Don't buy - before you've finished reading this. Another Tech 21 bass fly rig clone! But after watching this video I ordered one anyway - and will be returning it. The disadvantages clearly outweigh the advantages. Built-in battery makes it independent of the mains but also very heavy. The battery has no charge level indicator. I never know how long it will last. Better without a battery but with an operating voltage of 5 V. Then I can use any power bank. Reverb and delay okay but not typical for bass. Octaver and fuzz are missing. Pitch shift has no indication in per cent. Can only be set by ear but not specifically to a third or fifth. Operation okay, colours helpful. But the pots are very small and very narrow. Position barely legible. The inventor Tech 21 has solved this much better. Editing presets impossible without the app. 36 presets, 28 of which somehow always sound the same. The sounds sound great with headphones. Very muddy or thin via amp and PA. Hardly any penetration in the overall sound of the band. The IR is actually the best. 8 completely different timbres and sound colours without EQ and without amp simulation. I would definitely buy IR as a separate module. Conclusion. Expensive toy. Better not to buy and practise more.
@allforbass855Күн бұрын
I have no connection with the brand. I agree that obviously the Tank-B had a format inspired by the Tech 21 fly rig bass, but the inspiration is only in the format, the audiences for the two are very different, the Tech 21 costs, on average, US$ 320.00 while the Tank -B costs, on average, US$79.00, so I see the Tech 21 as professional equipment, while the M-Vave is equipment for study, home use or travel. However, it is necessary to highlight that there are some significant differences between the 2 devices. The Tech 21 is a preamplifier with other effects added, the Tank-B is a preamplifier simulator with other effects added, however the preamplifiers are not very similar to those intended to simulate, however, the preamps can be replaced by profiles of any other preamp or pedal. I recently launched a profile kit with a sound closer to the original preamps and a few other preamps. As for power, it can be used connected to a smartphone charger, PC, power bank and even the smartphone recharges the Tank-B battery, the battery, although it is impossible to monitor, is really useful for practicing, until today I have only charged the battery in the socket just once, when the pedal arrived at my house, my cell phone or my PC recharged the battery, another very useful thing is the Bluetooth connection, I use the Moises app to remove the bass sound with AI, and play any song with the original audio. The ambiance and modulation effects are not good, but with good profiles and good, but this is used very little on double bass. With good profiles and some good third-party IR files, it is possible to achieve great sounds.
@wolframheldmaier72719 сағат бұрын
@@allforbass855yes of course it is cheaper because they don’t pay R&D department. They steal the design from Tech 21. even the XLR socket on the left side. … if people only buy cheap clones no one will invest in research and no one will ever create new products. 😢 that’s a poor future.
@wolframheldmaier72719 сағат бұрын
@@allforbass855in Germany it is forbidden to make a product look similar to an exiting one because this can confuse customers. Oh look a sneaker with three stripes. It must be an Adidas. Gebrauchsmusterschutz. We are not even talking about patents. In Asian culture this respect to the original creator seem not existent. What a shame.
@allforbass85512 сағат бұрын
@wolframheldmaier727 Originality is not a virtue of the Asian industry, but to be honest in some areas the product follows some standards established by the market, for example a Jazz Bass, was created by Fender (USA) but most brands have their own version of the Jazz Bass , Sandberg, even though it is German, has changed the pick guard, the headstock a little, but it is still a Jazz Bass, several brands of pedals follow the standards established by Boss, Ibanez, etc., therefore, I really believe that the product in question has followed a standard that is already used in the pedal and multi-effects industry, the reference is clear, but they are very different products. Once again I say that I have no connection whatsoever with the brand, but I admit that I was impressed by the fact that M-Vave had released a product on the market with IR loader technology, preamp and pedal profiles, with XLR output, bluetooth and audio interface for PC and cell phone at such an affordable price.
@jaysonjarabata83013 күн бұрын
sir, one question as I'm confused with ANN Profiles. If I will use your ANN, do i still need to add IR in the Cabsim section?
