTlYyHiJmnqbs
@manofsound9098Ай бұрын
Can I add some helpful tips? Finally, I am not alone. My entire studio is all hardware. I write music for today's TV commercials, podcasts and broadcasting. PC upgrades, software subscriptions and audio interfaces cost more and more. Hardware is truly the way to go. I left the Daw community in 2018 and never looked back! At the end of your video, you asked for some tips. Here is my take. TIP#1 When doing hard disk recording I still use the Roland VSR 880 for hard disk mastering to a Tascam SD-20M. This way you always have a backup, make changes and cleanup mistakes on the fly. TIP#2 Use a Mio XL for a midi router. You can use it without a PC. I can route over 11 workstations and synths with it without any data loss or lag. TIP#3 Use a rackmount USB Porter like SEDNA 13 port USB hub. Many of today's synths can run on use power. This saves Power strips and outlets. TIP#4 A good reliable mixer like the Tascam Model 12, 24 however I use the Mackie Onyx 24. TIP#5 Sequencers. The easiest to use sequencer ever was the Ensoniq line of workstations like VFX-SD However they are no longer in business. My #1 choice today is the Yamaha MODX+ workstations. My seconds is the Akai MPC Key 61. Basically, looping and chaining each pattern together and mixdown to an MP3 or WAV. (These are all stand-alone) No Daw needed. TIP #6 Use a USB noise filter and also use Ferrite Core Bead Choke Rings on your audio and USB cables. This really eliminates noise. TIP#7 (VERY IMPORTANT) If you intended to share or sell your music online, absolutely be sure to register ALL your music with the ISRC. You can acquire you own ISRC number online. This protects your music from unauthorized use. When My music is online, all my music is registered. If someone uses one of my songs in a KZbin video, I get paid royalties. When radio or TV stations play my music, I get royalties and also my music is protected. If you upload your own music to music sharing platforms to sell your music, this is a MUST! NEDOGLED - Thanks so much for this video!💫
@nedogledАй бұрын
Wow man thanks for all the great tips! You've taken the DAWLESS approach to its peak methinks :) Definitely a couple of tips in there I'll need to try out myself. Thanks again for sharing
@KurtLorenzАй бұрын
❤❤❤
@Yong.JАй бұрын
I've been getting tired of having to update plugins on my Mac every time after a macOS update, but if you're using a DAW-based system, you probably have to do that. I prefer a DAW-less setup for sketching, composing, and/or live, and I only use my DAW for mastering.
@nedogledАй бұрын
Exactly!
@artemvsprime2 ай бұрын
I really wanted to get one but unfortunately it’s too heavy to lug around, so went with the box plus arturia keystep, a nice compact alternative that is portable! 🙂
@nedogled2 ай бұрын
Inded it's quite hefty, although Elektron does make a nice carrying case.
@talentohumano18592 ай бұрын
Of Course You Can. How You Suppose Chopin Created His Eternal Music?
@Stechamppn2 ай бұрын
I got a model 24 and to me all there boards could do with a screen jack output....where u could also plug a lead in to a computer ...where you then can see it all easier....and it have extra stuff... no what i mean
@DorzakZitro2 ай бұрын
some years ago i sold my digitone to get the keys version and im absolutely glad i did. it's my favorite instrument ever. shout-out to my fellow digikeys lovers ✌️
@nedogled2 ай бұрын
Indeed! It seems that with the current big analog polysynth obession, the Digitone Keys goes largely unnoticed. But I can't imagine myself parting with mine ever :)
@Rastetah84722 ай бұрын
I love this!!!! Hate Daws!
@syncMixer3 ай бұрын
I agree with you on the screen. I bought a Model 12 to try Dawless and the tiny screen and obscure error messages put me off. I might try the DP-24SD next.
@carbilicon3 ай бұрын
It's good to have a 'brain' in your setup; it provides for less clutter. Nice one.
@lionra45233 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mannyytuarte46663 ай бұрын
A bit of a newbie question. When using the effects, can you record the track with the effect on? Or are the effects relegated to all tracks and not actually on the track but only for a final mix? Not sure if I am wording this correctly - if I wanted a delay on a vocal and just a reverb on a guitar can that be done?
