what sad is they made these for almost 30 years and then for some dumb reason they quit and went to these turkish pills of junk that dont last 90,000 miles and are more wire than anything else
@seanman6541Күн бұрын
I drove past the aftermath of a 2000-2006 Tahoe that rear ended a stopped semi at 70+ MPH while in my 2002 Tahoe. The engine was were the center console was supposed to be. No way the driver survived. To be fair, no vehicle can keep a person alive in a 70 MPH rear end collision with a semi.
@mexicanspecКүн бұрын
Why didn't the crash dummy have a seat belt on?
@nathanmcdonald610Күн бұрын
Back in those days "safety" was merely a suggestion, today it's a mandate.
@nathanmcdonald610Күн бұрын
Lol "40mph is a ultra high speed test". What a crock of shit, that's the lower end of the speed limit in any given multi lane city street.
@ronbrock6153Күн бұрын
I was suprised to see both quarters bucked behind the door. Drivers side makes sense but the right side tells of a very weak structure.
@BigEightiesNewWave2 күн бұрын
Good design the engine/trans dropped down away from occupants. Need that considering the engine is almost inside the cab.
@Timico10002 күн бұрын
Offset. Nice!
@donw39122 күн бұрын
An unrestrained person of any weight in that situation will most likely be a fatality. I would love to see this exact test done...but with seat belts properly used. All in all the car itself held up pretty good it appears.
@aloysiusbelisarius99922 күн бұрын
I was involved in a collision with exactly this kind of car...in fact, right about the same time this test was done, give or take a month. That was my fault, for making a left turn too late with too sluggish a car: A '79 Buick Electra with a valve malfunction. The '87 Celica that hit me took out my right-rear corner, the tail light on that side, and caved in the bumper (an actual bumper in that year) in the right corner. The Celica had its right-front fender sheared off. Being that I was still relatively fresh in driving, I was hating on myself for weeks.
@joec17742 күн бұрын
Injury recordings on this unrestrained dummy are fatal, but actually still better, remarkably, than many cars of the 80s where the dummy WAS restrained. Wow
@sw20922 күн бұрын
Sure, it failed the FMVSS HIC and other tests, but that wasn't necessarily the car's fault - the dummy was unrestrained. It was set up to fail and to test the dummy itself. If I walk into a solid wall at 5mph, it's going to hurt. If I walk into a solid wall at 35mph, which is happening here because with no seatbelt or restraint I'm still traveling at 35mph even as the car stops, it's going to hurt a hell of a lot more. It's simple physics. You will then eat the steering wheel and probably headbutt the windscreen, sending the HIC off the chart. The same as it would in any car without restraints (before airbags). The 1987 Toyota Celica may still be a deathtrap, but this test didn't tell me that. It just reminded me to wear my seatbelt.
@mikel28872 күн бұрын
I like the cutout of the hood. Nice to see how the engine compartment braces fold up
@afraid2crashrc2 күн бұрын
Seems most commenters are not taking into account that only lap belts are being used and the vehicle is hitting a solid, immovable object, where the transfer of energy is much greater than if it were crashing into a real world object.
@Claroboy9113 күн бұрын
Impressive
@CatBear274 күн бұрын
Wow... How can someone open the doors after that?!😬 The doors are electric, are they not?
@chrisak492 күн бұрын
Normally the door button is an electronic actuator that releases the door latch to open the door. Every car that uses this has a mechanical back up that allows you to pull a lever to physically open the door in the event power goes out.
@frothe424 күн бұрын
I wonder why the side airbags inflated as well?
@C-Crystal20024 күн бұрын
This car is famous in movies Always crashed
@frothe424 күн бұрын
I don't like that the seat back reclined.
@benrodriguez49054 күн бұрын
Yaaay
@andriiserpukhov4545 күн бұрын
No knees and sides airbags?Why
@ivertranes25165 күн бұрын
That steering column movement! Yikes!!! I thought by 1985, they weren't supposed to do that!! Then again, this IS a mid seventies platform.
@pl56242 күн бұрын
Trucks didnt have to meet car standards...
@BigLisaFan5 күн бұрын
Well, that sure isn’t going to buff out. Just think, we drove those things and felt safe in them.
@HarvestmanMan5 күн бұрын
Fortunately most of these rusted away before they ever had a chance of wrecking.
@jonathangodbout66455 күн бұрын
Only made Dodge Magnum for 2 yrs... 1978 and 1979.
@donw39125 күн бұрын
I would love to see this go against a mid size car of the late 80s/early 90s. And up against one of Fords current van offerings...t bone...rear end and 30% offset on each. The first thing i noticed was the trans crossmember on the LH side the bolts sheared it appears. The frame failed at the better points if it had to fail. I would be curious to see how the 85 F series trucks did in these tests given the frames were very similar up front.