@allforbass8553 күн бұрын
The profiles are preamplifier simulations, they are .am2data files, made based on a preamplifier or preamplification section of famous amplifiers to control bass, midrange and treble frequencies, acting as an input filter. IR are acoustic impulse responses, they are like a digitization of a set of acoustic characteristics, which is why they serve very well to give characteristics to cabinets, which are speakers in loudspeakers, just like pre-amplifiers modulate frequencies, but they are not adjustable and act as an output filter. Some preamps work well alone, like the Alembic F-2B, Avalon U5, etc., but others work better when combined with IR, the Ampeg B15, for example, the preamp was designed with a 1X15 cabinet in mind, of course. that nothing prevents you from using it with other IRs or even without them, the factor that really matters is personal taste, if only the sound of the preamp satisfies you is your sound, use it, if you feel you still need something, combine it with IR, Finding the timbre you like is a task of experimentation, try each one separately and the combinations and use what you like best.
@jaysonjarabata83012 күн бұрын
@@allforbass855 got it. tnx
@DiOliveira886 күн бұрын
Mestre, uma dúvida: Não sei se passou pelo mesmo problema, mas estou conectado via bluetooth no celular, consigo enxergar os arquivos e listar no M-EFCS, mas na hora de clicar em "Audition" no AM2 dá um erro de "failing to send data!" Já passou por algo similar?
@allforbass8556 күн бұрын
Já sim, aconteceu a primeira vez comigo no domingo, reiniciei o Celular e o Tank-B e voltou a funcionar, o controlador chocolate do guitarrista interferiu na Tank-B e a Tank-B estava interferindo na comunicação do chocolate com a Zoom dele, reiniciamos tudo e afastamos os equipamentos voltou a funcionar normalmente
@allforbass8555 күн бұрын
Teve outra pessoa com o mesmo problema, no caso dele, ele não havia descompactado, por algum motivo ele conseguiu entrar na pasta compactada, visualizava tudo mas não conseguia importar, após extrair os arquivos funcionou, mas estava instável, descobrimos que estava desatualizado, ele atualizou e funcionou normalmente.
@allforbass8555 күн бұрын
Só mais uma coisa o arquivo está em .rar, é necessário um aplicativo que leia essa extensão pra descompactar, eu uso o winrar que é gratuito na play store
@BartholomeuSmithJones6 күн бұрын
In the thumb of the video there is an image of Avalon, but it does not appear in the video nor is it in the link in the description.
@allforbass8556 күн бұрын
the Avalon U5 is available to members only.
@homerjackson1416 күн бұрын
O Marshall ficou incrível, principalmente com esse IR 4x15, o Ampeg V4-B também ficou fantástico esse low end é de estremecer os ossos.
@allforbass8556 күн бұрын
O IR que usei no Marshall está disponível para membros, é bem barato e pode cancelar na hora que quiser, o IR que usei no Ampeg V-4B é um 8x10 gratuito, só clicar no link e baixar
@grooveironervoso75006 күн бұрын
O Ampeg SVT ficou show, mas o Ampeg B15 é perfeito já botei os 2 na minha tank-b comprei depois que vi seu video reviu dela. Serve pra blackbox também? Blackbox é boa?
@allforbass8556 күн бұрын
Muito obrigado, sua opinião é muito importante, fico feliz por ajudar, esses profiles também servem pra M-Vave Black Box sim, que é um ótimo equipamento, a proposta é diferente, mas tem ótimos recursos e opções.
@brucedickinson899311 күн бұрын
tem o preset desse timbre pra b1x four?
@allforbass85511 күн бұрын
Tenho sim, em breve estará disponível para membros do canal.
@pinasngayon14 күн бұрын
compressor
@brucedickinson899326 күн бұрын
Mestre!!!! Melhor Tank B ou Zoom B1x Four?