@nedogled3 ай бұрын
The effects are only sent to the master output and recorded on the stereo mixdown. When you record individual tracks, they will be recorded dry, even if effects were applied to it. You can't have different effects per track, either. You select an effect that will be song-wide and then decide how much of it to apply to each track. Here's the full list of effects: 1. HALL1 (default), 2. HALL2, 3. ROOM1, 4. ROOM2, 5. PLATE, 6. STUDIO, 7. LIVE, 8. DELAY1, 9. DELAY2, 10. PING PONG, 11. CHORUS, 12. FLANGER, 13. DELAY+HALL1, 14. DELAY+HALL2, 15. CHORUS+HALL1, 16. CHORUS+HALL2 I don't ever use the effects on it, I think they're there just to sort of simulate what your final mix might sound like, or to do some minimal tweaking when playing live.
@5cttyo5033 ай бұрын
This is the video I’ve been looking for🫡
@Calamindir3 ай бұрын
For your key triggering issue, try blowing out the keys with a can of compressed air. Sounds like 'Key Chatter' which effects mechanical comptuer keyboards (which this is using the same type of key switch)
@nedogled3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I've sprayed it with some contact spray and it seems the situation is better now, although I might need another spray on a couple of them. Chatter is exactly what the issue is like :)
@philt773 ай бұрын
I have an old analogue mixer. Can i record multiple tracks out of that. Mackie onyx. It has recording out 1-4 and 5-12. Its like scart cable thing. I have Minilogue xd and digitakt. But no computer. Can i get a recorder of some sort or buy model 12 and firget bout the Onyx?
@nedogled3 ай бұрын
Hmm I'm guessing there must be recorders in the market like that, but I don't think they would be much cheaper than the Model 12, which provides a more streamlined experience being a mixer + recorder in one.
@protocolmystics28183 ай бұрын
Is the only difference in the limited edition the color scheme?
@nedogled3 ай бұрын
That, and an additional bank of presets. Although I'm sure you could find a way to load those presets on the regular Typhon if you wanted to.
@jaffajenkins3 ай бұрын
HELLO DuDe ... ... LOVE YOUR Video as its a very similar story to mine and now after 5 years going Dawless ive finished my studio ... With ONE , Exeption .... finding the RIGHT Mixer .... Ive been useing my old DJM 750 From my djing days connecting to a YAMAHA MG166cx mixer Which i LOVE ...... But its now starting to dye as i bought it 2nd hand 6 years ago and now is about 15 years old , the trouble is i cant seem to find a mixer that has the Yamahas Warmth and Smooth sound ,, i bought a ZOOM L-12 and after 3 days Sold it as it was COLD , With NO Personality im about to watch your vid on the Tascam Modal 12 as i love the sound of my Tascam Dr-05 Can you relate to this Sinario SiR ..
@nedogled3 ай бұрын
Hey man! Love your channel :) Just had a listen to a couple of your acid delicacies and I'm really enjoying them! Have you put together a release on Bandcamp maybe? Regarding the mixer, I'm trying to drive and saturate everything on the instrument side, so the preamps on my Model 12 are not a big factor in recording... plus I add a lot of saturation during mixing :D Hope it works for your too!
@GunnardDoboze4 ай бұрын
Thank you for making these videos.....It's almost impossible for anyone under 40 to conceive of using just hardware to make music....Great Videos!
@nedogled3 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! It does require a bit of $, but so does any hoby. Once people get passed the "laptop phase" of making music, they'll discover a magical new world outside the DAW :)
@GunnardDoboze4 ай бұрын
Yes, you can, SSL series G.....Studer tape machine......and when it all breaks you can fly a tech in from Germany to fix it (the tape machine). In all seriousness it is indeed possible....
