In defence of Stronghart being obviously based on Gant, this isn't exclusive to him. Obviously, the comparison between Kazuma and Mia was pointed out, but also Van Zieks is clearly based around Edgeworth. The last two cases of TGAA are basically a combination of DL-6 and SL-9 (So Turnabout Goodbyes and Rise from the Ashes) with Van Zieks being the Edgeworth equivalent. 2-4 even references Von Karma in the title.

1:04:47 Hey, all you in the corner!

Bridge to Turnbout in first. Thats all I need to know to agree with this ranking.

9:14 Oh wow, I forgot Seishiro did that…and now I realize that’s one of THOSE replay moments. Hits different seeing it again after finishing Resolve, and knowing he probably didn’t just toss Menimemo for being annoying.

Because we got the GAA games as a collection, it felt more like one ten case game than two five case games. And with how interconnected the cases are, and GAA1-5 feeling more like a midpoint in the overarching plot, it feels like these games are best experienced as a whole package anyway.

As far as his hobo Wright stint being brushed under the rug goes, I wonder/headcanon that the master poker player masterfully playing his aces is just how he looks when we’re not in his head. Half his stumbling is inner thoughts, the other half comes from directly seeing him under fire, and Apollo Justice is the one game where we don’t really get either save for the middle portions of the final case. That said, in terms of Dual Destinies “doing its own thing”, I’d levy that criticism more at Apollo randomly having ties to the space station stuff. Apollo’s changing backstory is another joke, but I can at least reconcile his Khura’in ties with the Apollo we meet in his first game. And yet his connections to the Dual Destinies final cases just do not gel.

Tbf to case 4... That “first day I ever cursed god” line will always be metal as fuck

It's stupid how fucked up the Ace Attorney world really is (especially in the Apollo Trilogy). But only when the games remind you of that cuz damn, to me it was kinda hard to understand the plot of AJ and DD cuz the characters always said stuff about the dark age of the law and im like "since when? Why? Show me what is causing the dark age of the law!" And the only way to actually know how bad things are, is to literally stop playing and go back to the previous games. I really, REALLY HATE this stupid rule of the games not having spoilers from the previous games. They don't feel like sequels to each other, they just feel like a cartoon with the "villain of the week" and "the big arc of THIS season". And the only real way to feel like these characters changed is to simply stop playing and look back, constantly to even know WHAT the new game is referencing cuz they sure won't do that for you. The world of Ace Attorney could feel just so much more alive If they didn't forget huge parts of previous games, like literally the initial part of THIS video.

38:55 ?? am i going crazy or is this not in literally every single ace attorney case?

I always come back to rewatch these videos every month or so and man that section on case 3 is so true, nearing the end i was genuinely so unsure, and when they were asking about the forged evidence i didnt even know, they set it up so perfectly where the first time around when you play it you probably check the top of the omnibus and dont see the blood, but by the time you find the blood you know you paid zero attention to it earlier and couldve easily missed it, and then they ruin all that by just confirming mcgilded was the killer 3 seconds lateer

The fact we can reasonably tie Rodger to this entire dark age of the law plot line via a bit of speculation just makes me even more angry that such a great potential big bad for ace attorney 7 via his ties to the Gramaryes just makes me annoyed that in spirit of justice he’s a one of villain in the second case! Honestly he’d even be a better final boss then Mrs evil queen who’s got the depth of a plastic cup. Hell if they kept him around they could have Rodger could have basically had ties to the every important plot within the AJT. Making him a perfect final boss… but no just have him put behind bars during the second case which takes place on the main land. In a game that was supposed to focus on an entirely different country.

Honestly the entire part of Stronghart in the final case being too damn obvious is fair. Though in comparison to how you discussed Gant, I personally think Stronghart not playing up any friendly facade works to his benefit. Like you know damn well from the moment you meet him he's going to be the ultimate big bad. But the real question is going to be HOW he fits into the grand scheme of things, WHY he will do what he does, and WHAT you need to ultimately take him down?

Sadly, the end of this video is probably my biggest disagreement. These are by far the series best in damm near everything( especially the cast, these were the first characters. I actually really gave a shit about and got invested in). Strongheart while obvious seeming was still able to let me get my gaurd down slightly. And it being on par with Investigations is utter blasphemy. The first investigations is just the worst. And the second while far better I don't see why people call it one of the best outside of comparing it to the first one. It was far better but it's highest. Moments fell between shadow of Apollo Justice and Dual, and I really don't feel if they stuck the landing. Do I fan boy for this collectio lot? Absolutely, but when taking a critical look at it do I genuinely believe them to be the best in the series? Also absolutely. The thing about being really taken out of it when you saw Susato was 16 i totally get it I felt the same there was no real reason to make her 16. And yes they absolutely need a room.

Why do you pronounce Ema's name like EE-muh?! It's EM- muh.

How are "Lady Kee'ra" and "warbaa'd" puns? Am I just pronouncing them wrong in my head?