@allforbass85525 күн бұрын
Isso depende muito do uso, Tank-B tem opções que a Zoom B1X Four não tem e a Zoom B1X Four tem muitas coisas que a Tank-B não tem, considerando usar apenas um e de forma isolada, ou seja, ir pra tocar somente com o baixo cabo e um dos 2 a Tank-B tem a vantagem de ter saída XLR, é IR loader e tem 9 opções de pré-amplificadores que podem ser trocados, em breve vou disponibilizar um pack de profiles pra Tank-B. Pra usar com um amplificador a Zoom já tem mais vantagens por ter mais pré amplificadores, equalizadores, vários compressores que são muito superiores aos da M-Vave além de ter drive, distorção e etc, as modulações da Zoom são excelentes, muito acima da média, a Tank-B é muito fraca nisso. Então, como eu disse depende muito do uso a Zoom tem muito mais opções, mas falta funcionalidades que a M-Vave tem e a M-Vave tem ferramentas excelentes e necessárias que a Zoom não tem. Pra mim uma complementa a outra, tudo que eu queria era que a Tank-B tivesse send return, colocaria a Zoom no send return e não trocaria isso por nada. Mas você me deu uma ideia vou fazer um vídeo comparando as duas.
@brucedickinson899325 күн бұрын
@@allforbass855 É uma ótima ideia de vídeo, parabéns! Sua dedicação me lembra a do camarada do Direct Recording Video, sucesso para vc. O colega da minha banda não tocava a uns 20 anos, eu tenho 26 e eles são bem mais velhos, estão voltando a tocar para se divertir, mas com planos de apresentações... Não sei se ele tem muitas habilidades em importar profile, editar as coisas, etc etc. Talvez pra ele seja mais útil um drive, não sei... e o guitar lab parece mais fácil de mexer. Tocamos basicamente metal. Ele comprou um Meteoro Star Black 15 pra usar nos ensaios. Pra tocar em linha em uma hipotética apresentação, o tank b serve também ou não fica legal? Não manjo muito como usam o baixo em shows kkkkk eu uso Zoom G11 e toco em linha...
@MtoTheBtoThe70sАй бұрын
Thanks for the extensive video. Is there a way I can tell when it is charging? I have it connected to a charger, but I cannot see a light showing it is charging.
@allforbass855Ай бұрын
Between the USB port and the on and off switch is a small LED that indicates that it is charging. The charge can come from a cell phone charger, notebook or even a smartphone. If it is not charging, there may be a problem with the battery. The Tank-B is an excellent piece of equipment, however, some copies came out with an error, the battery is below the fourth foot switch. It happens that in some examples they did not cut the excess solder on the board, leaving a tip that, depending on the pressure on the foot switch 4, could puncture the battery, it is something very simple to solve, but if the battery has already been damaged, it will need to be replaced.
@MtoTheBtoThe70sАй бұрын
@@allforbass855 I see the led now, thanks! Will it switch off once the device is fully charged?
@allforbass855Ай бұрын
@MtoTheBtoThe70s Unfortunately I don't know that answer, I only charged mine once, as I use it a lot while connected to my smartphone or computer, it is always charging.
@rickbug9504Ай бұрын
Alguem sabe se consigo usar o efeito defret na zoom g1 four?
@allforbass855Ай бұрын
Consegue sim, há esse efeito nela, se não estiver aparecendo, só conectar ao computador e abrir o programa da Zoom na aba efeitos e adicionar à pedaleira.
@christophe2987Ай бұрын
As an alternative I prefer the Caline "CP-60 Wine Cellar - Bass Drive & DI" which is metal casing and good sounding 😉
@allforbass855Ай бұрын
The Caline and Behringer use the same circuit, the only thing that changes is the casing, which on the Caline is made of metal, the appearance and the price also change.
@christophe2987Ай бұрын
Thanks for the IR pack 👍
@prof.hector452Ай бұрын
Puedes agregar otros efectos como chorus y octavador?
@allforbass855Ай бұрын
Los únicos efectos que se pueden añadir son preamplificadores, efectos de drive y distorsión y ecualización, para trabajar con modulaciones y efectos de reverberación y retardo únicamente combinándolos con otros pedales. Normalmente combino mi Zoom B1X Four con el Tank-B, suena increíblemente bien.
