It seems the G25 wheels use alloy nipples. What are the durability of carbon rims and alloy nipples? I recently had to change all the spokes in my Prime carbon wheelset, due to corrosion of the alloy nipples. That was a costly affair

Dear John, how do you find your truing stand? Looking for a replacement but can't afford the Park Tool versions. Not a full time wheelbuilder, just for regular repairs, thanks. Great video as always, enjoyed the follow-up too.

I don't think ratchet is supreme to good pawl hubs. And I actually like the sound of pawls more

Thank you for the follow-up 😊

Would you expect the G24 to be as good, fancy something not as deep

Has every bike KZbinr been sent this shifter and derailleur (it has too many parts missing to be a groupset)? Wheeltop are certainly spending lots on marketing

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Freeze the bearings and they'll go in very nicely .😛

Excellent video Jon. I like my handbuilts, always have done.

Break squak is not a bad thing unless it impacts brake performance. Saves you from installing a bell.

Thanks, I'ma stick to fully mechanical 1x10 and 2x8

that one was rather easy to see coming - roadshifters where here and MTB shifters too - right

Sooner eat worms than buy anything from China. 🤮

Non removable battery is the deal breaker here👎. Saying it's a patent issue for preventing removable battery it's like saying one car manufacturer can put a "patent" on on cars with 4 wheels...???

Great explanation professor. Much appreciated.

Thanks for this very well-made and informative review

Super interested in that. Could rival SRAM RED XPLR 13s groupset that costs £2,500 without cranks & discs…!! WEIGHT woulda been interesting tho! At least comparing it with the road version’s weight! ROTOR also make 13s cassette.

Jon I humbly suggest you stop using the wheels. I suggest you long term lend them to fellow Ribble Valley Dweller called Dave! Kind regards, Dave. Ribble Valley. 😃

Greate video! Anything wrong with muc-off grease or is it just unnecessary expensive?

I wouldn’t bother upgrading to dt Swiss, had my canyon 6 months never had it in rain, done just over 1000km and had to get the wheel bearings changed in back wheel. Good news canyon paid for repair 😊

EXCELLENT!!!

I was interested in these for CX, in the end, i went for the the hunt gravel carbon 35 because the price was similar and i thought that if something happen, iwould be easier to get spares from hunt than ican… so the choice was down to risk management

YOU SHOULD BE A HOLYWOOD ACTOR😂😂😂💪💪💪man u make me Laugh

I have used ICAN wheels for many years. FL40, G25 (650), G24, and now Vortex. All have and continue to work well.

I weigh 100kg and ride year round in upstate NY in all kinds of weather. I use ICAN wheels on everything but my fat bikes. I also use their frames. I would highly recommend their products. I have never had an issue with anything I've purchased from them and they have always been very responsive when I've had questions.

Your deep dive videos are fantastic. Thank you for your work!

I was waiting for this one. Thank you

I'm pretty conflicted. On one hand, this review seems honest and is in fact very thorough. On the other hand, the company sent you a pair deliberately for tests, which could mean they haven't skimped on the QC. But on the other-other hand, I've personally used 2 Chinese carbon frames for a gravel bike and a downcountry (this one takes regular thrashing) and can't say a bad word about them. Regardless, I think it's a good wake up call for big brands like Hunt or Elite (or maybe even Trek and Scott, they also sell wheelset under their own sub-brands) that they can't hike up the prices as they please and have to touch some grass once a while and be competitive. This may change however once China gets hit by increased custom rates (they still get special treatment for being a "developing country" but reality is they surpassed EU/USA in some areas and are just abusing the system). Great review and I'm considering buying myself a set of ICANs!

Would be interested to know how well this shifts with a smaller cassette - if its designed for 51 teeth does that compromise the shift quality if you’re only using say 11-34 teeth?