This comment contains spoilers for Turnabout Big Top. Do not read unless you know the case's outcome. I'm a little irritated that Turnabout Big Top wasn't on the very bottom where it belongs, or at the very least closer to the bottom than it was. There are zero good qualities I can find with this case. I despise circuses. I despise clowns. Moe is not funny. Max is self-centered. Regina is far too naïve to be cute. Acro was pretty obviously the real culprit as soon as you meet him (though it was unintentional, he still killed the Ringmaster and didn't tell the truth about it). Ben and Trilo were annoying, though Trilo more than Ben. I hate this case with a burning passion, and nothing anyone says will remove it from the very bottom of my own list. I haven't played the Investigation cases yet, so I have no real opinion of those. I recently played Turnabout Big Top for my channel (as of now, they've yet to be published, but they're scheduled to be in the near future), and I made it no secret that I hate this case. I'm just glad it's over now, and I can move on to the next case (which is far better).

I always thought he had some sort of disease as well. Turns out he's actually just having constant allergic reactions. He has an undiagnosed allergy to buckwheat, and his family happens to own a buckwheat soba shop, and because of that, he constantly eats it with leads to him costs we have in the worst reactions. All of this was confirmed and a guidebook. And yes he did come before Geiru.

I'd love to see a fully updated. Case Ranking video with all of them together. Now that we have basically every game localized and remade. I know you have mentioned where you put them in this video. But it would be great to have 1 video for all of that plus any new thoughts you may have with the remakes. Plus a lot of the time when people mentioned where they put something in a ranking retroactively, it doesn't feel like you actually know where they were as you would when you watch a full video on it. If that makes any sense.

5:07 The funny thing is that's exactly how I always watch these videos.

There are a few characters that I hate that aren't on this list. For one spark brussel, I understand that's the point. He's a decent guy who just looks extremely repulsive. The thing about spark, however, is even though that's the point. He has set off every single warning alarm in my head.The way he speaks moves and acts set off every warning sign I've ever had and remind me of actual predators. I've met far too much for me to think of anything else when looking at him. Also, there's a Moe I understand some people like him. But every time he's on screen or even speaks I get angry.

I didn't realize that the clay terran case would be the first time that Apollo saw phoniex pull a OG triology bluff - that's amazing.

genuinely don't get the love for 4-4. Everyone has an idiot ball, what actually happened is obvious whole chapters before the characters understand it, the Mason System and the jury ending are basically the Ace Attorney equivalent of the last two episodes of Evangelion. And I have never wanted to reach through a screen and throttle a witness in these games more than Brushel just for being obtuse, uncooperative, and irritating. And that's just leaving aside how much the Percieve mechanic, which already sucks, _especially_ sucks in this case. -10,000/10.

Case 3 of t&t has 2 of my least favorites. Now given, i have only played the original trilogy and GAAC First is the chef. Idk i have some personal distastes of the french language, overdoses of make up, and this mixed with the oversexualisation makes me uncomfortable. But this is mostly personal, the true crime here is the old man who needs to go to horny jail. ffs they made sexualising mia a plot point

Bro did not like ace attorney investigations

Btw I'm curious, I'm getting around to Duel Destinies next after I finish Apollo Justice in the 2nd trilogy, what order would you recommend playing the cases for AA5? Chronological order, presented/default order, or mixed (where it's the "as presented/default" order but I play Case 5-6/SP after Case 5-2)? Also I'm on case 4-4 and am curious on the order of the events of the Jurist System when I get to it.

*HOLD IT!* This certainly does explain a lot…but then I’m left wondering, since Spirit of Justice covered overthrowing a tyrannical government…what is there left for Phoenix to try to do to improve the legal system in his own home?

Idk about you guys but my first time playing dual destinies I was kinda sad that Gumshoe was not returning and because I had a bias for gumshoe I didn’t want Fulbright as the replacement however after playing more of the game I was beginning to like him. The complete shock I had when he turned out to be the villain in the final case for me is the best shock I had in any video game

I have to admit, this video put a lot of my misgivings with duel destinies to rest. It put a lot of things that happened into perspective that I just couldn’t see. Thank you.

52:33 the Payne lineage, especially in 5-1

Also also (fourth comment in a row.) Is it a very hot take to say that while I enjoy the new mechanics of this game thematically, they really dont offer much in terms of gameplay? The jury feels like an additional testimony in between testimonies, with just a different way of objecting. They usually are very drawn out and talk about utter nonesense often unrelated to the trial, just to show off the WACKY jurors. The moment they start to get a hang of it and we finally get a set of new jurors in case 8, they just throw the mechanic out the window. To strip the game of its crucial core mechanic for its climax is not a great choice in my opinion. (Also, narratively the summation examination is really silly how its utterly rigged in the defenses favor and somehow its "a forgotten technicality" nobody uses despite it having no drawbacks and not even allowing the prosecution to say a word) Dance of Deduction is the one with the most potential with spicing up the investigations, but I think they went too hard on the stupid juice for Sholmes. The segments feel twice as long as they need to be, because the flaws in Sholmes' reasoning are massive. Its always a matter of examining the right thing on the set and not actually trying to think about it too hard, because its so blatantly obvious. And the fact you have to go over them twice (once as Sholmes initially presents it and once correcting him) does really pat it out in my eyes. It's only ever playful fun banter and not really figuring out the mystery. Except the last two, they are great. And the multiple witnesses returning from the crossover is just bad. It only encourages pressing every statement (something the game kinda expects you to do either way, but its not always nessescary). There is no skill involved because you always get a giant exclamation mark when someone wants to say something during those. Especially since they usually come up during digressions about digressions. But then the game also lets you ignore it for some reason. There's literally no reason to ingore them so i dont know why the game still leaves the option to do so. The only time the game did something different was in the Eggert/Gregson bit when they turned their backs, but with never telling the player that something like this can happen was cheap and not clever at all, especially since it happening wasnt even related to the pressed statement. The crossover did it in a much more interesting way, where you had to ignore statements like in the case of Birdly, find weaknesses within a group of witnesses and such. In general it was just a lot more engaging and difficult in the Layton crossover, especially during the 10 knights cross examination.