@pazethusАй бұрын
Show
@pazethusАй бұрын
Valeu!
@torgomaxАй бұрын
👍
@torgomaxАй бұрын
Yes he uses the Zoom with the wah peddal🎸 I have been watching vids on this thing for a while.
@torgomaxАй бұрын
What kind of pedal would sound good with a Fender Rumble 40 Bass amp? I'm a new player 🎸
@allforbass855Ай бұрын
Hello, you have a good amplifier, it will serve you very well in your studies and small rehearsals. However, to recommend a pedal or other equipment, I need to know what instrument you play and what type of music you will play. But for those who are starting to play, the recommended thing is to focus on studying technique, theory, band practice (there are applications that help a lot with this) and the equipment you purchase should not interfere with practice or studies, there are people who spend more time tinkering using equipment than playing and this is not cool, it hinders the musician's development and performance, so equipment for beginners must be simple and easy to use so as not to divert the focus from studies. If you want a recommendation for pedals, I'm available to help, but I need to know which bass is on and which song is going to play.
@torgomaxАй бұрын
@@allforbass855 Thanks so much for the help. I bought a Peavey Milestone Jazz Bass and like Metal music. Do you use multi effects pedals?
@johnmarkbetes3966Ай бұрын
I have the blackbox. looking forward for your bass profiles 😊
@N8oRMusic2 ай бұрын
Replace the ambient effects with a fuzz and one of the modulations with an octaver and this would be a winner.
@allforbass8552 ай бұрын
that would really be great, one of the modulation effects is a pitch shifter, theoretically it reaches an octave lower, but, unfortunately, it doesn't work well, as for the fuzz next week I'm going to make some profiles for Tank-B, the Fuzz EHX Big Muff Pi is on the list.
@jurav51072 ай бұрын
When you see thing and understand it was made for ROCK'N'ROLL
@JohnnyParrotJoe2 ай бұрын
Are those pre-amps in the video already included in Tank B?
@allforbass8552 ай бұрын
Yes, all included from the factory, the last one I replaced I left the file available for free along with the impulse response files at the link in the video description.
@sitompel54822 ай бұрын
presets fuzz.?
@allforbass8552 ай бұрын
Coming soon
@midknightsinn20682 ай бұрын
for metal please
@allforbass8552 ай бұрын
It depends on the style of metal, for example for Iron Maiden I would use one configuration and for Metallica another very different one for Motöhead another for Meshuggah and so on, the IR I use for Metal with modern characteristics is the 2 x 10 which has scooped mids, and it's very tight, for 80s metal I would use 4 X 10 or 2 X 15. For a preamp I would use the Marshall or Mesa. But I'm preparing some profiles, including some with distortion for hard rock or metal.
@midknightsinn20682 ай бұрын
@@allforbass855 thank you! where can i get this profile samples soon? im new at using effects pedal for bass and im looking for more info you can share to us! more power to you.
@allforbass8552 ай бұрын
@midknightsinn2068 Yes, I will soon make some profiles available, thank you very much.
@midknightsinn20682 ай бұрын
@@allforbass855 <3
@WilDBeestMF3 ай бұрын
The compressor on this gjing is actually pretty great. It isnt working too hard. The noise is not 😅 I might have to try the Tank B.
@allforbass8553 ай бұрын
The Tank-B adjustments really work, they don't change the tone and provide many possibilities. It's really very useful equipment.
@BartholomeuSmithJones3 ай бұрын
Nice job
@WelberIsaac163 ай бұрын
Opa tudo bem ? qual desses modelos você me indica comprar: optar pelo Zoom B1 Four ou B1X Four ?