Excellent honest review as always dude.. I must I do trust your reviews and opinions. Thankyou for your great work and channel 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍

I have used these wheels for two years now, and would recommend them.(5000Km +) I will buy these again. They have been used for bikepacking races (Race around Rwanda, BikingMan and Gravel Birds Portugal =super dusty and dry) Two issues have arisen. Firstly the fine dry dust of Africa has got through the bearing seals and into the bearings. They are not terrible but they will need to be replaced at some stage. This is probably not going to be an issue in the UK. Secondly, the rear rim has a rough matt finish which has stained from dust and the odd drop of oil that's dripped off the chain. No amount of cleaning can get rid of the marks. Again its not terrible, you only notice the staining on close inspection. I was thinking that on my next set I might spray a coat of car matt lacquer to seal up the surface. I've probably hammered these wheels more than anybody out there and they are still true and super strong. If you are thinking of a new set of wheels just buy ICAN.

I‘ve tried the code in the EU Warehouse for Germany, but is not accepted 😢. What I‘m doing wrong, or is it only for worldwide order?

OK! In the early 90's, I was annoyed with people who complained about the expanding cassettes beyond 5. "Eddie won five on five" was the mantra. So, this may sound a little hypocritical of me now. But, I think it just needs to stop now. 12, maybe 13 is more than enough. I have three bikes with SRAM. Two with a mullet setup. The range is crazy.

Just took delivery of my G22 wheelset. Can't wait to give them a go. Thanks to Jon for the deep dive reviews!

Damn, already purchased a set based on the content/ comments from the last video, shame to not support and use the code

Are there 14 speed chains to use with it or will a 12 speed work?

Do you have any rear hub rebuild videos on your channel? Including the free hub maintenance?

I am not buying ICAN G25 wheelset, as I am waiting for your video review on Elite wheels. Very nice video review (=

A couple of reasons why I didn't buy these, one being the $190 shipping charge to Korea (although they did say it should only be $82 when I contacted them, but it continued to show up as $190). The other being the tubeless tape and valves not installed for customers. Yes, people will say it’s only a small thing, and I agree. So, why doesn’t iCan install it? Today I ordered the Elitewheels Drive G45 SS wheelset which is lighter and has ceramic bearings installed as standard with free worldwide shipping included. Price only $852 as they have an 18% discount code available until Monday September 30th. The discount and free shipping clinched it for me. I look forward to your review of the Elitewheels!

Thanks. It worked. Problem solved 2 mins into the video.

£600, inc Sapim CX Ray £600😲

I've been running ICAN G25 wheels for about 2200km on my Trek Domane SL6 as an allroad type wheelset. 32mm GP5000s fit perfectly with the 25mm internal width. I got them on Amazon for 705€, that includes valves and rim tape (that you have to apply yourself btw). I'm really happy with them so far, no issues at all!

Is there a mention anywhere of the actual price of this groupset? Or hv I missed it. I searched online, found what appears to be Wheeltop's oficial website - and it only offers one option of buying at over £8000 - which doesn't add up - I believe it's actually a gravel bike they're selling with the groupset - didn't hv time to look in detail. You did say it's going to be released in October. Any comments on this would be welcome, ie. actual retail price. Thanks 👍 One can buy from there the road bike groupset (on sale it seems) and previously reviewed by you here om your channel.

Great review. I have the exact same Hunt Wheels and I’m seriously thinking about upgrading to the G25’s.

I have the stock DT Swiss G540 wheels on my Specialized Roubaix SL8 Comp, and I have been looking at upgrading to a set of carbon wheels. I'm looking forward to your Elite Wheels review before I pull the trigger - will you be doing Road, Gravel, or both?

I use the Ican G25 wheelset on my roadbike with 30mm tires and Vittoria tire inserts. Only done 300km on them. That Hunt 4 season gravel wheelset you just mentioned in this video: I just ordered that one for my Cyclocross bike which I basically use as a winter do it all bike (90% road). Pirelli P zero race tlr's 40mm will be fitted on those with also Vittoria tire inserts.

Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪And thanks for the effort and the good advice 👍🚴🏻‍♂

hope its good.price point and european warranty are two key components for me

ProX Carbon another option, circa 400 gbp for sure and Elites of course

Hi Jon, It looks as if WT are taking onboard feedback from the likes of your good self and others with respect updating the products, hopefully the updates will also be reflected when they update the road group set, and if so i will duly consider. Looking forward to the next video.