@joelpoitras62264 ай бұрын
I feel the same. Went to DAWs in the 2000s, it was lagging and frustrating, so i went back to my 16 track hardrive recorder. In 2020, i upgraded to a 32 bit PC and gave DAWs another try. Still problems. Always glitches, latency, clicks&pop. Kept playing with buffer sizes etc to maximize effiency, but always ended up frustrated. I record real instruments, guitars, bass, acoustic drum set etc., and it was always a hassle and i went back to my 16 track recorder. My 16 track hardrive recorder was old, from the early/mid 2000s and there was no USB connection. So i could not share or send seperate files and i had to use the left&right output to export, or use the onboard CD burner. Also , i had to scroll the screen menu all the time to adjust an eq setting on a channel. The model 12 was appealing to me with its conventional mixer lay-out. I'll admit that the Model 12 is still not as easy as it looks. The solo ,afl, pfl , and monitor/headphone setting can get frustrating sometimes when you can't hear a sound because of a missed press button etc. Felt like i was stupid for awhile watching tutorials and still not getting sounds. I later found my Model 12 is problematic and it was not me. Sometimes i get no signal. I power off and on again, and boom the channels opened up. I always need to power it on, power it off, then power it on again to get it to work, but it don't seem to get worst. I'm aware of the sensative power switch that fails on many people, so i bought a very short extension cord with a built-in switch to avoid using the model 12's switch. Thanks for your great videos.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Hmm those are some good points. I haven't had trouble with the switch and I flip it pretty often. Maybe I'll just switch it on using the power strip.
@gwugluud4 ай бұрын
Having it positioned vertically is a good idea. The more space, the merrier.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Necessity is the mother of invention 😁
@eliotisabet-muller34044 ай бұрын
thanks for this video man, I was trying to understand the basics for a dawless setup but I couldn't find a good video that explained all of what you said. keep up the great work man. and, +1 follower ; )
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Thank you and glad you found the video helpful! 😁
@Geekraver4 ай бұрын
You convinced me to pick one up and sell my regular Digitone + Akai MPK Plus. I'll miss the arp but if I really need it I have other sequencers. Just got it today and look forward to using it.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Excellent! It would make a lot of sense for the Arp on the Digitone to work on MIDI as well in a future update... been waiting on that for years 😅
@interlooper4 ай бұрын
Great stuff! Have a good one!
@steveweilhart23594 ай бұрын
appreciate your dedication to this type set-up but the advantages of a computer and a DAW far out ways not to use in music production! IMO
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
I used to think the same way, but my output of finished songs increased exponentially since leaving the DAW, while being a much more enjoyable prices! Still, each to their own 😁
@votremain4 ай бұрын
omg that guitar!!!
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
😁 I've done a whole video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJezpZuXj5d7pLs
@frankschneider71904 ай бұрын
why this horrible backgroundmusic???.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Ouch. It's the most popular track off my latest album, and I figured if people could stand my personality, they could also stand my music 😬 I've got some more chill stuff here that might be more up your alley kzbin.info/www/bejne/paa3o6F8fbeFg68
@velanche4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your excellent videos. I've watched this one and the one on your dawless setup several times. Having the Model 12, which I'm slowly learning to use, set up in the angle you have it immediately inspired me to do the same on my studiio desk, and happily I got it to fit. I've been plugging in gear during the last few days, with a few more coming. I don't have the gear yet attached with MIDI cables; not done that before, but just got a MIDI thru box (also per your suggestion) and it's waiting for inputs. I agree that the tiny screen is probably gonna be less useful. I have low vision, and it's just really hard to see without looking up close with magnification....not good, ergonomically. That said, looking forward to digging in more. Appreciate the knowledge shared!
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Thanks, man! It's great to hear you found my videos useful, I hope they assist you in making a ton of fun music :) Let me know if you have any other specific questions that I may not have covered in my videos. Enjoy!
@velanche4 ай бұрын
@@nedogled Thanks much! My journey is just getting started. I do have one question: a friend of mine shared with me a video of a device called a multi clock. I guess that some people have problems trying to record straight to a DAW due to sync issues among different instruments. I take it that you have little trouble with sync issues when recording to the Model 12's card before moving the stems to a DAW? I have not tried it out yet and I just got a cheap MIDI thru box a few days ago. What say you?