@allforbass8553 ай бұрын
As duas pedaleiras são praticamente o mesmo equipamento, o que muda é o pedal de expressão/volume/wah, se você usa wah wah, pitch shifter com expressão tipo whammy e usa pedal de volume a B1X Four terá melhor proveito, mas pra maioria dos baixistas esses recursos não são muito utilizados, assim sendo a B1 acaba tendo a vantagem de ser um pouco mais barata. Porém se puder investir na B2 Four é uma opção bem mais interessante. Na época em que comprei a B1X Four não existia a B2 Four, outra opção bem interessante também é a Zoom MS-60B.
@WelberIsaac163 ай бұрын
@@allforbass855 Maravilha, muito obtigado pelo retorno grato demais aqui !!
@albertopedrosa13133 ай бұрын
Q Danado é isso um Baixo é vixe....😂😂
@allforbass8553 ай бұрын
É um baixo, com overdrive. Pra gravar usei o pedal como drive e preamp, em seguida pra um leitor de impulse response pra ter o som de uma caixa 4x10 que também é minha interface pro celular.
@BartholomeuSmithJones3 ай бұрын
Great job sir
@BartholomeuSmithJones3 ай бұрын
This one looks like a double bass
@BartholomeuSmithJones3 ай бұрын
sorry but that doesn't sound much like double bass
@allforbass8553 ай бұрын
Listen to this kzbin.infoLW3YVPmnxTc?si=4L1lPHbocrq20Vjy
@cokyharrysaputra3 ай бұрын
M vave cube baby vs m vave tank B? Who win?
@allforbass8553 ай бұрын
They are equipment for different people, the M-Vave Cube Baby has pre-amplifiers for guitar, the M-Vave Tank-B is for bass, the M-Vave has the Ma-Vave Bass, from the same product line as the Cube Baby, which It's for double bass, it works well too, it has fewer features than the Tank-B, but it's also cheaper, it's a great option for practicing, the Tank-B has a more intermediate profile and already meets some professional needs like XLR output for example, if If you only have one, the Tank-B is better, but if it's just for studying and practicing, the M-Vave bass is more suitable.
@himluis20103 ай бұрын
puedes compartir el sonido marcus miller ?
@allforbass8553 ай бұрын
Tengo un video con el sonido de Macus Miller, ahí están todas las configuraciones para los efectos utilizados en la pantalla. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6TaYZ2leMibmtksi=rpqyOtGHZ-Hnrg2s
@nailcutter72593 ай бұрын
Does the change in frequency of parametric knobs really works?
@allforbass8553 ай бұрын
Yes it works, but the frequency range depends on each type of preamp, so some will have more noticeable changes than others, some the midrange doesn't work because it's like that in the reference preamp. However, the preamps are reference, that is, they don't sound exactly the same, my advice to more easily reach a desired tone is to first choose the IR file and then the preamp just to touch up, another option is to modify the preamp as I showed at the end of the video, or even import profiles. I'm preparing some profiles that I will make available for free in a future video.
@mathias82364 ай бұрын
maybe play in correct rythm
@BartholomeuSmithJones4 ай бұрын
Great job man
@rodrigo_desu4 ай бұрын
Preciso muito de profile de overdrive
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
Estou preparando alguns profiles, inclusive com drive.
@DiOliveira8816 күн бұрын
@@allforbass855 fala André, tudo bem? Mestre, conseguiu evoluir com essa questão de profile de overdrive? Tá bem difícil achar por aí rs Obrigado e parabéns pelo trabalho
@allforbass85516 күн бұрын
Já está pronto, um Fender Musicmaster Bass com drive, Marshall com distorção, e um profile do Big Muff Pi que personalizei com controle de grave médio e agudo e ganho, esses vou disponibilizar de graça, além desses tenho outros profiles do Big Muff Pi com níveis diferentes de MIX, o Marshall signature do Lemmy Kilmister + IR 4X15 + 4x12 Marshall similares a que ele usava, o preamp de estúdio Avalon U5 e mais algumas coisas que serão exclusivos pra membros do canal, os profiles estão sendo testados por profissionais pra avaliação e semana que vem sai o vídeo com o pacote de profiles.