@americanrambler49725 күн бұрын
Compared to results you will see from current generation Ford Transit vans doing this same test, this is a horrible result. If nothing else, the seat belt restraint system was woefully inadequate. When you examine this from the viewpoint of what was better than an Econoline from say 1973 and 1965, (This is an 1985 model year van.) the passenger safety improvement is quite substantial. You can see the huge benefit made when ford moved the driver and passenger seating position from in front of the engine and front wheels to behind them. Then adding the additional crush space up front from the preceding generation really improved occupant safety. With the current Transit Van, this impact instead of being a serious injury crash event has become just an annoying inconvenience.
@mexicanspec5 күн бұрын
I wonder why the seat belts didn't hold the passengers in place.
@westhavenor95135 күн бұрын
That face plant into the steering wheel is going to leave a bruise!
@nagosnell6 күн бұрын
Thanks for posting these. I don't understand the data; is this fatal for the driver? I thought it wasn't wearing a seat belt at first.
@alanmorrison35986 күн бұрын
My wife and I owned and drove a 1978 Econoline 150 Window Van with the 300 cu in 6 cylinder engine and manual 3 speed with overdrive floor mounted shifter for 150,000 miles!! I'd gladly buy a new one today. The trick is not to run into fixed barriers at 35 mph! Small cars of the day would have been no match for this great van in a crash!
@cgreenfield66556 күн бұрын
I can bet 80% of people in the world think they'd be safer in one of these than a newer one.
@thecrazyfarmboy2 күн бұрын
They are so clueless 😂
@milfordcivic67556 күн бұрын
Most pre-1995 vehicles without airbags have sub-par crash protection. Volvo, Mercedes and full size American cars were about the safest you could buy at the time.
@Shakerhood694 күн бұрын
Some mid 1970s GM cars had air bags too.
@jacobford91686 күн бұрын
When you see both of your dream, vehicles get destroyed.
@parodylover9996 күн бұрын
why worse than other tests of the same one?
@Captain-ql9te6 күн бұрын
Ignition source looks to be the the heat from the exhaust manifolds on the Impala. Hard to tell, kinetic force of stressing metal components could light that much petrol off easily as well.
@compu856 күн бұрын
What are you using to upscale these films? It works quite well.
@AntiZOGZone6 күн бұрын
Ford is Junk
@markbrookes65576 күн бұрын
Things did not look well for the dummy driver.
@jamesengland74616 күн бұрын
Everything worked together to attack the driver. Great.
@TreyMarsh-u1k6 күн бұрын
Who's here in 2024?
@jamesengland74616 күн бұрын
Today I saw a newer generation of this van, a dually! but with no trailer hitch! ???
@jessemurray17576 күн бұрын
They don't make them like they used to....and thank God for that.
@gabesmath1056 күн бұрын
the newer ones of this one aren't much better
@davetech12697 күн бұрын
Thing is a lil tank
@pennywise81827 күн бұрын
My father had a "78 Magnum GT with a 400,4 bbl,HD 727......He used it as a winter work car till the unibody rusted away......Then he junked it out...Kept the engine,trans,fender flares and GT specific rims....Still has all the parts to this day....Good vid.
@Nismorotor78 күн бұрын
Remember, this test was made at 25mph. Probably the reason of this test was for other purposes different from the one at 40mph.
@Druze_Tito8 күн бұрын
What happened to the seats? They reclined back completely. Is that normal?
@caumsettpark8 күн бұрын
Volvo is one of the few manufacturers to offer seatbelt pretensioners in all of their vehicles sold in the United States. This important safety feature increases seatbelt tension in warranted situations. It keeps the belted person in place. Don't buy a vehicle without checking to see if this feature is offered in ALL seating positions!
@glanzera8 күн бұрын
By the early 2000's pretty much every car sold in the US has pretensioners on the front seats as it was essentially impossible to achieve a 'Good' frontal rating from the IIHS without them. But yes, only recently in the last 4-5 years has it become more commonplace for most other brands to install rear outboard pretensioners.
@bassyboo8 күн бұрын
legit every car has pretentioners what are you on about
@caumsettpark8 күн бұрын
@@bassyboo Unfortunately you are incorrect. Very few vehicles have standard rear seat belt pretensioners. That's really a shame, as the rear seat is where most children are seated, and obviously, they would benefit the most from their placement. If you are reading this thread, have children, and are shopping for a new vehicle; make the dealership prove to you that your intended vehicle has standard seat belt pretensioners in ALL seating positions.
@glanzera8 күн бұрын
@@caumsettpark lol better avoid the Volvo XC40/C40 and EX30 then because they don't have pretensioners in the center rear seats.
@caumsettpark8 күн бұрын
@@glanzera Thank you, I appreciate the information. Your point is well taken, as the center seat position is where most parents would put a child in a booster seat. Your stated lack of center position tensioners in these vehicles is especially troubling in that aspect.