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Hmm never actually heard of a multiclock. I guess if you were recording to a DAW, you would send the MIDI to the audio interface, but it's been a long time since I've gone down that road. But yeah, no issues recording multitracks to the Model 12 and transferring them later to the DAW. It's always possible to make micro adjustments to the BPM in the DAW, but I've never had to do that. Haven't really had to think about sync since I got the MIDI thru box several years ago :) As long as there's a master instrument that's sending the clock to other insturments, everyone will be on the same page.
@velanche4 ай бұрын
@@nedogled All of that is good to know! I have a newer audio interface, the RME UCX II, that has MIDI IN/OUT and a "word clock,' but it's so new that it'll take me a bit to wrap my head around it. Of course, the Model 12 also has the same. I am learning to use the Digitaltakt, and thinking that it might be the master for my MIDI gear to stay in time while the data records to the Model 12. I think as far as raw data recording, maybe doing the Model 12, transferring the stems to a DAW, and making sure they line up, might be the most efflicent for now. One other question: you mentioned that you used the Harrison 32 as a DAW. Do you have a video on that, or otherwise, curious as to what you find useful over the other usual suspects. Thanks again!
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
The mixing part in Harrison Mixbus can be very chaotic and/or boring to an outside observer, but it's definitely a video I'd like to make! Just need to figure out a good way to present it in a useful way, so I'll be doing that for the music I'm currently making :)
@jamman64 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I want to do similar set up like yours. Using DAW at the moment only but want to add hardware instruments. It would be great if you could do a video on how you actually record from start to finish... Take us through your recording process... For example when you record keyboard part is it going through mixer into DAW? And I don't really understand how the midi clock works... You have a lot of cables too! 🙏 Cheers brother!
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm making new music now, but the process is so... chaotic, that it's difficult to document coherently. I'll definitiely give it a try in an upcoming video :) In the meantime, you can get an idea by watching my live jams kzbin.info/aero/PL2uJ7rGY6VogLFagiTSAbXqYkcEisKj9V I don't record anything to the DAW, everything is recorded to the Tascam Model 12. Most of my keyboard parts are sequenced, but I do play a few of the key melodies live. The MIDI box has 1 input and several outputs. So I send the Digitone's MIDI OUT into the box, and then MIDI cables go from the box to each of the instruments. Of course, the MIDI channels need to be setup up on each instrument to match the channel that the Digitone is sending, but once done I don't really think about it anymore. And yeah, if you plan to go down this road... it might be wise to buy a spool of cables and solder your connectors depending on the length you'll need, instead of how I did it 😅
Not only could you record all your inputs via an audio interface, you have the option of recording to your DAW via this exact mixer. It’s pretty wild how flexible this thing is.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Indeed! I use it a ton, and I'm probably not even scratching half its features 😁
@robertgarvansnyder46654 ай бұрын
@@nedogled one advantage I think of recording multitrack on device vs to a DAW, is I don’t think you can write any EQ/Compressor changes to the DAW, the way you can choose pre/post onboard. I’m in the same boat as you, the possibilities are pretty endless.
@GoldynChyld3 ай бұрын
@@robertgarvansnyder4665I have ran into this issue using my MPC to the Model 12, to Ableton. Beautiful mixer just bought it. However, the faders, panning and EQ do absolutely nothing when I record to Ableton. Is there any workaround on this? If so, then this mixer is absolutely 10/10. I JUST need to figure this one thing out lol. Highly disappointed if not
@robertgarvansnyder46653 ай бұрын
@@GoldynChyld unfortunately, you cannot record EQ/compressor movements to Ableton. I believe you CAN record them to SD card on the mixer, so a workaround could be to record internally, and then bounce the stems to Ableton. I believe Tascam added the functionality you want to the new flagship Model 2400, but I haven’t looked into it in detail.
@robertgarvansnyder46653 ай бұрын
@@GoldynChyld actually, I just watched another video mentioning that the EQ/Compression on multitrack USB channels is “borrowed from the Model 12”, so you may be in luck!! There’s probably a setting to activate/bypass it though. My Model 16 doesn’t have this, so I’m no help.