@DiOliveira8816 күн бұрын
@@allforbass855 acabou de ganhar mais um membro com ansiedade crônica hahaha
@moroboshidan79604 ай бұрын
A tank-b também toca profiles ou só a tank-g?
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
O Tank-B também carrega profiles, inclusive os de guitarra.
@JonasLe4 ай бұрын
gracias por el aporte, estoy comprando esta dedalera, por lo portátil y principalmente para ensayar. alguna sugerencia, consulta, hay laguna forma de tener un octavador con esta pedalera?
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
Gracias por seguir el canal, esta pedalera es realmente genial para ensayos e incluso algunas presentaciones, la batería dura mucho, la salida XLR es realmente muy útil, el cargador de IR también es muy bueno. El M-Vave tiene 3 modulaciones, que son chorus, Phaser y Pitch Shifter, pero el Pitch Shifter solo produce frecuencias más altas a partir de la nota fundamental, llega a una octava, pero no es muy exacto, uso el octaveizador en el Zoom B1X. Cuatro. De hecho, es una excelente combinación de Zoom y M-Vave, uno complementa al otro.
@johnharoldlucas4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this review sir, may I ask if this is compatible with MacBook pro M1?
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
Hello, M-EFCS software is available for Mac, Windows, Android and IOS. However, the M-Upgrade and Ann software, for now, are only available for Windows.
@johnharoldlucas4 ай бұрын
Thanks, can this be used as pedal effects using an amplifier?
@johnharoldlucas4 ай бұрын
And can i used for drop tuning songs?
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
Yes, it is possible to use the Tank-B with my amplifier, I use the compressor, preamps and sometimes chorus, I always leave the IR off when using it in an amplifier and on the amplifiers I leave the equalization flat. However, it is possible to use the Tank-B to send the signal to the amplifier and Mixer at the same time.
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
The Tank-B's pitch shifter only works with higher notes, therefore, with the Tank-B there is only the possibility of changing the pitch to a higher pitch. For lower tunings I use the Zoom B1X Four.
@BartholomeuSmithJones4 ай бұрын
This pedal is for bass?
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
No, but works very well
@faithingod7334 ай бұрын
compressor
@RadityoPramAdi4 ай бұрын
thank you for sharing
@altercloud77244 ай бұрын
where can I get download M Efcs for PC? I just got for android or IOS on website
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
In this link, click on PC Software, on this page there are 3 software options, including M-EFCS for PC. www.cuvave.com/appdownload
@andrenogueira9244 ай бұрын
Lindoo som
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
Obrigado
@grooveironervoso75004 ай бұрын
Aeeee finalmente um piseiro manda mais
@gonzalorasjido24925 ай бұрын
Please tell me that someone out there is making a profile for tank b!😢
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
I haven't seen other bassist channels talking about bass profiles yet, but I have plans to do some profiles soon.
@gonzalorasjido24924 ай бұрын
@@allforbass855 It's true, apparently the tank b did not attract the attention of the internet! 😢😂. I will be waiting for your profiles! Thank you!
@gonzalorasjido24924 ай бұрын
@@allforbass855 I just managed to take the time to try that profile you shared and it didn't work for me! I could see in some videos of the tank g and the extension of the file is different! .am2data. Could that be the problem? 🤔
@allforbass8554 ай бұрын
@gonzalorasjido2492 It worked on mine as I showed in the video, is your Tank-B updated to the latest version? The SncoAnn software also had an update, if your software is updated and your Tank-B also tells me and I will make a new file with flat equalization and update the file for download.
@gonzalorasjido24924 ай бұрын
@@allforbass855 I have updated tank b and I also tried ANN versions 1.0.0 and 1.0.2 and it doesn't work. I saw in tank g videos that the file extension is different, .am2data, I don't know if it is that too or because my tank b is version 1
@BartholomeuSmithJones5 ай бұрын
Is this like a kemper for bass players?
@allforbass8555 ай бұрын
Not exactly a "kemper" but the principle is the same, it is possible to share Tank-B "profiles".