To me it also always felt like the duology was originally concieved as a trilogy, considering how the first game is very slow and the second very fast. How case 8 feels like a finale case, how Courtney Sithe seems like she was set up as a much bigger antagonistic force with her ties to the conspiracy. As well as the whole Ryutaro buisness appearing to be cut short, when it possible couldve been longer, since Susato's absence is very brief and the intro case not playing a bit role in the grand scheme of things. It feels like Susato was to uncover at leas "something". But it might be just me.

I genuinely really enjoy the more critical appraoch tot he finale, as it is often regarded as "one of the best" which I do believe is a little bit of recency bias speaking through people. For being one of the final bosses, as well as a one of the highest ranked judges in Japan, Jikogu's line of defense was quite pathetic. Maybe as a distraction, but I definetly still like the Gregson stuff way more than the Reaper/Professor stuff. Mainly because the entire case mystery and the witnesses are very fun. (I even like the redheads) Although, its really weird how Ryu was ableto flip the entire case on its head just because Vigil thought he saw red ink and with minimal evidence Ryu prooved that Klimt was the Professor. It's also weird how Stronghart just randomly opened about to it tell him "Good job, Mr Naruhodo" and explained everything. Also appealing twice that everything was totally justified, no one ever, even Barok questioning the fact that Klimt had a dog which matched the Professor's victims and the fact Genshin never owned a dog (which he couldnt even bring from Japan, even if he did). And for all that to end with a deus ex machina that Sholmes invented a holographic phone they just brought to the Queen so she can defeat Stronghart. It really lessens the impact of "The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo" (both in as the case and the big moment) when his resolve, ultimately boils down to Stronghart admiting to everything out of his own violition and Ryunosuke making a phonecall.

Rei is the first character written to be gay on purpose? What about Aura Blackquill?!

Godot's name is pronounced like "Guh-doe", not Go-dot."

Turnabout for Tomorrow and Bridge to the Turnabout are also my Top 2 cases. They're so well written, I doubt any other case will have a bigger impact than those two.

I always disliked Ben & Trilo, but once I watched Pixel Partner’s playthrough of JFA and saw Ali’s genuine joy whenever Ben and Trilo showed up because she got to do her amazing Trilo voice, it kind of rubbed off on me. I do agree that he’s a pedo and has no arc, but I really like his bit with the puppet, I think it’s funny. He’s got a shtick that fits well for a group playthru, especially if you have two different people voicing them. Still don’t hate him as much as I hate talking to Moe, but at least I get the sense Moe has a grasp on reality and is a good person.

One of my favorite moments in Turnabout Big Top is when the Judge asks you where is Max Galactica’s bust. I chose under the Prosecutor’s table and Franziska whips Phoenix until passing out 😂

Turnabout Samurai is actually one of the best ones, because it gave us the absolutely best case 2-4.

Important note in 6-3. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PICK THE CORRECT ANSWER IN IT VERY EARLY ON, BUT THE GAME LITERALLY PUNISHES YOU IF YOU CHOOSE IT. I can't express how annoying it was to get to that part and be like, YES THAT MAKES SENSE, only to be told no then immediately the next time you are able to change it, that's the correct answer. JUST WAY TOO MUCH FILLER.

Suddenly had the idea for a top 20 weirdest out of context quotes from this series. Yes I did just get to the almost Christmas line why do you ask?

Honestly, Investigations 2 also would have made public opinion worse knowing the implications of that games’ second half, and some of the things learned during that game

Okay so I just finished 5-5 and OH MY GOD IT WAS AMAZING! Despite knowing that Fullbright was the phantom from watching all the breakdowns as a child (which is what essentially started my Ace Attorney journey), I still fell in love with the bubbly detective and was still shocked at how different he acted once we started catching on to his real identity. And Blackquill! I wasn't entirely sure how to feel about his character when I first met him but this entire case made me love him so much more than I thought I would. I definitely agree that it deserves the number 2 spot with my number one being Great Ace Attorney 2's finale case being number one. I still need to finish the first trilogy but I'm kinda stuck on not wanting to go through the circus case... Great video, and will forever patiently wait for the next A.A. game, whenever that may be.

Just had a realization, I think Roger's last name is meant to be pronounced "Ray-tinz", like "ratings", not "Rhet-inz."