@robertgarvansnyder46654 ай бұрын
Would love to see how you use the Model 12. I've got a Model 16 at the core of my setup. One question: are you integrating any sends from the mixer? If so, how are you setting them up?
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Hey, so I've done a whole video on how I use the Model 12 kzbin.info/www/bejne/noqTlYyHiJmnqbs The workaround I use for sends is that I send some of the channels to the sub mix, which goes into my sampler (Roland SP-404 Mk2) so I can quickly record/sample anything I want, add effects and bring it back into the mixer. Hope that helps!
@gtberg4 ай бұрын
You have too much equipment! How do you do final mastering? in the DAW? How would I do that DAWLESS? I am like you, I want to stay out of a DAW, and I mean completely.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Yep! I record everything to a multitrack recorder, but then I mix and master in a DAW. I suppose you could just record the stereo out and then send it to someone for mastering, or use a mastering tool like CloudBounce affiliate.cloudbounce.com/idevaffiliate/idevaffiliate.php?id=4338 In that case you can skip the DAW
@scowlsmcjowls26264 ай бұрын
Pawless dower
@alienzardsketter.90764 ай бұрын
Musical masturbation is DAW , I like the real thing ,,,,touch and feel it in real life ,,, cant stand musical porno .
@index77874 ай бұрын
A fellow Bigitone!!!
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Feels like it's the best kept secret in Elektron's lineup 🤫
@AtomisticNoise4 ай бұрын
Just picked one up last week and I'm finding that it has all the right features for my creative workflow. MIDI sync is a key feature for me. I can sync all my gear in a MIDI loop, record myself jamming, go back and redo a track if needed, such as refining a performance on the TR-6S and then use the VAMP feature to find short loops that are worthy of keeping in a final mix. I'm just learning about the VAMP feature, but I would really like if I could jump between the vamp sections as opposed to letting the track continue until the next vamp (because the vamps are the "good" parts of the jam"). At first I had an problem with the board not having an actual FX loop, but now I'm seeing that using a channel for FX return allows you to record the effect return as a separate stereo track which is actually pretty useful. A typical FX return might not have the routing ability to record on the fly without ultimately sending it to a stereo channel. Also, I tend to think I need more tracks than I really do. 8 tracks for instruments and 2 for effects is actually enough for most songs I work on.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
I haven't tried adding MIDI to my Model 12, but I bet it opens up a whole new world of possibilities! Indeed the VAMP feature is a great addition, plagued by a subpar interface IMO
@ilovehardgroove4 ай бұрын
Using a notepad in 2024. Pay attention kids. Oh. You aren't even listening... Still looking at your phone... Sigh.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
😂😁
@ultrajayme4 ай бұрын
once i got a reel to reel, it's hard to use tape saturation plugs.
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Man, why you gotta stoke my G.A.S. like that 😁
@ultrajayme4 ай бұрын
Haha
@flowmaka4 ай бұрын
Great tutorial brother! Love your setup. Music seems to sound better going through circuits sometimes instead of strictly in the box. There’s an organic sound that tends to be pleasing to the ears. Have you considered any of the Akai MPC X, MPC Live, or MPC One as a drum machine? It’s also a capable sequencer with time shift, humanize, and other functions to slightly make the drums play behind, before, or right on the beat. It has a DAW type recorder along with sample and stem import and export. I use the MPC One and it controls and syncs with my hardware synths. It will definitely save you space! Peace and Blessings bro!
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I have indeed looked into the MPCs, but they've always seemed too big and bulky for my limited space. Other than that, they seem extremely capable as the center of a setup. All the best to you brother!
@flowmaka4 ай бұрын
@@nedogled Awesome! Your setup is completely amazing brother! Keep up the good work!
@EdificeofEchoes4 ай бұрын
yes!
@pabloarellano73594 ай бұрын
👏👏👏... gonna miss your content but tottaly understand the reasons... have a good time !
@nedogled4 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's great to see people are enjoying my videos, and it gives me motivation to get back into it at some point :)
@EdificeofEchoes4 ай бұрын
im subbing just because I love that Background music!!!